Demi Lovato (FBF)
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is all great already.

Let get started.

What is your daddy game? IT is your founding father, alex Cooper, with DMi lava. Welcome to call her daddy.

Thank you. IT is such an honor to have you here. And I want to say it's a big dealer here for many. Oh, my god, thank you of course but i've had sometimes people like, come on if they're like a the show but you were the first person I have ever had a color dad whose mom is a and of call her at, shout out demi's mom.

yes, my mom loves this fod gas and he was like, you have to say hi I was like of we .

are recording this yes just before your thirty th birthday yeah leo season what is turning thirty me to you turning .

thirty what that means to me is like to be honest, i've had a little anxiety. My twenty is were like such a mess like I was trying to figure myself out. I didn't know who I was, a lot of what happened. And then I kind of like over the past couple years of eased into who I am and then this year, I like all I know who I am. So turning thirty to me has been like i'm excited for my thirties and what that holds.

I love that and I really want to Normalized that because I feel like there's such pressure in society like when you hit thirty, like figure red IT out and it's like what thus buck no twenty days are meant to do all the fuck ups thirties is when it's like, let me come into my own and really figure my own yes, exactly. I love that.

Thank you.

You are one of the voices of our generation. I started listening to your music in middle school, crying up against the winter fully, all like hard breaks. I'm like curled up with demmy. I feel like already know you like truly, it's been a roller cosa. I feel like I literally known you first along and I still love your fucking music.

Oh, thank you.

Were you always a natural performer?

I think that a performer um no, I wasn't always a natural performer. I had some like adJusting that I had to do over time. I started performing on tour with john's brothers when I was fifteen and so and I went from my first show in june, like twenty two thousand eight, IT had like a hundred people.

To july, my first show with the johns's brothers was eighteen thousand people. So I had to, like, learn how to perform on these massive stages. And IT was super intimidating, was so nervous.

But like, I figured IT out, and I found my groove. But I have always been a vocalist like you. Singing has always come natural to me.

My first time singing on site was when I was like five, and at my talent shell, in kinder or using indians, my heart will go on. We just like one of the hardest songs to sing. But I was like, i'm going to tackle that.

I was just want to say to me, I like thinking like like may be like a pop song she's clean on. Like, tell me you just go right for the most iconic singer hard to song to saying, like classic. Okay, so someone had a little confidence back then there is going, I love that.

And my mom also, I was raised with like a read of Franklin and vocalist like that. And then when I started learning vocalists that were in um the era of when I was growing up, I was Christine agua and Kelly Clarkson and those were the singer is that I gravitated to because they did things with their voices that I couldn't and I wanted to learn how so I made in my mission and was like whoever is really, really talented, I wanted do what they do and so I just sing and sing and saying my little hard out until I could hit the same notes ism.

And then you eventually absolutely got there. So for someone watching this kind of going back to your childhood, D, A little bit, yeah, to kind of pay the picture. You're growing up and your parents split when you were really Young. Did your biological dad have any input when you began working as a kid?

no. So my biological dad, he was mentally ill and had a lot of addiction problems and so he wasn't really in my life um at all. I mean, I was the one that would reach out and call him but lake.

He was really released sick mentally. And so over the years, I slowly stopped reaching out and calling him because he was so sick. IT was hard to have conversations with him.

He was schizophrenic and he had delusions. And so our conversations went from how are you? I miss you to, i'm doing a movie with Stephen steel berg and jodie Fosters, my girlfriend.

And I like, okay, we like, can't talk anymore. And so I guarded myself from that relationship and he didn't have a say. But he was proud. He was really proud when I would talk about, he was really proud.

and there was a lot to be proud for. Technically, your star in the business was you started in pageants, right?

Yes, I started in beauty pages when I was seven. And my first, like big win, was minimum texas. Yeah, that was my introduction in them. From there I got in acting coach, and I started doing acting .

in your documentary, simply complicated. Your mom, who is a former dolls kab ys. Cheerleader, SHE acknowledges her emphasis on being skinny and being perfect affected you. Yeah, how did your moms opinion about herself affect? Your opinion about yourself will.

look, my mom had an eating disorder, and so naturally, someone that's in their eating disorder who isn't aware of IT can pass on things to their child. And so I put a lot of pressure on myself and in the beauty pageants to look a certain way. I mean, i'm going to go on the record here and say, like, beauty pageants are awful for children's self, a steam.

