Gus Johnson Is A Menace
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Welcome back everyone to the chuckle sandwich. I'm the meat charlie slimeskull here, of course with ted Hey, what's up? I'm the butt pieces of bread on either end and schlatt. Hey guys, i'm the mayonnaise And not only that not only that but again today the sandwich grows believe it or not Uh, we also have here a special guest gus johnson

Yeah! Thank God. I'm glad I do not have to be the male. That's the worst part of the sandwich. We're getting there. We're getting there. Fuck you!

Mayo accomplishes one thing. It makes the sandwich more moist. It does not add to the flavor. It does not detract the flavor. I love moisture. It's shit. We'll get into it. We'll get into how wet we want the sandwich for a good hour. But Gus is a YouTube comedian. He's got 3 million subscribers. He's also a musician, a filmmaker, and a fellow podcast host over on the Gus and Eddie podcast.

Um, but I've got one more question for him on what he is. Gus, what part of the sandwich are you? Oh, dude, I'm so glad you asked. Okay. I'm gonna tell you right now. I am a horseradish mustard. Okay. Not any of that golden shit. None of that spicy brown. I'm a horseradish mustard. Oh, interesting. Okay. Can you verbalize, can you verbalize your tang?

My tang? Here's your tang. First of all, talk about a lasting tang, okay? Whether you like it or not, the impact that I make on this sandwich is going to be with you for hours, weeks after this, okay? It's a pungent, potent, wasabi-esque sting in the back of your throat. It's going to permeate every taste bud and infect you from within. That's my taste.

Gus, if you had to say what sort of sound that, like, for instance, rappers, they make a sound sometimes in between their verses. If you had to associate a sound from a rapper with this tang that you are speaking of, what type of sound would that be? Not a rapper, rather, but another man of culture, another artist. It would be a ka-chow. Ka-chow.

Oh, okay. Lightning McQueen. Nice one. Yeah, he's a fast guy, so I figured, you know. Lightning McQueen is really fast, and we wish we could have Lightning McQueen on the podcast, but unfortunately we had to settle for Gus Johnson. If you kept him in one enclosed recording studio for too long, the fumes of his car would asphyxiate himself, so that's a no-go. Yeah, because he's a lightning...

You speak as if from experience as well on this. It's like instead of heart disease, the number one death for the creatures in Cars is carbon monoxide poisoning. They just go inside and they die. Which definitely also implies that they do need to breathe. Oh, yeah, that's true. I don't know. There are a lot of strange implications in the Cars universe that I think nobody really wants to fully explore.

They never figured out the health parameters. I'm just trying to draw on the lines. What's metal and what's flesh? I don't know. The cars and cars just fucking die sometimes. Too much carbon monoxide. Get away from my sandwich! The sandwich before the show and had like 90% of my time with the sandwich has been pushing the goddamn cat away from it. Well, you make a hell of a sandwich now. He just keeps coming back up.

I feel good about that. I'm not chuckling right now. You got to make him a mini one. You know how they make the mini food for hamsters and shit? You got to give him one of those and give him a little Instagram account and say, go off, be an influencer, go eat that over there. He's trying to... Remember how we talked about how cats, when they walk on keyboards, they're doing mirroring? Maybe he's trying to mirror you. He's trying to take a nice bite of that sandwich. That's a good point. Trying to hoag it up. He knows what show he's on. Schlatt's very interesting. I feel like I don't...

Oh, go ahead. Schlatt's very interesting because I've never seen someone who has celebrated his cat so much. And yet the only thing I hear about of his out of his mouth in regards to his cat is just absurdly negative. He's an asshole. Well, he's cuddling it as well. You know, what an ass. He gets behind the ear a little. You just can't take note for an answer. And I don't feel the need, Gus.

I respect what you said, but I don't feel the need to pimp out my cat with an Instagram account or anything. I don't think he said that. It's for your own good. It's not even for the good of the internet. It's to protect you and your sandwich eating time. No, well, listen, I don't feel like I need to make a profit on this thing because I got him for $0. This creature. There was no overhead with the adoption process of this kitty because he had ringworm.

He was a sick cat. I took him in. I rescued him. I adopted him. I gave him a better life. And...

And he should start providing is what I'm hearing, right? Maybe he needs to post for some photos. Yeah, exactly. Maybe he's got to post for some photos. For you audio listeners, it shows. It's just a gnarled beast crawling around him right now. You happen to have a pet of your own, Gus, right? You've got Eva, I believe is the name. Yeah, I've got a dang little dog. She's a 12-year-old Chiweenie. How did you get this said Chiweenie of Eva fame? So...

Oh, dude, she was that was Sabrina's dog when she was growing up and her mom was taking care of Eva for a few years. And since the pandemic started, we just took over this dog and now she's she lives with us. We have full ownership of her. It's such an interesting way to say that we took over the dog. Yeah, you conquered Eva.

Yeah, we've got the old, we got the sign-off rights or whatever, you know? Yeah, but you bought out all the shares. Yeah, over 50% at least. 51, 51%. 51% of the time. So, Gus Johnson, how's your pandemic going so far? I mean, you were talking about, you know, you took over this dog from the pandemic, but, you know, it's been a full year at this point almost since this pandemic started. So how was this for you? Yeah.

Well, nothing else scuttling around so far. We might have termites, but we're like, hey, you know, we're probably only going to be in this place for a year, so maybe we just go, you know, on this one. But so we got those guys. Shout out, boys. Yeah, shout out. You know, get in there. Just keep it behind the drywall, boys, okay? That's all I ask. Thank you.

So anyway, we're doing that. I don't know. Quarantine's been all right. That's the thing is it's either been the greatest thing in the world where it's like, oh, my God, I'm reconnecting with an old friend or I'm making a new connection or here's a new game or now, hey, everyone's trying to do online stuff. So maybe I can punch up a little bit with some traditional media people and get them involved with what I'm doing. Like those are some positives.

But then also sometimes you have the worst fucking day of your entire life and it's just a little trade-off. Yeah, no, that's a really good way to put it. A lot of it is just trading off certain stuff. Yeah, and sometimes they ask you to come on the Chuckle Sandwich podcast. Yeah.

But you've been um, you've been kind of like exploring new mediums in a way in the quarantine You started doing twitch streaming more. Did you just start twitch streaming and during the pandemic? Is this the yeah, I think it was last March So I just did a year of it for the first time now. Oh, congratulations consistently as well

Yeah, pretty consistently, you know, like I'd fluctuate from doing every single day for maybe a week and a half and then maybe take a week off and

But for the most part, yeah, I'm kicking myself for not having fucking started it sooner, though. God damn, like it's so fun. And it's such it's just like turbo mode networking with some people, too. Like you meet people where it's like I've known that dude for years. Right. And I just want to say hi. And now I can just pop in because they're playing Jackbox and just go, hey, what's going on? And then we can start a dialogue. So it's like it's so cool. I've not seen that on YouTube or anywhere else before. So.

That seems to be kind of like the way that a lot of networking happens within the gaming world too, of like the YouTube gaming world in general. Because, I mean, you're generally a more like in-person sort of content creator with your like sketches and stuff. But so I can definitely see how like that's a whole new world for you of, you know, going online. And then it's like all these people who just kind of like exist online. So it's like as long as you have like, oh, she knows him and he knows him, you know, you can make that connection pretty easily. Yeah.

dude yeah it's so strange transitioning to online so like i love it and it's really nice for uh it's just convenient during a pandemic and stuff but yeah i mean usually the way it goes it's like you know you got a dude that you want to have in a sketch you say come on over and you shoot outside for like 45 minutes and it's like you want to go get some ramen or something maybe get some bud light and just play some smash or something you know that like that's how i love doing it but uh looking forward to reconnecting with that kind of shit yeah indeed

What's a fun one? Like a fun little networking thing that's happened online or because of Twitch in this past sort of year? Oh, dude. Well, I mean, T-Pain was like... Dude. There you go. T-Pain... And it was one of those ones where I was so pleasantly surprised because...

Not that it's a bad thing at all, but sometimes you'll have somebody reach out and be like, hey, what's going on, man? Love your shit. Let's do something. And then they kind of bounce. And that just never happens. Which is fine. I don't take it personally because I respect where it's just like sometimes you want to link up with somebody doing something cool and you can't entertain a long-term friendship or a series of public connections and shit. Sure, sure.

Like, for example, I do some shit with Comedy Central on the side. And like two years ago, I had an in-public person like bit idea at South by Southwest. And I talked to Comedy Central. I was like, could you give me like a celebrity for like a joke thing? And they're like, we got Creed and Todd Packer and Oscar from The Office. Who do you want? And I was like, oh, like, I'd love to shoot with Oscar.

And like he showed up to the shoot and stuff and was like super fucking chill and went out of his way to like look up ahead of time and be like, hey, I saw your cat video. Really funny stuff. You know, like the kind of like, oh, I can tell you jumped through the hoops of cordiality. Yeah, the nice customary networking stuff.

Exactly. So it's like something like that. But that's like, I obviously understand I'm never going to hear from him again, you know, until our paths potentially cross and unrelated thing later on. But sure. Separate from that, like a T pain, though, like that dude fucking reached out and was just so overwhelmingly sweet on the podcast and stuff and said he'd been like watching our shit and supporting us for years and stuff. Super cool.

