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LeBron James may have played his last game ever, and he went out with a bang. A video shows him confronting a female fan courtside, leading to a discussion about fan behavior and LeBron's legacy.
  • LeBron James potentially played his last game.
  • A video showed him telling off a courtside fan.
  • The hosts debate whether this moment impacts his legacy.

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What's up everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. I know you guys are tuning in so we can talk about what's happening in these protests at college campuses all over the world. I know that's the discussion that you want to listen to. I know while you're sitting at work trying to get a little bit of distraction, you just want to hear about college kids. That's all you want. Yeah, you just want to hear what they have to say about the world. You need that. You need it. You need that, but you know what we're going to talk about? LeBron James putting this white bitch in her place because she was shooken.

There's a great video, which I'm sure all of you have seen, but I've never loved LeBron so much. That was his victory lap for me. Awesome. You know when you have that one season that Kobe had where everybody says goodbye? You can't beat that. You go out on top. That is LeBron going out on top for me. Some white woman in the audience. These white ladies have gotten way too comfortable talking to athletes. But there's one thing about dudes talking to athletes because you're aware that

that after you know shout out to Ron Artest Ron came to the show in LA by the way and he's like the most sweet adorable kind guy but I was hanging with him and I was like you can go south at any minute at any minute you say the wrong thing boom you don't even have to say it he can punch someone else that's it that's it so so basically guys know now if you talk shit there is a potential outcome where you get fucked up and women know that there is or believe that there is no potential outcome

And that moment right there was just precious. Like he must have been so infuriated. The girl's like five, six. And he literally just goes, you can't even do that to your wife. This is so infuriating. Like you're the greatest player on earth. Arguably top two, maybe one ever. And some fucking idiot girl is just doing this to you. And it's like, you don't even know basketball. When did White Chicks get so comfortable at basketball games?

So they've been dating all the players, I think. Yeah, they must be. That is funny. Maybe LeBron dropped a load on her back in the day and she's still upset about it. She finally worked her way back onto the front. She's on the floor. What a wasted ticket. This is a closeout game and there's a lady that doesn't know the rules that is on the front. Maybe she's the girl from that Jamal Murray video. What is that? The one where Jamal Murray's getting head? I thought it was Patrick Mahomes getting the head.

No. This whole time, I thought Patrick Mahomes' wife was the one that was doing that, and I was like, I get it. I swear to God, I was like, I get it. I was like, she's a little bit, you know... We watched it on the podcast. No, I remember exactly. She was getting crazy dome, but my brain switched it to Patrick Mahomes, and any time she would be like a little bit too gregarious, I'd be like, yeah, but the head is crazy. That's Alex Erle, dog. What's going on? That's nuts. Anyway...

Yeah, we're not going to watch that shit in slow-mo as well. Anyway, so the fact that LeBron does this in most likely his final game, I mean, he has a, his career is stainless, right? That's what you always say. Like there's not a single thing he's done wrong in his entire career. This is potentially his last game.

if he just Sparta kicked that girl in the chest, would it diminish his reputation at all or would it elevate him? Elevate, elevate. This is fantastic. And think about what he would have done for us. Now we don't have to bring our wives courtside. My wife actually asked me, my wife was like, hey, if you get courtside tickets, who are you going to bring? And I looked at her, I was like,

Don't even think about it. There's like a list of five people that are sitting next to me before you, and like my dad, Jameel, Jason. I have a doorman who likes the Knicks kind of. Like there's multiple people that I'm bringing before you. Who likes the Knicks kind of. Kind of.

This is not his last game because he's going to want to play with his son. But this is maybe the tune-up. And then last game with his son, Sparta kick right in the face. See you later. Oh, my God. Even LeBron. I was looking at the comments. Even people who hate LeBron were like, nah, I gotta hand it to him. That shit is hilarious. Because there's a scene also afterward or there's a part of the video where he's looking at her. He calls her a scary ass. He starts laughing at her. And he does this. And then he's like, monster. It's so good. I'm trying to understand culturally, though. Like, okay.

I understand women are more into sports and Caitlin Clark and the NCAA. Everybody's blowing it up, right? And don't get me wrong, being at a game is fun even if you don't know the rules. I would still enjoy going to a soccer game. I don't know exactly what's going on. I don't know the fucking plays. But I don't think I would be on the front lines...

talking shit because they can't get hit. Dude, I watched the Super Bowl with some people. It's playoff time. It's crazy. Anything goes playoff. Wait, what do you mean? Like, I feel like everybody's talking shit and so she's just trying to be like a fan. So it's mob mentality. Yeah, she realized. So yeah, this is what's happening at the university. We're back to it. We satisfied what you guys need from the pod today.

Okay, so you're just so caught up in it. It's a home game. You're winning. It's a closeout. Yeah. And everybody else around you is talking shit, so you start to think it's okay. And there's no repercussions. Yeah. Because even when we do talk shit, none of us have been close enough where it matters. Yeah. You're not climbing up to the 300s to get to that. Yeah, yeah.

It's fine. Yeah, yeah. The shit talk should get more polite the closer you get. Even though Rod Artest kind of went up into them stands. He went to like, Robbie like wrote this. You're the wrong guy. Imagine reading the article and you're like, someone in the 100 aisle, you're like, the 100? It's fine.

Same zone, right? The 100s. He threw that beer, though. It wasn't him that threw the beer, but it was close enough for somebody to throw a beer. I believe that. There should be a, as a little guy, there's a line I don't cross because I could get fucked up. And I'm aware of this at all times. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When no one has that governor, that's when women are fucking doing that. Arguably the greatest player of all time. You need a fucking... Security should just do that shit every once in a while. What is going on inside, right? This is the guy who's been so polished. His image has been so curated and he's never really fucked up. People saw him reading the book upside down or doing these types of things, but

all of those decisions he made were to put out the most perfect, pristine product. And in the final game, there's some chunky white bitch that looks like the chick got kicked off the plane. And he's like, nah, she gonna get the pump thing. Because I think he was frustrated at the game. The Denver Nuggets are just better no matter how well the Lakers play. The Nuggets just always seem to win. And he was like, I'm fucking frustrated. Refs aren't giving me the calls I want. And this white bitch is talking to me? You're

already got the dove coming, bitch. Fuck you. You know what's funny? If she was black, he's not pumping. No chance. She wouldn't have flinched. Because she fighting. Taking off a heel. You think Jordan would have done this? Bro, I don't think... Wait a minute. Let me actually back up. Was Jordan so... It's kind of become like trendy to hate LeBron a little bit among certain people. Yeah, of course. I imagine her like... Actually, hold up.

If she's like the wife of the owner, I wonder if that gives her a little bit more leeway with the shit talk because like she's got a lot riding on this as well.

- Hmm. - Okay, maybe not. Let me see, let me think, let me think about it. - If she was the wife of the owner, we also would have heard it by now. - True, true, true. But it's become like socially trendy to like hate on LeBron, like because the internet exists, so all the opinions are out and then you don't feel alone with your opinion. You're like, okay, I'm comfortable doing this. Where back in the day, even if there was anti-Jordan sentiment,

Where would it exist? Sports Illustrated tried it once, and then they never got an interview again. Oh, really? I didn't know that. Oh, dude, when he played baseball, they had a cover story that said, Bag It, Michael. And it's like, the greatest player ever is playing baseball. Why? Or something like that. And then he never did Sports Illustrated again. That was when he was playing baseball. He came back, won three more chips, and was like, you're getting nothing from me. And at the time, Sports Illustrated was the biggest magazine. Everything. I would argue Sports Illustrated was bigger than, like,

any newspaper coverage on sports right absolutely not even like that yeah it's yeah it's like uh yeah i don't even know what you would compare a magazine to now like the biggest meme page yeah bleacher report yeah yeah okay so and then espn is like this guy's giving us all our views and ratings we're not shitting on him the nba is gonna protect him so like i don't know if anybody new yorkers hated him because he would kill us yeah but outside of that

It was like... And with no social media, he didn't have to... Like, LeBron has to be out in front of the camera to help protect the brand, and we're so cognizant. He didn't have to do any of that. So he could just fall back, say generic shit in interviews, and get out. And then you had no idea what he was really like. Yes, all this sentiment existed for these people. Like, the same thing with Taylor Swift. Like...

I'm sure there's an artist back in the day, Michael Jackson, that there's probably sentiment that existed for Michael, but it couldn't really... Galvanize. Yeah, like where would it exist? Yeah. You know what I think a little bit is different? Back in the 90s was like real fouling.

Now they do a lot of the crying and pussy calls and shit like that. So that's what she was mocking them for, the crying. They didn't do flopping back in the day. But flopping, early 2000s, you fell, you fell. Early 2000s, there was flopping. Rest in peace, Kobe would flop. But it was like, nobody cared enough about Twitter. People would criticize him. But you know what flopping came in the league? When the Euros would come in. Euro, 1,000%. Did it really? Dirk was my favorite.

I'm average, but he flopped horribly. Even before dirt. Vladi. Vladi. Oh, I hated that moment. So like the Euros brought the- Like from like soccer culture? Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, yeah. And it was effective. Yeah. Like they would get calls and the refs didn't know what to do because they're seeing seven foot masculine men go like this and they're like, it must have been a foul. Yeah.

Like no one would act gay on purpose. This is the 90s. So they got every single call and they literally had to like reconfigure their brains to how, you know, these players' bodies would move. Like you see Joel Embiid, who is like, I mean, the guy is the most frustrating player to watch. Fuck Joel Embiid. So here's the thing. I'll say two things.

He's the most frustrating player to watch because he does all the annoying tries for foul shit that James Harden does, but he's in slow motion, so he's not interesting when he does it. That being said, his IQ is out the fucking wazoo. Like, he is...

I've never seen a seven footer that has that type of game IQ. Yeah. Like to be able in a moment go, okay, I'm going for foul or okay, I'm creating separation and shoot. Like it's, he's annoying to watch and we're playing him and it drives me fucking crazy. But I'm also like, if he was on our team, I'd be like, well, that's fundamentals. And he might be coming to your team and it would be perfect with Jalen Brunson in the fourth. So I got to be very careful. Yeah. You know what I mean? But you got to clear that Bell's palsy up. Motherfucker got a disease from the 1800s. I think,

Did you hear this? No. They're like, yo, he goes, they go. Half of your face is paralyzed. I think half his body maybe. Son, they're saying. Oh, that should make some look meaner. I like that shit. He touched it up. You got Harvey Dent, right? During the interviews, he's just mean mucking niggas. Like, keep that up. I like that. Son, I saw him talking shit and then I saw he wears Skechers.

And I was like, nah, we can't lose a motherfucker to wear Skechers, bro. That shit would be heartbreaking, dog. You can't do it. Nah, but you saw when he was on the floor and he, like, tried to grab dude. Yeah. That shit was a little crazy. Nah, he should be kicked out for that. Yeah. Mitchell Robinson, who sat out last game because of it, like, jumped up and he grabbed him. He kind of, like, bent his leg. He had a couple flagrants. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah. But they don't want to ruin the season. Yeah, I know. And that would be the fucking series for sure. Yeah. But, um...

Yo, it's terrifying. But we're going to close it out tonight. Yo, Knicks. That's right. We're recording this on Tuesday right now. Knicks, you got to keep doing what you're doing. Al, I'm not ever going to refer to you as a Knicks fan. You're a Knicks fan. You've had season tickets. This guy is a fucking loser. He's such a fucking loser. I hate him so much. You've had season tickets, unattended seats for years. But...

Fuck both of you guys. Fuck you more, though. Wow. At least he had season tickets. When was the last time you showed a game before this? He's rich. What the fuck? Go to the 300. How many Drake concerts have you been to in the last three years? How many Nick's? I'm into 17 Drake concerts. It's not a single Nick game. Mouse, I got Mouse. Shout out to Mouse Jones. Shout out Mouse. He's so funny. He was open for me. He was like, yo, I went to the Drake concert. I saw Al.

This N-word knew every word to every Drake song that came on. He had his nails painted. I was like, I don't know this N-word. I think it was there too, so I'll say it. Yeah, but you're a Drake fan. I'm a Drake fan. Kudos to you. You're not a Knicks fan. I'm a Knicks fan. I went to two Knicks games. One was in L.A. One was here.

You're a fucking loser. Nah, but this season I went to two games. That's more than you did, more than he did. No, I'm not a Knicks fan. All right, so boom. Listen, we're busy and also, you know, this is a tricky one this year. Uh,

Oh, yeah, yeah. This is a tricky one. They're going to close out today. They're going to close out today. Third game of the season. You know what's funny is that so we got the shows this weekend, obviously, MSG. And I remember when I was booking the shows, they said, listen, there's a chance that the Knicks make a late playoff run that you could potentially get bumped out of your dates. Is that a risk you're willing to take? And I remember saying to the person at MSG on the phone, I go, I've been a Knicks fan my whole life.

I've never been more comfortable with this risk. I said, book the goddamn shows. Ain't no fucking way. Oh, my God. Some six-foot light-skinned motherfucker's going to come in and drop 50 every goddamn game. Unbelievable. Bro, my mom called me. She was like, yeah, so I see that there's a playoff game on the same day as the show. What's up with that? And I was like, oh, well, they have it double booked because if the game doesn't happen, then the show happens, da-da-da. And she goes, so the games are just rigged?

I love it. I was like, what? I love it. She's like, well, they already know the outcome of the games because they're not going to, like, it makes no sense for you to put two things on the same day. Like, once you believe that everything is conspiracy, everything does become conspiracy. She got a good point. It's a great point. I was like, aren't these fucking rigged? I mean, it is rigged to the point that Joel Embiid didn't get kicked out the fucking series immediately after injured, and you saw him kick Homeboy as well. Yeah. Yeah, that was foul. That was dirty. That's just, like, some rough play.

