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LinkedIn, the place to be, to be. You look great to no one's surprise. Thanks. I hope it wasn't a long trek to get here. I don't know where you live. No, it wasn't. I live in Encino, so it was just right over the hill. Are you sure you want to reveal that?
Well, I just did, so. No. No, people know where everybody lives. Of course they do. People know where you live, I'm sure. Well, let's not advertise it. Let's not make the situation worse. I know where you live. Yeah, now you do. Am I the first person on the show to request champagne? Yes. I thought so. I was like, should I really do this? No. Then I just went for it. If that's what you drink, I'm all for everybody doing what they want to do. Well, it's either this or a dirty martini, and that might...
That was just too intense for a podcast. I haven't done enough of these to be, you know, I don't want to let my armor down. There's no other ones like this. So you're not going to do other ones like this because we set it up purposely to get you wasted. No. I think that's a great idea.
Honestly. Do you want... No. You don't smoke pot. I do. You're like an athlete. I'm not an athlete, actually. Athletes smoke pot. They do. Especially football players. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because it helps with the pain. It helps a lot with the pain. Everybody has their own... Of losing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Forget the knees. No, I know. I get it, though. They get... They say it's like every week it's like getting hit by a car, but my boyfriend actually doesn't smoke weed. So I don't know. We both don't really, but... Right. Your boyfriend is...
Christian McCaffrey. Oh, yeah. Well, he's a good one. At least you got it. I mean, you're a true influencer who's among the most influential influencer influencing this country.
And I want you to influence me. I need influencing. I'm a person who's been, please, I can't have thoughts of my own. I need influencing. Can you? What do you need help with? Beauty? Makeup? What to buy somebody? Gift guide? Amazon purchases? Just influence me, please. It's like a seance with me. Just like, no. It's all in the energy behind like TikTok or influencers or whatever. Okay.
But I will say, I think I could, I think I'm a good salesperson. Maybe that leads into it. But I agree, you do have to have like, you do have to have thick skin, but you would have to have thick skin too, but you literally just don't read anything. I do not, no, right. Well, obviously there are sometimes, I can't help it if it's like a,
a story in the New York Times, it's about me, usually negative, then, you know, I have to see what's going on. But like, do I week to week? No. What about day to day? Of course not. No, I mean, look, there's like people who write negative. It's one place. I never remember this guy's name, which is probably why he hates me. But like he writes, I think it's The Daily Beast. It's one of those
Maybe it's, what's the other one that's like the Daily Beast? - Daily Mail? - No, no, that's a newspaper. No, the Daily Beast and not Slate, but no, a website like that, Buzzfeed, one of those. - One of those, yeah. - And some place, okay. So, and they write a shit review sometimes before the show has even ended. Now for years we were on live,
It's only since the pandemic that we went to pre-tape like most other shows do in the afternoon. So on Friday night when the show aired, it was live, live. So you could tell if he's putting out an article before the show has ended, like talking about something that hasn't happened yet, that's some real hate. That is. But why would I give a shit about some guy living in his mother's basement?
like typing about me. That's true. It's like you're typing about me. I'm not even knowing about you. And so, but yes, I don't have a thick skin actually. If I hear it, we're all human. Like if somebody just says, you know, I watched this, I remember reviewing a review and it was like, I couldn't really pay attention to the jokes because his head is so big. Yeah.
he meant like literally you know like you're like i can't this is rude who wants to but who would say that imagine like think about it i remembered it all those years yeah we're all sensitive super sensitive and the biggest sensitive people are the ones who pretend you know the the classic
Big, strong man who said the least little thing and he becomes a fucking little pussy. Yep, you're right. Yeah, it's so true. Oh, my God. Well, I watch a lot of Dateline. I'm not proud of that, by the way. Why? Dateline's not the worst. Well, it's not the worst, but it's like, all right, I could be watching other things. But anyway, sometimes I watch it. It's better than Milf Manor. That's true. Yeah.
That did cross my desk and I didn't watch it. But with Dateline, a lot of the people who end up being these murderers, they grew up being bullied. So it's like, or they were bullied and then they ended up being the bully in a larger sense. Interesting, right? Yeah, it is interesting. So maybe those people there in their mother's basement are the people that were bullied or...
the other way around. But it's a weird cycle. They needed to be influenced. They needed to be influenced. They needed to be influenced. So influence, like...
