Vice President Kamala Harris
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Daddy ganging, I went to washington, D. C. To interview vice president kala Harris.

As you guys know, I do not usually discuss politics or have politicians on the show, because I want call or or daddy to be a place that everyone feels comfortable tuning in every single week. I talk about topics like mental health, relationships x sexuality, trauma. Overall, my focus is women and the data date issues that we face.

So I will be honest, I had been going back in fourth with this decision for a while to get involved or to not get involved. But at the end of the day, I couldn't see a world in which one of the main conversations in this election is women and are not a part of IT. I am so aware I have a very mixed audience when IT comes to politics, so please hear me when I say my goal today is not to change your political affiliation.

What i'm hoping is that you're able to listen to a conversation that isn't too different than the ones that we're having here every week. I was given forty minutes with the vice president, the united states. No topic was off limits.

I prepared seven different versions of this interview. Do I talk about the economy? Do I talk about border control? Do I talk about fracking? But then I realized, you can hear about all of those issues on whichever news site you prefer, and let's be real.

And probably not the one to be having the fracking conversation, but the conversation I know I am qualified to have is the one surrounding women's bodies and how we are treated and valued in this country. I want to be so clear, since this isn't a one sided conversation, we reached out to former president Donald trump to come on the show. If he also wants to have a meaningful indebt conversation about women's rights in this country, then he is welcome on color di anytime. So daddy, again, with all of that said, let's get into IT.

What is your daddy game? IT is your founding father, alex Cooper, with call her. Modern vice president alex, welcome to call her daddie.

IT is good to be with you. Thank you so much for being here. We're in the final stretch of the elections. How are you feeling?

I feeling great, and i'm fillin nervous. You know, there's this old added there, only two ways to run without an opponent or scared. So there you go is the only thing that matters is really just spending as much time as I can, as much time as I possibly can, meeting with people and talking with them about mistakes and and their future.

I'm curious, like you don't do too many long form interviews, what means you want to do color daddy today?

Well, I think you and your listeners have really got this thing right, which is one of the best ways to communicate with people is to be real, you know, and to talk about the things that people really care about. What I love about what you do is that your voice in in your show is really about your listeners. And I think especially now, this is a moment in the country and in life where people really want another scene and heard and and that they're part of a community that they're not out there alone. And and i'm really glad to be with you.

Thank you. Thank you for taking the time. I know you're very busy person. I really like to get to know people on my show.

Obviously, we are going to talk about all the issues that are going on, but I also want to get to know you as a person today. Is that okay with you? Okay, let's get into IT growing up. My mother is a psychologist.

Yeah oh, how was that? Oh.

IT was great question now in high insight. Like fabulous. When I was in IT, I was like, mom, why do you know everything like but ah one thing I really valued was SHE really emphasized the importance of mental health and talking about our feelings and communicating. And I know that you were primarily raised by your mother. Yes, can you share with me like what values did your mom and still in you from a Young age?

Well, you know, a similar to what you described about your mother. My mother definitely impressed upon us the importance of as being able to express how we were feeling in a lot of IT, I think, was also about her teaching us that we had agency and so that things don't just happen to you. And so think about how you are feeling, not just as a way to dump, but also as a way to kind of figure out where you are in a moment, right? And sent to yourself.

I mean, to your point, when I got older, like when I was not, I don't know, late teens in my twenties, if I came home with the problem, i'm telling you, every time I came, if I came home with the problem, the first thing my mother would do SHE was, look at me like other mothers. I believe we're hugging their kids and like, oh, honey, what can I do? And all that, my mother, the first thing, what did you do? But here's the thing that I realized, SHE was actually teaching me, think about where you had agency in that moment, and think about what you have the choice to do or not do.

And like, don't let things just happen to you. And I realized that was a really powerful thing he was teaching, which is, figure out how you can take charge of a moment. You can't always, we don't have control of everything, obviously, but but don't just let things happen to you without thinking about, okay, what can I do in this moment?

It's fun to hear you say that because these are theme s that i've talked about on my show before of like, yeah, we can sit here and well on something that happened to us and we can also say you, but what could I have done in that situation to have autonomy over my life? People can do things to you, but you can only decide how you're gna react. That's all you have.