That was cool. The nut kick? Yeah, the nut kick was crazy. I think like a hard foul or like, I'm okay with it, but a nut kick is weird. Like, I don't think he was strictly going for the nuts. He was just trying to... Create contact. Yeah, just hit him a little bit. That, I don't mind. That's playoff ball. But the shit on the floor, like that, he could have hurt him and then that would have...

fucked our whole season. Son, I love it when New York is... Yeah, yo. Oh, my God. No, the city... I've never lived here when the Knicks were good. The city's gonna be... I remember Lynn Sanity, the city was buzzing. Bro. That was all... The only taste I ever got was... Blackview was not punching Asians for two weeks. Wow. Really? Yup. Wow. There was a combo. There was a combo. They made a long time and Cody died. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

But no, Linsanity was crazy. It's really because outside of like Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, the only sport all of us play growing up is basketball. And Puerto Ricans and Dominicans will hoop a little bit, but usually they play baseball. White people in New York don't play anything but basketball. Black people don't play nothing but basketball. That's the only sport. I've never heard a high school football conversation in New York. Soccer isn't even there. Yeah. So the whole city only cares about one thing. So it is the closest...

in my opinion, to Europeans with football. And that there's one...

that the city cares about. Whereas like when you start going down South, they like football, they play golf. There's all these other activities that people can play. I don't even think New Yorkers fuck with baseball like that that much. I think when the Yankees win, it's mostly people from like Long Island and Jersey that come down. The one pushback I'll give you, your point stands, but in terms of having something else to root for, like in Alabama, the only thing they can possibly root for is college football, basketball,

Alabama University. I think that is like soccer in Europe. Yeah. They play everything, but that's all we have to root for. And specifically, they might not even know the players on the team, but they love the team. And in Europe, they might not even know the players on the team, but they love the team. It might not even be a good team. It don't matter. Third division. Brian Simpson, shout out to Brian. I saw him at the mothership, finally got to meet him, but he was saying he did shows in Huntsville and he's like,

And these are like the smartest people in Alabama. The NASA center is there. And he's like, one fucking roll tide can ruin your show for 20 goddamn minutes. I'm like, you know what?

One fucking idiot going, roll tide. Then everybody says roll tide or whatever the other part of the chant is. And it just goes like nonstop. One person, one person, one person. He's like literally 45 minutes, 25 minutes of my show was that out of 45. Roll tide. No, whatever the fuck the other part is. And they just, what is it? Well, the other team is War Eagle.

Roll Tide, War Eagle. Roll Tide, Roll Tide, War Eagle. It's just unbelievable. He's like, nothing. The more you love your team, the less creative the song needs to be. Like the Knicks had a song and the lyrics were, go New York, go New York, go. And that shit, you couldn't tell us wasn't the most fire song ever written. But it's still fire. It's still fire. I remember that shit would come on.

Go New York, go New York, go! That sucks. There's three words in that whole song! Stop it. That shit is hard. It's fired. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That shit is hard. It's very 90s. It was a white dude rapping it. It was? Vanell Ice had Go Ninja, Go Ninja, Go in the Ninja Turtles soundtrack. But I remember that one. Y'all just spun that off. Made it your own. But there was a white dude that rapped this one.

And I try to find it on Instagram all the time, like to add to whatever, and it's not there. But I'm almost positive. This is going to make me like the song less, but. Man, come on. You don't like the Knicks or the song. Stop it. I like it. I've always been a Knicks fan. We jinxing the Knicks right now. We got to stop talking about them. We jinxing them. Yeah, let's go. Y'all there. Y'all there. Massey Itzler. Oh, yeah. This is a. How the fuck did he get credit for writing the greatest hype song in history? He's the guy that sells that big calendar.

Oh, yeah. You've seen him on Instagram. He's like a productivity guru at this point. Is this Humans of New York? That's Humans of New York? No, no, no. I like that. That's a good... I'm trying. Speaking of Humans of New York, do you see the cheese ball eater guy? No. Oh, so funny. You didn't see that? No, tell me. This guy had put up a giant poster all over the city. He's like, on April 27th, I'm going to be in Washington Square Park and I'm going to eat a whole thing of cheese balls. A whole bucket of cheese balls. You know, the big ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you just had burgers all over. He literally just went out to Washington Square Park and like five...

100 people. No fucking way. 1,000 people show up. And they're like, they're just chanting. They have signs. They're like ready for him. He's just standing there on a little bucket. Eat cheese balls, eat cheese balls, eat cheese balls, eat. And they go nuts. And does he finish the entire thing? He finishes the whole thing. Like a Costco-sized container. Yeah, exactly. And it was just like a little New York moment, dude. It was awesome. It was like the nicest day of the year. New York's the shit. New York is back. New York's the best. Isn't that...

Isn't that awesome? That no matter what happens in a city, in New York City, you could call it a New York moment and then it makes sense. Like, that's not a New York moment. Yeah.

A guy eating a cheese ball bucket in New York. But Mark was like, it was just a New York moment. And I didn't even catch it. I was like, it is. It's the greatest city. What a city of cheese balls to get in here. That's a very good point. New York moment would have been if he got robbed for his cheese ball. Yeah, dude. There's like a thousand people in Union Square. Genius marketing, dude. And he just stands there and eats the whole shit. There's like music playing. People are like selling merchandise. Is he a minority? He didn't show his face the whole time. No. Is he a white or is he a minority? He's got to be a white man.

But now the hands look a little Puerto Rican. No, but he's doing it for the love. Yeah, Puerto Ricans like cheese balls the most, I think.

But dude, this is just insane. He's like doing it, like hype. Nice, James. One by one. Brilliant. Guys, tour dates. Bunch just added. So hurry up and buy your tickets. May 31st and June 1st, St. Louis, Missouri. June 7th and 8th, Indianapolis. June 21st and 22nd, Raleigh. Here's a bunch of new dates coming. June 28th and 29th, Buffalo. July 26th and 27th, Jacksonville. September 6th and 7th, Vegas. Whores come through. September 12th through 14th, Miami.

And September 19th through 21st, Timonium. And that last, also probably the September 28th and 29th, Greenville, South Carolina. Guys, get your tickets at akashsingh.com. Thank you guys so much. We're just having a fucking fantastic time with these shows. We're selling them out. Thank you to everybody who came through, everybody who watched Gaslit. I appreciate y'all. I love y'all. Akashsingh.com for tickets to these dates. And I'll see you at the Garden to watch our boy Schultzy. Let's get back to the show. Yo, I think I could talk about this now, but...

This is a crazy weekend. Obviously, MSG is Friday, Saturday. Fire. Fire.

And then Sunday, I'm going out to LA. You guys all know, but we could tell the boys, the asshole army, to roast Tom Brady, man. That Netflix roast. That's fire. I'm excited for that one. That's going to be cool. You ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw Tony working some shit out at Mothership. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah. Tony's going to be there. There's going to be Kevin Hart hosting it. There's going to be a bunch of other people there. They told me...

They told me I can't really talk about... I feel like everyone's going to be there. If Tom Brady's getting roasted, how hard are you going? Here's the thing. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. How hard? No, no, it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. It's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's live. Yeah, buddy. So you just, you know, you go for it. I think it's a horrible decision by Netflix.

Yeah, I mean, I've told him this. It's just like with roast, you're going to have fucking NFL players reading. Like that's never a good combo. So it's just like, why would you, why would you do this live? You film it, then edit it down to the best version and then put it out. They're doing a few live things. They really are leaning into the live. Cat Williams special is going to be live, which I think Cat will knock that out of the park. But still like Chris Rock,

walked off upset if you saw the live. He was upset about a couple lines he fucked up. Why not just edit? Yeah, but for their argument for the rock thing, it was like the most viewed thing that they've ever had. It was a big moment. So I understand where they're coming from. There's going to be excitement, but I also think roasting Tom in general is just going to be such a crazy thing that people would watch that you could film it and then put it out a week later and it wouldn't make any difference at all. My opinion.

But yeah, it'll be fun. Now, they got me going last, which is the worst position. It's not like a... You're going cleaner. So here's the thing. It's respectful. I'm like, oh, that's cool, but I don't care to go last. I'm not like, you've got to put me at the end. The reason why you don't want to go last is because you lose jokes throughout the whole thing. Lisa Lampanelli talked to me about this. I randomly talked to her backstage at a show for a couple hours, and she said when she was going last at the roast, and she's like, so many comics wouldn't want to go last, so I would have

to. Yeah, no comic wants to go last. Think of all the jokes that are getting done. She's like, you have your list and you're just scratching. You invariably are scratching off so many jokes. You're like, well, I can't do that. Or they hit the same Giselle joke 50 times or whatever. And you're like, well, fuck, now I gotta do something different. So are you talking with the other comedians in terms of like what

Bars they got? I think that that should be what the show does, but there's no real process for that, and then people don't really share. The comedians aren't going to be honest. They're going to keep their shit in the tub. If I was doing it, I would have everybody...

submit to like an entity what you're gonna do and then that entity would filter out and make a decision and be like hey there's crossover here let's not like that would make the best show especially if you're gonna do live but it doesn't seem like there's that that process and also like obviously the the players are all gonna have the things they say but keep in mind is different than just doing a stand-up show when you do a stand-up show you just talk about all the different topics and

You're just talking about the motherfuckers on the dais. Yeah. And this is going to be long. Yeah. You know what I mean? But at the same time, it's Tom motherfucking Brady. It's like a pretty sick thing to do. Where is it going to be? The Forum. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I thought it was like a theater. How many times are you going to perform at the Forum this year, dog? That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fire. So, no, it's cool. You have any bar that didn't make the cut that you could tell us here? Um...

Nothing that I'm throwing out yet because, again, I don't know where shit will be. I have a set that I've been working out, and it's like I almost kind of want to, no matter what, release the set. Yeah. Because I'll probably have to scratch shit off as we go through. But there's a version where it's just like, this is fire. I want you all to see this. So I might film it or release it or something like that. I've heard it's crazy. I talked to a buddy of mine that was at the Cellar. Oh, really? He ran it. He was like, bro.

It's wild, bro. Kendrick type shit. I don't know. I mean, let's hope that we get there and there's still jokes. I'm excited for it. I'm excited for it. Cool weekend. Busy ass motherfucking weekend, but we're going to be good. And then you're going to be out there and you're going to be out there for the fest. Improvs. Both shows sold out. Got them. So much. Got them. And then Mark. I'm going to be doing my buddy Kid Super's show. Hell yeah, dog. Kid Super's doing the Paris Fashion Week fashion show for Netflix. Amazing.

Yeah, so I'm going to be wearing like a tutu or something. Wait a minute, so, and are they going to, I know Kid will film it, but is it going to be filmed? No, it won't be filmed. Okay. Yeah, it's not going to be put out. But Kid Super will do it. Maybe they'll do something with it. Really? He won't even film it at all? I mean, it might be filmed for us, but it's not going to be, the way that the one you did in Paris was like released as a special, it's not going to be like released. Got it. Okay, okay, okay. That'll be cool though. Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah. That'll be fun. Shout out to Com, dude. Did you see your outfit? No. His outfit. Yeah, man.

I'm painting my nails, bro. I'm doing the whole thing. I need some advice. Are you going to... What date?

It's a Sunday. Same day as the roast? Yeah. Tom Brady? Before or after. I don't know. It's not the same time, though. That's crazy. You all just decided, oh, it's the biggest weekend we're all going to do. Let's toss another thing on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, we're done. Oh, when they told me it was this, I was like, hell yeah, I want to do this shit. And then when they said what day it was, I was like, oh, it would be. Yeah. It would be the fucking day after. So now I got to decide, do I fly out immediately after the Saturday show? No. No.

Or do I fly out Sunday? Either way, I can't party like crazy. Yeah. I'm just saying, bro. Think about it. I mean, you can't party crazy after night one because you got to be ready for night two. Night two. Nah, but you can't go. I'm a father. Don't listen to Al. I'm a father. Don't listen to Al. No, I hear what you're saying. No, I hear what you're saying. No, no. We're obviously going to celebrate. But frankly, there's three nights.

You know what I mean? Night one, night two, and then night three is the roast. Yeah, but I understand what you're saying, which is like, yo, everybody's here. This is this moment that I've been working towards. I'm way more excited about MSG. That's what I've been working towards. This is another cool thing that just happens to be very inconvenient timing. But MSG is everything I've worked for in my professional career. It's going to be great. It'll be fun. We'll all be out there. I'll be out there Sunday. Are you going to come? Of course. Oh, Sunday. I don't know. Come on, bro. Come on.

Come on, Al. You got a spot out there still, right? Yeah, I do. Oh, actually, I could go. Let's kick it Sunday night. I mean, I'm going out Sunday. I'm coming back Monday. Yeah, yeah. I have a 6 a.m. flight Monday. Okay, good. I'm going back Thursday. You know what I mean? Like, it's, yeah, it's going to be crazy. Yeah. Yeah, we're just bouncing around. It's going to be fun, though. Yeah.

We got pods next week, right? Exactly. We got pods. I'm coming back. And I'm coming back for my daughter. But yes, we also do have pods that we have to do. Yeah, that's the tricky thing. Wait, what? It's just like moving a family is hard. Suggestion. Talk to me. Unless... That's what we were trying to do. And I didn't want to say it to you guys until I knew it was possible. But my wife's brother is graduating.

So her family's coming out here and that graduation is the week after MSG. Oh, it's here. Yeah. So it's like, it'd be like moving their whole family. It was just too crazy. Yeah. Bummer. We could just spot out there. Bro, I literally, we talked about it and I was like, we do it at WTF. Like it would be the easiest fucking thing to do. But I don't want to, I don't want to miss out with. Family. I'm shy, bro. We've been away like every weekend for the whole month. So anyway, yeah.

Cool stuff. So let's go check that out. And then, and yeah, make sure you check out Akasha's shows. They're sold out. So if you already got tickets, you check them out and make sure you go check out Mark. If you want to see Mark in a dress at the kids. I would say I'm pulling up, but I ain't. Nah, I wouldn't expect you to. I'll be dressed like Eddie Izzard. You gotta pull up to wherever the fuck we at after the kids super show. In the dress up. Show up in the dress. Me and Tom in the dress. Yeah. All right.