And like, they teach you to ignore your emotions until you go to your hotel room. And that's when you can cry IT out. And IT was this toxic environment of, like, who's more beautiful than things like that.

And at such a Young age, IT confuses you. And so over the years, I developed my own eating disorder and that blood into my career as well. When you're performing.

you have to be OK. You've got to go up there. You gotta put a smile on your face, got to make everyone else feel great. But that's not how you felt on the inside. What do you remember depression feeling like as a seven year old.

as the seven year old, when my depression started to kick in, IT was more of like this fascination of death. And for some reason I had this like understanding that life was only going to get more difficult. And so I had suicide radiation from age of seven, so much so that, like, my school called my parents and they had me sign like this contract, saying that I wouldn't do anything to myself.

And so I entered therapy and guidance counseling at the school at seven years old. And you know, it's something that I still deal with occasionally. And I just think it's a part of it's just something that i've learned to accept and manage.

Yeah when your parents got that call and you got into therapy, was there like regular checker s and because you working also at the time at a Young age like I was there a regiment of like checking in on demmy and making sure he was okay.

I was so Young that I don't really remember. And I remember the the person that actually saw the contract was my great grandmother because I was I went to her house afterwards and SHE was like, well, please don't do that. Like, are you okay? And so yeah, there is probably check ens, but I don't really remember them because I was so Young.

What was your peer dynamic when you were in school?

My peer dynamic when I was in school was difficult. You know, I was thrown from being on burney where I home schooled for like a year. Then I went back to school and i'd actually learned more when I was home schooling to wear.

Like when I went back to school, I was like helping her show the class. Like, this is what i've learned in baba. But when I went back to school, you know, there was a lot of drama.

There was a lot of that was the the six grade, seventh grade drama. That's the worst, is the absolute worst with pretty girls there. Just mean.

that age went, I persons start that first fucking aides that all goes down. What were you bullied for?

So there was this whole incident where the main weak that I was bullied, I had actually gotten the opportunity. I was already performing that like, you know, U S O basis and like little car dealerships here in there that would have like festivals on whatever. I had the opportunity to open for jojo, the singer. And this was when get out leave was like on top of the charts and as a routine we're all like, go jojo because she's orange, right? So anyway, SHE, I had the opportunity open for her, and I invited one of the girls that was in my click of friends, and I got the opportunity to go back stage and meet her after I opened for her, and the other girl did in, and I used her camera, was like, this disposable camera.

And when I got back to school, he gave me all the pictures from the show, but the one of me and George was missing, and I was like, where did that one go? And he was like, oh, IT just didn't develop and I was like, but like, I know that IT developed and you're just salty about IT so that we turned into, like, health for me. And all of a sudden IT turned.

Well, there was drama around that, the picture not showing up. But then people took sides. And I remember I was like, mean, girls, like walking into the cafeteria where, like, the popular girls hated me.

Anybody that wanted to be popular hated me. The popular guys hated me, and they have all the power in school. And at one point I was like hiding in a bathroom and I called my mom and I was like, I need to get out of here they signed a suicide petition. They passed that around and got people designer saying if you we want damage to kill yourself um and IT was just IT was awful and so and they said some mother means stuff in there that like was just really hurtful and so I ended up living in homeschoolers IT was a blessing in disguise because he gave me motivation to keep going and I also gave me all this free time after I did my school work to practice music for three, four hours a day and I did that for years.

You are kind of getting bullied, I think, because you were having success, right? Like you, we're kind of starting to make IT people were jealous at that age. They're super insecure.

