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CM 236: Tess Wilkinson-Ryan on When to Play the Fool

2023/3/27
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Gail Allen: 本期节目探讨了人们对扮演傻瓜或被欺骗的恐惧,以及这种恐惧如何影响我们的决策和人际关系。我们采访了Tess Wilkinson-Ryan教授,她撰写了《Foolproof》一书,探讨了这种恐惧的根源、表现形式以及克服方法。 Tess Wilkinson-Ryan: 人们对被欺骗的恐惧(sugraphobia)会影响我们日常生活中的各种决策,从购物到工作,甚至政治参与。这种恐惧会让我们做出一些最终适得其反的事情,例如交通中的尾随行为或在消费中过度谨慎。 这种恐惧源于一系列负面情绪,包括害怕、羞辱、后悔和愤怒,以及由此产生的被社会孤立感。这种恐惧还会被武器化,用于阻止人们帮助他人或进行合作,尤其是在政治言论中。 此外,这种恐惧还会因为社会地位和种族、性别刻板印象而加剧。地位较低的人更容易被怀疑其动机,并受到不公平的监督。种族和性别刻板印象也会强化对“傻瓜”叙事的利用,从而阻止人们与不同背景的人合作。 为了克服这种恐惧,我们需要进行分解分析(disaggregated analysis),明确决策中涉及的各个价值观及其权重,例如金钱、人际关系、正直等。通过权衡利弊,我们可以做出更符合自身价值观和目标的决策。 持续合作可以鼓励他人合作,即使面临被欺骗的风险,也可能带来积极的社会影响。在人际关系中,正直和同情心比避免被欺骗更重要。 Tess Wilkinson-Ryan: 人们对扮演傻瓜的恐惧,即sugraphobia,是一种普遍存在的心理现象,它会影响我们的决策和行为,甚至导致我们做出一些适得其反的事情。这种恐惧源于被欺骗后的负面情绪,例如羞辱、后悔和愤怒,以及由此产生的被社会孤立感。 这种恐惧在社会中会被武器化,用于操纵人们的行为,例如在政治言论中,将寻求帮助的人描绘成傻瓜。这种恐惧还会因为社会地位和刻板印象而加剧,地位较低的人更容易被怀疑其动机,并受到不公平的监督。 为了克服这种恐惧,我们需要进行分解分析,明确决策中涉及的各个价值观及其权重,并根据具体情况调整对这种恐惧的重视程度。持续合作,即使面临被欺骗的风险,也可能带来积极的社会影响。 在人际关系中,正直和同情心比避免被欺骗更重要。我们需要认识到,有时扮演傻瓜,甚至看似吃亏,反而能促进合作,并建立更积极的人际关系。儿童时期价值观和恐惧感的形成对成年后的行为有深远的影响。

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No one wants to feel like a sucker. In fact, the very thought of being one – of playing the fool – shapes our behavior in powerful ways.

But what if our fear causes us to make choices that aren’t good for us? Or worse, what if people weaponize our fear in order to dominate or disempower us?

Tess Wilkinson-Ryan has written a stunning book on the topic called, Fool Proof: How Fear of Playing the Sucker Shapes Our Selves and the Social Order and What We Can Do about It. A psychologist and law professor, Tess helps us understand what this fear is, why we have it, and how it plays out in law, politics, and everyday life. She also shares how to overcome it and make the decisions that are aligned with our goals.

It’s a book you’ll keep thinking about long after you’ve read it.

Episode Links

Breach is for Suckers

Transferring Trust: Reciprocity of Norms and Assignment of Contract

Moral Judgment and Moral Heuristics in Breach of Contract

Njinga of Angola: Africa’s Warrior Queen by Linda Heywood

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