All right, my boy. We're getting you, bro. Yeah, I know, bro. Why do they do this? Why do they put black men in dresses? Back to the show. Okay, guys, we have an official rap beef. Finally. It's happened. Kendrick Drac, I'm such a prisoner of the moment, bro. I'm such a prisoner of the moment. I love this. Bro, I'm such like... I love this. The last thing I hear is the best thing I heard. And I put that shit on today...

I don't even know what he said. I'll be honest, I don't even know. He's got the voice breaking and whatever that, you know that thing where he does the puberty shit? And like, I'm like, whatever it is, when your voice cracks a little, right? And he's just, yeah. Right? But he had some bars that I don't remember that were fire. Like, I don't remember nothing, but it was heat.

Oh, my God. Okay. So the beginning starts... It literally just dropped like about an hour ago. Yeah, so... We ain't really taking in that much. Yes. But, yeah, there were a couple bars that stuck out. The first one... Which one? The one... Oh, play the intro backwards. If you play the intro backwards, it says, everything they say about me is true. Mm-hmm.

I believe. Yeah, it does. Okay. You're right. So let's just start with that. Does that mean like the family stuff that he mentioned? He said fabricate stories on the family front. So that's what's weird. So then what is it? I don't know. I think it says if you don't say lies about me, I won't say truths about you. Yeah. Fire bar. That was a nice one. Now he knows something. Is he saying that about Drake? Everything they say about me is true?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, just so we can, just so, what you mean is he's not saying that as Kendrick. He's like, yeah, as Drake. Wait, is it in Drake's actual voice or is it in Kendrick's voice? I thought it was Kendrick's voice.

I love this. It's you to be a detective. So much fun. This combines conspiracy theories and rat beef, and it's so fun. Yes. Okay, so go. I'm calling bullshit on the don't make me talk about your truth stuff, because this is fucking six minutes and 40 seconds. Like, you said everything you could say. This is too long for you to still have stuff left in the tuck to say. Okay, but...

I think this is everything. But it's more fun to think what is it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, definitely. Are we thinking there's no way a body or is there a body that he knows about? If it turns out Drake really killed XXXTentacion... I mean, that's crazy. There's no way because the kids would have ratted already. Not really. They're holding it down, 18-year-old kids? I mean, they...

What? I don't think Drake contacted the 18-year-old kids, I think. If anything, it was somebody told somebody to tell somebody. And then they know that there's a... Yeah, but I still don't think, yeah, I don't think they're behind it. I don't think, he's, so here's what I'll say to you, Al. He's kind of insinuating things, but he's not saying anything. I think what he's saying is, I'll do the push of teeth. Have you ever paid 500, go up a little, have you ever paid 500,000s

To like an open case. What does that mean, Al? An open case? Well, I have, and I felt that both. Have you ever played? Have you ever played? I think he said I failed at both. Oh. Have you ever played? Have you ever? Okay. N-word, let's play.

Have you ever watched your enemy down? Walked your enemy down. These lyrics wrong as fuck. Yeah, I know. Geniuses. So Rap Genius is just trying to get, and I think it's just a white guy doing his best. So he doesn't know what walked your enemy down means. Literally, I was refreshing the page and you would just see more words like. Changing? Yeah. I think when it's highlighted gray, that means either they're not sure or maybe this is all they are sure about. No, when it's highlighted gray, that means there's a hyperlink so you can click it and it explains. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Sorry. It's all right. I don't need it, Brad Genius. I'm not waiting. An open case is an ongoing investigation. That's what I figured. $500,000 to an open case. So I guess he's trying to pay off a case, he's saying? Or it's opening a case of money with $500,000 in it. Nah, that's poor. Nah, that's... Hey, I'm trying. Nah, I think he's saying he paid off... He paid $500,000 to maybe get rid of a case. He said, I'll park your son. Park... Is that just...

Because somebody asked, does Drake's mom have Parkinson's? Is that you that asked that? Or is somebody on Twitter? No, Park is...

Who has Parkinson's? 40, right? Drake's producer. Oh, no. He has some illness. He got MS. Oh, ain't that the same? No, I don't think so. Similar. That's if you have multiple sclerosis, if you got like a lot of sclerosis. You got like scleroside? If you got scleroside, that's MS. What's Parkinson's? I thought that's what Michael J. Fox got. They're both neurogenic. Yeah. All right. Medically speaking, yes. Okay. Okay.

When you stand by sex, I believe you don't like women. That's real competition. You might pop ass with him. Yeah. Like that. I was not hearing any of this. Oh, he said he tried to cease and desist the like that record, which is kind of damning, I guess.

Apparently Drake had a cease and desist for his diss, for Kendrick's diss. Oh, wow. He said, you ain't like that record? He didn't say why. He just said, you try to cease and desist to like that record? You ain't like that record? When he starts talking in a Toronto accent. Oh, that shit is unbelievable. Unbelievable. It is so much fun to be prisoner of the moment, guys. I'm telling you, if you just let yourself go,

and you just indulge in the last thing that you try, your life will be so much more enjoyable. Yeah, because you're not constantly comparing. You're just going, oh, this is awesome. I was saying, I'm a Drake hater. Up until four hours ago, I was like, Drake won. There's nothing Kendrick can do. There's nothing he can do. It's taking too long. And now I'm like, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. What are you going to say, Drake? It's over. It's over. I definitely was saying that this weekend. I was like, if nothing drops this weekend, this...

It's over. It's done. Yeah, not. And how long was it? Two weeks? Two weeks for him to drop? Yeah, pretty much. Two weeks. Which was what? 18 days, I think, according to... Yeah. That was what... Drake took. Drake might have taken 28. No, but Drake dropped on, I think it was Saturday morning. So this is Tuesday. So he's...

Two weeks and some days. All right. But it's around the same time. It's not like some crazy shit. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's... It's good that he made it really long because now it's like, all right, we're giving you a little bit more grace because we see you put the work in. But if he just came back with like one verse... Dude, diss tracks need to have radio play. Like, I feel like a diss track with radio play is a better diss.

It is more effective. It's more effective. Like back to back, like you'll be in the club being like, yo, is that a world tour or your girl's tour? Like forever. You know what I mean? That's such a fantastic line. People are going to be dissing this guy in the perpetuity. Whereas like some of these other ones, like the story of Adidon, like is like a good diss, but it's like. You'll never hear it again. I can't remember the last time I heard it since it played. Yeah. But he still, Pusher does get the win for that one. Yeah. I don't even. This is where there's some debate. What I will say is this.

It's possible that a diss track could get escape velocity, which is Ether, which is, what is the Pac one about Biggie? Hit Em Up. Yeah, Hit Em Up. Well, that's also like a radio song. First off, fuck your bitch and click your guess. Pure radio. But Ether wasn't radio. No. But everybody knows it. It became a word. It's part of vernacular. So if it's that nice, it could do it. This is not that nice, though.

And neither is Drake's, to be honest with you. Like, neither of them approach ether levels where you're just like, that's the only thing you think about when it comes to rap beef. Yeah. But in terms of radio play, I think Push Up is more radio friendly than this one. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that's a general goal of Drake's. Like, that is way more. It's the best. Yeah, exactly. Like, that is number one. Yeah, I shouldn't fire ass up. Good point. Good point.

Okay, so any other things from this disc? Do we see anything happen? You heard it's starting to get a little violent potentially because one of the dude's houses got robbed.

Yeah, could be a coincidence. I think this was, who's... Cash, one of the managers from XO. Yeah. That's Drake shit. No, Weeknd. I think that's Weeknd's manager. Oh. And there was like gunshots and shit, and somebody might've gotten injured. So like now, unfortunately, the rap beef that we all thought was going to be the safest, most verbal, has become physical and violent. And...

that's corn. That's some pussy shit, bro. That is the most pussy ass shit. It's like you have the ability to go back. You said the shit, right? You have the ability to take shots. Go take the shots. Take it back. You guys have studios. You have music. You are creatives. You have the ability to compete on a creative level. And if, if hypothetically, if, if,

somebody is telling someone to go rob them or is paying somebody to go shake shit up that's soft bro that's an admission of of uh weakness of weakness in my opinion yeah that's why and drake's so calculated well i don't think he would do that especially this close that can't be from his crew like yeah i think it's you know how people just want to be like oh hey i want to get down with this crew so they're doing it too yeah

I think that's what that is. And especially LA, everybody knows where everyone lives. Yeah. Wait, it happened in LA? Yeah. That could have just been a regular. That is another thing. Nah, you're right. My bad. Didn't calculate that. He got LA. Yeah, yeah. He got nothing to do. Actually, this is the perfect time to rob all of them because they're going to be looking for suspects in the...

Not just random robbers. This is the best time in history to be a white robber in L.A. If you're a white guy that robs famous people in L.A., get to work. Because nobody's coming to look, right? Yeah, rob any rapper, you're good. Yeah, exactly. If you're one of these guys, you've got to protect the other guy's house.

This is like the mob shit where a guy gets out of prison and he has to protect the snitch. Wait, break this down. I forgot what I was talking about. I was talking to some guy that went to prison and he was going back and forth with this guy and if the guy died then he would be the number one suspect.

So now he had to pay bodyguards to protect the guy that was suing him. So that he wouldn't have to snitch? So that the guy that he was against, if anything happened to him, if he got in a car accident, if he slipped and tripped down the stairs, he would be the suspect because he had a violent history. So these two guys were in some type of litigation and the one guy had to protect the other guy.

Because if anything happened, he would be the suspect. Right, right, right, right, right. So this is the same thing, bro. Drake has to protect all of Kendrick's people. Send the security. Make sure he's ready to cook. Just not the security that was with Whitney, though. Yo, this guy...

This guy is wild. He's wild. He's team OVO. Nah, it was in the rap song. What tipped you off? Being dressed like a sperm. On the three Drake concerts I went to. Am I crazy? You went to three Drake concerts and two Nick games? I knew you were a fucking loser, dude. I knew

loser, take the hat off. You got the nail polish. That's your uniform. He switched it up. He had Wayne one night. He had J. Cole another night. That's different conscience right there. Am I crazy for feeling like this is kind of WWE?

Maybe I've been talking to my mom too much, but there's a part of me deep in my core where I'm like... Both of them are in on this. Right? Why are you trying to take the fun out of it? Maybe it can get away. No, but to be fair, he does say like, what's all this... That's a couple lines. He's like, what's all this real shit? This is sport. This is what it is. We're just talking shit. This isn't a real thing. He like says that. But then he says some wild shit about not raising his son. Oh, yeah, that was wild. Yeah, he's poor. Like, that...

like that. And he'll say like, oh, I didn't shoot the AK right the first time I shot it. Now I know how to shoot it now. I gotta aim lower. Why does he say that? Because of the recoil. That was the blackest moment Al's ever had on a podcast. But he must not have been an AK because the AK doesn't have recoil. Well, they're saying the Draco. I think the Draco is the...

What's the gun they all use? Who's they? Hey, Al, who's they? Because I got an idea, but I want to know what you're thinking. I want to know if we're both on the same page here with they. Because you threw it out there. Put on your coat. Put on your coat. Put on your military jacket.

M16. That opinion came with the outfit. Exactly. M16. Government issued rifle. Got it. Got it. The military folks. Yes, yes, yes. Got it. He threw that out there in the most Cuban fucking way. Wait, did we tell the story yet? What? About our driver, our Uber driver in Tampa? No, this guy is awesome. Oh my God, we had an Alex driver in Tampa. We get into the Uber.

Jacksonville. Sorry, Jacksonville. Yeah, yeah. We get into it. Yeah, that's right. Jacksonville. Yeah. We get into the Uber and I'm feeling a little like, I don't know if I'm friendly or antagonistic. I haven't decided yet. But I'm like, what's up, man? How you doing? Just trying to figure out Jacksonville, get the feel of the vibe, whatever like that. And he's like, what's up, man? And I'm like, how's everything going out here? He's like, it's good. Where are you guys coming from? I go, oh, New York. He goes, that's a shame.

I go, what? Yeah. I go, what? I just started to smile. He goes, yeah, liberal city, ruined crime everywhere. Drug addicts, people just murder and everything. And I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, it's not really a liberal city. Like we always got Republican mayors and you know, that's just what it is. We're just cool with gay people. And he goes, he goes, yeah, it's weird anyway, but still crime, drug addict shootings everywhere. I'm like, well, what's your mayor? He goes, uh,

Well, she's a Democrat, but still, she hasn't ruined everything yet. The other guy was one of these Gavin Newsom types, can't even fucking trust him, right? We're like, okay, this is going to be fun. And they go, hey, aren't there like shootings and drugs and shit all over here? He goes, yeah, not downtown. I'm like, yeah, but there's shootings everywhere in this place. Well, he's probably got some liberal-ass city. That's where that's happening. He goes, yeah, it's not happening right here. And I go, yeah, there's still shootings everywhere in Jacksonville. That's where everybody talks to you. He goes, it's not happening here. And I'm like, well, where does it happen? He goes...

The are doing it. Wow. Just drops it. Full. Hard R. Full hard R. Full hard R. Wow. Mark and I just go. Rick Flair is in the car, dude. It is on and popping. This guy's frazzled. I look at the ETA on the Uber app.

15 more minutes. Didn't drop it like a minute and then we get off. We're on the highway in traffic and he dropped a hard ER with 15 minutes left. Oh, oh, it gets better. This guy's on the ropes. He's frazzled, right? Mark, everything calms down. Mark hits him with one just haymaker. He goes, all right, all right, let's just calm things down here. Like, where's the gay neighborhood at? And he goes, oh, the gay neighbor's over in Suffolk. And Mark goes, huh,

How do you know that? Because I'm a driver. I'm a taxi driver. It's my job. I got to know these things. Bro, we had this guy on edge for 15 more minutes, dude. Oh, my God.