We all know how that goes. But do you think you then lead into your craft? Because he was kind of like you're escape from what you've been going through? I landed into my craft.

but I also landed into my eating disorder because the reasons that they gave me for bullying where they like you're a slight, you're a horn meanwhile, i'm twelve and i've only had my first kiss and they were like in your fat and they started calling the house saying they were from Jenny crag and they wanted dame and um and so I was like what I guess that's their reason for me being hated so much I guess it's because i'm fat and I developed a needing disorder at twelve and IT was really hard but yes, at the same time I used IT as motivation like i'm gna make my name so in your face that you can never escape me again and I felt really good when that finally came true .

so you make IT to disney channel yes, which I was saying is basically, and winning an Oscar as a child like a body, are you ready? Let's watch a disy change movie. I like I, I tell I do do I would do I everything to paint the patient who was also acting on disney around that same time as you IT was .

the golden era of disney. I mean, there was one golden era where IT was like raven and hilly, and then like moved into this other golden era where was like hana on tanna had just started like a year. So before high school musical had just happened, selena was on wizards and I auditioned for the jone's brother's T.

V. show. And I was up for the role of there, like female best friend, whatever.

And I remember I didn't get IT and I was crushed. I was heart broken. But disney was like, what we wanted.

See you for these other two projects. And I was like, okay, like, I had taken the hardest know in my life. And I was just like, I don't know if I want to go addition again, but I will.

So I did. I went my dish and and I ended a book in them both. One was Sunny with the chance, and one was camp rock.

So like that for me was like, I get my own movie and my own TV show. Are you kidding? Like on disney channel. And I knew my life was about to change.

Was their competition among the the big actors on disney.

Even though i'm a competitive person, I really like quite that voice because I was like, it's not worth that. We all have our own talents and that's why I am not jealous of any artist today is because like, we all have our own lanes and someone has to fill my lane. You know.

as like a Young girl watching those shows, I was always like, demmy seems like he would like, I could be friends with her, like eating my hair in my room. Like I be friends eating my hair the most perfect. Terry, by the way.

we've already had this conversation, but IT is funny .

because you you really gave that vibe of like people and like someone that you could be friends with. IT was the best.

the kill frog things .

I was there was the wings, and you brought the wings back today, today. okay. What pieces of your personal life did disney have a say on once you started working with them?

who? So there are expectations on you to be a role model, because all of us send your threats into that position, whether you wanna be or not, like you're are on shows that kids are watching. You can't be seen at a party with a red cup in your hand because IT looks like IT could IT could be alcohol.

And people online, like there is this website called ocean APP, an ocean up, would just like take all scandalous things that we're happening to disney actors and put IT on there. And so we lived in fear of that website. IT wasn't really every disney saying, you can't do this, you can do that.

But if something happened, there would be conversations. And I will say that like that pressure of you are replaced was always there, not necessarily ever said by disney, but they didn't have to because IT was like disney is the hottest thing for teenagers to be on. And there are millions of kids that want to be in your place.

And so you have to be on your best behavior, or else, you know, there is the next girl online that can book the movie that you're supposed to be in ten. What people don't know is that the amount of work we had to do every year, I filmed a season of A T, V show, I went on tour, I made an album and I shot a movie. And I did that for like three, four years.

Thing was three. But if I had a hiatus from my show, I would have the tour bus pull up to the studio and take me on tour for one week, or I would fly to london to do promo. And I member, one day I woke up.

I was so tired and like, just drained from how much work I was doing as of sixteen year old. I woke up and I just started crying, and my mom was like, what's wrong and I was like, i'm so tired. And then SHE started crying too.

He was like me too. When I was like, this sad, kind of hilarious moment, we were like, okay, put, you know, put ourselves together. We've got to do this. And so there was this extreme workload that I think put a lot of pressure on us, and that's why some of us turn to I personally turned to, if you're gonna me like an adult, i'm in a party like an adult. And that at sixteen, seventeen wasn't healthy at all.

When you had that moment with your mom, do you wonder if he ever thought to be like, hey, like you don't have to you know.

I think my parents were also under the you know impression that someone will take your place if you don't commit to this stuff. And so i'd set down with my management and my dad, and we'd go over the schedule. And the thing was, as I was also by polar and so and I was unmedicated, so there would be times where i'd have this like all this energy.

And i'd look at my schedule, be like I could do that. Plus this is a cover of Cosmodrome. I went to do that cover of seventeen.