Not exactly right, but exactly right. And in that way, you you realize, don't let anyone take your power from you. You know that so important I mean, the other thing my mother would say all the time and i'm going to quote is don't do anything how I asked .

a i'm curious when you're saying that about, you know have agency over your own life and don't let things just happen to you like take control and take how have you put that into being the vice president of the united states?

A lot of micros as a prosecutor. And so IT was about really wanting to protect the most vulnerable and where they did not have the power. And IT wasn't of their own choosing, but because they were the subject of abuse, because they were the subject of an imbaLance of power, right? And so a lot of the work that i've done has been about wanting to restore, to extent I can play a role, they're right to have justice, to have voice.

You know, right now, this fight for what we need to do around reproductive freedom is, I mean, could you be more at its core about just the basic right, any individual of whatever gender has to make decisions about their own body and not have their government tell them what to do or even voting. Yeah right about saying, look, I know that there's sennit M, I know that there that there there's A A real feeling that, well, what does that matter? Does my voice voice matter? But a lot of my push to have hopefully convince people that they should vote is because you should never laid by take your power from you. And voting is one of the ways that you use your voice to determine who your government will be in which your future will be by your government.

You've ultimate history. You are the first female vice president. You could very well become the next president of the united states. What do you think your what say?

Uh, well, okay, so here's let me just tell what my mother did say when I was running for a tourney. General OK, so they're never been a woman. Attorney general, california.

And the race was so tight, I mean, IT, fast forward to the end on election night. My opponent declared red, his Victory, by the way, I want, okay, but let's go back. Let's go backward.

So I was when I was first running, and I was when my mother was very sick with cancer and SHE ultimately passed away. And but I would take her to the hospital. Then I spell out time with her, took care of her.

So one day we're at the hospital and she's in the bed and you know, SHE was at this phase of of her illness where he was really just really tired and and so i'm sitting next to her and he had her face turned in the other direction. SHE was kind of have sleeping and then SHE leaned over to him and he said, what's going on with the race? And then he leaned back over and I said, well, mummy, they said they're gonna kick my eyes. At which point my mother turned her and looked at me and had the biggest smile. At the biggest smile ever, that was my mother.

Sitting across from you, I think, you know, as women, we have to work ten times harder. We got to be smarter. We got to play the game to even get our foot in the door. sometimes. Can you tell the daddy game when people tell, you know, when people look at you and doubt you, what is that ignite in you?

So i've been told that many times, and through the course of my career, i've been told, you know, at one point you too Young. I've been told, oh, nobody like you has ever done that before oh, they're not ready for you oh, and this is the one that kills me. Oh, it's gonna lot of hard work, right?

As though we don't like hardwork. And here's my response. I don't hear no.

I don't hear no. And I urge all the daddy going, don't hear, no, just don't hear. IT. Throughout this election.

your identity has been called into question many times. Your opponent has called you crazy, weak, fake and dumb.

How does that affect you? I think is really important not to let other people define you, and usually those people who will attempt to do IT don't know you.

I want to talk about before you are current in washington. Yes, you mentioned he worked as a prosecutor specializing in sexual assault cases. And this is something obviously I touch on on my show. I have so many women that listen, and I want to talk to you because I know you how a personal connection as to why you really saw that out. Can you talk about what LED you to taking on that career?

So when I was in high school, my best friend, her name is Wanda, I learned, was being sexually assaulted by her stepfather. And, you know, I knew something was going on because SHE SHE didn't want to go home. You know, he just seems there.

And so SHE told me, and I immediate, you have to come instead with us. I called my mother was at work. Yes, he has to come say he did.

And I just IT upset me so that someone where they should feel safe and protected were being so horribly abused and violated, right? And anyway, I decided at yang, in age, I wanted to do the work of protecting vulnerable people. I mean, look, I was raised on the oldest two daughters. I was raised with my mother saying since practically the day my sister was born, you look out for your sisters so maybe it's start when I was too but um Wanda and in her experience really um convinced me and made me realize how this can happen and what we need to do to stand against IT .

can you because again, like I have women right in being like I don't know who to tell. I'm damming you and i'm telling you because the shame and the terror and where do I go from here? And most of the time, that is the people that are closest and that are doing this. Like that is, what feelings do you have? And like, what is the course of action in that moment that you take?

So the first thing that I would say to anyone going through IT is tell someone that you trust don't don't quietly suffer. You have done nothing wrong. You have done nothing wrong and don't let anyone convince you.