Unbelievable. It was unreal. Schultz starts asking about his personal life. He starts getting in there. He's like, yeah. I can't imagine things are good. He's like, yeah, yeah. My third wife, we were actually going on a trip soon. We're like, oh, what happened to the second wife? He's like, she was a whore. We're like, what? He's like, yeah, I got deployed. She started banging all the neighbors. Whore. And then we were like, what? Aw.

He goes, he goes, he goes, well, one that I knew of, it's probably all of them whores. And then he starts talking about the first wife and he goes, and my first wife, actually, never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Schultz goes, no, tell me, tell me. No, I go, you already said the N word, you might as well tell us what happened to your first wife. And he turns around and goes, hey, mind your own business, jackass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, it was,

Now we're just fighting the guy. We're just in a dispute. Like, Edward dropped him down to three stars, and then he's slowly creeping back up. He fought back. He fought back, for sure. He goes, yeah, yeah, I divorced her because she was crazy, mobbed up, you know? And then she sent a private investigator to check me out and, like, see what I was doing. He was just tagging me all over the place. I was like, did you ever think anything was going to happen to you? She was like, nah, I think I was okay. But I did move to Florida. Wow.

Yeah, it's not real. Anyway, so that was what you are. And then picks up... From where? Mississippi? No, he's up in like, where was it? Philly or something like that. Yeah, Philly. And then gets on the phone and starts speaking perfect Spanish. Oh yeah, he's a Cuban the whole time. We thought he was like this white hillbilly guy, but he's a Cuban the whole time. So we gave him a little slide on the N-word, but maybe we shouldn't. What is your thinking on that? What should he have done, dude? What complexion? He looked... They thought he was white. He looked whiter, but sometimes when you're that...

sounding, you kind of seem it. You know how there's some white guys that have the Sean King effect where when they sound blacker, you're like, oh, maybe he is mixed. He was Sean King, but hillbilly. Gotcha. Like Sean King's brother. Yeah, so nah, he can't say it. He can't say it. Okay, got it. Okay, fair enough. But he looked like every single Facebook profile picture, like the dude in the car hat, glasses. Glasses.

Like, have you seen this, like, every, like, Republican dude on the internet? Oh, dude. It's the same guy. Red hat? No, no, no. It'll just be, like, just a hat, like, maybe, like, a Punisher hat, you know what I mean? Like, the skull thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then glasses just sitting in a car. Sunglasses? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fast sunglasses. Oakley's. Just sitting in a car. And it's, like, every guy has the same exact one. Bro, he would say, dude, it was, like, it was, like, it was just, like, walking on thin ice.

The whole thing, no, no, no. It was like, once you know he can go anywhere, you're like just not sure how it's going to go. I remember one time he goes, you guys tour all over the place? We're like, yeah, we're going to Abu Dhabi in like a month. Uh-oh. And he goes, Abu Dhabi, I've been there twice. Once like 30 years ago and then once like five years ago. Amazing what they've done. That's right.

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Okay, we said that to say this. It was Michael Chandler was the guy who... Why is everyone going for Michael Chandler, dude? Because he has two adopted black children. Respect. What'd you say? Monster. How dare he? What an asshole. Yeah, but...

What an asshole to take these kids... Oh, what a dickhead. ...out of the foster system and raise them... How dare you? ...as if they were his own. How dare you? With love and affection. Piece of shit, dude. But I think the thing that he said was he's not raising them as black kids. He's just raising them as children. I think that's exactly... And I think that black people...

were like, you don't have a choice but to raise them as black kids. But what if he said this? What if he said the opposite? What if he was like, I'm not raising them as children. I'm raising them as black kids. That would sound wild. I got these motherfuckers doing hopscotch. Double dutch. Double dutch. We got them doing all the things. These are my little piglets. Yeah. Shit.

Piglets. Piglets. Piglets. If you went back two letters in the alphabet, it would have been a very different situation. I saw Al calculate whether or not he should snuff you. I saw it. Now you get. Now you get. Because sometimes these white bitches are like...

On your nerve. But yeah, all the comments are like, society's going to raise them as black kids, so you have to teach them the cultural thing. Which might be true, but he don't know that. He's a white dude who grew up a white dude. He doesn't understand these things, and he'll learn. Why are you yelling at him? I also think there's part of him that's like...

He's like, I don't want to force anything on them. I want them to exist in the world as who they are. Right. And I totally understand black people that are like, yo, it's some wild shit they're going to go through. And maybe you should let them know before. So when it happens to them, they're not shocked and it doesn't break their heart that the world can be, you know, treat them a little bit differently. Yeah. So I understand that perspective as well. That being said,

yet Chandler can't be like I'm raising a black because then black Twitter's gonna be like the fuck you know about raising kids black he can't win he can't win this is a net positive you're taking two kids out of the foster system this is fucking awesome I on the other hand will have white children and I will raise them black

So it'll be a watch. How's that different than how you grew up? I'm going to raise my kids black as hell, dude. How? How so? I'm going to teach them how to rap. They're going to play basketball. That's white. All black people just rap. That's white. Basketball, that's European. Oh, fuck. That's a good point. Yo. They're going to sell bags on Canal Street. I'm going to make my kids do that. That'll be fun. Oh, like black, black. Yeah, we're going all the way, dude. Whoa. My kids are going to be hustling. Now that's Africa. Or Nigeria. My kids will be hustling, bro. They'll be making money off rip. Let me tell you something about Africans.

Africans don't have the same fear of police that American blacks got. Definitely.

We're talking about Canal Street. Son, these Africans ain't watching not one George Floyd video. These Africans think they American and just white about it. Like, they are cursing at the cops. They're on the street selling weed, fake bags, fake sneakers out in public. They turn this one corner into like little Senegal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the cops come and try to move the shit and they're like, fuck out of here. Yeah.

It's unbelievable. So now the cops are policing it a little bit more. So now they all carry it in bags. So it's like they can just like run. So I saw it the other day. I was coming out of my studio. Explain a little bit what we're talking about, though, for people that haven't been to Canal New York. In Canal, a lot of the guys, they happen to be African, but they're also Asian as well. Motherfuckers.

So they used to put like just a blanket on the ground and we'll have a bunch of counterfeit shit. Watch your mic. Sorry. They would have a bunch of counterfeit shit all on the blankets, but then police would come and they couldn't pick the shit up. And so they would lose all their stuff. So now they keep everything in bags or they keep it like away in some place and they'll have to take you around the corner to sell you some shit.

And so when the police come, they all just run with their bags. And it was a frenzy when I walked out the studio. It was like 20 guys just running. And the cops just trying to decide which one to go after. Hoofing in sandals. So the guy who was the most selfish, who had the most amount of bags, he got caught because he couldn't. Oh, wow. It's a good lesson, actually. Yeah.

And they don't give a fuck. They are breaking the law, cursing at the cops. Only white people have ever seen doing that. White people are the only people I've ever seen do something illegal, get arrested for it, and be angry at the cops for doing their job. How dare you? They're so ballsy. The moment they arrested that guy, took him off, went right

back to school. They don't care. They don't care. Which, we had a racist Uber driver, right? Yeah. This guy said the N-word. Not the most racist Uber I've ever been in. Talk to me. The most racist Uber driver I've ever had, this will be controversial, was like a Nigerian dude that just immigrated. No, no, no. And I was like, yeah, man, so how's Nigeria? How do you feel being in America? I think this is like Trump was president. I'm like, what do you think of Trump? And he was like, oh, man, black people in America, don't get me started. Full Nigerian guy, thick Nigerian accent, just talking crazy shit. I was like,

What is going on? Really? Yeah, he's like this rap music saying the N-word. He's just dropping it hard R again. I was like, dude, are you allowed? As much as Mark told this story just to make himself not the most racist person in the world, it's true. Nigerians really don't like me. See why they sold y'all? I don't think we talk about that enough. We bought them. We didn't sell them.

You know what I mean? It's different. We bought. We wasn't selling. Like, when you go by Chinatown... Y'all made us work, all right? All right, so...

That's a good point. I made it seem like they were upset at the purchase. If we bought it and then you got to do whatever you want, you'd be happy. You got to fuck away from them assholes over there. Yeah, you're right. It was really the work. God damn, you blew my mind right now. You weren't the best either. I don't know if you know that. Now you're right. But again, that's on them. They was not providing good travel or the Brits or whoever was the middleman.

Was it the... No, don't say it. Don't do that. No, no, no. We can't say it. We can't say it. We can't say it. The Jews already getting blamed enough. Bro, the conspiracy theorists is blaming Jews for everything. Is your Twitter crazy right now? Yo, my Twitter is... By crazy, do you mean awesome? Hold on. Twitter's kind of awesome, right? No, no, no, no, no, no. The way that they blame the Jews... I had them blame Jews for... They found a way to blame Jews for JFK. Oh, hell yeah. They think that the Jews assassinated JFK? Hell yeah.

Talk to me. My mind is open. Yeah, I do. I need to hear this. So is his. Speaking of watermelon, JFK's brain. The amount of racism I've seen on Twitter the last 48 hours is crazy. It is. It's also hilarious. I saw this post that came up. What is this one? Bobby Fisher, okay? One of the greatest chess players of all time. Just two words, two sentences. Best pattern-recognizing ability in history.

Blames the Jews for everything. That's funny. That's the whole post. For those who don't know Bobby Fischer, he's a chess prodigy in the U.S., like took the world by storm in the 70s. They made a movie about him, right? Searching for Bobby Fischer? Yeah, and then apparently went kind of crazy and now he's a big anti-Semite. Oh, is he? Went crazy or clear, whichever. Whichever side you like. He recognized all the patterns. That's the point, yeah. Bro, my Twitter, I'm going to say mine.

So, you know, it is crazy how quickly Jews get blamed for every single, like, it is wild. It is wild. Like,

You got to, you got to, you got, like, for all the Jews, I know, I know, you feel it. But for all the Jews that have been saying these things for years, and then you're like, nah, bro, there's no way. There's no way it could happen again. Not in America, not any place. Bro, how fast Twitter has turned into the Jews have done everything.

They blame the Jews for the Knicks trying to bump me out of my day at Madison Square Garden. They did. And I went down the thread and I was like, I got to get to the bottom of this. I mean, Nolan, is he? No. No, he's not. His name is Dolan. You are the worst Knicks fan, bro. Oh, my God. I told you. He's a fucking loser, bro.

You're a fucking loser. Kendrick on the beat, you suck, dude. I hate this guy. I hate this guy. Nolan? I'm not doing names. He's a fucking loser. And the fact that he just assumed he was Jewish. Yo, 90s Al is back. Knicks are playing all right. 90s Al is back. Now let's talk about trans again. Are you a Chiefs fan now?

Yeah. How's that different than what he's doing? Now, I'm openly, y'all yelled at me for this. This is who he's been. Don't yell at me. You me. Yeah, but I'm not, I never switched sides. He did never switch. Because you never cared enough about sports to switch sides. But it is his team. That's what I'm saying. It is a little different when you go to a different city. It's not his team.

It's always been my team. It's where you're born. There is a caveat here. You see the difference a little bit. No. He's a loser. How dare you criticize me? He's a fucking loser. Tell us all the stuff that they're saying about the Jews. I actually think in a weird way that this is...

helpful for Jews. You need to see anti-Semitism is real. Exactly, because when arguments seem logical, all of a sudden you go, wow, maybe I should look into this. When things get so conspiratorial and ridiculous, then you can go, hey, you see how people hate us?

This is the problem and it needs to be nipped in the bud. I think that was the thing I've learned post-October 7th. However you feel about what the government in Israel is doing, you can't say anti-Semitism isn't real. That's a thing that I'm like, oh, fuck, that's real. Now, I could disagree with the government of Israel's actions, but anti-Semitism is out there and it's crazy. It's crazy. Oh, I know it's real. And I'm not even Jewish, but when people think I am. People are thinking you're Jewish. And I be getting it. And I be getting it, bro. Yeah.

You and Nolan, dude. Big Jews. Big Jews, dude. Okay, so tell me, what was the crazy thing you saw? I mean, it's just crazy. Like, the Bobby Fischer thing was wild. I'm trying to think. There's just been so many random posts. I'm trying to think of one specifically. How did dirt just fall off you? When you raised your arm, dirt just fell off. Maybe your skin is dry. Yeah. Put some water on it so Akash can fucking...

I hate you. I hate you. I don't have a response. I didn't see it coming. I didn't see it coming at all. This might have been the most crazy one. Okay, go, go, go. I don't know if we're even allowed to show this. I don't think we should, but we can talk about it. Your Twitter as well. I think it's y'all algorithm. I haven't seen this. The other thing, I'm like, why do y'all think that I like this? You guys are the only two that were like,

My Twitter's racist. Your Twitter's just basketball. Who the Dallas Cowboys drafted. There's no interest at all. Thousand percent. I have not seen any Al Fittler material. This is crazy. This is the most wild one. This has, how many views does this have? So this has six million. Four million. No, the numbers are inflated. This has 3.6 million. You inflated them. Three point. What the fuck are you guys doing?

That's my whoop. 3.6 million views and the post just says, why do they never show you clips like these? And it's just Hitler playing with kids. It's gross. It's crazy. It's fucking gross. It's fucking wild. And this is just all, it's like people are sharing it. He's literally marching. Like, what is redeeming about that? They're like, look at how great Germany was. It's fucking crazy. We need to keep an eye on Germans, yo.

Yeah, yeah. 5,000 retweets. 5,000 people saw this and they were like, oh, my fans, my followers need to see this. We need to keep an eye on Germans. It's crazy. Yeah, they don't have enough of an individual spirit to do that.