Like I wants to do that. I don't want to miss anything I had like major former, if I did so I just pt kept on pushing. But then by the time I would get there, i'd fAllen into like a depression and IT would be really hard to work at that age.

Technical at sixteen, you are the thing that's making all the money for all the people around you and have used up at all ends.

And also at a certain point, I was for the roof over my whole family's had, and my dad had quit his jo B2Become my man ager. So IT was, income was coming from me. My mom was a seat home.

Mom, didn't you know, wasn't reliant on what I mean kind of was. But IT was just that pressure of like i'm paying for everything and like I need to keep going because of things start to disappear. So does the finance is so you reference .

if I am going to be treated like an adult, i'm going to party like an adult. At what point in your disney career did you begin experimenting with drugs?

So you reference, if I am going to be treated like an adult, i'm going to party like an adult. Yes, at what point in your disney career did you begin experimenting with drugs?

So I started experimenting for the first time. When I was twelve, I gotten to earth thirteen, I gotten to a car accident, and they prescribed me obvious. And my mom didn't think that she'd have to, like, lock up the opiate from her thirteen year old daughter.

But like, I was already drinking at that point. I was, you know, had been bullied, was looking for an escape. And when my mom saw how many of the pills had disappeared in our fast, they did.

He took him away, locked him up. But yeah, I I drink a lot in my teenagers. And then IT wasn't til I was about seventeen that I started to move.

That's not even true. Like there were times where i'd get certain kinds of pills throughout like fifteen. Sixteen is still my mom's sound acat, a sound exodus in lake. So IT was often I and then at seventeen, as when IT kind of was the first time, like I I tried coke and lake loved IT too much, and then that kind of bled into me going to treatment. Like right when, right after I turned eighteen.

when you were drinking, were you drinking a loan or were you going out places?

My first time drinking, I was alone and that was like, short have been a major red flag. I like still beer from my dad. The fridge may stepped dad and like took IT to my room and drank k like four beers just to see what I was like to feel drunk and like I was like a little ninety pound you know, girl said I was a law and then I started being with like friends and IT was not IT wasn't ever alone after that but that was my first time when you're kind of .

at this age where you start to kinder experiment your drinking and everything did not only your parents but like management and public its did people know you were drinking and doing drugs.

When I came to management attention that I had been doing pills, they definitely relate this can't happen and like what's going on and doing you do to get you help and I was really got a convincing people like, no, it's just like, you know, I had hard time sleeping and bob blair, i'd make up excuses. And finally, when I got to a point where IT was clear that I needed help and I needed to go away, everyone was really supportive of IT because I had been, like, kind of A A long time coming.

So thinking about the whole disney era, I there was a major wave of purity ring wearing. I think he was, I can say, with the straight way. So there is like, holy fuck.

Oh, no fun. intended. No, but intended. There was a huge wave of current ringwood ing among ears what the fuck was out about.

So I think IT was just my purity. I had a puri d ring that came from my church like way before disney channel even happened. I was like eleven or twelve and like, obviously that's not that shouldn't have even been implemented on eleven or twelve year olds but I was like, okay, like i'll i'll do this, whatever.

That quickly went out the window at a certain point. And then I left the others to have their purity adventures on their own. But I mean, to each their own, I don't know. IT was an interesting thing to come out publicly and say IT really .

was because I remember being that age and like, I should have been apparently wear when I was a catholic at the time. God, I mean, like burn. But i'm like, why are people wearing these things? And IT was so such an interesting IT. Almost at the time when I look back on, IT really felt like the disney kids that we're getting older and I felt like a way to like really cement like no, we're really good kids and we don't do anything bad. And I take look at my look at my finger er like h they were a pity.

right? I don't I don't know. Like I had one and I think I talked about IT like once, but like and IT caught a little bit of fire, but I definitely not as much as the other people wearing them. And I quickly hushed about that when I started having, because I was like, I lost IT. I don't know .

where why I broke. I think I like.

I think I actually literally broke because I was so cheap. And then I was like, well.

this is not my side. go.

Here we go.

