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It's time rep showed five hundred and eighty one of the clockwise pig gas from relay recorded wednesday, november twenty of two thousand twenty four clockwise, four people, four, take topics thirty minutes.

All welcome back clockwise, the tech podcast, where we always have time to talk turkey. My name is dane more, and I am joined to cross the internet by my good friend, my pal, the one and only mica sergeant. Are you doing today? ma?

I'm doing IT very well then. I am looking forward to the thanksgiving holiday, and i'm feeling fine.

excEllent. That's exactly what we want to hear on the show. Uh, the other thing we want to hear on the show or two fantastic guests and to my left this week, IT is really community manager. Come with occasionally robison business unicorn and official sandwich decision maker Cathy campo. Cathy, my having a sandwich today.

listen, I just copied and paste my discord bio decided to get a little bit fancy and throwing the official sandwich decision maker because I tell you officially, if something .

is a super sandwich options sandwich.

okay, then there .

is a human, do not eat humans without consent.

okay, go on IT.

but to buy left the apple tense, consult shortcuts expert, and neither a soup nor a sandwich is Matthew cassini. I, hello, Matthew.

hello, hello. Thank you for every me. I'm curious, do you eat or drink soup because this is this was a controversy in the workflow team that even bled his way into apple .

videos about depends if a boor in a mug. Yes, yeah, anyway.

I I don't.

There's no.

there's no problem. There's no question.

This should probably do the actual show. Okay, let me kick things off. This week, I been trying to clear out my ad, and I have a box of dvds and cds in my, I don't know what to do with them.

Have you ripped all your old physical media and got to rid of them? Have you just release them with digit equivalence? Do you just declare CD, DVD, bankrupcy? What do I do? Kathy helps me, please.

I have basically a delivered all of mine to goodwill um whether or not they do anything with that up to them at my problem type of a thing ah but yeah the only I do have a couple exceptions. One is the nineteen and ninety five version of the pride prejudice BBC version um I also have the lord of the rings for the commentary and extras and then I have the a red uh the red current logy of mulan rouge when we on july at and strictly ballroom room um because uh my best got them for me at our first university so meaningful but other than that everything's .

gotten well because one time there was one film that was unavailable to my significant other. Um we have gone the other way with everything which is that now regularly a box will arrive on the door step and IT will have my significant others name on IT and inside will be multiple D, B, S.

Because you can send them to you .

yeah you can send them. Well, don't send them to me, send them to him. I don't want them.

I wish ed and have them, but we have them. Um they there are lots of dvds, not even blue rice. No just DVD um that are now a thing that we have.

I A any any movie that I because I used to have a netflix DVD subscription for this purpose. There was ever a film that he wanted to watch that we couldn't find on streaming. Um I could use the influx DVD thing and then somehow some weird, strange way IT would end up in my digital collection. Really weird.

Not sure how that .

works yeah smos and that's an osmotic more than and I would I would do that with anything that I also got uh so if there was ever an occasion where there was a film that I really wanted to see, but IT wasn't available like the super mario brother's live action film um then I would I just wanted to see if I was as bad as I remember that being um and also to try to figure out what the story of the thing actually was still not sure, but I somehow make that into a digital version. So I very much live in a digital world um but by way of my significant other, we also have a physical media collection pathy what about you?

I have swung in the complete opposite way and i've started buying my stuff because I found out about cheap charts dot info. It's the site that lists all of the discounts on the apple T V store. And it's it's extremely helpful because you should never pay basically more than five dollars for like a digital movie.

And this basically just lets you know whenever it's on sale and you can actually get that plus on the T, V shows and stuff. Complete series are also on sale. I just got the pride and prejudice BBC series like two weeks ago, so I feel like that perfect timing.

But this is just my way of like getting IT all onto my devices. Also are watching all of the rings like this week, so I feel like happy we're on the on the same page that be A I I just started buying at all and i'm just kind of relying on that. And then it's actually like relatively affordable. I feel a little Better than at getting stuff after backtracks.

Then I okay, so none of you have helped me know IT, although then i'm sending one of dvds to Michael's house. I strugling with this like, I mean, are you haaf? Obviously, I put those dvds in a box and they went into the attic when I moved into this house, which was like three years ago and I have not been off their so it's not like I missing any of them.

I always feel very uh, comfortable with TV shows and movies being largely femoral experiences for me like I used to buy movies and occasionally TV shows. And there's definitely cases where stuff I couldn't get or couldn't get in the original form matter or something i've held on to. I'm just thinking about the fact my cause that has a laser displayed in star wars, laser distinct, anyway, random.