You have um often the abuser will tell her that if he tells them, something worse will happen, and that is usually wrong. And know that there are people that want you to be safe and we want to protect you but don't silently suffer. And um I know that you have a right to live in in a place where you feel safe and are actually safe.

Um unfortunately, I know that so many women can relate to what we're talking about. One in three women has experience .

some form of and I feel when we say that.

that number can get lost because it's like one and three, remember like this is happening. This is real. This is happening right now.

But alex, like me to say this, thank you for talking about IT because part of the issue is that people don't talk about IT. And I don't mean the survivors of IT. I mean nobody does.

And the more that we let anything exist in the shadows, the more likely that is that people are suffering and suffering silently. And we need to talk about IT. We have to talk about IT. Tell sexual assault is something that affects far more people, then the public discourse about IT acknowledges. And the more we talk about IT, the more we will address IT and deal with IT, the more we will be equipped to deal with IT, be IT in terms of schools, in terms of the society at large, right? And to not stigmatising.

I I agree. I think like the power that we have is through our voice over here, like me, trying to have a conversation. Any chance I can get the amount of times I have conversations with women and then I have thousands of women reaching up being like, oh my god, I just remembered something from watching this podcast episode. And IT brought up the trauma, but now I know I need to get help. Like years ago this wasn't even a conversation.

but say, this is. And that's exactly right. And so when I talk about, when I say stigmatize IT, what I mean to stigmatize the survivor we still have so far article on the island of child sexual saw um just like in a previous time the issue domestic vance people didn't talk about domestic violence.

And part of IT was this really warped idea that will what happens in the home is none of our business, but if IT happened on the street, IT would be our business if we witnessed on the street. And so the point being that abuse of anyone is something we should all take seriously as supposed to saying it's not our business, it's something that we have to agree should not happen. And whatever resources and whatever attention we can put into reducing the likelihood that happens is worthwhile.

how do we make this country safer for women?

Though that's a big question and there is a lot to unpack there. I mean, one of the things, for example, on domestic violence that I can tell you is this when a woman, and in particular, if he has children, if SHE is economically reliant on her abusive, she's less likely to leave, because most women will endure whatever personal, physical pain they must in order to makes for their kids have a roof over their head or food. So one of the ways that we know that women are able to walk away from abuse in there are many layers to her being able to do that, but one of them is does he have the economic freedom to be able to do that, right? Um so one of the ways that we know we can uplift the ability of women to have choices is uplift the ability of women to have economic health and well being.

I'm going to get more into that later, but about you know how we can make that possible. But I do want to reference something I saw was at a rally in pennsylania, ia, former president trump recently told women, you will be protected and I will be your protector. What do you make of that?

So he, who, when he was president, hand selected three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of robi weight. And they did just as he intended. And there are now twenty states with trump abortion bans, including bands that make no exception for raper insist, which we just discussed, which means that you're telling a survivor of a crime of a violation to their body.

They don't have a right to make a decision about what happens to their body next, which is immoral. So this is the same guy that is now saying that. This is the same guy who said that women should be purified for having abortions.

This is the same guy who uses the kind of language he does to describe women. So yeah, there you go. I do want to focus on abortion .

for a moment, because two years ago, robi wade was overturned and women lost their constitutional right to abortion. I put out an episode about IT. I flew in north CarOlina.

I went to a preferred women health center. I met with women that we're getting screamed, dot and chanted out and called baby killers. And IT was the most eye opening experience i've never had because I am a privileged White woman that lives in los Angeles, and I am so aware of that.

Um I understand that a lot of the Younger generation sees things online and is like, what is right, what is wrong, what is real, what is not? Can you explain and talk about what is actually happening to abortion access right now in this country? yeah.

So again, I thank you for what you've been doing at the earliest stage of this and following the stories. So you know, on public policy, I often tell my team, look, I don't wants to hear about public policy is a fancy kind of speech or or paper. Tell me how to affect a real person so let's talk about how to affect real person.

The majority women who receive a washing care are mothers so if she's in a state and by the way, every state in the south except for Virginia has an abortion ban okay um so imagine she's in a state within the point one out of three women are, by the way, in our country. And she's a mom, so she's gonna have to figure out one. God help.

She's affordable childcare, god help she's paid leave. And then she's gonna have to go to the airport, stand in A T, S, A line, sit on a plane next to a perfect stranger to go to the city where she's never been to receive the care he needs. She's gonna probably have to get right back on that plane because she's got those kids, her best friends, probably not with her. Cassez was taken care of the kids to get back in that T S. A line, to get back on a plane, to go home.