Should I have had more influence on this shirt? This shirt should have been... It looks like a cashmere blend. I approve. I think it looks nice. Oh, okay. It really does look like a nice maybe wool cashmere blend. Warm. Oh, that looks like Brad Pitt's line. Is that his line? Brad Pitt has a line of shirts? Yeah, he has some cashmere... Seriously? Yeah. I don't know what it's called, but... Brad Pitt makes shirts? Yeah.
- Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think he does. - Wow, I did not know that. I know he was an art, you know, a sculptor. He has exhibitions and stuff. - In the wine, I guess. - I don't know. - See, he's an influencer. He is an influencer. He's pushing. - Oh, for sure. - He's influencing people. - I mean, movie stars like that, especially ones like him who become iconic, especially ones who kind of deserve it like him, they were always influencers. I mean, before we had the word.
I agree. Now it's just, you know, more like, you know, I think younger people, they don't look up to movies. They don't know movie stars because there aren't a lot of stars. It's more the movie is the star. It's Spider-Man. You can have 10 different Spider-Mans. Yeah. You know, it's not the star. It's the concept. Yeah. It's the cartoon concept.
Whenever they're not cartoons, but comic book, to me, cartoons and comic books is the same thing. But it's like, that's what all the big movies are. Yeah. You know, you should be in one of those movies. Maybe you can make a phone call for me. I bet you know somebody. I can't. No, I'm not in the. No, I can't. Somebody's sitting here in Club Random.
I mean, probably I know the people who who run those things, but they would not take it. You know, there would be no reason for me to maybe one day I might need a need. But I don't know why they haven't thought of it, because like you're an actress. Yeah. Yeah. And like that's not I mean, maybe you haven't done a long day's journey into night. But, you know, these are fucking comic book movies.
You're perfect for it. Thank you. You certainly can act well enough to be in that fucking movie. And you look like you'd be a great, you know. Yeah. We'll see. Hero. When I'm out there on the stage, I will. I'll thank you in my acceptance speech when I'm when I finally made it. You will not get an award for being in one of those movies. You never know. Those movies. That's a good point, which is exactly why I should be a shoo-in. But it hasn't happened yet for me.
Yeah, that's interesting. That is interesting. You know, the other thing about influencer, though, this day and age is the guy in his mother's basement can be an influencer. You can be somebody you can be an 18 year old. You can be a 15 year old on TikTok with absolutely four million followers with huge influence. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So there's ones that I mean, what are you, 30? Oh, yeah, exactly. OK, there's people even you.
don't really know their world because... Oh, I don't. At all. Right. Because they're literally 12 to 14. I know. So, I mean, what does that have to do with you, let alone me? I know. I'm 67. I mean, it's crazy how not united this country is as far as having any common thing that we're experiencing. I know. Which is not good.
That can be isolating when you put it that way. I mean, it does kind of feel, yeah, there's not a lot of, it's not very open, but what do you expect a 12-year-old to have in common with anybody other than their peers in sixth grade? That's a good point. But I mean, whatever you're doing at 30, I mean, you could not be more pristine looking. Oh, thank you. So like, I know 30 is an age that sometimes women go nutty about.
Yeah, I can see why. It's something about like men, I think it's 40. I totally agree with you. Because men are more like, you know, I've got to climb Macho Mountain and become the CEO, you know, and then they look around at 40 and it's like, oh, I'm just still here in middle management or whatever. And I'm at the end of the bar and I'm divorced. And it's like they have the midlife crisis because...
But women, I think it's more 30 because it's like, oh, my God, I'm not like the youngest thing. Right. And I always want to say to them, boy, move to LA because this is like MILF Central. Like, guys, they like 30. I honestly agree. You're just getting started. Yeah. I agree. I think also times are changing because there is a lot of really interesting, I mean, you know, women have filler, Botox, XYZ. Like, men don't necessarily keep up with. No, and I won't, but you know what I mean. Ever.
Ever. Oh, you see, but yeah, I get it. But, you know, no, I agree. It has to be natural, blah, blah, blah. But women...