And then has since then like rated multiple times and like just been tweeting back and forth and shit. And like I went on his Twitch stream show like two weeks ago and we talked for four and a half hours and just got super drunk and shit. And I'm just like, that was really fucking cool. Like a dude that you listen to and have been supporting for a while. Right.

That must be so crazy, especially because T-Pain was, you know, when we were growing up, I mean, T-Pain, he was releasing all these songs. It was fucking T-Pain. I mean, that's got to be. Yeah. Because I feel like a lot of the time with what we do, it's like we all, I feel like internally view ourselves as like D-list celebrities. So it's like we don't. But like so. So interacting with like someone who is like that, I don't know.

I guess I could say like a real celebrity. I mean, what is even a real celebrity these days when you've got like Addison Rae and Charli D'Amelio doing shit like that and going on Jimmy Fallon? But I mean, that must have been fucking walking on air. It was really cool. Yeah, it's really cool. And it still feels like it's very new to me to see those lines blurring, you know, like

And it was so, you know, it's so interesting to me too. And like, I hope this doesn't sound like I'm saying it with any sense of like an air of superiority at all, but I just found it so interesting where especially top of the pandemic when a lot of traditional media people were transitioning to like doing Twitch streaming and a bunch of shit, like for the first time ever.

Something just really perspective bringing to see like, oh, I know that guy. X person has – like I've seen his TV show for 10 years or whatever. Right. And now he's streaming on Twitch and there's like 70 people watching him. I have more people than he does on Twitch. It's a weird thing.

Exactly. And you're like, I look at that guy and still in my brain, I'm like, well, that guy's like, he's in there, you know, like he's doing shit. That's a celebrity and stuff. And I really don't think of myself as I really don't think any of us really think of that, you know, but then,

you'll see that kind of thing. I don't know. It's just, it's interesting. I hope that didn't sound douchey. No, it didn't at all. I think it, I think it definitely is a win for like us content creators to like see that. But I think the main difference and the reason for that probably is because, you know, they've got all these people, they've got their manager, their agent and stuff. A lot of their fame is sort of tied to the companies that will promote whatever they're in. If it's like a movie or something like that. Whereas like,

you know, our audience is directly tied to our social media accounts. And it's like, that's just, it's a, it's a lot more just like a to B than like, whereas the celebrities they've got like all of these things and, you know, they've also got social media, but it's like, yeah, no, I get, I get what you're saying though. That is, it is like a kind of a good feeling. Cause it's like,

Hey, well, and it's really weird, too, because and again, this year is illuminated more than any other year for me. But it seems like we're in this weird pocket with just culture and technology catching up with traditional media where there's a lot of overlap of like the people that are customarily in both camps want what the other people have.

So there's a lot of opportunities for overlap because you have these traditional guys that especially, you know, when their feet are to the fire in a pandemic are like, you know, I can't show up to the CBS set or whatever, like fucking this week, you know, I got to play Warzone or something like that, you know, and I'm like, hey, I'd love to even can I just be here?

You got PA one day on a CBS show. Hey, guys, did you see my cat video? Yeah, did you see my fucking cat video? Oscar said it was funny, man. So it's like you have that and it's like it's exciting if you know how to put yourself out there in the right way but not be a fucking overbearing prick. It's like a lot – you can have a lot of like cups pouring into each other in terms of like collaborations and shits.

So I think I think it changed both how sort of, you know, our sphere views traditional media and definitely how traditional media views our sphere, which I think I was talking to. I don't remember if it was you or Eddie at some point about you'd kind of had like a rocky relationship with traditional media. We had talked about sort of how hard it is to get your foot in the door and get taken seriously is like a.

influencer on YouTube. Right. Um, and now I feel like it's almost been flip flopped a little right with the pandemic and where people's engagement is. Yeah, definitely. You know, and especially from an individual perspective, it's like, if you are the person that's accustomed to being on front in front of the screen, if you're used to showing up and getting, you know, having a fucking makeup chair and, and, and craft services and shit, and just hopping in front of the camera and doing your a baby, don't touch that dial. Everybody loves rain. We'll be right back

kind of shit you know like you don't realize like oh fuck when I can't do that I have to like buy a what is a Elgato what the fuck is Streamline that's fucking cat in Spanish what the heck's going on here I got one of those he don't stream Zelda I remember seeing a couple weeks ago Snoop Dogg got really pissed at his game of Madden and he just goes fuck this and he walks away

Yeah, he just leaves it open. And then hours later, the dude walks back. He walks back and he's like, I saw this. Oh, shit. You know, and you know why? I don't even know the guy and I know the answer is because I've seen him on fucking Howard Stern saying, yeah, I got a dude that rolls blunts for me and he's on payroll. Do you think that guy's accustomed to shutting down stream labs and shit? No, he doesn't.

know how that shit works he's saying put me in the chair place okay put the controller in my hand okay madden mode activate you know like that's how he works i've also seen nothing wrong i've seen like several videos of him just like going after ea too whenever the servers are down it's just like he's just like hey ea specifically the whole company this is soup dog

Fuck you and fuck your servers. I'm pissed. He's always behind the screen taking notes, yeah. He's always like your uncle in his fucking Toyota Tacoma, too, like looking down at the screen like, yeah, you need to fix your fucking servers right fucking now. He's just grumbling low angle shit like...

I love that kind of stuff, but oh yeah. So do you think that, you know, with all of this like media crossing each other, do you think that like the pandemic was sort of like maybe a little bit of a little bit of the kindling, a little bit of a fire start, a little bit of match on the gas for maybe like a larger kind of movement of like all of these lines being blurred to the point where it's just like anyone can be anything as long as you have a following kind of situation? Yeah.

I mean, I would hope so. Or is it just going to stand back? I don't know. I mean, that's a good point, too. Well, because Addison Rae is going to be in the She's All That remake. Really? Yeah. Jesus Christ. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but I'm sure it wasn't because I didn't get the gig. But that is hilarious, by the way, and that's a great opportunity for her. But I got an audition for the remake of...

Uh, the fucking, what's the show? I didn't watch it at the time. It's on Nickelodeon. It was a sketch show. Um, it had the, the, the orange guy with that red text in his mouth. What the fuck is that? Oh no. Dude, what am I talking about? I'm giving you such fucking scant details. The orange guy? It's like, it was like a sketch show. Is it all that? It's all that. All, all that?

Does that sound familiar? Charlie, you on that? Is that what that shit is? I don't know, but I'm glad you didn't get it because Addison Rae would kill that role. She just fucking start dancing. Fuck. I might be all that. That's why it triggered it. 1994 sketch comedy. Yeah. It had little to do with the story. And now I'm an old man getting hung up on, was it April? Or was it May? I think it was April because, you know, but anyway, like I had an audition for those and I absolutely didn't get it. Um,

But I didn't see a correlation in traditional media like auditions coming through for me personally. That's one single story. But I would – perhaps it's wishful thinking. I would hope that these worlds blend together and I do think that there is an absolute symbiosis between people in traditional media and new media and shit. But I like to think that it's really good for people like us too. I feel like it's – I completely agree. It's an easier environment to be like, hey, I've –

proven that I'm the mover and the shaker for everything I'm doing over here, you know, maybe give me a show, you know, or like maybe fucking buy a little like thing I'm writing or something like that. I'll punch up a script, you know, like hit me up, stuff like that. You know, like I, I just feel like that, like this helped facilitate that connection a little bit better. And I would hope that it comes to fruition. Right. But I think though a bit of a caveat to like getting some sort of deal done

or show or whatever with one of these big companies is that if you prove that you're a mover and that you've got the knowledge to make things like that, you've got to, if you were to get involved, I feel like,

And maybe this is just me just thinking I know better or some bullshit. But like, I feel like if a content creator gets involved, then they should definitely be like involved. Because I feel a lot of times I feel like companies kind of fall behind and make stuff that's super unrelatable. And like people don't understand. And they just expect that as long as you slap a because a lot of times I feel like they equate social media influencers, just celebrities. And if you just slap a name on something, then that immediately makes it available and good.

I completely agree. It's...

I think that's the problem right now is it's like there's a lot of like kind of old guard people in traditional media that it's just like you got to wait for them to get flushed out of the system to really give – have a newer batch of people to fully give the reins to like – Nice way to say it. You know what I mean? Yeah, not like – no, you don't get to die, you know, but maybe go to fucking Cabo on the weekend instead of showing up at the offices. You know what I'm saying? Like just get out of here. I don't know. Like it feels like right now – I mean I've certainly seen that firsthand, you know, like a number of times where it's just like maybe somebody hits you up.

And it seems like an interesting connection. You come in and they're just like, yeah, do you want to – you could probably post this. Like you guys, they like stuff. You could post something like that. And it's just like they either just want to do promotion or something or they just want to stick you in something. And it's like, well, no, like I want to do something. And I feel like if you can extend some trust to me, I've obviously established that I can kind of cultivate a following and –

at least do the work myself, you know, like, yeah, you, the whole production team essentially is what, is what we do. We do everything. Yeah. So, I mean, I, I don't know. So I'm, I'm seeing, I feel like that's even been changing in the last two years. Like more people are willing to meet in the middle and trust and stuff. And honestly, like,

Comedy Central is a huge example for me. Like they started reaching out to individual creators on like YouTube and Instagram and stuff. And they picked a fantastic group of people that made sense that they weren't just getting like, oh, who's big sort by top 50 channels, pick 10 of them. You know, like they actually cut into like who's being featured on Reddit and like who's getting Twitter action and stuff like that. And,

And, like, that's an example of a company that seemed to be pivoting in, like, a smarter direction like that. But, like, I feel like it's changing is what I'm trying to say. I'm giving you too long of fucking answers here, but that's what I'm thinking. You're the guest on the show, man. You're allowed to do that. It's funny with Comedy Central as well because I don't know...