Do you know what I mean? They just collect. They're a culture that is just congealed. They will collect and they will do whatever needs to be done. Like right now in Berlin, you know how everyone is gay or whatever? That's the new collection. We're all going to be gay and we're all going to suck each other's dicks in a club. That's just our culture and that's what we do. But somebody just presented that idea to them and then they were like, okay, we do it now. And before that, it was Nazis. And I'm sure before that, it was something else. We need to be very careful. We need to keep an eye on Germany. We got to Japanify them.

Talk to me about that. Get into cartoons. All right? Do karaoke. Can I just say one thing? I didn't want to say it because...

I thought it was going to be crazy, but the fact that you said it makes it less crazy. Wait, no, wait, is it crazy? They are the Asians of whites. I just, and the way that you can get Asians to just get on the same page. They make great products. They, they make the engineering efficiency, the efficiency, get on the same page. Exactly. If Germans ate with chopsticks, we would think they were fucking Chinese. I don't even think we would know the difference. I,

This is so good. We would stare at them. This infuriates me. It's so good. It is true. Look at Hitler. He's a fucking Chinese. He's a fucking Chinese. He's Mao. He's Mao. He's Mao. What's the difference between Mao and they both love light skin? Mm-hmm. Both be killing people recklessly. Unify. Look up Chinese preschool TikTok right now.

Look up Chinese preschool. They got these motherfuckers doing synchronized basketball drills. It's going to look exactly like that. Those bitches dancing in Germany. This is real. This is actually terrifying. The way preschoolers in China or kindergartners in China are. It's like they don't got the love of the game. No, son. They don't got the love of the game.

But I hear what you said. They think if they just start up early with everything, they're going to be the best. Oh, they did not have this bitch sewing. Yeah, but look, you got to do it every day. Yeah, but like, why are they acting like she don't already do that? Son, if you look up the basketball drills, that's her job. Don't show it like it's a hobby. Son, these are, they're fucking fully grown humans. Yes. What I'm trying to say is... But that's Germany.

Tell me there's a German who would do the exact same thing. Bro, I'm 100% on board with you. They are the agents of... Your theory, I'm on board. But I'm proving, this, what is it, supplements what you said. Look at that, air day, it's bomb. Look at this. That's unbelievable. Wow. Steph Curry drills, five years old. Wow. Oh, they about to be nice. Oh, they're gonna be nice. Nah, nah, nah. You need the individual spirit, bro. They about to have Lindsay sanity.

I tried to laugh. I was trying to put it together. But Lindsay ain't an Asian name. Yeah, no, we got this. No, these are fire. But like, they're just, they're teaching the kids way more. Look at this shit, it's crazy, dude. This is great. Yeah, this is, but what I'm saying is,

We don't have to keep an eye because they're already over there. But Germans are close, so we got to keep an eye. Fair enough. Like, that's insane. I don't know what that is. What even is that? They're doing hops. Yo! Chinese are blacker than black people. Nah, that's disrespectful right now. Yo, bro. They play dancing. Now they got double dutch. They're doing double dutch and they're playing basketball all day. Nah, that's crazy. That's crazy right there, bro. Son, this is what makes you think they're taking over. Mm-hmm.

I ain't worried. I mean, that's crazy. They're not going to take over. Let me just join them. Okay. Not enough individual spirit, bro. You really need that.

You really need that. You keep telling yourself that. I'm telling you, bro. They don't know how to do it. They don't know how to create shit. They know how to steal our IP and then reverse engineer it and then put it out. But they don't know how to actually create things. And I think they can't create things because they crush the individual spirit. Like all the billionaires out there get squashed. Your boy Jack Ma is actually creating interesting shit and then they pull him into a fucking room and say, you're not going out for two weeks unless you behave. And if you keep doing that, then you...

you kill the soul, bro. You kill the soul. So I'm not tripping about that. We got our things are fucked up here too, don't get me wrong. Like, we can kill our souls as well, but...

A society that functions the way ours does, where we will really promote business and promote greatness, will always thrive, I think, over an authoritarian society. That's my opinion. Because they just can't create the shit that's necessary. If they keep stealing our shit. Which they do. They steal it and make it better. And when you make it better, you can profit a lot. That's why I keep thinking. You can make a lot of profit and dominate. Dominance isn't in necessarily invention. It's in perfection.

Hmm. That's an interesting thing. But I mean, the market wouldn't say just yet. Like, obviously they've had like incredible growth, but that happens faster when you're coming from like nothing to something. So now we have to see if they plateau. It's looking like they're coming down a little bit, but I hope so. Who knows? I want them to eat. I want them to eat, but I don't want them to be. I think you said this years ago and it stuck with me. We're going to miss the American superpower if China takes over. We're going to be like, oh, the American empire wasn't all good, but it was a better alternative.

let's just big up India bro India's coming that's what I'm saying let's just send all of our stuff to India let y'all do it I'm 1000% in favor of that India's coming that's the only real hope you got if you're anti-China India yeah we gotta back you guys bro for real yeah 1000% you guys have nukes? yeah

Got it. You have some Pakistan right next door. We both nuked up. Wait, Pakistan has nukes? Yeah, come on now. How much do you think they work? Like both of y'all. It don't really work. You got it. I don't know if you can get it off the ground. I don't know if it's really going to explode. Are you trying to tell me you don't think a bunch of Asians could engineer nukes?

Nah. Now you're Asian. Nah. Yeah, now you're Asian. Now you're Asian. Now you're riding with them, bro. Now you're Asian. Fine, a bunch of brown bassies can't engineer. We're engineers. This is what I'm saying. Trevor Noah Wynn did a show out there. They couldn't even get the microphone to work, so I'm like, I don't care. We ain't doing none of his black ass.

We came to see the white half, Trevor. Trevor. You came to see the Trevor. Yeah, so maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Because I do think about that sometimes. I don't know if people's tech really works like that. I can't believe he went to India. I was surprised the show wasn't run the way. What a fucking idiot. We do have high expectations for Indians based on who we see here. Yeah, the best ones are here. But that's the thing. Go to England. You'll lower your expectations. But...

Wait, England's like the G League? Yeah, it's G League. Really? Yeah, yeah. It was explained to me because I thought all Indians were super smart, engineered, doctor, and there's a lot. But it's the hardest to get into America. So they take like one of my uncles, family friend uncles,

Rice University was like, we will pay you. We'll get you citizenship. We'll get you a job. We'll come out. Yeah, you heard that. Fucking Rice University. That's a great joke. But they like, we want the best over here. And then England was not as tough on immigration. They let more people in. So it was just like, if I want to get out of India, it's way easier to go to England.

The best of the best went to America. Got it. Then probably Canada, then probably India. So then we have this expectation of Indians, which is like super successful, super wealthy, like brilliant. Like the Indian kids in your class are always at the top of your class. Because they're from the smartest stock. Right. And then Americans go to India and then they see the other billions. Yeah. And I'm sure they see the smartest there as well. Yeah, a thousand percent. But it's a country just like any other. But there's a spectrum. Right, yeah. But that is kind of funny that it's like,

our expectation of Indians is so high that we must get let down when we go there. Yeah. It's a billion people. Right? It's like if you only knew the royal family and then you went to some like black pool or something like that in England, you'd be like, the fuck is going

is going on over here like yeah yeah yeah they do have the nuke on a tuk-tuk which is kind of funny yeah if anybody makes tuk-tuks i want to buy one in america i want to whip one around new york yo let's get let's get akash and tuk-tuk that don't work at all ain't no way that works i'm not tripping if i'm pakistan i'm not tripping i think y'all got an agreement which is like yo both this shit don't work we good i hope so i trust them because they go into the moon and shit babe yeah

They would send them to them. They ain't going to the moon. Anything to get us away from Pakistan. Fair enough. You'd send them there. Put them on a ship. All right, guys, we're going to take a quick break because I need to talk to some of you. Hopefully not many of you, but some of you might have been injured by the neglect of another person.

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This is Palantir's technology? I don't know what it is. There's a couple of these little startups that have gone into military tech. Bro, this is terrifying. And the AI is deciding the targets. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, okay. Now I understand. Yeah. I didn't realize how...

Like they already have the tech for it. Okay, so this is happening in Russia Ukraine Okay, so Ukraine has basically like these drones that people are controlling right there's a dude in a bunker with Xbox controller He's controlling where the drone goes and who it hits Yeah But they have jamming technology where they can disrupt the signal from the ground to the thing got it So how do you go around this problem? You put the brain inside the aircraft and

So now they're able to send the aircraft off and it's all internal and it's all autonomous. So now they can be like, all right, hit this target, do this thing, da-da-da. And the drone is able to fly around and be like, target acquired, boom, hit it. How does it know it's a target? Because it's all programmed through the AI. Yeah.

But how can it distinguish between an innocent civilian and a target? Because they're able to basically say, like, we're going to this militarized zone. All the people on the front line are insurgents. They're all Russians. And so if we're able to detect someone in this space, we're going to drone them. Jesus Christ. It's crazy. And when they first started doing it, they're just using DJI, like DJI drones. What does that mean? Oh, the same ones that we would use? Consumer drones. They were buying those and then retrofitting them to, like, drop grenades and shit. And then they would...

It has the camera still on it. Yeah. The crazy part. And then they'd upload it to Reddit. So there'd just be like a Russian guy like smoking a cigarette and then drones over top of them and then they'd drop it and then they'd upload this. Son, this is how that Turkish village underground happens. Oh, yeah. What's that village called? I don't know. There's the place that like 60,000 people could live underground. Remember Bermuda?

Billy was talking about it. What the fuck is it called? Derenku? Derenku. Yeah, something like that. Derenku, yeah. But this is how it happens, right? It's not necessarily, I mean, if we're going to believe this, we had advanced technology back in the day and then it got wiped away.

It would happen like this. Drone warfare where you're constantly bombarded, so you have to go underground to avoid that where the drones can't go. Or you have to completely dome up your cities, which seems like an impossible thing to do. I mean, Israel and Hamannassion. But this, it looks like it would pass through it, right? Because this is a tiny little...

It's not a missile. This is just like a drone. I imagine people in Israel have drones, just like recreational. And then you just retrofit them. So then they have all this footage where it's just like a guy alone in a foxhole, his leg's broken, and they can't get him out. I saw that shit. I saw that shit. It's just a dude, and then they drop a... It's crazy. Have you seen the Air Force just did AI dogfighting? No. With our jets. DARPA is like the top of the military, like...

The most intelligent people are in DARPA and they're like making the craziest things. And they put an AI brain or whatever. They put AI into a experimental jet and then let it fly itself. And it got in a dogfight with fake weapons, but with another pilot who was a real pilot. And the AI won the dogfight. Get the fuck out of here. Crazy. And now they're able to do this with nuclear subs.

So back in the day, nuclear subs could go down for months at a time, six, seven months and never be detected. They could just sit in the wings. But you had staff on you. You had soldiers and sailors that had to get fed. And they were able to oxygenate the thing because they were able to take the hydrogen out. So they were able to keep oxygen, but they had to get food and supplies and shit. But now that AI can do it, these submarines can stay underwater forever. Wow. And they can just sit there just chilling. Get the fuck out. And then apparently they signed an agreement where they weren't going to use AI for nuclear war. But maybe. Maybe.

And we got AI. Yeah. Good. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. No, that is, yeah, the Ukraine-Russia shit is like, Ukrainians need to convert to Islam fast if they want people to care about that war. Like, if they actually want to keep their country, they need to convert immediately and convince everybody that they're brown. Mm.

Because when it's white on white, nobody gives a fuck. We cared. We cared for a little because we needed something to care about and we don't like Russians. The hotter new shit starters. Yo, what's that new shit? And the new shit, it looks like, because everybody in America, the people, not everybody, but a lot of people- But the new shit is the old shit. It's the classic.

We like classic, but also like in the way that people are seeing it, because a lot of people that are part of these protests right now, there are a lot of people that do know what's going on and they've cared about this for generations. Sure. But there's a lot of people that are popping on the newest trends and they think that Jews are white because they watch Seinfeld.

And Palestinians are brown, right? So they're looking at it as white oppressor and then brown oppress. And that is way more delicious for the people that want to support oppression everywhere. When they see blonde hair, blue eye, blonde hair, blue eye, they're like, fuck these colonizers. I don't want nothing to do with them. They can go figure that shit out themselves. So Ukraine, y'all need to take your most tan motherfuckers and you need to put them on the front line and then you need to convert to Islam immediately. Yeah, that would actually work.

Tell me that wouldn't work. I was actually looking it up. I was like, is there a new conflict I can care about? Where's the next one? Trump. So these are all the ones that are happening in the world. So over here, obviously, you got war in Ukraine. You got Israel-Palestine. Then you got all these random ones. You're like, we don't even know anything about these. No, nobody's caring. What's that one right there? Oh, is that Congo? Congo's always livid. So we could jump on that bandwagon. But what's Congo? Congo is just black on black? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, we can't. We can't.

It's too hard to tell. We need a little bit of like, you know, we need some friction. We need to see the friction. Like Hutus and Tutsis, I don't even remember. I think the Hutus were the bad guys, but I don't even remember. I think Don Cheadle won it. I don't even remember. Yeah, I think he did. Okay, let's see. India, Pakistan, we're not caring. The tale is oldest time. China, Taiwan. The tale is oldest time. Yeah. 1947. Beauty and the Beast. You got North Korea. I'm sorry, guys.

You need to step it up. Oh, Myanmar. We can jump on this one. Civil War in Myanmar. Is that how big Myanmar is? It's bigger than I thought, dog. Son, I used to go to this Myanmar restaurant and they had a tree that you could clip dollar bills to send money back there. I used to donate. I would have never donated if I knew how big the fucking country was. I thought it was a little speck. I thought it was a dot on a map. It's a gigantic land mass. They got beachfront. Look at all the coastlines. What y'all fighting about? Yeah, dude. And what do they look? Do they look more Indian or more...