In L.A., you do also have to understand that there's a lot of that going on. Oh, of course I do. Some look good, some don't. But it's not good. Yeah, some look good, some don't. I agree. Yeah, you've got to be careful about it. But I think it's funny when people try to act like they haven't done anything. Don't do it. Look at how the European actresses who were the...
Hotties, I mean, Catherine Deneuve. Deneuve. Do you know who that is? It sounds familiar. Yeah, I mean, you were, I don't know. I mean, I was a kid when she was, she was this hot French actress who like. Chain smoke cigarettes maybe? Maybe not. I'm just trying to imagine a French woman. Oh, Catherine Deneuve. I mean, she must have done movies here in America because she was very famous. And in just a smoke show.
Gina Lola Brigida just died. She was this, that was one of the first ladies on the screen when I was like 12 that I found to be a masturbation material for sure. Gina Lola Brigida was very hot. She was Italian, you know, Sophia Loren, of course. Yeah, of course. These, they all, none, they didn't do the masturbation.
Right. Yeah. I know. Yeah. And they look fine. They look like as good as you could. No one as I think Fran Lee, which was the one who said it like no one looks at someone who's had plastic surgery and is 70 and goes, who's that 35 year old person? That is so true. That is true. But you can't say like, wow, they look really good for 70 or, you know, that's look, that is as good as you can ever do.
good for your age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's all relative. People say you look good. I'm always like, yes, but the chyron is for your age. And that's as good as you can do. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That is true. And also, I always think women should hear this. Think about why you would be doing it. Don't just do it. Are you doing it because you're like, okay, I'm getting older and I want to be able to
keep the pool of men who are interested in me as wide as possible and as big as it ever was. Yeah. So I will. And it's like, that's not going to do it. No, I actually. But other qualities that come with getting older, maybe you're going to do it even more.
I feel like I could be wrong on this, but I listened to something. It's like burning my leg now. Oh, good, because I need it so badly. Yeah, it's hot. It's cold. This is hot. It's cold. I'm so sorry about all. It might burn a hole in your leg. Oh, that's nice. But I think it was Farrah Fawcett who said that she wanted to look as good as she felt.
And I think the more power to you, like, you know, but I think it's easy. You probably never dabbled into any sort of that aesthetic treatment, but I mean, people, well, I don't know, maybe you have, but you know, it's not like, I think people think, oh, I'm going to, she's going to get Botox and she's going to change. It's like, it's not necessarily that it's really just like you're, you're relaxing the muscles that are creating fine lines or whatever. But for girls, it's,
- For women. - Okay, we're talking about two different things. I mean, they're related. I was talking about the knife. - Oh, like going under for like a facelift, yeah. Yeah, no. - Which, you know,
As I always say, now you look old and weird. Sometimes, sometimes. Some people look fantastic, but you have to think about it. Well, I think so. And also, there's so many different reasons that people might need to go under the knife. It's not always just because they're doing it out of vanity. You never know. Oh, come on. Well, they're... Like what? Deviated septum? That old excuse? Yes.
I would say it's 99% vanity. I don't even know what the other 1% would be. Well, there are people with
deformities of sorts but yeah oh okay that's a different category i will allow deformities except well if we're talking about people with deformities yes okay fine but yeah most in beverly hills i'm guessing the deformity section of the okay yeah beverly hills yes i do yeah yeah
Vanity, but also, I don't know, that doesn't bother me. If somebody wants to do it. It's a shame if somebody ruins a beautiful canvas because they've taken it too far. Because that, to me, is some sort of mental illness.
Don't you think? To me, that is exactly a description of what you would be doing. Oh, yeah, no, no. I'm not going to go under this. If you ever got, you would be destroying the canvas. Oh, well, thanks. Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. Yeah, no, I wouldn't do the toxic surgery. And good advice, too, because I'm telling you. It's kind of scary to think about. I think, yeah. Oh, my God. I would be way too scared. But, you know, I mean, from a male point of view, I mean, I'm not, I know we're all fluid and gay now. Yeah.
But I'm like very old school. I'm just an old school heterosexual. And I'm telling you, just on an aesthetic level, you're doing great. And that will continue for so many more years that, you know, either they'll have something by then that works. They'll have something by then. They'll have a magic tape that just lifts everything. Yeah.