I don't know how well Comedy Central is doing right now as well. I'm not sure if it's been on the up and up or...

genuinely some of the best people I've met personally and professionally. That's awesome. But the problem is right now, I think with a lot of these people's is it's not fucking cost effective, you know? Right. Because the, you understand like views fluctuate like crazy online, you know? And if, and if your overhead is so insane on so many shoots and stuff, it's, you're just pissing money down the fucking drain. And I just feel like that's got killed. Yeah.

Exactly, dude. I feel like that's what's kind of catching up with him. So, and again, that's not me fucking hedging my bets, but I don't think that, like, I want to speak very highly of the individuals over there, but from a corporate perspective, I just can't see it being viable with how much fucking overhead there is with some of the shit. So, I don't know what the future of them or anybody else is, but that's the problem. It's like, give the reins and give the fucking trust to these individuals. And that's the reason

the reason I ask as well right is because if something like Comedy Central were to be on the up and up just really hard I think that a lot of traditional media would be like oh shit so it's unfortunate it's fluctuating so much because I really think what people do need is like you know the old rats is a really good example of this working right of people being given the reins for something on traditional media and having it working

In order for them to even start to justify something like this. And I also think that one of the issues that Comedy Central occasionally has, a lot of these channels occasionally have where they have that huge amount of money that they spend on stuff, is that it also doesn't really suit...

um, like YouTubes or what the audience is looking for when they go on YouTube. I think that like, and I think that you specifically Gus with your channel, you kind of hit in this zone that I think has maybe, maybe in turn helped you become so successful where your, your, your sketches, like the, the ideas are really, really solid and you, and you go after the idea more so than like making it like a whole film set. Like you, you go out there and it's like more of like a,

know what would the what would people call it share your inner machinations with what is the creative process of gus johnson well i mean i mean that's essentially it is it's like it's the joke first every single time and that should supersede everything and if there's an obstacle in your way especially depending on the venue that you're putting it out in i'm making an internet video so if i think it is an idea is funny i'm never going to get hung up on the budget on a

prop on a piece of gear or something, I will find a workaround for it so I can get it out quicker. And nine times out of 10, that's the better idea, you know, because it's more funny or charming or homegrown and shit. And I feel like if you lead in with that principle, with those principles, you have a better final product of just like trying to make some clean, funny shit, right. You know, and to tie it back to comedy central again, not that I, and again, I really don't feel as this guy, he's got a, what does he got a hard arm for comedy centrals?

Was he a television man? Was he on the big two? Was he one of the suits? Yeah, you know. But, I mean, like, the thing is I...

When Comedy Central did their creator stuff and they started bringing in people like myself and Trevor Wallace and Caleb City and stuff, you know, in person to shoot in their New York offices and stuff. Like we'd go out and we'd shoot sketches that were fucking hilarious. Right. But they'd be all day sketches booked in downtown Manhattan at a fucking Airbnb. Dude. There'd be three PAs getting two meals worth of fucking food for 15 people, you know? And I'm like...

I could shoot this myself in my room, you know, like the script is great. You've done 90% of the leg work and it still looks good, but even like you could shoot it with the fucking skeleton crew, you know, and I don't, we don't need to be doing 10 takes of everything. Like, and again, it's like, I'm happy to be here. I'm,

absolutely flattered everybody's wonderful I don't mind doing 15 takes of everything until the day's done because you're paying me to be here and I'm in New York City and I'm working with fantastic people and stuff like no complaints on my end but it stresses me out vicariously through them because I'm like dude I see money being fucking billed

burned right now yeah he's like what are you doing you know so just fucking give Gus the camera he'll film the whole thing and that's the thing that I found like as I worked with them further and I had more sketches released outside of the week and stuff like they were they instantly just fully let me be like okay what are you gonna shoot hey this is the one sentence elevator pitch of that okay

Send it in, you know, and I just go make it and give it to them. And I'm like, if like if more people would follow that, like really smart, like lead that they decided to do, it's like I feel like you have a lot more success over the board. That is really interesting. Everyone's pissing away overhead, too, because I remember actually seeing those specific ones that you filmed inside of your your your old apartment. Like, yeah. And I was like, this is really cool. I remember I do remember actually having that thought. I was like, oh, this is really cool. They just straight up like us do whatever the fuck you want.

But that was it. Yeah. One of the questions I have is like, what's the most that you've ever spent on making a sketch? How much like in terms of monetary?

Well, the funny – there's such a huge disparity because the most – I'll tell you what. The second most I ever spent on a sketch was Mbiamba Jones, truthfully now. And it was exclusively because – You know why? I know. I have not seen the video, but I can imagine what Mbiamba –

Bones is. The blockbuster phenomenon of MBM with Jones with a budget of $7 billion. You're not overthinking it, Schlatt. I just play Indiana Jones as if he were a child that didn't communicate verbally but was kind of pouty and indignant about wanting to participate.

And there was a faceless character, my brother behind the camera, that was trying to coax and like soothe me into doing the things like that were staples in the movie. You know, like, careful, you don't like the snakes. You know, and it was just the shaking. How did you even think of that idea? Like, was that a right original character? Was that like, because I imagine that character of M.B. Amba Jones was just like,

a bit you did in the living room at some point. Or did you open the Lost Ark and it came to you? Yeah, that was... Exactly. It shot up in my brain. No, I... Honestly, the honest answer, and this is such a fucking stupid answer, is I got just...

mega drunk like one night and I just and I like mispronounced like Indiana Jones and I just like it was so funny for me and Sven my brother like we just kept saying like Imbiampa Jones and I woke up and it seriously was I woke up and I looked at my draft sheet that I write all my ideas in and

And I just woke up the next morning because I check it because 90% of the videos I write down are like right as I'm about to pass out at the end of the night as I've been like puffing and stuffing or whatever. And I was just like, that's a good idea. And I'll just like look at it the next day and be like, oh, OK. That's pretty good. So I woke up and I was just like –

And then I was like, all right, that sounds like a good one. So then we just, you know, we went and we shot the damn thing. But the only reason that cost so much is because, again, I was so impatient. I just wanted to film that thing. And I was just like, let's just fuck around and see what we get.

And the only place we could find the costume was on a fucking Hollywood Boulevard costume shop where it was like 60 bucks for the jacket and 40 for the whip and 50 for the hat. And it's a fucking shitty nylon felt hat and stuff, you know, but yeah,

So that's the only reason. So I think that was like close to 200 bucks and it was just cause I got it at a fucking tourist trap shop on Hollywood Boulevard. And, but that's the most expensive one. The second most expensive one, I mean, and the most expensive video I ever made was the, was the commentary video I did about the office a year ago. Uh, and that's just because I found that the, that, uh, Leslie David Baker, the dude that played Stanley on the office, um,

He's doing an unofficially unsanctioned, totally probably not cool fucking NBC Universal spin off of his character, Stanley, called Uncle Stan, and he crowdfunded it. And it was, you know, I did a commentary video about it, but they had an egregious list of reward tiers that just were

way overstepping in terms of like personal security and privacy and shit and anyone for $10,000 you could sit in the writers room affect the script be credited as a writer and you would get to be able to perform any original talent you want in the show fucking anything and you'd be like

In the show. So I paid $10,000 and I bought that reward tier. So I'm going to – in the next month or two maybe we might even start filming. But I'm going to be in the unofficial like bootleg knockoff fucking office. Freaking awesome, dude. You're going to be – so wait. Have you already been in the writer's room? Have you already done that? No, I haven't. Well, because it's like – the thing is so fucking weird because it's just Leslie and –

some business partner that has like no public credits in terms of film production for what I've been able to find so it's him and this guy who I'm not saying or assuming anything you know I hope this isn't some older actor getting taken advantage of from some guy trying to make a fucking quick buck on a name or something I don't know you know perhaps it's a cohesive thing from what I've seen so far it does not seem like a cohesive vision or story or structure that's where you step in that's where I come in is your goal

Betterment or sabotage? Well, truthfully...

And I say this absolutely, you know, as I completely, if, should the- Stanley listens. Should they, if Stanley listens, yes. Should they allow it, I intend to fully film and document everything. And I'm being straight up, like, I am not going in to be a saboteur one bit because I'm in a position right now, like, just frankly speaking, and maybe it's a little meta stepping back, I can't lose in this position from a content perspective. You know what I mean? You can't. You really can't.

Because – and truthfully, I'm not going to try to agitate anything. I'm going in completely neutrally and I just want to document the process because when I say I can't lose, it's – here's the thing. As if it's a disaster and if people are like really rude and it's terrible, goldmine. Goldmine, sure. I just say honestly I don't have to inflate anything. And if it goes wonderful and people are sweet and I think it might have a chance, goldmine. Goldmine. It's great either way. Then it's an underdog story. Dude, it's –

It's great because that reminds me of when Marriott Hotels lost power. I moved into Texas the day of the snowstorm. Oh, man. And so my house was out of power when I moved. And-

I rented with Marriott, you know, and I drive over to the hotel. I called them and I was like, Hey, you know, do you have power? And they said, yes. So I booked, drove over. They didn't have power. So I couldn't stay there. I went up staying with a friend and then I, they, I called them and I'm like, Hey, I couldn't stay there. We didn't have power. Can I get a refund? And they said, no. And I tell, and I tell my, my parents this in a fit of rage. And they're like, well,

Well, you just have to keep calling him. You have to harass Marriott to get your money back. And I'm like, no, I don't because this is now content for me. I don't care about the money. I don't care that I wasted a couple hundred dollars and they didn't give it back because now I can put it in a video and buy the domain fuckyoumariott.com and redirect it to pornhub.com slash gay.