Have you ever SAT down? And discussed the chAllenges of being inside this disney machine with people like selena, go, maz, miley sias, the jonas brothers.

I think over the years, like we talked about IT for sure, but I do have a project in the works where I want to talk to some of those people about their experiences. Other child are as well.

kind of we're talking about earlier. There are all these systems in place in your life, everyone, you know, they're taking care of your career with you and then well into adult hood. Your personal life was also being controlled by people that were managing your .

career demmy.

In what ways was your team controlling your life?

There was someone that came into the picture and. When they came under the picture, everything in my life was controlled. I started having a sober companion, which was helpful for me, but IT should not have lasted three years.

And then IT became controlling around my food. And for someone in recovery from an eating disorder that's so dangerous, IT actually exasperated a beginning disorder to the point where I became blic again from twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen. I was dealing with that.

And we're talking like, i've never talked about this before. But there was one time where I had benge merged one night, and I came cleaned to my team and said, hey, this happened. You know, I snuck out of my hotel room because they didn't let me have phones in my hotel room because they don't want me at to call the room service.

I didn't have food and my hotel room like snacks in the mini bar because they didn't want me to eat the snacks. Allen talked about this on her show, where they cleared the dressing room of like all sugar before I would get in there. SHE was like, I remember that.

And they, after I told them what had happened, my security guard walked by my room or was made aware that they had built. They, like, barricaded me end to my hotel, and they put furniture outside of my doors so that I couldn't get out and sneak out and eat if I wanted to. And so IT was that level of controlling when I came to my food, which just made my eating disorder worse.

One time I said, I am furring up blood. I need to go to treatment. I need to get help. And this was in like, twenty seventeen and this person looked at me inside.

You're not sad enough and I think that was his way of saying, like, no, you're not going back to treatment because if you do this to look bad on me and so I didn't I didn't go back into treatment and you know, less than a year later, I ended up overdosing. And so I think I was just like I felt trapped. I thought like I couldn't get out of the situation.

And my way of lake blowing everything up was relaxing on drugs and alcohol because they always said, if you use were out and I was like, all right, time to get out. I've learned a lot from that experience, like no one can control me anymore. And I was under the control for from eighteen to twenty five.

And those are years. We are trying to figure out your adult od, you know, you're no longer a teenager, but for some reason I had people controlling everything. I ate, you know, my business decisions were always being made for me.

And now I found my voice. No one can ever do that to me again. And I feel empowered by what I went through because I had to grow when I had to learn to accept that i'm my own boss.

When you just to clarify, when you're referencing this person is basically trying to keep you from eating its ford the image to make sure you look then yeah which helps their career yet and their income. Can you talk a little bit about mentally why so hard to push away from people that get their claws in you in that position?

Yeah absolutely. I would even go so far as to say like there was a brain washing element to a where you were totally under the impression that if I don't listen to this person who knows so much about recovery, i'm gonna lose everything. And so you put all of your trust in your faith into one person.

And then from that, everyone around me listens to that one person, and they go with that. You know, if if this person says this is what IT is and this is how I should be, that we listen to them. And then IT became IT got to the point, like, if they didn't like a chef that I had, they would sit me down and say, like, we don't like the chef that you have. We think that we you should try someone else until I would say, okay, like I wouldn't. I just put all of my trust in faith in, you know, end of people around me that I think didn't have my best interest at her. The reason why they didn't like that chef that I had was because the chef told me they said they read your bank statements to see what you order at starbucks to make sure you're not getting like cookies or pastries or things like that and when I found that out, I told them and then they were like, we don't like your chef and I was like, oh, you you realized that that she's the one that told me hearing .

you talk about this IT does sound not like a version of what Britney here went through, right? Like the controlling and the yet the micro managing to the point where you don't even have control of her your own life, right? I can imagine how alone you felt when you said, like they had said, if I use, then they were gone and then I use and in a way was almost like you're cry for help of I get the fuck away, right? A lot of people don't understand the side of the world. And I think why I love having you on right now because people we get headlines, e news says something about and it's like we don't understand what you as a human being are going through and people are so ruthless to quickly make a judgment of like, well, she's got all the money in the world so her level and it's like, listen to what you're saying right now, like this is a nightmare.

right? And I couldn't talk about IT. I felt trapped. And you know, I don't know how many people have gone through that situation, but IT is IT is really sad.