And that's all if they can even afford the plane exactly, or the bus is exactly exactly. Because when robi wade was overturned, I remember my dms were flooded with thousands of women begging me to help and it's overwhelming. And I can imagine i'm saying that in front of you bit, it's overwhelming. And I remember people begging me like, I just need to afford a bus ticket so I can get out of this abortion desert that I live in the sales so I can get to a state but they can even, you know, I mean, so it's like these people are literally landlocked into a position that they don't want to be.

And and here's the thing, here's the thing, is that you don't have to abandon in your faith or deeply how beliefs to agree. The government should not be telling her what to do if you choose this shall talk to her, prize her past her rp by her mom, but not the government telling you what to do. And that's what's so outrageous about IT is a bunch of these guys have been the state capitals are writing these decisions because they somehow have decided they're a Better position to tell you what's in your best interest than you are to know what's in your own best interest.

It's outrageous. It's outrageous. I mean daddy game to put IT in um artie tok terms um I have seen girls on the street woke up to my ability do you know where a tampon goes?

Do you know how many tam pons we use? Do you even know how? Like do you know what A X, A Y, Z is of a part of our? And they don't know the answer. I was the .

first vice president or president to ever in office. Go to a reproductive health care clinic ever? really? Yes, yes, yes.

I didn't know that.

but I guess that makes sense to your fight.

And yet the men are making the distance and years.

And here's the other thing about this point that it's about ivf treatments and access. So at access contraction tion, which is very much at risk with these folks. Um IT is about back to the point about reproductive health clinics.

You know what those clinics also do? They do peps, they do breast cancer screenings, they do H I V. Testing, and they're having to close in many places with these bands. So think about the fact that for anyone who has gone to one of these clinics, you understand that IT is sometimes the most trusted place where people received that kind of health care because they walk in the those places that is generally staff ed by people who who create a safe place for people to come in without judgement. So anyone seeking any kind of reproductive health care and and wanting to go to a place where they feel safe and without judgment, these clinics have often been the place that people can go. And many of them were having to close because of these laws.

I was raised catholic, and abortion is, is this in? And when I put out that episode, I had a lot of women reach out to me saying, like, well, I you live in the south and I never thought about IT that way like, maybe I am pro choice because I won't get an abortion because of my religion, but why should we control what someone else want to?

It's interesting to your point, but i'm finding as a travel people who before two years ago, before robi wade was was overturned, people who felt very strong about that they are anti abortion, anti version, are now seeing what's happening and saying, um I didn't intend all this to happen and I think that's also why in state after states so called red states and so called blue states, when this issue has been on the ballot, the american people are voting for freedom because ultimately it's about, look, this is not about imposing my thoughts on you in terms of what you do with your life, for your body. It's it's actually quite the opposite. It's saying the government shouldn't telling .

people what to do. I think that, unfortunately, but we have these these real life names, we have these horrific moments that these people are losing their lives, right? We have a woman named Amber theron who died in georgia because the abortion bans in that state, the doctors were too afraid to treat her. I know that you spoke to her family. What was that conversation like?

IT was heart breaking. Alex IT was heartbreaking, her mom and her two sisters. And so Amber was a Young mother of a sexual son.

He was a medical assistant who was so excited because SHE was just getting on her feet to be independent. SHE got an apartment in a gated community with a pool that her son could play in. SHE got accepted to nursing school.

SHE was, as described by her family, so excited and so ambition, ambitious. And he had plans. Then SHE found out she's pregnant and SHE don't wanted go through with her pregNancy. And SHE was living in georgia and he couldn't receive care there because he was past six weeks.

And so SHE ended up going to another state and because he was basically was SHE couldn't get there on time um and because the other state had been so overwhelmed by all these women coming from all these southern states who couldn't get treatment in their own state, her the window for her appointment had closed so instead of having a surgical procedure, SHE had medication and basically went back home and then had some complications and went to the hospital because he was bleeding and they delayed twenty hours before they treated her because here's the thing that so messed up about this some of these people will say, well, but I do believe in exceptions. I believe that there should be an exception in in terms of in the life of the mother. Okay, here let's talk about this.

This is back to against practical application of policy. okay. So you believe there's an exception that the person should receive abortion here if the life of the mother is at risk.