And then tell Marriott employees to go there. That's extraordinarily granular. You know? That's fantastic. That's just the thing, too, is it's like...

It's always a good situation from like a commentary content perspective when you don't have to like create any problems. And I just came in here and it's like I didn't instigate anything. You know, like you put this stuff up here and I'm checking it out. And even in my like comment, the initial commentary video where I have a little like sneak at the end, you know, I don't say whether or not I bought it. And then it's an after credit scene or whatever. And I'm like, should I buy it? Oh, voice for the camera. Don't do it.

Click. Video ends, you know, where it's like I clearly bought the one of two like reward tiers and stuff. Right. Like I just looked at it kind of like obviously there's kind of an air of I'm sort of clowning on like the post office projects of the people on the office. That was the center of the video and this was kind of the capstone of it was this thing, was this spinoff thing. But truthfully, again, it's like I'm going in there and I will just be – I'm not going to be a dick. Like I'm going to be complete – I'm going to kill him with kindness. Yeah.

Yeah, because it would be it would be definitely an issue. Like if you went in there and you like tried to like sabotage because that that Leslie is like that is such a beloved character. And I feel like so many people would be have eyes on that would definitely associate that as like you like shitting on the. And I'm sure that person is like totally harmless and is just trying to do something. So, like, no, I think you have a very, very good perspective on it.

Well, that's the thing is I've recognized that I don't need to apply pressure in any regards to get –

the same result of entertaining outcome? Is it just going to be interesting? I think people want to know what is this unofficially sanctioned, unlicensed office spinoff project? Like, what does it look like? Where did they film? By the way, they fucking doxed themselves on the filming location. They put the address of the public building. Uh-oh. So, uh-oh, oopies, you know. Ha-ha, funny poopy. But I don't know. Like, that's... Again, it was rife with problems. So I just kind of went over the initial Kickstarter thing in the first video, but...

Anyway, yeah, I don't need to be a dick and I don't want to be a dick. And then I look for any longer form video stuff. When I do like commentary video shit, I'm not looking to fucking punch down on somebody. You know, like I want to just either look at something goofy or take a shot at somebody that's in a position of power and be like, it's kind of fucked up. You know, like Wendy Williams or Steve Harvey, Chris Brown, whatever it is. But yeah, anyway, that's definitely something that...

I think the new age of like commentary requires like it either has to be like I enjoy doing the story stuff. Whenever I do talk about something else, though, I definitely have realized over the years that it needs to be either someone that is just so absolutely in the wrong that there is no way that it could be like conceived as like a bad thing that you're talking about it.

Or like if it's something that you want to elevate and talk about because it's funny, you got to really like avoid making it seem like you're like sending people to like go hate on that person. Because I had an issue with Peter Cain. I don't know if you know Peter Cain dog training. He's like this guy. He's this guy who lives in a...

He lives in upstate New York and he's a dog trainer, but at the same time he does these really surreal, like you're not sure if it's satire or not. I honestly... Bigfoot visits him. Yeah. He makes videos saying like, I had like female Bigfoot forced me to have sex as a video title. And like another one of like, he saw the dog man and then it'll be like very clearly like in the background. It's like...

It's like a puppet that like he, I think he builds like creepy homemade puppets that are like to, I don't, I don't even know. Cause I, cause I don't know how much of it is like he's making up or if he's just whatever the case, whatever his channel is really interesting. Cause it's just like a, just a collection of all these things. So I made a video talking about it, but my, uh,

Um, and it was more of a celebratory sort of video where I'm like, this guy is ridiculous. I don't know if he's joking or not, but let's just talk about this and let's look at these videos and I'll crack a couple of jokes. Um, no ill will intended, but I made the mistake of wanting to, and not fully understanding how much of an audience I had. So at the time I wanted to get an interview with the guy. So I said, Hey guys, go to his channel and say, uh,

Ted, give us an interview. It was a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge mistake because that guy has made like three videos about me just like

shitting on me like he'll make videos just talking about anyone with bigfoot on one and he actually hasn't even seen my video because he claims that he doesn't watch videos that are over 1 million or under 1 million subscribers like people who post videos about him so he hasn't seen my video but he thinks that i hated on him and then all the people who watch his channel are like man this guy's like so i'll get on that video i'll get people were saying like

Leave Pete alone. He's just trying to do his thing, and you're a bastard. And I'm like, well, I love Pete. You and Bigfoot. I love this guy. Both of you. This guy is so freaking awesome. He's just, like, doing his own thing. He's just... And he's also the absolute, like, epitome of, like...

The ridiculousness that happens in upstate New York, because, you know, I went to school in Ithaca and there's like, you know, you've got the college students and then you've got the Ithaca townies. And it's just like there's just so much like kooky, wild stuff that happens in upstate New York that just and like Pete is just such a representation of that. So but yeah, I mean, in the vein of like, you know, doing commentary stuff, you know, it's I think I definitely know from firsthand. It's very important to make sure you're not doing that kind of stuff.

Well, that's just the thing too is it's like sometimes, at least for me personally, you know, I just – other people have their own set of filters that they put a thing or a topic or a person through to be like, hey, do I make a video on this? But for me personally, like it's two things that stop me from like doing a video on a guy or on a video or on a thing or whatever. And first of all, it's like recognizing, hey –

Do I have anything to gain from this? You know, like, do I have other options and shit? You know, is this worth my time? Do I feel like I'm bringing something new to the table? And then secondly, it's just like, am I fucking kicking the bee's nest on some fucking whack job right now? You know, like, like truthfully, from just a self-preservation point, like it some like, for example, honestly, this last summer, it was a.

I think it was July or August or so. And I did a video. I fully shot it. And then with my longer videos this last year, I've started working with my buddy Curtis Robert that I've known for many years, shot lots of video stuff for him. And he's done a lot of the editing job stuff for me. So Curtis fully edited it.

And it was this big commentary video on vigilante superheroes. Because I did one on a dude two years back named Troy Hurtubise, who was a Canadian inventor that invented the bear-proof suit shit so that you could survive a fucking bear attack. And I came at that video with the angle of like,

Almost in a similar sense of like, look at this fucking big dick guy. How cool is this dude? You know, where it's just like, you're not like, look at this fucking idiot. It's just like, I love how original this guy is. Obviously, you can't play that full card. Like, you understand that there's some amount of ridicule there. But like, still not being a dick to him, like putting him in a good light and stuff. But I did, it was similar to that. I did one and the main focus of the video was this dude. I won't say his name, but...

It was, like, clearly just, like, a small town kind of very kick-ass kind of figure. If you've seen that film, you know? Like, underground shit. And then, like, I just... I looked at it and stuff. And, like, I was... And he had, like, a full website with a bunch of links and shit. And I just...

I didn't address it in the video and stuff, but you got the sense that this guy was like mega deep, like alt-righty kind of shit. And I just... And it just happened to have... It happened at a time... The nail in the coffin for me was right before... Like, it was when the Kenosha shit happened. And I don't want to put too many...

landmine fucking auto caption like bombs in your fucking episode but it was like right after the major like pew pew shooting shit you know I don't know why pew pew and then said shooting I still said that but you know what I mean I was just like you know what I don't know pew pew pew pew and also and and

I laugh at the situation, not the context. Anyway, I ultimately decided I'm just not going to fucking put it out, you know, because whether or not I think that it's like, oh, I as an artist shouldn't do that, like,

More so for me personally was even just like, I don't need to do this. I can make a different video. I can find a different subject. And if there's even a 5% chance that I put a video on this person, I shine a spotlight on them. And then I got some fucking maniac that I got to deal with for three fucking years. I just don't have to deal with that fucking shit. You know, I'll do a small town reviews or something. I don't want to kick the bees nest this week, you know, and that factors in as shit sometimes. And that's one of the things that I actually had.

thought about that I wanted to talk about with you because one of the things I noticed about you, Gus, and also like Eddie, but also I think your sphere in general, but I've gotten a vibe a lot from you, Gus, is that in the way that you carry yourself online, you are a very, very

and I've said this to Eddie before because I believe it about both of you, but you have a very high sense of honor with the way that you conduct yourself online. And I think that what you're saying here... I'm flattered. I mean, I think that the way you're talking about it now, I mean, even...

For instance, like your 1 million subscriber video. Gus did a video when he hit 1 million subscribers where he literally went through and specifically thanked individual people. Oh, I remember that. For their part that they played and like his...

leading up to that moment. And I think that that's a very, very good example of like, I don't know, just this like vibe of just, it's very, very wholesome. The vibe that you bring online at the same time that you're making like these crazy sketches and stuff like that. So I don't know props to you for that. I suppose. I don't know. I don't, I don't know how you would possibly respond to that, but I was just the old me. Well, yes. Thank you. I'm very nice. Yeah. Say more. I'm almost there. No. Um, uh,

I do really appreciate that, though. I do a bad job at receiving any form of praise, so I do appreciate that. Thank you. I mean, really, just to put it bluntly, my whole outlook on things, and it ties into the 1 million thanks video, is just like, I...