In a mussel article, you asked the question, what do I want my relationship with my manager to look like without a mashing my own father issues onto him? What did you mean by that? How were your father issues affecting your relationship with your manager?

I had such interesting relationships with my dads, and the abandonment issue from my birth father was so deeply rooted inside of me that when I came to management, like I put, I pleased that fatherly figure role on to him and onto the other person that I have mentioned. And so I went looking for a new manager. I wanted to find someone that I don't place that fatherly figure, aren't you? And that it's just business.

In your documentary, dancing with the devil, yes, you reveal your virginity was taken from you. Yeah, you were raped. Is IT possible to heal from an experience like that.

I think in a way, time can heal wins, maybe not all of them. The more time that is gone by, the easier IT has gone ten. But there are still a sadness, a deep sadness inside of me, that someone took that from me at such Young age and IT was hard because this person was also a round like they were also on disney and so um seeing them around was was difficult and IT really messed up may my teenage years and finally I went got help for that and IT means something that i've worked done. But you know, i've had other traumas happen and a kind of pushes those to decide a little bit.

But there are moments where I like, I definitely will cry and just feel the sadness inside of me because you know that healthier to do rather than bottle IT up, but just will allow myself to have those moments of like, that was really sad. What happened to you and your a fighter like you can get through IT? I mean, I can .

imagine at that Young of an age having to still have someone be on disney and having to see someone that did that to you. I mean, you are a survivor. Thank you.

And to be clear, like IT, wasn't anyone in the immediate disney circle? You know, like IT, i've had people ask, you know, questions of, like was this person or was of a percent and I was like, I don't think it'd be anybody that anyone would guess, but they were friends with someone on set and they'd come around and yeah .

so many people, especially Young women, listen to my podcast that have been sexually assaulted and its a really it's complicated if you've never been through IT, how do you give someone advice on that? right? And so where have you generated the string to keep going through trauma?

I think that I ve just had a lot of trauma in my life and there's a persistence, a determination inside of me and I I think I learned that from like the bullies experience of like you can turn this around and make IT into something great. And i'm not saying that i've turned sexual assault into anything great, but you know, I i've written about IT in music i've healed from and it's just made me stronger.

You are so fucking strong and IT is in all over your new album. Thank you. I was listening to IT in my car. I got, I got the best place to listen to new music yourself. You're listening and you're just like so first of I just want to say am a huge fan of your new although thank you holy fuck you, dame. I need to know how this album reflect where you are in your life right now.

who this album IT reflects this album like actually there's a journey to IT. So like in the beginning of the album, you can hear my anger.

You can hear like I left treatment in um december this last year getting help again and i'm sober again and I feel great but like there was all these emotions that I left treatment with and I wanted to convey them in my music and so the first few songs are like really angry and it's like this is who I am take IT or leave at I know what you're saying about me online like deme leaves we have again like I I see you, I hear you. And then as I started to heal, I was like, you know what? I'm actually like getting happier. And I was owning my sexuality and a lot of the songs. And then my album became like, so it's like angry, then like sex, and then like love songs.

Your songs are incredibly personal and you always give insight into your life. And I think that's why your fans are obsessed with you. It's because you're like you put IT all out there and that's why we love demipho. It's and and I appreciate that because you know, sometimes we don't get a lot from people and you're like, this is me, this is me, this is me but I god, everything stop, Alice. But I I appreciate that. And in the tone of one of the songs, like you are fucking fighting and you're like, I have something to say and i'm going to address IT as I always address my journey and and I always talk about what the fuck i'm going through and why would this be any fuck in different in album? The song twenty nine, yes, what inspired you to write this song?