Asian. They're Thai, basically. Yeah, they're like a dark Asian. They're Thai. They're Burmese. In the words of Ali Wong, jungle Asian. With the dark lips. They got the dark lips. They probably got a few baddies. Biting the whole neck ring thing. Oh, no way. I've never seen an Asian with that. Wow. They really are the new blacks. Crazy, dude. So wait, so we got no new conflicts? No. No.

So what the fuck are we going to do when we grow tired of this one that's happening right now and we need something to satisfy our identity? We'll just start a new one. Oh, you got that? Okay, at least we're going to start one. But where can we start it where it's really going to galvanize? Like, where do... An article? I was thinking...

Could be fun. But we need like different color people going at it. So it's easy for us to pay attention and know who. In Africa. Chirisies. China's taking over Africa. They're buying up all Africa. Oh, that's a problem. So Africa versus China. That's a real fucking problem. Oh, that could be fun. We step in, help Africa. Like, yeah, we're going to help you get your land back. Oh. We buy it. We buy it up. Yeah. Oh, that's far. Actually, that's really interesting. It's like a better foster family. Yeah. Yeah.

So we, so, okay, this is, I would, I would, I would definitely be into Africa versus China. Most of those proxy wars are that happening already. So it's like China's just propping up one group and America's propping up another group. And so we're letting them fight it out, but it's really just us propping up those groups. Why hasn't anybody told us about this? This makes me so upset. I could have totally been virtuous and talked about this on this podcast. Yeah.

No? Yeah, no. You got to stay focused on the one initiative, dude.

Damn it. Yeah. Damn. Apparently China and North Korea, I was talking to some dude, I don't really know anything about this, they don't really like each other. North Korea and China? Like, they're allies because they have to protect any type of Western influence getting on the border. So North Korea is just essentially a border wall for Western influence in China. And China doesn't want North Korea because North Korea is a destitute country. We don't want more destitution. We've already had a better relationship with them than we have with them.

with them. Yeah, of course. We still can't trust them. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, he don't talk no shit about China.

But maybe Trump can go flip him, dude. I mean, that would be... If he gets North Korea. Yo, imagine we turn North Korea into something. Into the 51st state or whatever. Wow. Yeah. Turn that shit into South Korea North, dog. Come on, now I'd be fired. Exactly. Just relocate it like they do in Bushwick. South Korea North. Yeah. Yeah. Call it East America. That would be... Or give it to Taiwan. Like, no cop. Yeah. Where could we move Taiwan? Hypothetically. Hypothetically.

Like all the people or the whole place? Show me. All the people. Like if we had to, if like China was like, we really want this land and we're like, okay, like I guess, but we like the Taiwanese and we, you know, want to protect them and we like that they make these chips. So where can we relocate? 23 and a half million people, just so you know.

That's how many are moving. I mean, Wyoming's obvious. We got to get it. We can put them in Wyoming. Yeah, Wyoming, Montana, either Dakota. We can take 23 million Taiwanese very easily. Send them to Rice University or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something we can do. I feel like we got options. Look how big Kazakhstan is. Yeah, but we can't move them here. I imagine the terrain sucks.

Kazakhstan? Yeah. You think so? That's why it's not more densely populated? It's all mountains. It's beautiful. You got to see it. It's beautiful. But in terms of inhabitants, you might be right, or maybe it's really hard to invade. So maybe it's like a lot of mountains that make it difficult for other countries to come in and get it. And then they're like, do we really want to traverse these mountains? There's also no port or resources. Yeah, it's just landlocked. All the stands are...

That way. Beautiful. Unbelievably pretty country. I mean, there's this guy that I watch his videos and he's essentially, he cooks. I mean, look at that. That could be Switzerland, right? Holy shit. They're nice. That's amazing, bro. And Sacha Baron Cohen, who is really against, what is it, hate for profit or whatever his fucking gay causes, made this beautiful land look like a bunch of people fucking donkeys. Yeah. Now,

Those things are both true, but it doesn't mean... It's not all one. It's not all one. Exactly. Sometimes you get lucky. Yeah, they fuck donkeys with a view. You know what I mean? Wouldn't you? Right. Would you work on it? What a better place to fuck a donkey. Right there. I'm going to visit Kazakhstan, I think. Let me see the other pictures. I want to go to Turkmenistan. Oh, that's the... The North Korea of Central Asia. I see why you got annoyed at me because when he said that, I was like... Yeah, I know. I was like, no, you're right, dude. You're right.

I'm going to make the comics sound like you're a Knicks fan. You're going to wait until a bunch of people go first to make sure it's nice and westernized. I'm you with the Knicks, but with comics. We are all completely...

Locked into our algorithms and the algorithms decide what we're interested in and like what we want to go see. Because I know the video that Miles has watched that made him want to go to Turkmenistan. I actually know probably both. So there's a few like travel vloggers that have gone. That's so funny. And no. I'm getting a bunch of Paris shit right now for some reason. And I'm like, I think we need to go to Paris. My wife's in Paris.

But like, but so it's like, I know what you've seen and why you're interested in it. I've seen the same thing. So it's sending me that as well. I just watched the guy try to get in. Oh, that video. I've seen it. Oh, you've seen it? I think so. He tries to get in. It's like a really, like a, definitely beautiful. Well, he has to shave his beard. So like to, it's, you're more likely to get the visa if you're clean shaven, which is like an insane little trick.

trick and I was like what an awesome thing I want to shave my face to have to go to like that's awesome they don't want no more muzzies in there that's what it is that's how you keep out terrorism we would never do that yeah yeah

I mean, it's crazy. I mean, speaking of the algorithm shit, can I talk about these cults? Yes, please. This is fascinating. I had no idea. So back in the day, if you want to start a cult, guess how you had to do it? You had to find people. Old-fashioned way. You had to do it old-fashioned. You had to have a compound. You had to go meet someone. You had to have an idea. It could only go fast. You had to be charismatic. Exactly. Really, you just had to be charismatic. But you have to meet people in person. But you had to put the work in. You had to go talk to someone in the street, which is scary for people. It's all grassroots. Like, it's word of mouth getting, you know what I mean, on the street, boots on the street. Bro, I did not realize all the cults now were digital.

The old school cult way of like meeting a guy, hey, come to my thing. We'll all hang out and talk about consciousness. I didn't think about it. It's all digital and it's crazy. So let me paint a picture. Okay. So...

For example, there's a woman. She's a five-year-old kid and she just had a newborn. She feels kind of sick. She's having postpartum issues. Her body's not good. She's inflamed. She goes to the doctor. The doctor says, hey, you're overthinking it. This is nothing. It's overblown. They gaslight her. What does she do? She finds a mommy group on Facebook. She goes on Facebook and she's like, hey, I'm having all these problems. The group's like, hey, don't eat processed food. Work out. Take care of your health. Take these vitamins. All stuff that's good. She all of a sudden feels way better.

She's like, these doctors don't know what the fuck they're talking about. This mommy group saved me. And the mommy group has like 10,000 people on Facebook. And all of a sudden they say, hey, you just fixed your body. How about you fix your spirit? Oof. That's more important. Oof. And then they bring her into an inner group inside that group that has like 500 people.

And on the intergroup, they're like, hey, you need to unpack your trauma. Buy this course. The course is like 50 bucks and it's just like hours of her talking about it. That's not too bad. Yeah, you're talking about your trauma, unpacking stuff. You know what I mean? So now she's unpacking her trauma. She's like, hey, I think maybe I was abused by my parents. And no matter what happened to them, they were abused. They believed. So it's like, hey, my dad neglected me. Obviously abuse. Hey, my dad hugged me a lot. Was that abuse? And they're like, he was obviously grooming you.

And this is a real case of a real person that's doing this shit. It's wild. And so now she gets into the whole thing. She's like, oh, this is wild. Hey, my son's like wetting the bed. What should I do for that? Well, he's probably being abused. Who's abusing my kid? Well, I don't know. Who's around your kid? Maybe your husband. She goes to the husband. It's like, hey, are you abusing my kid? The husband's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

So now she goes back to the lady and is like, hey, my husband thinks that you're crazy and says you're trying to like break apart our family. She's like, that's exactly what an abuser would say. So now the woman's like, oh, shit, what do I do? The lady goes, hey, I actually have some people down in Florida that have a little community that's safe. You can get away. How about in the night? You just buy a plane ticket.

You can get away from all these vaccinated people, get away from all these crazy people, the Luciferians, and you can get into this community. Don't tell your husband. She packs up all her shit, drives down to Florida, and just leaves her whole family, blocks the number. And all of a sudden, the husband's like, where the fuck did my family go? And now she's completely cut off from everyone, completely insulated, and only able to talk back and forth with this woman, writing down all of her trauma onto emails and shit. Hold on. Is this a service we can sign up for? Yeah.

Like, yeah, how do we get this? How do we do it? Do I send a link? Is there like a link? Yeah, there's a link. There's a signal group. Get your wife out of your life group. Is that the idea? It's a real thing. This is an interesting idea, Mark, that you've clearly foreseen.

fucking develop. Mark, we got a problem. Go flagrant. Summer camp for wives. It's actually beautiful. It's actually brilliant. I can't believe we haven't thought of this sooner. It's great. So then they go down, they say all the shit, da-da-da, and then she's like, okay, it's been two years that this has been happening. She's only able to communicate with this lady. All the posts that go into the Facebook group have to be approved by her. So if you put in something that's like, I think I was abused, the woman would be like, hey, you need to figure out your stuff. I'm not going to approve this. But then she goes, I definitely was abused.

And then all of a sudden all the people in the group are like, "Hey, so was I, I'm with you, dah, dah, dah." They're all backing each other up. Now they're like super, super tight. And then all of a sudden she's like, "Hey, it's Thanksgiving. I'm actually gonna go spend time with my family, but I'm afraid what they're gonna think of my lifestyle. They don't like that I moved." And the woman goes, "Hey, they're not gonna understand you. Tell them what we've been talking about. And I'm telling you right now, they're not gonna get it. They're on a low consciousness and you're on an ascended consciousness. They're not gonna get it." So she goes back to Thanksgiving and she's like, "Yeah, you know, the lunar orbit with the Saturn and my chakras are healed." And the family's like, "You're fucking crazy."

And then she goes back to the woman and goes, "Hey, they said I was crazy." And she's like, "I fucking told you, stop talking to them." And now she's completely integrated into the group. And then maybe one day she's like, "You know what? I'm going to take my kids and try to go rekindle my relationship with my husband. I'm going to go back." Right?

She tells the woman, hey, I'm going to actually go back to my husband. She goes, if you go back, you're giving in to the Luciferians, and I'm going to buy up. I've already bought up your name on every single domain. So if anyone Googles your name, the website's going to show up that I bought, and I'm going to publish all of your shit. All of the trauma that you told me, all the stuff you put in the emails, it's all going to be there. So she's like, fuck, I can't get out.

And then if you try to get out, which a lot of these people have, she's now writing to their employers being like, hey, do you know that this employer that you're prospecting actually did this, this and this and they were abused and they did this abuse, da da da. And then you just stay in the group and it's all digital. It's all happening on these like little micro groups and encrypted channels. And they're all sending money to this woman who doesn't even live in Florida. She lives in Hawaii.

Crazy. So there's no actual physical space where they get to... Yeah, like where did she go to in Florida? So they send her to a community because they have like lax laws on like kidnapping and vaccine shit. So they're like, hey, just go there and you'll be protected. And so they're like, there's other members around if you want to talk to them, but she's like very careful about who they can talk to. All the communication has to go through her. And you keep on buying the courses and they have all this influence. And now there's like thousands and thousands of these cults that exist everywhere.

all under different guises and different agendas for people. Holy shit. I had no idea. How did you hear it? I talked to a dude that infiltrated one of the cults.

And what happened? So there was a couple he infiltrated. He infiltrated one that was like just a legit like old school cult. It was like a sex cult where this dude was just like banging all the members. He infiltrated. What does he do after that? Does he get these guys arrested or what? He got arrested and he was like, no, I was infiltrated. I was trying to shut it down. But no, he like just publishes it and tries to like put attention on it because technically it's not like illegal.

Right. Because it's this huge gray area where they go to the woman, they go, hey, like. Blackmail's illegal. She threatens to blackmail. Well, that's where the illegal stuff happens. But most people don't even come out to even say that. Meaning the organization of the people, the right to assembly or whatever is in the Constitution, right? Yeah. And like freedom of speech, freedom of religion protects a lot of it. Yeah. And so then they go to the woman, they're like, hey, why'd you leave? Why'd you kidnap your kid? She's like, I didn't kidnap my kid. My kids were being abused by my husband. And then they interview the kid and the kid's like, yeah, I think I was abused.

Because she starts convincing the kids. Crazy. And so now there's like thousands of these cults. Yo, if you can't believe Mario, that's the thing. There are enough idiots in this world that will believe this kind of shit. Yeah. Like, yeah. There's a lot of stupid people, bro. And I actually thought there was way less. No. It's a staggering number. No, it's crazy. It sounds kind of sad to say, but there is. And when I mean stupid, like, I'm stupid. You guys are stupid. But there's another level below. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Like where it's like can't even really think for themselves, but they're still operating. They're still in the world, you know, and that those motherfuckers are dangerous. Yeah. Those motherfuckers are dangerous because they're easily susceptible to this type of stuff.

And, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is crazy. And it's like three prongs. So it's like the people can get it. But people are nothing in these fucking idiots. Well, the head is crazy. These like spiritual crazy girls, the head is insane. Right, though? Right, though? Mm-hmm.

How do you know? Yeah. And why do you agree? No, no, because I'm trying to think if I got some crazy retard head. Yeah, dirty, dirty white girl. Like, I'm trying to think the dumbest girl I ever got head from, if it was the best. Al? Nope. Nah. It's usually the ones with daddy issues are. Yeah. I mean, yeah, abused.

Bro, that's what I'm saying. These girls, they probably didn't even have to. Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. These girls, it's not it. Nah. Those girls are so, the ones you're bringing up, they're so self-indulgent. And they stink.

