Stephen Roach is a Yale professor with extensive experience in China. He also taught the first China class I ever took, so it may be fair to say he's partially to blame for the entire ChinaTalk enterprise.

In our conversation (taped on February 23), we discuss:

The nexus between US-China relations and the DSM-5 (we need some relationship therapy!);
How false narratives strangle effective diplomatic development;
What Stephen thinks about the odds of a hot conflict over Taiwan;
Practical proposals to improve the bilateral relationship, including what a “US-China Secretariat” (based in neutral Tahiti, obviously) would look like;
Is it the US or China — or both — who fundamentally has no interest in engagement?

Apologies for my audio quality in the second half of the show.

Outro music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRM70Jw7F4M

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Roach on US-China Couples Therapy