I went to treatment after turning twenty nine. I did a lot of work on myself, and I had this realization when I turned twenty nine. But I came out of treatment with anger. I came out of treatment with understanding and growth. And so IT was like a reflective song for me and even though there's undertones of anger was like I really learned a lot about that experience and I decided to write about IT to .

anyone that hasn't listened to the song. You need to go listen to IT just .

a couple .

of the lions to give them too Young to drink wine just five years of leader student and a teacher, far from innocent. What the fuck is consent numbers told you not to, but that didn't stop you. Now i'm finally twenty nine. Funny, just like you were at the time, what do you hope people take away from these lyrics?

If you're a Young girl and you think that it's sexier fun to date older men, it's not okay unless you're of age, it's portrayed as like, oh, you scored someone older, that's cool and it's like actually that's weird. So it's just like a reflective moment of like if you are in that situation, just listen to this song and and like kind of think about IT.

how did you decide to release .

IT as a single? Well, IT was hard. IT was really hard for me to release this as a single because it's so emotional for me and so personal. But I think sometimes the public needs the truth, and that's why I decided to really that as a single because I think the message is so important.

What is your favorite song on the album to have sex to .

first favorite first? Well, I don't have sex to my own music.

Let me come on.

I'll have sex to music. Go for IT. Go for I feel I would feel weird about if if I had .

what of people listening, which songs should they fuck .

to ah well that depends if you're trying to be like like ual and dual listen to come together. If you're trying to like bang out, bang IT out you know if you're trying to banging IT out, listen to bones. Bones is like, it's like, I wanted jump your bones. That's the hook.

We are not in disneyland. Any that fucking love to you are fucking back with the government. I'm obsess aking of sex. Yeah, just a little tea. Are you dating anyone?

I, yeah, i'm dating somebody. Look at that.

Okay, we don't need like two meats but like, yeah, how is that going and what's the vive?

It's going really well. yeah. Can I say .

that is your is my looking at your team?

It's my life. Yeah, it's going really well.

Yeah okay, when you are dating someone, what is the most important thing you look for in a partner?

I have to laugh like someone i've been i've dated people that were beautiful or you know sexy and it's like, um I still am like that the person of dating is so high and so sexy and I i'm obsessed but like I the most important thing is like eventually over time you know we grow old and looks fade in things like that like you have to find someone that completely understands you but most importantly to me makes me laugh.

I am like, so happy for you because I can tell it's like fresh and it's great because you are fully fully blushing. You're like, so let me knew you. We don't bucking, ask for permission why're not saying .

names .

you are unless you want to says me. Okay, you're going to go on tour.

right? Yes, so excited that .

hard to date while you're on tour.

I found that it's actually kind of easy if you make sure that you see each other like OK once every two, three week o it's important to like and it's also face time. Like face time is really helpful and i'm sure like it's like I think what's gona suck is being away from the person that you're dating but like ultimately a kind of builds anticipation to for when you do see them. And it's like so exciting, so exciting.

And I think it's also the test of like if you can make IT through that, yes, like that's a great strength build core exercise of okay, when you go on tour, what are you looking like most forward to when you're going on this upcoming tour?

Rocking out because I did, you know, the pop music and kind of RMB pop, which was fine, but also at the same time, I felt like I wasn't me, like I was trying too hard to be a sexy and I was in the little leotards and the, you know, still leto heals, and I wasn't comfortable. And so I want to be comfortable and in the stage, and I will be, and I can just completely be myself, which is gonna so exciting.

Will we be seeing, like a little old demmy music vibe also on tour?

Old music? Yes, you will definitely. Because that matches the sound. And i've also, which is the most exciting, i've also turns like my hits into the style of music that i'm doing today.

So like, you know, cool for the summer sounds totally different. Heart attack sounds totally different. Confidence sounds totally different.

And it's like it's so excited. Sorry, not sorry, like all of those songs sounds totally different. And i'm like so excited for everyone to hear that.

You know, I started out with really great instincts on how to be myself. And I straight away from IT because I wanted, I wanted hit, I wanted what people wanted to hear. And so I lost myself for a long period of time when I came to me musically. And i've never had an experience in the studio like i've had making this album where it's just so fulfilling so myself and it's just so funded. Sing, and I can't wait to reform IT devoto.

thank you so much for coming and all .

her that thank you. Thank you so much.