So I feel like I am very comfortable often renting films or streaming films when they are available. There is very few cases, well, like I need to have this film right now. But I also realized there's some stuff that isn't available and I do want to hold out YSL copies. The other issue i'm having is that I think there is only one device left in my house within optical drive of any kind on IT, which is my old old, the x so even if I want to watch, uh, uh, D, V, D, i'm not even sure the best way to do that. And so I had this moment of should I buy like a cheap DVD drive attached to my mac mini and just rip a about to stuff and then the answer was that isn't like is that just more trouble than it's worth?

Um so I guess I will just try to get rid of more of the DVD like keep hearing down the collection till I get to the really just like these are the things I really want to own um and like kind of minimize rather than going one where or the other because I just don't I don't want to buy digital copies of all the movies I want because I don't feel I need to own them um but yeah I don't know I guess I guess the dilma continues. Anyway, thank you all for your thoughts on that. Let's go to our second topic, which comes from cafe.

Last week, I went to a sushi restaurant that was full of some incredible tech robots that bring drinks, tea table and make the two little noises, a tablet to order specific items, a fancy convey bet that would deliver those orders from the kitchen, and a prize machine that drops when you get a certain number of plates through the little shoot. What is the most tech fancy place you've ever attended?

There was a mcDonald sort of experiment that took place in my it's called .

the Greenness mia .

in my hometown um where they had ut the the tech of the mcDonald. And so with IT, you could you place your order digitally but because you could do that, I meant that you could do any sort of customization that you wanted because there wouldn't be any confusion, I guess. So then they wouldn't have to remake IT so I don't know why I meant IT by having IT done by a computer.

IT was more customizable than if you were working with a human being um but basically from start to finish your interactions were all computer based and you could you know say you wanted your prize extra crispy or less crispy or whatever. Um IT wasn't incredibly high tech per IT was just without humanity involved with king process I guess. So yeah that's probably the most tech fancy place that i've been to Matthew, what about you?

I feel like that's the exact same situation as mine was from this restaurant called eza that was in safran. Cisco, when I live there in like two thousand and fifteen. And IT was kind of like you would go up to an ipad and order your food and then I would come out of basically like an amazon delivery locker type thing that look fancier than that. But I just kind of would appear in a chAmber for you to get the food out of um but one of the worst things about reading this article is there like, oh, it's the food is six ninety nine and it's a referencing they like excessive toast that's four dollars of 3Francisco and it's just fruitful because I know all of this stuff would be seventy ninety nine now I oh my god， I guess those were the good old days work well.

i've mean purely .

non food related tech. The fancy is tech place. Everything probably like this new world, but food related that was .

in the question then you just .

said the most take like the most take fatty place you've attended.

You didn't say kay fine.

No, actually I always amusement. I saw this because just the other week, I was done in new york city for the day, and I was catching up with a friend from college and he was like, hey, let's go to this place where they deliver your sushi. And a compared about, I was like, that sounds wild to do that.

And IT was very similar words, like you order stuff ed by tablet, and then you sit next to this like a wall of compare belt, and just every once a while goes exp, and then you open a little door and take out your food. And I thought I was very weird and cool. Um I don't know how I felt about there was one point where we were trying to get something that wasn't on the menu literally t was just not on the menu on the ipad.

We had to try to flag somebody down. I was like, okay, I get the idea of making these sings very technologically friendly. But at the same time, I don't feel like IT IT gets rid of the need for timer service like I still want to be able to, you know, deal with a person in cases where the technology is not living up to things that I did find parts of the interface kind of confusing to. So I had very mixed feelings on IT like I did like the quickness with which stuff to delivered and IT was kind of just fun and novel um but at the same time there were I felt like elements of the experience gott sort of left out a bit there.

So I able to get tea yes, we did eventually.

but we had to get somebody to bring IT to us because probably delivering hot tea on this people disaster. I'll be wearing in that hot tea anyway. Got you want to report up?

yeah. So the place I went to is called kota sushi H K U R A. Um they have places all over the us. And by that, I mean like three other big cities but still not just the important and area and I IT was very expensive um but the experience was worth at nice cool to .

see everyone .

i've been to no .

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Um what's the piece that you were excited about that when you purchase ended up just disappointing? You IT was just not what you expected or IT didn't work or for whatever reason you got IT and you're like, well, i'm not angry. I'm just really disappointed, Matthew. I'll start with you. You could be angry to but disapointment is important for this.

I think sadly, i'm gonna have to go with the vision pro. I. I did the thing where I got IT and used IT like six hours a day or more for the first two weeks and I like date ten.