You know what that means in practical terms? She's almost dead before you decide to give her care what? So we're going to have public kal policy that says a doctor, a medical professional, waits until you're a depth door before they give you care.

That's outrages that anybody would be saying that that is acceptable policy. So until everything that that physically could happen to your body in terms of determination. Only at the point that, oh, he might die if you're gonna get care. Where's the humanity?

I think that's what's been very difficult as a Young adult in this country right now, was like, there are so many policies I could sit here and talk to you about, but call her daddy has been rooted in supporting women and talking about women and lifting women up, because IT is no denying that we have always been underserved and we are treated like second class citizen. And right? And I can see people I get IT.

We're going to talk about the economy. We've talked about all about all this. But what is any of that good for if we're not even taking care of the people that are able to produce the next generation? Yeah, I do want to clarify something in the debate. Former president trump claimed that some states are executing babies after birth. Can you just clarify .

that is not happening anywhere in the united states. IT is not happening. And it's a lie, just it's a bold face lie that he is suggesting that can you imagine can you imagine he is suggesting that women in their eighth month of pregNancy are electing to have an abortion? Are you kid? That is that is so outrageously inaccurate and it's so insulting to suggest that that would be happening and that women would be doing that.

It's not happening anywhere is this guy is full of lies. I mean, I have to have to be very candid with you. You know, some in my career, from the time I got at a law school through most of my career as a prosecutor, I understood that the words that I spoke and what I did with those words would be the difference between whether somebody was charged with a crime or went to prison, maybe prison for life.

When I was a tourney y general, I was the top of enforcement officer of the bigger state in this country. And I was acutely aware that the words I spoke could be the difference between whether a corporation was in business or out of business, that the words I spoke could move markets. The idea that someone is not only so careless and irresponsible and reckless, but out and out lies to create fear and division in our country and thinks he should be president of the united states, standing behind the seal of the president of the united states, using the microphone that comes with that.

And using that voice in those words in such an irresponsible and that's mild way. And this is why the selection matters. There's so many things that stake right now. And one of them is to collectively say, you know what, somebody who uses their voice in their in that microphone in that way should never be present in the united states.

I think again, like i'm not CNN, i'm not fuck like I am a woman who is talking about her experiences on my podcast. And I have millions of women that tune in to connect with me and to connect with ever sitting across from me. And I want to pose this question more to you and the dad again. But one of the biggest conversations in this year's election revolves around a woman's body.

Yeah.

I wants to take a moment. And can we try to think of any law that gives the government the power to make a decision?

I know .

what you could ask about a man body, let's .

know. no. Is there anyone? No, no, it's no. Look, we are working progress. But here's the one of the many things that so love about our country.

Part of the strength of our country in our evolution as a country has been through the fight for the expansion of rights, now the restriction of rights, but the expansion of rights. And we still have work to do. But I say that that work is born out of love of country and it's hard work, but it's good work and it's important work. And that's what before each of us and I think that you know around election time but every day back to the conversation that we've been having about power um the beauty of of a democracy is that we each as individuals have the power to weigh in on this stuff and around election time it's through your vote and you know if you're interested, the ability to organize your friends and family around what you care about, that's on the ballot but this is the beauty of democracy we each have the power to wait in on this and I and I say to everybody, however you vote, don't let anyone take your power from you .

I wanna ask you question because they're again in speaking about women. There hasn't a very big fixation on biological children, step children, women that have children, inverse women that don't have children. It's like a huge point somehow of this entire election right? Um I saw the governor of arkansas said my kids keep me humble unfortunately kala hera doesn't have anything keeping her humble.

How do that make you feel? I don't think he understands that. Um there are a whole lot of women out here who one are not aspiring to be humble.

Two, a whole lot women out there who have a lot of love in their life, family in their life and children in their life. And I think it's really important for women to lift each other up. You know, i'll tell you out one of the things that I have really enjoyed about where the discussion has gone. One of the places is gone, if we have our family by blood, and then we have our family by love, and I have both, and I considered to be a real blessing. And I have two beautiful children, Colin ela, who call me mamalis we have a very modern family.