You never know. You know, and I suggested this for years and no one's done it. I wish they had what I call the thin mask, which is when you're 35 years old, they take a...
like a mold of your face and then for the rest of your life you wear that so you can be you're always you stop aging and ate that you don't stop aging but you your face can you imagine it's called the thin mask and it's just like
You know, people put it on before they leave the house. Kind of like makeup. It's like, exactly. You just blow torch it onto your face with this thing, with the heater. It just looks natural. Right. Right. It's like, it's a step above makeup. And you're always 35. And then can you imagine how wonderful it would be to be like, have the wisdom of an 80 year old?
and still have the game of a 35-year-old because you got the thin mask. And I do think that's what people are trying to achieve, but maybe your idea is the one that they need to look into. I really feel like... I think everyone in Beverly Hills is chasing that, though. Wouldn't you rather have that than chat GBT? You never know.
Have you seen that shit? No, is it? Oh, well, yeah. The AI? Yeah. The thing that can do anything? It's doing kids' homework. Crazy. Everything's going to... That's the future, which is scary. What do you think about that? I mean, I was at dinner with someone a couple of weeks ago. I hadn't really... I'd read about it, hadn't seen it in action. He said... Gets out his phone. He said...
not Siri, because it's not Siri. Siri's like in third grade compared to this thing. He says, write a scene from the TV show Succession where Logan Roy hires Bill Maher to be on his network. And before he could finish talking almost, there it was. A scene, like, yeah. I mean, if I was a writer, like on a soap opera or something where it's like pretty basic that
I mean, I think you could just-- I saw someone try to write-- have it write monologue jokes. And they weren't ones I would do, but they weren't like worse than stuff I've read in people trying to get a job on our show. Yeah. Oh, god. I mean-- That's so wild.
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Yes, why not? If you're watching this, you want to know what I'm doing. And these are very entertaining shows, these live shows. I mean, entertaining. February 17th and 18th, I am at the David Copperfield Theater. I know that must be at the MGM because that's where I'm moving this year, the MGM Grand. Very excited about that. Las Vegas, February 17th and 18th. And February 25th, the Hard Rock Live.
in Sacramento. I think it's outside of Sacramento, but I think that's the market. Anyway, if you're from Sacramento proper, what I'm saying is you don't have an excuse. It is drivable. It's California. You know, it's not going to be a snowstorm. Although, yeah. Oh, the rain, I forgot. If it's still raining, you're off the hook. Okay.
Before we go any further with this, you're not going to tell me you were not attractive in high school. You're not going to give me that old model. No. Well, when I was younger, I went to an all-girls Catholic school. What? Yeah. And I went to an all-girls Catholic school in Rhode Island, which you have never been to, I understand. No, I've been there, but not in a while. You don't need to go back. I'm just kidding. It's actually really... I love it there. But...
Yeah, I went to an all-girls Catholic school. I played the cello. Cello?
Yeah. You chose that instrument? My parents did. My parents are both musicians, so we all, and I'm one of five, so me and all of my siblings all. Like, what do you mean musicians? What'd they do? My mom plays with the Boston Symphony and the Boston Pops. She plays the viola. Yeah, she's really good. The Boston Pops? Mm-hmm. Wow. That's as high as you can get, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, she's really very talented. What does she play? The viola.
Is that in a string quartet? Is that one of the ones in a... Oh, wow. It's like a violin, but... A little bit bigger. A little bigger. And it's deeper. And then my dad played the trumpet. So that's where they... That's how they met. And so everybody in my family played instruments and stuff. So I don't know. I was definitely not sought after.
Really? By men? By boys? Well, high school, I feel like I blossomed. In middle school, I was just very nerdy. Very nerdy. I wasn't the popular one. I wasn't the hot one. No, not at all.
What happened? I think I just grew taller. Yeah. I grew really tall. When I was in like fifth grade, I was something, well, I was very, I was overweight when I was younger. So when I was younger, when I was like in elementary school and middle school, my parents would always have to sit me down and tell me it's time to go on a diet. And I was on the percentile. I was on the trajectory to be obese, right?
because I was just really... I just hadn't had my growth spurt. I think that's really what it came down to. I see where all this sensitivity comes from. But why was it, as a kid... Is that because you lived in the restaurant and you ate the scraps? No, I don't know. I think I was... I really couldn't tell you. I...