Really, objectively, even if I wasn't involved, anybody that gets to the position that they are in that has a platform could directly point to dozens of fail points back along the path of like this person wasn't there for me. If I didn't have this fucking windfall, if I didn't have this to fall back on, if I didn't have this opportunity, this privilege or this advantage for something that popped up, then this could have single handedly fucked me.

So really the idea that anybody with a platform could have any sense of superiority over anything or feel that they fucking deserve anything is so asinine to me. And I want to be quick to fucking call it out and then recognize that it's like, Hey, you know, I don't feel like I need to be like cat of nine tails and myself of like, I am not worthy, you know, but I, at the same time, not try to fucking pull rank and think I'm better than anybody. And I want to give credit where credit's due and thank people and praise people if they've directly helped me or if they've just,

helped whatever so that was just kind of my thought process with that but hell yeah i don't know how we got here but i i agree with that there's groceries out there oh hell yeah a little a little uh grocery run never hurt nobody hold on before the podcast continues please allow us to fulfill our contractual obligations

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It's a bit, you're, you're, you like snacks. Yeah. I've been known as snacks. So here's a question for you. So uncomfortable with that segue. Yeah. You like snacks? If you had to choose between these two snacks, which would you choose? Frozen Charleston chews or ranch corn nuts? How the fuck did you know either of those? Did you ask Ian Kung about this?

I mean, you're Gus Johnson. We got to know this information. We told you we would have it in deep before this. I had both of those this week. What the fuck? I literally, I have not had it frozen. You had to talk to Ian Kong. I'm going to fucking out your sources. Nice job fucking Piers Morgan hacking people's cell phones, bitch. Don't give me that shit. Who knows who he talked to? Don't give me that shit. All right. Yes. I haven't had it frozen, Charles, in two and three years. This last week I went to write it and I was like, oh, they're 85 cents. I'm going to get two boxes. I put them in the freezer and I ate them up.

I would have to pick frozen Charleston chews over the ranch corn nuts because there's a bit of a social baggage that comes with ranch corn nuts being that they fucking reek. So if you eat those puppies... I've never heard of them. Dude, it's... I don't know what either of these things... These are just words strung together to me. I got nothing to associate with them. You know the candy Charleston chews? It's like, uh, they're kind of like, um,

Milk nougat. It's nougat. It's nougat and chocolate. That's it. And you just put them in the fridge. You have to eat them cold. Yeah. You do. You have to eat them cold. You put them in the fridge or the freezer. You bite into them. It's so delicious. Are they crunchy when cold or they still got the- No, no. It's weird. I mean, you have to break through the shell, but then it's soft and nougaty. It's like if you moved meringue up three notches on the Ma's hardness scale, that's the consistency of a fucking frozen Charleston 2. That is so true. App.

and it's just a little light chocolate covering. So it's like you bite into it and it goes...

And then it's like Laffy Taffy for the rest of it. It's a beautiful experience. Texturally, beautiful. But I would do the other way. What the fuck is a ranch corn nut? Okay, so corn nuts are like a – Now defend this. Yeah, this is no real defense. It's like a kernel of corn that's been, I don't know, fucking king-tutted, mummified. It's really dried out and shit. It's very crunchy. And then it's just the ranch flavor of it. So there's a slight ranch Dorito-y flavor on top of this crunchy corn kernel. Okay.

They take corn. You can eat corn kernels? Yeah, you can. It's like, I don't know if it's a real one. They just fuck it up? It's like a raw corn kernel. Like a corn kernel.

They just pull it out and beat the shit out of it? They do. They just berate it. Yeah, exactly. That's savagery. Yeah, it's a lot. That's why he chose the Charleston Chews, because he didn't want to go the savagery route. Where are you from, Gus? Where the fuck are you from that that is a thing? Small Town, Wisconsin. He's from Small Town, Wisconsin. We make our own fun.

Yeah, exactly. We make our own ranch corn nuts. Gus, do you have any good stories from Wisconsin?

What's your craziest story from Wisconsin? Craziest story from Wisconsin? Well, you know what I miss? I miss going back home and shooting stuff outside, literally and figuratively shooting stuff outside in the sense that a lot of the props that we do for video stuff is based around a high-powered explosive called Tannerite. I don't know if you're familiar with that.

I've heard of Tannerite, but I feel like in both the places that I've lived, that being Massachusetts and California, I'm pretty sure it's illegal. Pretty regulated substance. For comedians and arsonists, can you explain sort of what that is? Sure. So Tannerite, and I do not endorse this at all.

But I use it all the time. I do use it all the time. And can I just say it performs. But if you've seen like the video that like Sven and I did, we did a Mythbusters sketch this last summer where a toilet blew up at the end or I personally did a sketch where I shot – like I was doing how companies do eco-friendly commercials or whatever and at the end of the sketch, I shot –

a deer. It was just a fucking decoy, but it fully exploded. Tannerite is a ridiculously cheap... I shouldn't be fucking talking it up. It's so easy to get. It's like, you can go into like a... And it's so funny! Speaking of, let's also talk about...

Anyway, you can get it at like a fleet farm or something, which is kind of like the farmer's Midwest equivalent of like a Lowe's or a Home Depot or something. Like farm equipment, hunting gear, shit like that. You can walk in there and it's extremely cheap. And it looks like if you took a bunch of – a brick of styrofoam and separated all the little white dots and then there's black powder. So there's a little –

you know, it comes in a cup, maybe like that. You take out the little black powder, you pour it in there, you shake it up and then it's explosive. And the only way you can detonate it, it sounds like I'm doing a manifesto. I'm sorry. Good luck on the fucking ads on this one, boys. Uh, the only way you can get it. Okay, good.

is shooting it with a high power rifle of at least 2000 feet per second. So you can't plug it with a 22. So anyway, you know, we have acres and acres of, of farm and field land back home in Wisconsin. Cause I'm in a town of a thousand people. So we'll constantly use this to conduct super cheap, really safe at a distance explosions for videos. Um,

So I miss doing that. You know, you'd shake up one of these, you could put it in a Weber grill and it'd be like somebody tore the grill apart. Like it was paper, you know, like a quarter of a pound. So like, we'll go put it in a toilet and, and then do some like match frame cut or whatever. When like Sven goes to hit the flush button and it explodes or something like that.

Right. That's my Wisconsin memory I miss. So and you were talking about how you also did a bit where you like fake shot a deer, but you also, you know, you would do actual like hunting with your family because of your state's herd control program. Is that correct? Gus Johnson?

Sure, absolutely. And I'm somebody too where it's like, you know, I'm a big deer hunter and truthfully, this is not me trying to be Mr. Devil's advocate fence stuff. If anybody has a problem with hunting shit, I am not one of those big gun banging fucking fuck you kind of guy. I'm

I'm just like, totally, totally understand. You know, my, my family goes out and we are not game hunters too. We, we harvest swamp bucks and we, we get it locally processed and we, we use the deer, donate the hides, you know, and, and eat them and stuff and donate the access to a local food pantry and,

So I'm very at peace with our ethical consumption of that. But at the same time, if people have a problem with that, it's like, I get it. I'm not looking to ruffle anybody's feathers. I don't give a fuck. I hate it in any direction if somebody's trying to cram a fucking ideology down my goddamn throat. But if you dare come after the Johnson way of killing deer with Tannerite, then get the hell out of here. Thanks, Theo. For the time, the family... I actually...

You guys want to know how to make napalm? You know, I got to... So, gasolines. You just need gasoline and styrofoam, you know? So, Gus. Yes. For our audio listeners, by the way, love you to death. Gus has a sort of a whole situation behind him. It's a sparkling purple bonanza. It's glorious.

But what's going on here? Is this part of your stream room potentially? Are those explosives too? They're not. Non-combustible fairy lights from Amazon, $12.99 plus prime shipping. So I wanted to do kind of a Skyrim-esque room over here.

Uh, it's not come to full fruition yet, but I wanted to have a little bit of that Winstead Manor, or Manor Planter action going on back there. And I wanted to have some alchemy ingredients. So you chuckle sandwich boys are looking at my shitty ass wide angle thing right now. But if you get a little more granular, you'll see that there's some fake Nern root and like more of Tampanella. Oh, okay. That's cool. I just got some like, uh, black light, uh, fairy lights off of Amazon and stuff. And then I got a bunch of bioluminescent fish tank, uh,

Plants that look gross. Is the nerd route gonna fuck with the podcast audio? Yeah, it's terrible. It's a gamer joke for you out there. And he's like, what's going on, guys?

You know, it's like, but no, so I got that going on. And then I got the individual unit of a fireplace thing that Sabrina's mom got her. And I was like, I'm gonna be real with you. This is made out of particle board. This shit fucking sucks. There's missing three pilot holes. We're never going to build it. So I just took the unit out and I put it on that table that I found up by a dumpster. And a Skyrim is the result.

Isn't Skyrim older than most of our fans? Yeah, probably. What's with the interest in Skyrim all of a sudden? Dude, I mean, I just – it's reigniting more than anything. That's been such a cyclical game for me where it's like at least every six months I will just get lost in that for minimum a week, you know?

It just hit at the right time for me. I didn't have a console when I was a kid, and then when I was in high school, I won a PS3 out of one of those Stacker arcade machines. Really? What? You won one of those? You got a fucking PS3 from Stacker? It's possible? I've won the grand prize on Stacker four times now, I believe. Oh!