But sometimes they do, but like a lot of time they starfish. Like they're so, the ones that are like doing this to be a model, they're so self-indulgent that they can't even go, what would make that person happy? There's a version of this girl, like this girl is kind of a caricature of the one that we're all kind of thinking, right? But there's a version where it's just like, please, I need to please. How can I please? Those girls are the ones that they throw down.

And it's compulsive. It's like they're pathological about their need to please. And then head is one of them. And it's just fantastic. It's sensational. It's truly sensational. It's sensational. It's a crazy thing. They're a gift. So that's what happens, bro. You get locked down by one of these girls on the street and he's running off with a colt. But you got to be careful, man, who you're not into. It is a...

Yeah, it just sucks that she took the kid. If she just went off and did some stupid kung fu shit. Oh, that's a blessing, dog. You got this dumb bitch out of your life, but she took my kid who's half dumb. Taking the kid is crazy. Yeah, and they use the kid as a fear tool to get you fucking out of there. Wow. But you gotta pick them back, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that shit is crazy. But what do you do? Like, what do you do? Like...

You know how there are certain people that can be hypnotized? Yeah. It's like not everybody, but there are certain people. I wonder if it's a version of that. That shit's a little gay. We had a hypnotist come to my school. He hypnotized like eight people on stage. And then like three people in the crowd passed out.

Because they were also hypnotized. Yeah. That's real cuck shit. How do you get hypnotized watching? That's some real cuck shit, dude. And then the hypnotist is like, see, look, they get it. And I was like, what? But how wouldn't that work? Wouldn't everybody in the room, if you're susceptible to hypnotism, wouldn't everybody in the room, not just the ones in the front, because they're hearing all the same shit. But that's the point. Some of the people that were just watching, the ones that were susceptible. They pick the ones that they think will be easily hypnotized. There's a way to filter them out. There's ways. I imagine. Because let's say, for example, you can't be. Mm-hmm.

and Mark can't be, but me and Akash can. Then we'd be all up on stage and it would only work for half of us. So I'm sure there's a way. I don't know what it is. That's how we get away. I actually don't think it's IQ. I think like for me- No, no, no, no. It's a completely different thing. They said that about, I think RFK was saying that about

The guy that killed his dad. Yeah. Like the scale of your ability to be hypnotized is like one to five or something like that. And the guy who killed his dad was like a 6.5, like some insane off the Richter scale, if you will. And they were saying that's why he might've been susceptible to MKUltra, which was that, those experiments. How do you let someone take over your brain? Come on. Yeah. It's a little gay. It's happening.

Like all the people that are like crazy in politics, like on both sides, the ones that are like, they root for it. Like they're rooting for sports. Yeah. It's like, that's a little too much. Yeah. It's a level of hypnosis. That's why like, that's why that, yo,

No, no, no, no. Rooting for a sports team is stupid. But like, we go in. No, no, no, no. He's right though. He's right though. Like, like rooting for the sports team makes sense, right? That's awesome. It's, it's, it's great. Sure. But like the stakes are low. Yeah, no, no repercussions. Yeah. There's no control and like intimidation. You can leave freely. Yeah, you can leave freely. Yeah.

Yeah, I should be able to read the movie. That's my whole point. Fucking forget it. But like when it becomes your whole identity, and especially when it comes to the politics stuff, when it just becomes your whole identity. Life, bro. But that's what we're talking about with the, you know, there's some motherfuckers out there which like they have no interest. And I don't want to say majority, but like-

Put it this way. One thing I think is really fun. Say it. No, say it. One thing is really fun, and I'm going to say it, but one thing that's really fun about, I think, our podcast is we like to indulge in the crazy conspiratorial shit, right? We have Billy Carson on, and I'll be honest.

90% of the shit he was saying is probably bullshit, right? Like I'm literally watching it. I'm like, there's no fucking way, but I love it. It's fun. It's interesting. I'm like watching an episode of like sci-fi. Maybe 20%, maybe 40% is real. Maybe there's some truth into it, but who fucking knows? I'm not going like, these are the facts, right? Even Graham Hancock's on all these other guys. I'm like, tell me what this could be and let's just indulge. It's a fun little fantasy, right? Yeah.

And I like indulging it. But I also think that we'll have people on where we go, hey, tell us what you think of the world. Because we're interested in truth. We're interested in ideas that go against the grain, for sure. But we're also interested in what we might feel...

is the truth and then we take all these different ideas and we kind of balance them and being comedians we kind of maybe are more intrigued by something that hasn't been said we're intrigued by like a line of thinking that isn't necessarily our own even if we disagree with it we're like ooh no no no he's kind of spitting what the fuck is that the Anunnaki is here okay maybe there's Anunnaki like we like going outside of our emotions yeah

But I and this is like recently comes around. I think that people really do not like going outside their emotions. And it's to the point where I think that they really just want their emotions satisfied. Yeah. And the Internet is a fascinating thing. And Mark and I were discussing this, but which is like before the Internet, if you wanted to grift. Right. You had to figure out the grift. Right.

How do you figure out the grift? You don't know how many people are reading an article in the newspaper. Maybe you knew how many books were sold, but you got to write a whole book. You got to write a whole book. But even before you write the book, you got to see if this book is really being sold a lot and where is it being sold. Now, not only does the internet tell you where the grifts are, it tells you

from the content you're making what you can grift on. You see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like the algorithm... And the views are right there so you know how big the audience is. The algorithm pushes you in the direction of what it wants you to create, right? So if you don't have some real integrity in yourself as a creative...

If all you want is success, if all you want is numbers, it's very easy to just kind of follow that. And I think that's what a lot of people will end up doing, right? You see it, they just pop on certain trends, right? It's like, you even see it like in comedy, right? Like, you know, we'll put out some standup clips, then we'll put out a special, and then we put out the crowd work stuff. And then when people saw that was popular, they're like, oh, I'm going to put out crowd work now. I'm chasing what I think the people like instead of creating the thing that you like.

want to create. And then they'll even like complain that they got to do it. And it's like, fam, go invent some shit, loser. Do you know what I mean? Like, why don't you create the next trend that people do instead of begrudgingly following the thing because you were a slave to the algorithm, create the new algorithm, you know? But,

The algorithm will dictate to the weak-minded creatives what they should be creating because all they want is numbers. They don't want actual, true, authentic creation. And in a way, the people that are consuming are actually manipulating the creators and not the grifters manipulating the innocent people.

I think it becomes a flywheel. They perpetuate. Yeah, they perpetuate themselves. But I guess what I used to think is people were naive. And then they go and they watch some video. People were neutral and then they get pushed this way. And they get pushed in a direction. But largely people are here and I want to stay here. And that's that. Keep me in my echo chamber. I just want to hear what I want to hear. But I don't think the neutral people get radicalized.

I used to think that that was possible and like, oh my God, look what happened. And they get caught in these rabbit holes and then we lost another one. I actually think it's people that already feel these things and they already are maybe a...

easily hypnotized, if you will. There's some folks out there and they already feel it and they're just searching for the validation and then they search into the validation for their opinions and their feelings. And then you have that sweet algorithm where they don't have to search very far. Exactly. Once you watch the whole video, the algorithm is already like, all right, well, here's five more videos about this. And all of them tap into something you're feeling even though they're different.

So if you're anti-establishment, you got 20 different reasons why you can be anti-establishment. And then it starts populating your brain with arguments. And you can see these people, you can see like the people that are the easiest to be grifted on because they all have the same talking points. Like the same, if you were regurgitating the same three or four things, I don't care what it is. It could be politics. It could be about fishing. But if you all have the same three things, okay.

What you are is a person who felt something. You couldn't really describe your feelings. A video satisfied those feelings with arguments, and now you're just spouting them. And so it's, but it's, this has never happened before. Think about that. Back in the day, in order to grift, you had to get lucky. No.

This is why you can't, everyone, whenever one of the truth comes out on one of these red pill guys and you're like, oh, that's the end of him. It's not the end of him because the audience. He'll find a new grift. Well, the audience still wants to hear that content. So they don't care if you were, if you X, Y, and Z. Exactly. It was never about him. Just keep feeding me the content I want to see. That's the thing. It's never about the person.

It's about the utility that that person offers you. What you need is you're feeling satisfied and validated. And as long as that person satisfies and validates them, then he's still useful to you. A lot of times these people don't even love the grifters. They don't care about them. They just satisfy them emotionally. The second the grifters change...

Or culture changes. They're like, oh, fuck that guy. We don't need that guy. Or fuck that girl. We don't need that girl. And the really shrewd grifters keep on changing their grift with culture. And they're constantly adjusting. All of a sudden, they're talking about this new thing. And all of a sudden, they're talking about another thing. And all of a sudden, and they've never spoken about it before, but they're really passionate about it all of a sudden. Mm-hmm.

When I see that, I'm like, oh, this motherfucker is committed to the grift. And sometimes they don't even know they are. They see themselves as heroic. Yeah. You know? So it is an interesting thing that kind of happens where it's like...

If you're truly, you care about creating authentically, sometimes the thing you authentically care about lines up with culture and then you have this amazing lightning rod moment, right? Because you really care about it and culture really needs it and boom, we're right there. And then sometimes culture moves in a different direction and you're not passionate about that thing.

And if you all of a sudden jump over because you're like, oh, I just need the views. I need to do it. We could have on a different version of Billy Carson every single week and it would be five million view episode every single time. That's not what the show is. Yeah. We like indulging in that. And then we want to speak to some guy running for president. Like, that's what's fun because we like the different ideas. I think we curated an audience that for the most part also enjoys that. Yeah. They like indulging in the wild shit, but then they also want to hear some truth and some real shit. Mm hmm.

It's so easy to just make money doing that. Yeah. It really is. But it is a choice. Yeah. This guy was saying like some of these cult leaders don't mean to be cult leaders.

Like, they post their, like, little course about, like, how to heal your inner chakra or whatever. And then people are like, hey, you cured me of cancer. Hey, you helped me escape abuse. And you're like, oh, this shit is fine. And then you double down. Yep. And then people are, like, coming to you more and more and more. And, like, they're buying more courses. And then all of a sudden this spirals for 10 years. And then you become a coliar. Yeah. Honestly, a lot of them, I don't blame them in any way because I think that they might not know it. Just like that example. Like, it's...

It might be their genuine passion. They might truly believe. Like, Billy, I feel like, believes it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I truly believe it. So I'm not going, oh, we're knocking this dude. And I think the most effective ones are the ones that are committed. They truly believe it. Yeah. But there are ones who you could tell are just jumping.

My antennas go up whenever they're selling some course or something like that. If you're selling anything, if you just believe in something, believe and you should spread the word. But if there's money attached to it, I'm like... The second you got a course, I'm skeptical. I'm trying to think of what the psychology is of the person who goes toward that thing. Talk to us. I don't know. I think there is some level of...

I don't know if trauma is the right word, but some level of hurt and feeling something that pushes you toward a certain grifter and a certain thing. And then once you find that and it resonates with you, now that's all I want to hear. Red pill guys, not the people preaching, but the people following, are hurt by women. I could have easily been one of those guys.

I easily, I wasn't getting any girls. I was whatever. And then there's some anger and hurt there. And if this thing makes you feel better about it and it leads to a little bit of success, even if it's fleeting success, I'm in. And that's all I want to hear. I don't care who the fresh and fit, whatever the drama is. I don't give a fuck. Cause they're, they're telling me what I want to hear. I give everything I'm in. Yeah. And if it's not you, if you quit, I'm finding someone else. And that's why I get, I couldn't, you put this into perfect words. Cause I couldn't figure out, like I never really blamed Fox news. Yeah.

Because the audience was fucking there. You're telling them what they want to hear. They need it. They need it. And there was another thing I was trying to, I couldn't remember. I can't even remember the example. And then Fox will flip-flop depending on who the frontrunner is. And you know why they do? Because the audience needs it. They're not evil. They're not puppet. Stop telling me the truth. No, no, no, no. We like Trump. Tell me why Trump is good. And then everybody at Fox gets in line. I've done shows with these guys. I've seen them off camera.

Talked to them off camera. Had them all tell me that Trump is a bozo. And then seeing them- Tucker. Lick Trump's balls. Tucker. When they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that, to be fair- But not just Tucker. Yeah. All of them. And to be fair to him, I used to really judge him for that. But as we're having this conversation, yeah, he's giving the people what they want to hear. If I don't give it to them, someone else will. Fox didn't get to number one in the ratings because they manipulated it. They got to number one because nobody was telling these people what they wanted to hear. Every,

other news was going one way and they said oh there's a whole group of people that want to hear something else let's just feed that market big gray space let's just feed it what they want to hear yeah the people will tell you what they need i'm curious as a catholic how do you feel um when you see like adults getting baptized and converting do you see that as grifting or are you like happy that more people are joining like that the people that are getting baptized are grifting yeah i

No, I mean, I see it as people looking for community and purpose, and they found this religion that gives them that. So whether they convert to Islam, assuming that they're good faith actors, then I see it as them just being able to subscribe to some type of greater mission. Because I recently saw a video with... Who was the guy we had on Russell Brand? Yeah. Oh, Russell. Russell catching that Christian grift right now. That's what I'm saying. When we spoke to him, he was very...

Buddhists, all that shit. Eastern, yeah. Oh, he saw that. Didn't they get married in India, him and Katy Perry? Yeah, I think. Yeah. So when you see that, that doesn't like kind of upset you. I'm like,

I would look at that and be like, nah, I think you're kind of just like bullshit. That's the thing. You don't know, like you can't get the size of someone's mind. So like you can make all these speculations and be like, yo. Which is truly, and I'm not even making like a joke. This is the most, that's the most God fearing, actually religious way to look at it. You have the best perspective, which is empathy and love. And I can't get, I can't assume. Also, why would any Christian question it?

because if they truly believe it, why would someone else not? You know what I mean? Like it almost takes skepticism of the belief in order to see it in others. Yeah, of course you converted. So did I. It's the truth. It's like somebody moving to New York and going, this is the best city in the world.

