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The Poet Who Toppled The British Empire

2024/10/11
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Tim Harford: 萨罗吉尼·奈杜是一位杰出的印度诗人和政治活动家,她领导了非暴力抵抗运动,反对英国殖民统治。她的努力,特别是杜拉萨纳盐场抗议,通过媒体报道向全世界展现了英国殖民统治的残酷,最终促使英国政府改变政策,并为印度的独立做出了巨大贡献。她的故事证明了非暴力也能带来变革,并且对世界其他地区的社会运动产生了深远的影响。她与甘地合作,发展了“ सत्याग्रह ”(非暴力抵抗)的理念,但实践中也面临着许多挑战,例如孟买抗议活动中发生的暴力事件。她的经历也展现了在争取自由的道路上,需要灵活性和对环境的适应性。 尽管她最初崇拜英国文化,但在剑桥大学的经历和目睹英国的歧视后,她转变为印度独立运动的领导者。她参与印度国民大会,并意识到仅仅通过政治游说无法取得进展,英国政府背信弃义,贾利安瓦拉巴格惨案进一步加剧了印度人民对英国的反抗情绪,促使她寻找新的抵抗方式。 David Bodanis: “好人不得志”的说法并非完全正确,关键在于找到暴力和一味顺从之间的平衡点。萨罗吉尼·奈杜和甘地的非暴力抵抗运动,虽然在实践中面临诸多挑战,例如孟买抗议活动中发生的暴力事件,但最终取得了成功,证明了这种“中间道路”的可行性。成功的关键在于对环境的敏锐观察、对反馈的及时响应以及对可能出现问题的预演。将原则付诸实践非常困难,需要灵活性和对环境的适应性,需要不断地调整策略,以应对不断变化的局势。

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Why did Sarojini Naidu and her followers choose non-violent resistance against British rule in India?

Sarojini Naidu and her followers believed that India's fate depended on a non-violent path to resistance. They aimed to expose the injustices of British rule without resorting to violence, which they felt would only lead to more repression. Naidu, inspired by Gandhi's philosophy of Satyagraha (holding firmly to truth), sought to rectify unjust laws through peaceful civil disobedience, making the injustice clear to everyone without creating new injustices.

What was the significance of the 1930 salt march led by Sarojini Naidu?

The 1930 salt march, led by Sarojini Naidu, was a pivotal moment in India's independence movement. It aimed to reclaim salt production, which had been monopolized and taxed by the British. The march exposed the unfairness of British policies and demonstrated the power of non-violent resistance. Despite brutal police violence against the marchers, the event drew global attention, particularly through the reporting of an American journalist, which helped shift international opinion against British rule in India.

How did Sarojini Naidu's experiences in Cambridge influence her views on British rule?

Sarojini Naidu's experiences in Cambridge, particularly witnessing the violent and humiliating riots against women seeking degrees, shattered her idealization of British culture. She realized that the British, who claimed moral and intellectual superiority, were capable of deep injustice and hypocrisy. This revelation led her to question the legitimacy of British rule in India and inspired her to fight for Indian independence upon her return.

What role did Gandhi play in Sarojini Naidu's approach to resistance?

Gandhi played a crucial role in shaping Sarojini Naidu's approach to resistance. After the failure of both violent and political methods, Naidu turned to Gandhi's philosophy of Satyagraha, which emphasized non-violent civil disobedience. Gandhi and Naidu collaborated closely, with Naidu becoming a key leader in the Indian National Congress and a prominent advocate for non-violent resistance, culminating in events like the 1930 salt march.

What was the global impact of Sarojini Naidu and Gandhi's non-violent resistance movement?

The non-violent resistance movement led by Sarojini Naidu and Gandhi had a profound global impact. It inspired similar movements worldwide, including Martin Luther King Jr.'s civil rights movement in the United States and Nelson Mandela's fight against apartheid in South Africa. The success of their approach demonstrated that non-violent resistance could achieve significant political change, influencing struggles for women's rights, disability rights, and other social justice movements.

How did the British government respond to the 1930 salt march and its aftermath?

The British government initially downplayed the significance of the 1930 salt march, with Viceroy Irwin dismissing it as a minor incident. However, the brutal police violence against the marchers, witnessed by an American journalist, led to widespread international condemnation. This shift in public opinion, combined with growing unrest in India, eventually pressured the British government to reconsider its policies, contributing to India's eventual independence in 1947.

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India, 1930. Sarojini Naidu is marching towards a British-controlled saltwork; behind her is a long column of protestors all dressed in white. The great campaigner for India's Independence, Gandhi, is now in jail. In his place, he's chosen Naidu to lead this movement against the hard and fearsome British Empire.

Naidu and her marchers want change, and they want to achieve it peacefully. India's fate, they believe, depends on a non-violent path to resistance.

Today, there will be violence. But it won't come from them.

This is the final episode in a four-part series about how to succeed without being a jerk. This episode is based on David Bodanis' forthcoming book How To Change The World, which is scheduled to be published in late 2025.

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