Oh, fuck. So, dude. I remember when we were in L.A. Oh, my God. We went to the fucking Dave and Buster's and we watched Gus just do the stacker machine. And he killed it, too. That's it. You can get to the end 70% of the time, truthfully, like if you just learn the game and it really just is like. It's putting it to the right, right?

Exactly. Well, it's actually a little bit like center left is kind of beneficial because that way you don't want to rely on the corner. People try to do it. They think that they have double the time if they get it in a corner slot, but it's prone to missing more. Whereas it's kind of left to center, then at least you can have it left to center, right to center. It gives you more time on the comeback to truthfully time it and gauge the trajectory of it. But really, it's a simple game in effect, but

each individual stacker machine is programmed to only pay out the top prize. If there's like, you know, base price plus X percent of whatever the most expensive prize is in there. And you can set that as the fucking arcade owner or whatever. So,

I encourage you at home if you see a stacker machine with cheaper grand prizes in there, put five bucks in. Roll the fucking dice. Gamble it up. I encourage that. There's a high chance that you'll win it. So anyway, I won one of those things because you can get to the top grand prize thing almost every single time and it's just a matter – like you can literally see the bullshit in front of your very eyes of like – Yeah. I definitely stopped it. It just skipped. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

So you can do that, but I won one in high school, and I got a PS3, and it came with Assassin's Creed 3, and I got Bioshock and Skyrim. And that was like... So I went from having nothing to like...

having it all. Three mega games right there. So I just, you know, if you had one game, wouldn't you love that game to death? You know, I'd like, that was one of my first games. Especially if you're growing up with that. Exactly. So I just kept playing that over the years and I've been revisiting it lately and, you know, it's the pandemic and I want shit that feels nostalgic and safe and I can come in here and turn off the lights and,

you know, get a little unsober and listen to some Mac Miller, good news and just go, all right, it's pretty cool. Perfect one to come back to. That's funny. You say that song specifically Mac Miller, good news. I've been listening to that a lot lately. Oh yeah, dude. That's, that's a fucking anthem this last year. That's a good one. Are you a, are you a, uh, are you a big music guy, Gus?

I love music. Yeah. That's my piano over there. We did some research, Gus. It turns out you open Spotify sometimes. What do you think of Wicca Faze Springs Eternal?

Damn. You're just fucking vying for Sean Evans' job, aren't you? Trying to get into some fucking chuckle sandwich compilation times Ted Slatt. Charlie stumped the guest with good question. Tell us about it. We have to know. We have to know. I love me some Wicca Faze Springs Eternal. Fucking Wicca Faze Task Force. Let's go. Got to have me some Just One Thing.

And then, of course, one of the greatest anthems ever, Absolute in Doubt with Wicca and Peep. What a blending of their styles to hit you with a fucking powerhouse song. What type of music is that? What's the sound that is behind that sort of stuff? Oh, man. It's kind of like SoundCloud Xan grunge trap.

yeah ah yes of course put on the zan grunge trap and you're a big fan of that like sort of trap sound like little peep and stuff like that i mean i got little peep lighters and fucking lps everywhere i don't know i just i love little peep and i found a bunch of cool artists as offshoots of him so that's been pretty fucking big for me in the last three years yeah

I probably haven't had a little peep in like five years. You can get in there again. Easter's coming up, Charlie. Exactly. That's true. That's true. Hey, is this episode coming out on Easter Sunday?

Oh my God. Is it? Or the day before. Gus has risen. Hallelujah. Let's go. I think it's the day before. But go to church tomorrow, Christians. The Pope is right behind Schlatt right now for our audio listeners. Love you to death. And he is staring him down right now. It's actually law. We've hidden seven eggs in this podcast.

Christians have to go to church on Easter or they go to hell. That's true. You only have to go twice a year, Easter and Christmas. You can do that. No, no, no, no. You don't even have to go Christmas. Oh, that's easy. You have to go Easter once a year. Because that's when he was born. Yeah. So if they're listening to this podcast, they're already halfway there. You got to go. You got to go. So Gus, what is the...

What is the future spell for Gus Johnson? I mean, like, what is there like, is there anything that like in the future, like post quarantine that you're really, really excited about that like is, I mean, obviously we're all excited to see everyone, but like in terms of like what you do, like, is there, is there, are you trying to.

I mean, what's next, man? Anything big in the pipeline, yeah. Yeah, man. Well, I'm beyond the stuff that I've kind of maintained or initiated this last year online. I am hopefully within the next couple months moving into more of a formal pitch process with a television show that I'd love to find a home for. Oh, exciting.

I have made a couple of cool partnerships with people I can't say yet, and I hate when people do that, so you can call me a douchebag in the comments. I can't really say. I'll turn you off podcast. But I've made some cool connections. I'm trying to get some more traditional media stuff going in the terms of like a screenplay I'm trying to shop around and then perhaps hopefully try to get some more formal acting gigs places if I could do that on the side, and it's nice to not have to rely on that.

Hey, Gus. What's up? I might have something for you in terms of that in the future. This guy. Ted is an esteemed film director. This guy. I'll turn it over to Ted. I've already talked about this publicly, so it's not even a thing, but there are

There was this film that I was going to make for my senior thesis equivalent. And what I was thinking about doing is at some point, you know, I've got some, you know, spare money lying around after, you know, doing better on YouTube. So I was thinking, oh, hey, maybe I might as well do what would have been this film. I'll send you the script. Let me know what you think about it. Cool. I'll take a peek. Yeah. Yeah.

Did I ever tell you guys I won a Young Filmmakers Award for the thesis film I did? No, you didn't. There's no way you're better than me, you little bastard. I did, I did. It's true, it's true. I'm the official film...

Wait, what's the context of that, Charlie? I'm trying to... Well, I'm going to look it up right now because I'm worried about... You won an award for corn? I did do corn as a class project. I'll speak about it loosely because it's got the college name attached to it. But basically, I worked with two other students in my graduating class and we looked at...

like pieces of, of sheet music that were really old, like in, in our, in our town. Um, and that sort of had been like very indicative and, and, and cultural, um,

things in like representative of their time back, I think a hundred years, we had like an archive at the college and, uh, you know, we, we filmed those pieces. We got the school acapella group to like make modern renditions, um, of those pieces. And then we performed or we got them performed and filmed. Uh, we filmed them at like a state, uh, like public radio station, which is really, really cool. Um, I love talking about this stuff. I never do, but it's fun. Um, and

And, you know, we interviewed like music historians and people that, you know, spoke on all this stuff. I think even like one of the like granddaughters or something of one of the people that had that had written the sheet music, you know.

And it was really interesting just going through the times because sheet music used to be this very elite thing, right? Because those are the people that can actually afford the piano. And then seeing the transition and what the music actually talked about and what it meant to people as it became sort of more and more culturally significant and common was really interesting. And slowly over time, it evolved into trap music.

On sheet music. Sicker and sicker beats. See, I made that on the side and then won an award for corn. Corn is to the earth I rise. I haven't seen corn, but it's called fucking corn, so I'm excited as hell to hear what it is. What the hell is that? You'll love it. It's got no ranch on it. It hasn't been mummified. Fair warning. Fair warning. It's probably one of Charlie's few...

under a minute one of the few good good ones he's ever made it's just him in a corn suit holding up a can of corn my most viewed video man it's one of the few videos that i can i can stand from charlie i mean i watch any other video and i feel my teeth falling out

I'm never opening up again on this, on this, on this show. No, it was a, um, this was also for a class project where we did a live production show. We did like a, I don't know if I've ever talked to, talked about the story about it before on the, on the podcast. Uh, I feel kind of bad cause you're the guest here, but.

We did like a live production, me and two others, and it was like some sitcom bit. We were working with a TriCaster, which is kind of this thing that folds out and you kind of manually, almost what Streamlabs is now, right? People used to have these huge devices for, so you've got people on audio, you know, a person on a switchboard, someone like Manning Graphics and stuff, and all of it's kind of worse than what your typical stream looks like, but...

You know, we had a three camera setup cut between them and the script called for an ad break. So I go home and it's, you know, we're presenting it tomorrow and I'm like, I need a fucking app. And I, the day before had been recording a Hitman video separately because I did gaming stuff on my channel and I ordered a bunch of costumes.

for the Hitman video to disguise in and do bits in. And this same day, this Korn costume shows up. And I've got the... The video's fucking processing. I'm like, why did I order? What was the purpose? What was the bit I had in mind when I pressed buy on this Korn suit on Amazon.com? And...

then it hits me in a flash. It was destiny takes a knock at the door. It hits me in a flash. I open the pantry. What's that? A can of corn. I've got the ad. I stand in front of the camera, the webcam, for about 10 minutes, completely blackout. And when I come to, this video is gone. That's great. That sounds like a good process. It was a lot of fun. That's how it works. That's the creative process. You don't need Comedy Central dumping...

hundreds of thousands of dollars into bullshit production. This wasn't filmed in an Airbnb in New York City. This is just fucking, this is what YouTube's all about. Yeah, give me that Dolly Green Giant cash. It's those short videos that we all love, especially on Gus Johnson's channel. Whoa!

Oh my god! We call that the segway. This is why they call me the segway king. Dang. He just brought it back. How has he done it? Gus, one thing I don't think I've ever told you about was that I've been aware of you since back in the day when I was first my little itty bitty 3000 sub channel. I used to do this thing where I would put stuff on short videos, short little snippets of my larger videos when I had a gaming channel on YouTube Haiku.