I went to... Okay, well, actually, really, if you really want to know the God's honest truth, because I've talked about it with my parents because it is pretty unbelievable. I mean, I don't even talk about this publicly because nobody ever believes that I was actually overweight. They're like, I roll ball up. But my parents were very worried that I was going to be unhealthy. I was unhealthy. They were worried about the future. How old are we talking about? Like...
middle school in elementary school but here's what is that 10 12 it was i was overweight from the time that i and i don't mean like overweight i was like the doctor was like this girl still not losing weight like you need to like you need to whip her into shape like chubby over yeah more than chubby more than chubby yeah more than chubby and they would so anyway
So when I was in elementary school, middle school. So here's the thing. When I was in first grade, I'm the only one out of all five of my siblings. I went to this school. Every day was different fast food. So like Monday was McDonald's. Tuesday was Pizza Hut. Wednesday was Taco Bell. Thursday was KFC. Friday was another like, you know. So five days a week. And I think that that's what kind of got me off to a bad start. Yeah. But anyway. Doesn't that tell you a lot?
about America and how much it really gives a shit about health. - I know, so well, yeah, but anyway. - So much talk about, especially with the pandemic, just do what we say here in the government.
But you've demonstrated over and over again in the government that you really don't care about people's health. And it always is about the food companies or the pharmaceutical industries or, you know, where the money is. I mean, the money, I'm not saying this is they get in a room and like plot this out, but there's a lot of money in keeping people sick or just not healthy. So many people in this country are just not healthy. And then selling them the cure for that, which is...
You know, all the pharmaceutical products that people are on. Oh, that is horrible. I mean, to me, I like the conversation around body to positivity. I like embracing curves. I think that's very important. I'm proud that we're going in that direction. So I know you don't agree with that, but there is one area that I agree. I could show you some people I don't think you should be proud of.
Well, because. OK, but we've had that discussion. Go ahead. Pharmaceutical. I agree. That is a huge problem. I think that people are people don't know how to cope. They don't know how to self soothe because they're constantly given a bandaid in the form of a Xanax or an Ambien. And it's horrible. That to me is heartbreaking because when you can't escape the grips of that.
Oftentimes it can lead to addiction and, you know, worsening the symptoms that you're trying to cure. So that to me is the bigger issue and more heartbreaking because I don't think people always know what they're getting themselves into. And addiction is something that you can't escape that. Like you, you don't know if you, if you get, if you are...
Going through high school and, you know, you dabble in X, Y and Z, even alcohol. Like I always consider it kind of a miracle when you don't become when you're not an addict. And I have addiction in my family and various people. So I think that's why I'm more sensitive to it. But I do feel like a lot of people don't understand the fear that they should have before dabbling in any drug or alcohol or whatnot. And then when it's prescribed from a doctor supposed to have your back, you know.
would assume that they have the best intention, but they don't always. Well, I mean, I don't know if you followed the story about the opiates and the Sackler family who sold OxyContin. I think their pharmaceutical company, billions and billions of dollars, and they had to pay billions and billions of dollars
because they were caught doing what they were doing, which is basically peddling Oxycontin to people. And, you know, they call it the hillbilly heroin. Right, yeah. And, I mean, have you ever, like, broken a bone or something? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have? No, I haven't, but I know where you're going with the conversation. Well, I mean, like, there are times when, you know, you can mangle yourself so badly that you really do need, you know...
Totally, totally. But it's very easy to get hooked on them. 100%. And they should only be given out for like the, you know, that chart. You've been in a hospital room and they have a chart on the wall so that the nurse, you can point to your pain level. It's one to ten. Yep, yeah, yeah. And, you know, if a cartoon had the person in like a tent, he's like screaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know.
It's very hard to know who's a pussy and who's not. I mean, some Marine might be really at an eight and he points to two because he can take it. Right. And somebody else is barely feeling it and says it's a nine. Yeah. Or they want to get what they know that they can get if they go to the guy with the eyes. Exactly. Yeah. No, exactly. But, you know, it's very easy just to point to the bulging eyes guy. Nobody questions you and they have really no way of knowing and then gives you the OxyContin test.