My husband's x wife is a friend of mine, you know and I will tell you um look, i'm a child of divorce parents and when I started dating doug, my I was very thoughtful and am sensitive to making sure that until I knew that our relationship was something that was going to be real, I didn't want to to form a relationship with the kids and then walk away from that relationship. It's I just my own experience tells me that you know children form attachments and you really want to be thoughtful about IT. So I waited to meet the kids and they are my children and I love those kids to death. And family comes in many forms and I think that um increasingly you know all of us understand that you know this is not the nineteen fifties anymore. Families come in all kinds of shapes and forms and they're family nevertheless.

it's a big conversation I have on my show because I also know there are a lot of people that you know don't have the ability to even have a relationship with their blood families, right? Whether death or abuse or boundaries is more common these days for people to know what boundaries are in the first place because of the conversation around mental health and to choose family and to choose people that lift them up. And I think um IT is a very big conversation, I wanted to say, for the daddy game of like you should not feel ashamed for whatever you call your family a family AAAA.

That's exactly right. That's so I think that's absolutely important because again, I think there are so many forces that come in very different ways that are just trying to make people feel small and alone.

I know that we all saw obviously Taylor swift, like, sign out on her instagram. And I wanted to address Donald trumps V, P. pick.

J. D. Vance called women who don't have kids, childless cat ladies. What message do you think this sends to women who cannot conceive or just don't want kids?

I just think it's mean and mean spirit. And I think that most americans want leaders who understand that the measure of their strength is not based on who you be down, the real measure of the strength of the leaders based on who you lift up.

Almost one in for jensie and millennial say they don't want to have kids because it's too dam expensive. Um how are you going to help? Young people do not feel left behind.

So first of all, it's a very real issue and we need to take this seriously. And I do take IT very seriously. So there are a number of issues that contribute to that, that feeling.

One is housing is too expensive and we need to increase the housing supply. So part of my plan is to work with home builders in the private sector to create tax incentives to build by the, in my first term, three million more housing units. Second, peace is twenty five thousand dollar downpayment assistance for first time home buyers. Because a big issue in terms of the barrier to being a home owner is just having enough to actually put that down payment down, right, to get your foot in the door. The other piece of IT is we need to give tax credits and and really understand that middle class and working people need a break. And so part of my plan is to give a hundred million more people, who basically are middle class working people, tax cuts, including for Young parents, a six thousand dollar tax cut for the first year of their child's life, which helps them buy a crib bar, a car seat or clothing, and just get through that first year, which is such a an important and critical stage of their chance development. I have a lot of .

listeners that are fresh out of college, right? And they were told, obviously, their student loans would be forgiven. And now they are drowning in soon debt. What are we go to those people we are fighting.

and i'm going to continue to for student debt relief. I mean, student loan debt is a huge issue. And to your point, it's a barrier to people being able to think even think about starting a family, buying home and IT just we d need to give people relief part of the work that we've done is when i've been vice president has been to forgive student on debt for A A millions of people by this point I think over five million um including doubling the amount of student loan forgiveness for public servants like nurses and teachers and firefighters and but we have to do more dad is a big issue the other piece that i've been pushing for us is is helping people um terms of medical debt not being on their credit score because you if you rack up dead because you you have medical bills and IT can be used against your credit score, which is going to impact your ability to get an apartment lease or a car loan or small business loan.

I mean, I think that I know we like don't have that much time to go into all of this. But I think the biggest problem for people right now that I am finding that i'm when i'm reading online with all these Young people is people are so frustrated and just exhausted with politics in general. People feel so they don't feel incentivize to vote because they feel like politicians are essentially like overpromising under delivering. Why should we trust you?

So i'll say this. Look, you can look at my career. Now, what I care about, I care about making sure that people are entitled to and receive the freedoms that they are. do.

I care about lifting? People have been making sure that you are protected from harm. I care about tapping into the ambitions and the aspirations of people, knowing that we are capable of so much.

But you can, you can't grow the strength of our country of you if you underestimate the capacity of of each person, right? Which is why another thing that i'm really focused on this is small businesses and startups and giving startups of fifty thousand dollar tax deduction because right now it's five thousand dollars and you can't start up anything. Any small business was five thousand dollars, but the bottom is this, I believe, in the promise of america.

I have not been able to be the first in every position that i've had. We're IT not for the promise of america. I believe in our country. I love our country. And I believe that leadership has to be about knowing our capacity and then investing in the people, because lifting up each person that we do is about lifting up the whole my device.

President, thank you so much for coming on holiday. IT was truly an honor.

Thank you, and thank you for your voice.