And for the longest time, you have sort of been the hero of U2 haiku in many ways. Yeah, man. Wait, Ted, you did that too?

Dude, I think we all did. That's really funny. All of my... I saw your Elon video on YouTube. Elon, are you okay? Yeah, man. That fucking blew up on me. One that I had that blew up was me making a joke about the British Empire. It was like,

me reading somebody saying, I also think the British, I'm also British, so that's pretty cool. And then I say like, hey man, I can think of a couple reasons why the British aren't that cool. And then it starts going, shooting stars, and through this guy, and then it's just like pictures and representations of all the British atrocities to Queen. That sounds like something that would do well on YouTube, I think. Yeah, dude.

But you've... I mean, from the get-go, I'm pretty sure that was sort of how you started growing at the beginning, right? It was YouTube haiku and that sort of stuff, right? You're absolutely right, actually. Yeah, no, it was definitely the haiku shit. Like...

And I don't know if I'd be necessarily the hero of it or in some people's eyes the fucking scoundrel of it. There's fucking Gus again. Well, I was going to say like I'm the reason that they enacted like this memeless Monday shit they tried to do in 2018 or whatever because they were like sick of –

I was posting a lot of videos on there, and then other people started doing more sketch shit too. And then they were just... Some people were like, I prefer the elite, true form, naturally occurring YouTube haikus that do not... That happen inadvertently in existing culture. And I'm just like, well, I'm curating content for it. No true Scotchman's fallacy going on right there. Exactly. Well, that's not dat boy. So there was...

But anyway, they had a big sub vote on it and shit. But yeah, no, I started doing stuff on YouTube Haiku and...

Uh, can I, here, I'll give you a little mini Reader's Digest version origin story thing, and this is gonna sound a little douchey. Uh, but I was, it was my, the end of my first year of film school, this is how I kind of started my YouTube shit, and I've been doing it since I was a kid, but I hadn't really tried at it. It was almost at the end of my first freshman year of college, and, uh, I had a weekend where my, my roommate, one of my buddies from high school, he went to go visit his girlfriend. I was all alone in the dorm room, uh, and it was like March or April.

And I was dog ass sick, just fucking sick out of my mind. And I didn't like, I just didn't want to do anything. And it was just a weird Sunday. And I decided like, oh, I'm going to put on, I was like, I'm going to watch a couple movies. And obviously aged like milk shit. But the two movies I put on that I saw the first time were American Beauty and Wolf of Wall Street. Wow.

I hadn't seen him before, but central to the core theme of that, devoid of any of the other context of the shit, is that there are two people in there and they're like, you know what? Fuck you. I'm going to get whatever I want. I'm going to work my fucking ass off. Again, in the spacey context, I can't sugarcoat that. It was that feeling of just like, fuck this shit. I sort of took a step back and I was like, I'm sitting here all alone. It's almost April.

I've done, I felt like the last four years of high school has been like, I don't fucking know what I'm going to do. I got to figure something out. I was like, I already made the jump here. I'm in college. I was like,

I clearly can tell I'm not going to learn a lot of specific film knowledge at this particular university. I got to fucking do some shit. I got to do something, dude. Like I'm going to just piss away my time here. You know, I've seen the kind of shit other classmates are turning in. Like I'd like to think I can make stuff a little bit better than some of the stuff generally. So I should fucking do it, you know? And then I've been watching YouTube haiku for years and stuff. My buddy Joe Dumas growing up, we'd watch these sketches and piss our pants laughing, right?

I was like, I'll make one of those. So I put up a video and it hit the front page of that. And I was like, oh, okay, I'll keep doing that. And I just continued to make content for it for a few years. You became the wolf of r slash YouTube haiku. That is so fucking funny. I guess for people...

For people who don't know, the YouTube haikus are like 30 seconds or less videos that just have a really funny punchline. Well, technically, a YouTube haiku is under 14 seconds. And then there's a YouTube... Oh, YouTube poetry. Because it matters. Because, again...

Mmm, exactly. It's gonna be fancy. Trending on a memeless Monday. If I had those ranch corn kernels right now, I'd gingerly place one. One of the mods wakes up on a Monday and they're like, I can't wait for a memeless Monday. They see a non-meme. And they show them their torn nuts.

that's not stefan carl whisk it away brusquely yeah um damn but i um so you do you do the the short sketches on your channel but what i find one of the things i find very interesting about your channel that i feel like a lot of youtubers these days would be absolutely terrified to even do is the fact that you do simultaneously you make videos that are

three minutes, under a minute, 30 seconds, 10 seconds. But then you also do these longer, you know, 11, 12, 13 minute commentary videos and they all do well. And it's, and I think that that is somewhat unique to your channel, which I find really interesting. And, you know, you started off with these, you know, short videos, but when you were about to do one of those first, you know, longer commentary videos, were you like nervous about it? Like, were you worried that it wasn't going to do as well?

Absolutely. Sorry. Sabrina got me a beer. She's wonderful. No, I really was. The first longer video that I wanted to do was one talking about mobile game sponsorships and just how overbearing they can be from a sponsorship perspective of like you got to do XXX. I'm sure you don't have to speak. I know that very well. Hmm.

You know, but so I just wanted to like, I wanted to just like talk about that at length and stuff. And then that got good reception. People seem to really enjoy it. And I, and I found after I did a couple of those and I started wading into those that that became, it, it fulfilled a number of great things for me. Like, first of all, I wanted to talk about these subjects at length. You know, I wanted to talk about Dr. Phil or this weird Steve Harvey clip that I saw and shit, you know, and,

And it was just fun to do it and I liked the process of doing it. Also, it made the absolute most sense for sponsorship placement for me because I felt significantly more comfortable putting a sponsorship at the end of a longer video than I did in a sketch. If people do that, that's fine. I didn't want to have to do that. So I did that. Yeah, because if you have a minute-long video and then they have a minute-long sponsorship, it's like sponsorship is 50%. Exactly. And I got so in my head about that too. So yeah.

But I just – I started doing that and then I found out inadvertently that that was one of the best things that I could do for my channel in terms of growth stuff because suddenly I was tapping into the sketch stuff performing well on Reddit and Twitter and external sources.

And then the more commentary-based thing being promoted heavily within the YouTube algorithm itself. They love that watch time, baby. They like the watch time. If you have a mid-roll on there, I found my female audience percentages started swaying way up when I did the commentary videos. They see your face, right? More and...

That's what it is a lot. And then they realize, this guy's hot. I got to stick around for this. I got to ring that MF and bell. No, that's not... I don't know what it is, but I think that there's a significantly higher portion of female viewership on commentary videos than there are sketch commentaries.

Yeah, dude.

Venturous. I don't know. Do a couple commentary videos and then send those demographics out and then all of a sudden fucking Morphe is going to become aware. I don't know what I can do to sponsor them.

yeah exactly but yeah maybe it's Maybelline I don't know uh but well but anyway that's that's the thought process there is it it works in a lot of ways and it's also an opportunity for me to say hey I have a little bit of time you know I got the podium at the top of the video to be like hey guys by the way do you like this hat check it out or like hey I'm doing this new thing maybe get a ticket to my live show whereas like I'm not going to be in NBN bajones mode and be like by the way guys stop Sven put down the camera I'm

I'm going on tour next week. If you guys could, you know, like, like I just can't, it just makes a lot of sense. And I like the content. Right. Now I'm in the flow. It doesn't ruin the flow. And I, I, I'm surprised also that it hasn't hurt my channel, uh, in terms of performance wise stuff. But I, well, I mean, I think that the only, like, honestly, I can't imagine in, in what sort of instance, the longer form stuff could hurt your channel, you know, because like, yeah,

I think that it makes sense at the end of it because it's like a lot of your videos, your sketch videos that you do are sort of... Sometimes, I mean, they're a joke about a trope or a commentary on a trope that already exists. And your longer form videos are...

also in a way a commentary on you know something that's going on or something like that so people already know that you kind of have like a funny perspective on those things and also i feel like i don't know i feel like it makes sense and also youtube watch time i get the connection you're drawing there yeah yeah yeah perhaps podcast we could only get hey this guy zip it is up what's up anyway yeah

Did you know did you yeah, I was gonna ask did you know if you go like this and

You can smell your mustache? I actually do that involuntarily probably 30 times a day. I'll be like, did I get that beer on my... Yeah, I got the beer on my mustache. What does it smell like right now? Well, I mean, beer for starters, you know, a little voodoo ranger. That's fair.

But that's fair. No remnants of the hoagie I had for lunch. So that's a good sign. Looking up. That's another good sign. What does it usually smell like? I would say. Sorry, Ted. We're having a discussion here. I would jump in. I had to take off the handlebars. Come on, guys. You're not even a part of this. Look at your faces. I was going to ask what that game that Swagger had mentioned was. I'm going to clench up and grow it out right now while we're talking. Remember the milk game? I'm going to try. The milk game. You get a milk mustache and then.

You see how long it's like a game of chicken. Oh, God, don't bring this up. No, let's not talk about that. So Swagger Souls was on the podcast and he mentioned this mustache game where you take a drink of milk and you get a milk mustache. And then it's sort of a game with yourself. It's a game of chicken with yourself to just see how long you can go without getting rid of that milk on your mustache. It was unclear if this was a game or a form of torture, by the way, both of which were kind of in there.