And that's when the heartaches begin. Right, right, right, yeah. That's sad. I mean, that's sad. Some people, I don't know. Some people know exactly what they're getting themselves into. I don't think that a lot of people do, though. But I don't know. Well, and that's why this family was forced to pay billions of dollars. Right. Because the jury, I guess it was a jury, yeah, saw it that, well, I guess they said,
There's some responsibility people have, but this company also took advantage of people in a way that you couldn't really expect people to defend against. You're in the hospital. You're in pain. It's a doctor. Right. You know, um.
And the doctors are complicit in it too. I mean, somebody has to write the prescription. But they judged in that situation, you're pretty vulnerable. So I understood that award very well. I mean, I think they should have actually hit him harder and nobody went to jail. But, you know...
A lot of people are dying in the, you know, already have. I mean, it's something, this number may be wrong, but something like 70 to 100,000 a year. I mean, that's way more than like lots of things that we pay a lot more attention to. That's so true. And I think even aside from that, some people are just, you know, functioning drug addicts. And that's hell on earth too. Like people that are just completely hooked, maybe they're not...
you know, it's not, they're not too far gone, but they're suffering every day because they're completely beholden to these pills that they, that that's the thing. It's like, I think that, yes, you have to manage your pain, of course, but you have to understand that you're like on a very slippery slope because I don't, to me, I don't think addiction, addiction doesn't really like pick people
you know, it's not going to pick favorites. It's not going to pick people that it's not going to have its hold on. It's scary. And it's a real thing, but I don't think people know enough about it. I mean, there's two movies that stand out that are football movies. North Dallas 40. I don't know if you ever saw that. It was in the 70s. It's great.
I'm sure your boyfriend has seen that one. Yes, of course. And it's fantastic. Just outside of football, it's just really well made. Nick Nolte, Mac Davis, it's really good. So, and then Oliver Stone made a movie in the 90s. I think it was called Any Given Sunday. Oh, yeah, yes. Al Pacino was the coach. Right, yeah. Cameron Diaz was the team owner. Yeah. Both movies have prominent moments
themes in it about what they're giving the players when they get hurt, how they're lying to them, how the players are coping. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a lot about needles and pills and, you know, the choices they make them make between like
Are you a team player? Are you going to get back in there? Horrible. Yeah. I mean, I think that there's been progress from that. But, you know, I think, you know, whether you're getting your wisdom teeth out or you break a bone or you break multiple bones, I think that sometimes people, if they don't know what they're getting themselves into, they don't know. And it's violent. There's no there's no way you can have these.
muscular large men running each other and I mean this must worry you you must be a little nervous when you watch a game oh yeah oh my god it's horrible I can't really eat before knots in my stomach the whole time some games are better than others worried about that? yeah worried about worried about anybody getting hurt if I see anybody getting hurt whether it's on the team that I'm rooting for or the other team I mean
My my heart sinks because it's scary and you're gonna have to play with pain that You have to always are making the decision. Is this like really damaging or is it just hurt? Yeah, and I think athletes get very good at that smart. Let's do like they're like, yeah, I
This fucking hurts a lot, but it's not, I can wait till the end of the season. It's not something that's going to get worse. It's just, I'm just going to, every time they bang on it, it's just going to fucking kill me. Yeah. But it's, you know what? Yeah, no, I know. I think it's mental. It's mind over matter. Well, yes. And adrenaline. Adrenaline, yeah. But you have to love it so much that you're willing to put up with that pain. 100%, yeah. You know. Yeah. So, anyway. Well, I...
I wouldn't want to have that job. No. Well, sounds like that's a very serious relationship then if you're that nervous about somebody. There's certain ways I always think of like how you know it's serious. And that certainly is one when you're worried about the other person. Yeah. And the other way is like, can you watch a movie together?
- Yeah, I ask a lot of questions, but he's fine with that at this point. - During the movie? - Well, sometimes I'll just be like, I just talk a lot. What can I say? - See, it's so funny you mention that because this is exactly what I was thinking of. When you watch a movie, no really, first of all, well, two things, first.