I had like a red spot on the right on my right eye from ice ring where i'm pretty sure IT was because I tried watching mad max in three d above my head while I was working. And so, like, my brain just was like, this is in thirty two feet in front of me, but there is also windows on the wall, eight feet away. And IT is just like, I pressure, I just crossed de in the device.

So wow.

but I think also just like I want minority report style shortcuts building, and that's not there in those kind of things. So I think it's just like so much of what I wanted wasn't there adversus like the potential is there and that's part of what's so disappointing as it's like if you had just change these things and then I can even go back to like my quest and play games step, I know won't come to the vision pro for like ten years or something like that. So at sometimes it's just like this is right here and this is over here, but IT doesn't work and that's that's restating.

I feel like this is an exceptionally long list for me I find regularly disappointed.

I mean, so here's the struggle .

was they get about this and like there a few I could name whether like, you know what I think ultimately the problem with some of those was me like they're just ended up doing things that I didn't get as much use out of as i'd hoped. So things I would put in that category include, uh, the play date, which I think is an awesome little device. I just didn't end up using IT very much.

And then math, he's going get mad. me. I just removed my stream deck from my, from my desk.

I was just sitting there. I never remember to use IT. I never remember to use IT. IT was just taken up the USB and I feel bad. It's like it's over there.

Maybe i'll get back to you when these moments when i'll find I like the right task for IT. Um but I I think the thing i'm going to pick, uh that was sort of a big disappointment, uh, is the the this is a device category. It's the smart speakers with screens.

I was so excited for the possibility that I had an echo show when those first came out. I still have a google nest tub that's basically just a digital picture frame right now. IT literally doesn't do anything else.

Um and I love this idea of ambient technology of like glens ble information, like all the stuff is really cool. I just found IT kinds useless. And I think especially with the echo show, IT gets so junked up, the experience was just bad. IT felt very much like amazon was trying to push shopping and all these things I didn't want to do when I really just want to make this device about what I wanted IT to be.

And that fact that I would not let me customize IT to the level of something that was useful for me just got me frustrated and made me feel like in the end, IT was a worst experience, a worst experience than a smart speaker with no screen. Um so I think that for me is kind of that the pinnacle of devices where I got that I was really excited about all the potential um and it's still a category I am very excited about and maybe apples room to be working on something similar. Maybe that one i'll be Better or maybe i'm just, you know charlie Brown kick in a football again. I don't know Kathy, whatever you uh so .

I had a hard time with this because I don't really buy things unless like I know i'm gonna want IT or you like use IT for a specific reason um but I will say I bought years ago in in uh the pandemic times a pi times I bought one of the p vo P V OS um which was meant like IT um is like a little handy dandy little thing that like tracks when you're filming so like I can move around so you know this was back when I was doing a lot of tiktok and was like, oh this i'll be great. Um however, I just rotate tes like horizontal so IT doesn't go up and down IT all um so you have to have IT in a very specific place for like what you're like, the style of videos that you're looking for and IT just takes a long time to get set up and like configured and IT just ended up. It's not it's not .

what .

I wanted IT to be. So I think that's probably the closest thing to being dissapointed about.

Um well for me and thank you all, by the way, for your answers on that. It's oddly enough, it's a very similar thing. Apple introduced a cool A P I called dock kit, which gave third party developers the ability to kind of um use building features in the iphone to turn on tracking that would work with the um with the dock that they provided.

And belkin um made a dock kit enabled dock um that you can swap your iphone to. It's a it's a mag safe uh dock and IT actually does go up and down and left and right, not just left and right. But I don't know in in theory IT sounded like a really cool thing um in practice I finally got IT and I was just very, very, very underwhelmed.

I thought I would have more control over the the experience but IT really is just like you put your phone on IT um you open up the camera APP and then IT does the rest and I thought OK I would hope that I could have maybe some control over the speed at which IT changes or maybe I could say only track my face or track the full body or track hap nothing I just always supposed to IT just works. And there are a lot of things that I am happy when I just works. This was one where I was disappointed that IT seemed very underpowered uh and therefore underwhelming. So yeah that brought to mind the decision to or the the desire to ask you all about your own tech disappointment. So thank you for sharing and let us move on to our next topic, which comes for Matthew.

So blue sky is the social network of the moment and basically the mainstream alternative to Mason and the only other one that isn't owned by some sort of billionaire son. And also, you should follow each of us on there. But my question is, if there is one social network that could be revived today instead, what would IT be and why? And just assume IT IT worked like all the other issues aside.

a pink jo, anybody .

know with this?