It was in the middle. It was peppered in the middle of a discussion about torture. It was the segue to torture, so it's not good. That feels like the water torture shit to me where that drips right on your forehead like slowly. I would just feel it because you'd feel it getting warmer and you know that involuntarily something's going to drip in your mouth. It's going to be warm milk. Just accept it. And it's going to be 30% sweat. So I feel like I'd fucking lick that off in like 20 seconds tops. I couldn't do that. That would just kill me, dude. Now imagine it rotting.

And just being on the mustache the whole time. Gus, I'll be honest with you. This isn't on the topics list. What's your favorite kind of milk, man? Have you ever heard about scaphism? I'm just trying to get us out of here. Have you ever been fed a lot of milk and honey and sent out into a still water lake in a canoe? You're an oat milk kind of guy. Absolutely.

I wouldn't judge if you were sorry. You're just shitting out milk and honey. Really? If it's liquid, if you can put it in the cereal and you enjoy it, that's what it's all about. Insects just start eating you to death. Scapism, you ever heard about that? You start drinking that milk. Oh, well, I can show you. I mean, we can look up some videos on LiveLeak after this if you're down. Yeah, sure. I'll send it to your beeper. That'll be good. You know, the old page. So, Gus, before we...

reached the end of this, this podcast, I've got one final question for you on the topic of liquids, sweating them. Because we did a would you rather situation a while ago. So I have to ask you, would you rather sweat blood or pus?

Oh, God, man. Ew. Why'd you pick that one? You know what I think, just from a practicality standpoint? I feel like Puss is the grosser one, but it's the easier to disguise one. Oh, interesting. Like, blood would be such a coloration issue where it's like you're pretty much gridlocked to wearing black shirts the rest of your life so that shit doesn't show up on accident, whereas Puss could at worst look like really gross BO sweat, you know?

Charlie is raising his hand. I've got a question. I've got a question. Yes. All right. You calling? Is this official? You calling on me? Yes, for PUS related issues. Yes. It's not PUS related. I did have another question, though. Would you rather every day wake up and get one inch taller or would you rather wake up every day and get one inch wider? Ooh. It never stops. Infinitely. Wider. Wider.

really yeah that's the first widen we've gotten on this on this podcast at some point you're gonna have to huck me in a room either way and at least i can fucking stand up if i'm just getting wider you know well the way that we discussed with the way it's really a question of the nature of the threat you're gonna eventually pose yeah because the way that we thought about it is you get if you get wider you would eventually just become like a saturn's ring around the earth whereas like that is the hypothetical

Whereas if you were to get taller, I mean, you would eventually sort of become like a space elevator to the moon. Um, that's a good, and beyond. So what you're saying, you're, you're kind of saying now is you would become sort of the, the, the future envelope of the earth for new flora and fauna to, to sprout from, you know, return to the cycle. And I'm happy to do that more than anything. I'm happy to do that. Um,

But now I'm honestly rethinking it in the sense that if I got longer, I could still have people directly come up to me and speak to me. I'm realizing. Yes, that's very true. You would lose contact with everybody. Yeah. Just getting taller. Who are you going to talk to up there? No, actually down. But there is danger.

Fuck, if I'm taller though, I could lay down. In fact, the inverse of that, Schlatt. If I got wider, people couldn't walk up to me, even if I was six foot tall, you know? They would have to kind of climb up to you. They'd have to like fucking swim. It would be like another Mark Rober video of like the fucking cornstarch water shit. They'd have to run across my little...

Shit. So you'd be laying down? You'd be bedridden your whole life as your legs just got longer and longer? Yeah, because I mean, let's face it, 10 days in, I'm going to probably not even be able to support my own weight on my legs anyway. So I'm committed to laying it down. Might as well have people still be able to come up and kiss me and give me some food, you know, like stuff like that. So as long as you keep your head in the same place. Yeah. Yeah.

The rest of it can go wherever else. So officially, sir, wider as long as provided kisses, smoochies, and food. That's it, in that order.

No, he wants taller. I've actually... Well, you know what? It's wider with the iota. You can take both. We haven't had anyone do it before. I'm not taking both. Then I'd just be a planet in and of myself, you know? I'm gonna actually... I'm a wishy-washy, but it's a big decision. I'm going taller again. Wrap me around the earth, baby. Come up and give me a kiss, okay?

Fuck yeah. Wow. Well, thank you for that answer. Well, hey, I got one now. Gus, you're a Skyrim guy. You like games. Would you rather have unlimited bacon? Is the joke that you're not going to provide a secondary option?

Would you rather have unlimited bacon, but... You need to be able to pull yourself together for this. Come on, man. You son of a bitch. Come on, pull it together. Unlimited bacon, but... You son of a bitch. Pull it together right now. But no more games? Wait, is that the only option? Come on, finish it. Finish the question. Would you...

Finish the goddamn question. Stop! Finish the question! Say it! Say it! Would you rather have unlimited bacon? But can't play games. No more games. Or... Or... You have games. Can I guess? Unlimited... Unlimited games. Can I guess the inverse then? I'm guessing that potentially the inverse of that would be that I would have...

An unending multitude of games that I could potentially play, but that I would be severely limited, in fact, entirely limited as to the potential to consume bacon. Charlie, your eyes are red from crying. I don't know why...

no that's not the inverse okay would you maybe okay i'll just would you rather or something gus johnson gus would you rather have unlimited bacon but no more games yeah or games unlimited games rip it off

Wax it. Would you rather have unlimited bacon and no games? No more games. Or games. Unlimited games. And no games. Games and no games? Unlimited games. But no games. But no games. This is the fucking pinnacle that you built towards? Did you just fucking Chris Farley show me? You remember that?

Alright, well, I mean... Which one's it gonna be? Considering all of the parameters that have been laid forth... It's literally just like the weakest would-you-rather that exists in the universe, in our dimension. This is... What's the recommended amount of dedicated wham to your question here for the server? Well, what's it gonna be?

Well, both of them sound pretty decidedly unepic, I'll tell you that much. I'm going to have to go in the camp of having unlimited bacon, but no games. Why? Because strictly from a social standpoint, it feels as though I'll be getting breakfast with people more often than I'll be hopping on Discord with people. So it lost out, unfortunately. I'm sorry. There you go. What about the second option? Swayed you.

Well, at first, I will tell you, the Unlimited games was alluring.

Yeah. But the later half of the proposition, you know, it just that's where it fell short. I felt, you know, and it was just the lack. It was not only the lack of games, but the all encompassing lack of games that was ultimately alienating for me. Well, it's been a pleasure seeing you on Twitch. I guess I'll catch you now. And I hop. Yeah. You know, I'll be an IRL streamer. I would be like Sam Pepper out there. I would be at Denny's.

So, Gus, for the people who've stuck around this far, whether it's our audio listeners love you to death or if it's our video watchers on the YouTube, where can they find you? Do you want to open this up for the little— You got any plugs? Got any upcoming projects you want to plug? This is your Sean Evans. Disc camera. Disc camera. Can I throw on— Disc camera. Disc camera. Let me roll out the red carpet for you. Let me roll out the red carpet.

I will throw in a micro morsel of a Sean Evans thing. And then I'll say, first of all, you can find me on Twitch at Gus to or Gus Johnson. I'm Gus Johnson on YouTube. Uh, I make sketches and stuff. So you come say hello to me, please. Uh, I actually shot, here's my Sean Evans thing. I shot a hot ones parody with I dubs three and a half years ago called cold ones, where it was the show with, uh,

very lackluster questions and progressively colder wings. So, uh, I just, I mean, it was kind of like a Chris Farley show clone of, you know, like, you know, you're, so you're the, are you like a, a real cop or what's the, uh,

What is, you know, like just nothing ones where you just stammer and then every wing went from like really undercooked barbecue slathered wing to ultimately in package still Tyson frozen wings. And like Ian was just eating them and shit. But I shot it on his, his, uh, film person at the time. He brought a 4k camera. We shot it on his gear. He gave it to me. I had my shitty fucking 2014 MacBook pro and I couldn't edit 4k footage worth dick.

And I wasn't smart enough to be like, well, I could just transport this to fucking 1080p and export it and like leave it overnight. So anyway, I didn't touch it for a while. And then fucking Max and Chad made cold ones. And then I said, well –

Max, Chad, Ian, Cold One. I can't fucking do that. So I've never released it. Wow. But one of the jokes in there was that I had an – there's my tieback here. This is a tieback to this story. I had a joke where I had like 50 of them. I had like a bunch of cameras. I was like this camera, this camera. Those two cameras have been going out. I wouldn't – that camera back there, this –

Yeah, okay. That camera's good still. That guy's got his iPhone out. Can we cut over to that? Yeah, exactly. I did that whole thing. That kind of reminds me a little bit of Sven's school project thing where with the cameras, like, with the wide and the cut it and the zoom in and stuff. Exactly, yeah, yeah. But anyway, that's my morsel. That's my overly long goodbye. No problem. Either way. Find him on Twitch. Find him on YouTube. Thank you so much, Gus Johnson, for coming on to the Chuckle Sandwich podcast. You've been our favorite.

You were the horse. You were the horseradish mustard. Let's go, dude. It was the horseradish mustard. It was tangy. It had some tang to it. It had a ka-chow. Just like Lightning McQueen. And he died of carbon monoxide poisoning. So, either way, have a great one, guys. Thanks so much, Gus. Thank you. Bye-bye.