Or I'll be on my phone. It's important that you want to watch the same movies generally. Oh, yeah. God. Yep. If it's a situation with your partner where it's like, okay, I'll watch this one for you. And then you watch this one for me.
get out of that. That's never going to work. You don't have enough in common. You're just horse trading. I don't know why, because other things are good, but get out. If you do want to watch the same movies generally, okay, then while you're watching the movie, see, here's my rule. You can talk
When they're not talking. Yeah, that makes sense. The people on the screen. Yeah, yeah. When they're talking, you can't talk. Because like, and I've had girls say to me,
I can do both. I can hear what they're saying. I think we really can as women. I think women can. I can't. I can genuinely hear two things at once. I think. I really can. I could be having a conversation with you. I'm the first to say you're smarter than me in this regard. Absolutely. You're a smart girl. I'm not surprised you can do this, but I can't. So I'm saying it's like we're watching TV together. We've never even met. But like you're filling in for every woman I've had this argument with.
Yeah, yeah. When they are talking, you don't talk. It's not every woman. Then when they stop talking, when there's just a scene where they're walking along a bridge or something in the music, then you can talk. So he doesn't really care. The thing about him is he usually falls asleep like five minutes into every movie. Really? Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter. He goes to bed at like eight, wakes up at six. It's very easy for me. I get to watch whatever I want. There's no like I get to watch.
What do you want to watch? You just, you know, the only problem is maybe if he snores and I have to just whack him with a pillow or something. But besides that, I get to watch whatever I want. Maybe you should be with Aaron Rodgers. That poor guy. No. I love him.
He was on this, right? He was on this. Yeah. He's my favorite football player. Do you know, Huberman, I don't remember his first name, but he has a podcast called Huberman Lab. You would like it. You should listen to it because it's all about health and stuff. And I'm always curious. Did you get a vaccine? That's my favorite subject. Yeah. Oh, you should listen to it. You would really like it. But that's a big subject for you too, right? I mean, you're interested in, well, you know, anything that makes you healthier. Yeah.
I know they call it. Yeah. I would say for me, I'm more, I'm more men, mental health for me is more of a focus than physical health. I mean, I, like I was saying before, like, I feel like I'm pretty lucky and I do like to work out because it makes me feel good. I'm working out because of my mental, the, the way that it helps my mental state, not necessarily because I feel like I want to have a six pack, if that makes sense. So I do a lot of, I do a lot of self work,
I love, like I meditate, I do a ton of journaling, I read all the books. Like I try to work on that stuff because I feel like, you know, happiness is an inside job, which I know is like such a cliche, but it really is. It really is. Meaning when you say that, you mean like,
you can decide to be happy as opposed to... That's a good question. Is that what you mean by that? No, I mean that happiness comes from within. It's not going to be when I finally get my Oscar because you said I'm a good actress. It's not really going to happen when that external validation comes to my doorstep. It's going to happen when I've learned to kind of
the way I relate to things in my external world, like my relationship with the things that I want, my relationship with the things that I have, my relationship with the things that have happened to me in the past. Like, how do I feel about this? How has this affected me? How do I want to react to this? How is this person triggering me? Why is it triggering me? You know, those kind of questions. And that's why I work out, too. I mean, yes, aesthetically it looks better, too, but like...
As far as gravity and stuff goes. But I think it's also really important because it makes you feel good. It makes you feel like you can take on the day as opposed to feeling depressed and all that. I need to ask myself more of those, that little list of questions you had. Yeah. I don't, I think you got that.
down better than I do. I think I need to ask, like, what is it? Why is this triggering me? And like, you know, I feel like just at almost about to be 67, I feel like I'm only now like getting in touch a little with my unconscious, like realizing how powerful the unconscious is and like how, but because it's the unconscious, it's like, you don't, I was never sort of aware of it. And now I'm noticing like,
in dreams and stuff like, oh, okay. I had a dream here where like, I'm sitting here doing this and we've lost my pot and no one can find it. I swear to God, I just had that. That's a nightmare. It's not a dream. Did you wake up in a hot sweat? Exactly. And I realized like,
It was my unconscious fear that I can't do anything without marijuana. Yeah, right. Which is a pretty good fear because I can't. Well, maybe that was your subconscious or your little guardian angel trying to tell you that you are... Hooked? Yeah. That is ridiculous, Olivia. I didn't know what to say. That's ridiculous. No. People have said that to me before. They said, you're addicted to marijuana. And I tell them every time.