I struggle with this one a lot because I think I have recently really hit that conclusion point where i'm like what social media thing you should we make that all and I just don't know. I mean, like honestly like twitter circa two thousand and ten, like maybe we just start that out and bring that back. Um I don't know that there are a lot of other social media networks that I really feel like i've missed.

I mean I I ve done all of them at various times. Um if if I don't know this qualifies the social media network, but my wife constantly thinks google wave was before its time and should be proper. Um I was some a team, two or something so yeah I don't know that I have one in particular that I think was great.

Um I know there's bits of nostalgia, things like friendster in my space and that kind of stuff. But you know I I just I just don't feel great about social media so i'm onna stick with my a witter from like circa two thousand and seven to two thousand and ten um was a good little chunk of time um before everything went horribly a reas just carve that out in the captain off on either end. I visit that like a time period with dinosaurs or something. Think that's .

that's a good that's kind of the same vive i'm going with but instagram before I was bought by facebook yeah if IT was great, you know back when everyone was chill and you would you know just take pictures of your food and like that those interaction things um but I did IT. So I was just scrolling through um my old apps to see because there was one I remember that was kind of like be real is now where you would just kind of post like like moments of time. But IT wasn't as high tech um and I was just reminded of the game hanging with friends.

You know i'm going to .

call that a social video so let's make that a thing. Who wants to be my hanging with friends and we can play hung man, that baby .

not let's go. Yes yeah.

something more fun.

Yeah.

I like king man, but just yeah um so for me, i'm going to go where i'm actually going to go with my space and that is because I loved going to different people's myspace pages and seeing the H T M L that they had learned. And I think that a that was a certainly my introduction to coding um which some people argue is not really introduction to coding. But IT was for me IT was a gateway to IT.

Um and yeah I just really liked having that sort of drive to customize your page and create something. And yes, I realized the personal websites exist and yield ta. It's not the same. IT is not the same at all. Um there is something about figuring out how to kind of get around the different parts of myspace that were locked in to be able to do what you wanted on your page and that I found quite delightful. So yeah, i'm going with that um with a secondary little plug for neopets which is technically still I think around um but neopets back in my early internet days was delightful and so recapturing that joy would be would be nice matthee won't you run to start here?

Those are good answers and they are all incorrect. The answer is clink uh is a game from like two thousand eight maybe um where you would draw one person would draw something on from their screen using the mouse and then everyone would guess the answers in the chat. And as the entire social network, I remember talking to people being like A S, L, in the chat to, like around people, and still like I was.

I was on my friend paul s. Mac, because I didn't even have one at the time. I was so Young. Such a good game. Oh my god.

B, B, S S. I'm going with B B S S. Is that ort of a social tworog way? Um alright, that's four topics down. We've just have time for a bones topic. But I will remind you all first that if you need clockwise merch and you do need clockwise merch, clearly you should go check out our story clockwise, that social, where you can find hats, t shirts, phone cases, tote bags, all the great things you need for some holiday shopping for the clockwise fan in your life. And I know there are very many that's clockwise, that social so bone's question time um do you have a favorite thinkers giving good Cathy, i'll stay with you.

Math potatoes is always a hundred percent the correct answers um but this year i'm also i'm making mrs. Hacket's uh sweet potato casserole because every time we go down for a poco a thon we have thanksgiving ving dinner and this is magic. I don't know how to describe IT other than it's like graded sweet t potatoes with flavorings and so much butter um and of course it's delicious. Um so I think that might be my new favorite that i've had several times.

Pumpkin E I make up a very good pumpkin pie that for some people is a little bit on the spicy side. IT was in having just a tinge, too much spice. But I really love to get those rich layers of spice that kind of warm the back of your throat. And so yeah, a nice spiced pumpkin pie. Is is my my pic Fisher.

although are both my answers. So i'm going to say something to try to do Better this year is making cheese and make like a solid guy. Macon, cheese is all about the rule.

I, I, I find IT hard to pick one, but although you've all picked excEllent ones and and think of my uncle routinely made senator rusal sweet potato es, which are like a basically similar in that vein. And those are always really good.

But I think I will pick, oh, you know what my mom makes awesome crayon berry sauce, just like straight up, real like fresh ground race us to the point where we had think's giving with both my parents in my in laws a few years ago and my father and lock after reading so much about my very so I think my mother and what I gotten know IT IT was very good. Anyways, thank you for that. We all anticipate some delicious meals to come.

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Thank you for having me.

And Matthew casey, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank rever me as well. And I we back next week, squeeze in one more show before thanksgiving here in the U S. Um and then we'll dig immediately into our face size. But until then we remind everybody losing me out there. What would you say and .

keep watching the clock by everybody.