I've been smoking for 43 years. If I was addicted, wouldn't you know by now? I love that. I'm not an everyday smoker. Okay. How often do you smoke? Oh, like three times a week. Yeah. This is the most. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Just because I, you know, I love smoking.
I mean, I used to sit here at club. Do you like club random, by the way? It's very random. I love the pool table. I love pool. I have a pool table in my house, actually. It's kind of cool, though, isn't it? It is cool.
I'm all for the pot, though. I think my parents hotbox their room like every night. My dad grows weed. Yeah. Really? I understand that, you know, I mean, we have on the surface a little in common. One thing I love about doing this show, and I was starting to say, is to come here and do this pot long before we put it on camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is sort of like who exactly I am and what my life is.
But this is just even better because, like, I mean, I have a lot of great friends and we would do this. But now, I mean, I've seen you a lot. I mean, TMZ, by the way, this is why you tell your agent you should be in the Marvel movie, is because, like, they see you as a star. TMZ has you on all the time. They don't cover everybody like that.
They don't. It's interesting. I mean... One of those guys over there must like me. Maybe they're... I think it's a consensus. I think that... I mean, look, I happen to become very good friends with Harvey Levin. I love him. He's like my soulmate. Oh, yeah. I feel like I've known him for a long time. And I love that show. It's just fun.
They actually, once in a while, branch off from just celebrity gossip. They cover issues. They cover, like, the things... It gives me a good idea of, like, what the average American, what is getting on their radar. And sometimes it is political, you know? Right. Zelensky and... Right, right, yeah. That has to be something that makes it sort of... Well, he's a movie star, don't forget. He's a what? He's a movie star. Yeah. Hello! Where have you been? You're right. But...
Oh, no, I forgot what we were talking about. TMZ and you like it. Oh, yeah, TMZ. They cover you like a star. That's what you should tell your agent because, like, I'm telling you, they don't do that to a lot of people. I mean, there's a lot of people they could potentially cover. The fact that they do it, I think so...
Anyway, the Marvel movie, even that was like a tangent of something else. I think the title of this should be Olivia Coppola for the next Marvel movie. And we can just start campaigning. That's how you get things. Well, stranger things have happened. I'm actually surprised they haven't thought of it yet. Well, I will write that down and let my agents know. At some point, like, for example, um,
Gal Gadot. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is Wonder Woman. Yes. Wonder Woman. That's what she was. I still have a hard time. And I really don't see any of these movies. A long time ago, I watched a few of them and they all have the same story, origin story. And the one that they hated the most was Catwoman and was the only one I liked.
'Cause it was the same story, but Halle Berry was smoking hot in it. - Oh, well, so that was the one before, 'cause the newer one is with, isn't it? - Right, I saw that one too. Oh God, that was, I mean like, is there no joy in Gotham? Everything is always just so, no matter who they get to play Batman, he talks like this and the city's falling. Really? - He needs to lay off the smoking.
See, that's a real problem in this country. I'm just kidding. I don't judge smoking. I mean, I have a lot of friends who do, but anyway. The original point was I do love to smoke pot and talk with somebody interesting. I've seen you and seen you covered that way on TMZ, so I'm glad you accepted my offer to be here. I really appreciate it. I know you've got a million things going and you don't need this.
Oh, thanks. Well, it's random. And I'm sure your publisher was like, well, you don't want to sit down with him. He's a crazy pothead. He couldn't say anything. And I did. And you're fine. Yeah.
- Look, I'm alive. - You're alive. - I would just like to say that it's not a reflection of who I really am. I'm just kidding. - No. - No, this was fun. I mean, it is random. - It is random. - That's what makes it fun. - Exactly. - Yeah. - But I'm glad I got to know you and your career's gonna do great in your 30s. - Thank you. - If you wanna go in that direction,
Or you could be hosting the evening news when you're 40. I don't know. But I know I'll be seeing you around. Thanks. All right. Thank you. Thanks so much. I'm sorry about the call. It wasn't that bad. I actually really wasn't that cold. Were you just like freezing? I was shivering at one point.