None of us go, this motherfucker lying. I do. But that's because I don't believe it already. Y'all believe it already. No, I'm saying us. Like we are the devout New York Catholics. So when anybody goes, yo, this is the one and true greatest city in the world, we go, of course. Finally, you see it. This guy's an idiot. Everyone else sees it. And lines up because this city molests you every chance. So actually, he's a perfect...

We like the abuse. You like the abuse? Yeah. That's funny. Wow. But I do think if someone's going to join a major religion, I think every major religion is, like, a good organization to be in generally. Like, they persisted this long because they're able to sustain... Like, the fruits of what they preach are good, whether it's, like, Islam, Judaism, Christianity. But, like, so I would prefer someone...

triple down on Catholicism or Islam than go into like some fringe weird cults random cults that I don't know anything about that's only been around 20 years and the fruits of it might be poison gotcha you know what I mean and there might have been iterations of this that were fringe weird cults

Throughout history. Well, you could argue every religion starts as a cult. But to your argument about time, time starts to weed out the shit that doesn't really offer utility. So now, a few thousand years later, you're like, okay, this might have some things that are a little bit difficult to do, but the community is fucking great. I feel great when I go to church. You help people, treat your neighbors yourself. Everybody can have a run. Champagne can have a run. Nike, been here. Yeah? I trust Nike. Yeah. So it's almost like a Darwinian selection of the product of it. Absolutely.

Some cult that started in 2000 and everyone's getting abused and they're taking all the money from people and there's a death cult and they're killing each other off. That's not going to last more than a decade. I want us to have the cult of people who enjoy information they might not agree with, like to hear it out, willing to change their minds, willing to make a new opinion. The cult of...

What is that shit I was talking about in the beginning of the episode that I am? Prisoner of the moment. Prisoner of the moment. That's what we should have. Prisoner of the coolest information that you just heard. But I do really want that. And I think maybe I thought everybody is like this because the people that I've ended up becoming friends with are all like this. We say different ideas. Maybe we agree. Maybe we don't. We discuss them. Maybe I'm convinced. Maybe I'm not convinced. Maybe you're convinced. Yeah.

And it's like a really fun way to go about it. And it could be about sports that mean nothing. It could be about life that's really important. But for us, that's always been the kind of dialogue. And everybody says they want that. They're like, let's share ideas. And the best idea will win. And everybody says that.

But based on what is being consumed, if you look at right wing, people are only consuming right wing shit and left wing people are only consuming left wing shit. And they're both spouting this nonsense that we should be able to have conversations. When are y'all listening to the convos? Yeah.

Right. One thing I try to do is when I see a headline that really excites me and I want to believe it, actually read the fucking article before you decide. Oh, yeah. This headline confirms everything I believe in. I don't need to read the article. If you read the article nine times out of 10, you're going to be disappointed. Yeah. Maybe I got shit. They say they say if there's a question mark in the title of the article, it's always no. So it's like, does Pakistan still exist? And you get hyped. You're like, well, yeah.

And then it's like, yeah, no, did they get rid of Pakistan? No, they didn't. Are Pakistanis bad people? No, they're not. They're just worse than us. But yeah, it is. Like, I wonder if kids will grow up in this information age and have the ability to discern between the grift and...

Yeah. And I wonder if they'll develop that in the same way that we developed the ability to discern between a real phone call from somebody and like a Nigerian prince that needs $10,000 and you get to get the inheritance. Like our parents don't know really about that. So they get caught. We don't get caught because we're like, that's ridiculous. Now they're getting us with AI using our own voices and being like, your sister's kidnapped. Yeah.

I think the grift evolves. I think whatever these kids are going to get tricked by or shit they don't know about yet, and their next generation will laugh at them for it. If you told me 10 years ago there's going to be con artists calling in your mom's voice with AI saying, send me money, I'd be like, what the fuck are we? It's not a sci-fi movie. And they're going to look at our grifts and be like, when you're telling the story, the whole time I was like, this bitch is on Facebook? You're a fucking, what are you, 90? Of course you're going to get conned on Facebook. They're going to say that about us with AI phone calls or whatever.

Sure. But then they'll have anything. He said like the remedy if someone's trying to get into a cult. And there's no real definition of a cult. Like to me, it's kind of just like transparency of information and then control. Like if they're like, oh, you can't leave or like you can only communicate through like me or X people. Then I'm like, okay, it's probably a cult. But he's like, if someone's interested and they're like, hey, I'm going to go to this like consciousness retreat and I'm going to go enlighten my thing. He's like, support them.

He's like, it sounds counterintuitive, but back them up because that goes against the programming. The programming is they're not going to get you. They're going to call you crazy. And when they come back from the street, be like, so how was it? What did you guys talk about? And be open-minded and genuinely curious because then that goes against what they're telling you. It's like, oh, well, that's clever. What if they come back saying some wild shit? You have to be like, oh, that's nice. Yeah, you ask them. Be like, oh, yeah. And why can you only talk to the group leader? And why can they only approve your information? Yeah.

And you can leave if you want. And they're like, oh, well, technically. And then by asking the questions without being critical, they start realizing themselves, whoa, this is a little bit controlling. We have to hope that they're right. We would hope. But then again, yeah, some people just are going through something that's so fucking difficult that they're like,

Yeah. It's the same thing with drugs. It's like you see a lot of people are drug addicts. And if you've never had some of your family or like a loved one that was addicted, like it's hard to understand. But they're what they're going through is so gut wrenching. They can't even really fathom what life is like without the drug.

Yeah. Like, it's just so hard. So I think the same thing happens with maybe a cult. It's like, it's just what they're dealing with is so fucking horrible. And that's the only thing that makes them feel like a little bit less bad. Yeah. So you have empathy for these people that get it's not get tricked because, again, they're getting the thing they want, which is that little moment of feeling good that they don't have. So I used to think it was them getting tricked.

It's not really, and especially not anymore. Like these are the people seeking out the thing that they really fucking want. Like I remember in Nick's group chats every single season, we had a best fucking team in the league. I want to hear that. You know what I'm saying? Like this is the information I want. So we got to, the way that we look at our sports teams, people are looking at politics. They're looking at life. They're looking at every decision. And yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's, yeah, it is crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. So I think that's the only thing you can do is like arm the people with the tools to know like, is this a cult? Is what I'm doing completely dogmatic? Also the tools to like understand like a grift. Yeah. Like to understand what that is, what that and like why. And again, it's not to say that these people that are doing a grift are even aware of it. Yep.

But if you see someone bounce into every new trendy thing... Also, if we nourish and love all of the people around us, they're less likely to seek one of those things. It all starts at home. That's your community you could affect. But then if you're looking beyond it, you're just like, okay, what is the thing? How do you help not just your community? Or how do you affect positively not just your community? I think the way that we thought...

The way that we thought things worked with freedom of speech, I think, was the conversation was always like, put all the ideas out there and the best ideas win. That was this idea, right? And what nobody's really admitting is that's kind of not how it works. You put all the ideas out there and then people just gravitate to whatever ideas make them feel good. So knowing that,

obviously I don't know a better system than having free speech. I'm the biggest free speech advocate. We need free speech to the end. I love it. And I do think that there are good ideas out there that people eventually attach to, but it is something that we at least have to look at. Like I would love to talk to Elon about this. Capitalism is the best economic system. That doesn't mean there aren't flaws in capitalism that can be exploited. Free speech is the best system for speech, but that doesn't mean that it can't be exploited. That's interesting. Capitalism is a good way of looking at it. It's like,

the best, healthiest food isn't the food that's always consumed. Right. The food that makes you feel good Yeah.

is what gets consumed. Right. But sometimes that food that makes you feel good can be bad for you. Yeah. Bad for society in a whole. Yeah. My hope is with more polarization, open convo eventually swings it back because we're still looking at the micro where it's like the internet's only been around two decades or some shit. Yep, yep. So it's like I'm hoping on the macro with enough time that goes by, people are like, oh, we're going to slowly swing back. These things that we thought made us feel good in the short term were actually super negative. And I think that's a really smart way of looking at it, which is like...

One, pendulum swings, because there are cultural pendulum swings. It happens all the time. An example of that is I see people being critical of Rogan. They're like, oh, he's all conservative right now. He went to Texas, he's all conservative. And I really thought about it. And I was like, I don't know, there's a friend of mine, I know him. Has he changed? And my suspicion with Rogan is that he's always had maybe an aversion to authority or being told to live a certain way.

And I imagine when he was younger, the people telling him how to live were conservatives going...

You shouldn't be doing drugs. You're very puritanical people. Yes, the puritanical conservative. Don't be gay. Don't be gay, don't whatever. And then he probably rejected that. Don't have tattoos, don't do this shit. He rejected that, right? And that probably made him very democratic. And now the people telling him what to do are liberals going, you better get this vaccine. You better do these fucking drugs. You better get in line. Don't tell these jokes. These jokes are offensive. So now the rejection of that positions him as...

as this person who's conservative. But in reality, and I think that's why a lot of us all go, well, now I think I'm feeling more conservative. When I was younger, I was more Democrat. No, no, it's just who's telling you how to live. And whoever's telling you how to live, if you have a little bit of a free spirit, you start going,

Well, I don't like you telling me how to live. So I'm going to look at these guys over here, see if they're telling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, I'm trying to wrap my mind around this idea. And I couldn't, I wanted to figure it out ideally before Rogan even bring it there. But like, I'm kind of letting go of this idea that there are political parties. I think there's just personality profiles or personality types. Because the extreme, oh, we've all said this, the extreme conservative and the extreme liberal, it's the same personality type.

We are not special or smart or whatever. We're just a different personality type that might be the anti-authoritarian, don't tell me what to do personality type. I've been trying to figure this out. And like, I don't even think we have that many political beliefs that we truly feel as much as our personality profile lends itself to this thing in this moment in time. Yeah, like what is happening culturally and how does it impact our identity?

And then depending on how it impacts our identity, whoever's defending our identity will gravitate to, and whoever is rejecting our identity, we'll move away from. And I think black people probably felt this way. They're like, oh, wow, Democratic Party is really like kind of listening to our concerns about like racism and the civil rights movement. And they all gravitated towards that, right? And I think maybe even now they're like,

All right. Have they done much for us since then? And maybe they have. I don't know. But there's a little. We are looking at it like, wait a minute. We keep.

supporting this party, but we're not getting anything out of it, you know what? Our vote isn't guaranteed. And that simply is just an identity thing, which is like, hey, who's going to help us? And I think a lot of people behave in that way. And then since we look at American politics as a binary, we start going, oh, you're a conservative or you're whatever. It's like, no, no, we didn't change. Maybe our identities changed a little bit. Sure. And the things that we value change. You have a family and then all of a sudden that's a concern. But

Who we are hasn't really changed that much. How the different political parties are impacting us has changed. And we will always just gravitate towards the one that feels like they're not telling us what to do or at least supporting the way that we want to live.

I think that that might, I think there's something there. So it's not like I'm in the middle. Like, no, we're not in the middle. Yeah. It's just culture has changed. And the way that the parties are talking, the things that they're branding themselves around change. And as that happens, we pivot. Trans wasn't an issue in the fucking 40s. In the early 2000s. Right. So it's like there was the parties couldn't argue about that. Yeah.

And now if that is a major issue for you, you're going to lend yourself to whatever party is more supportive. Yeah. Right? Like if you're a Jewish person and you're super pro-Israel, that's really important identity for you. You're going to go to whatever side is more supportive. Mm-hmm.

So it's not this like in the middle position that people talk about all the time. Yeah. And conservatives in the 90s were the anti-free speech people burning the rap CDs. Yeah. NWA, we hate that. Now conservatives are super free speech. It's a really weird shift that's happening. So can people act like we're the ones changing? No, the parties change. Does that make sense? Like what the party's value changes. How much of that is a reflection of us though?

You would think more, but since conservatives have flip-flopped on what it is you can and can't say, have they realized that their constituents feel a different way? That's what I think. So they're reacting to the... They're the grifters. They're telling us what we want to hear. They're reacting to the algorithm. Tails wagging the dog kind of vibe. And as we tweet, as conservatives, their trademark or whatever, like...

Hallmark beliefs might be pro-gun, pro-life, maybe, for example. Everything else is negotiable. Mm-hmm. Whoever is the fucking, the guy that has the highest profile that is pro-life and pro-gun, whatever else they say, I'm with that, too, because they're with those two things. Those are the things I care about the most. So maybe that's what it is. And then if they see that, like, if the other politicians that are conservative see conservatives care about this the most and they're following these guys, all right, we're with all that shit, too. Mm-hmm.

It's crazy out here, dog. It's really wild out here. Yeah. But it is good to have these convos. Because I think it is like uncharted territory for us old dudes. Like you probably grew up with this, but us old dudes that are like, we're kind of analyzing and seeing how this is working in real time. Life was, information was very easy for us growing up. Yeah. Like I don't think your generation realizes that. Like what was true and what was not true,

Was definite and decided. Like there was very little gray area. Mm-hmm.

I mean, did you, I felt, what I feel now with information. Overwhelmed. Is, yeah, is overwhelmed. When I was young, I knew everything. Yeah. I knew nothing. But I had the illusion of feeling like I knew everything. Because there was only one source. Exactly. And then you just kind of, I don't believe in that. And they weren't even that far. One of the biggest things I've noticed is that when we were younger, a fact was a fact.

Now, my fact is different from your fact. And I'm like, what is happening? Yeah, we live in our own reality. The arrogance that we have. Yeah, it's great. The arrogance. I think people could benefit from learning how media is taught. And in media school, they teach you that there's fact and then there's truth. And truth is fact through a perspective. Ah, yeah. That's good. And a lot of people don't know the difference between a fact and a truth. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I didn't until you said that. So we just learned that right now. But it is true, and these are the things that you've got to kind of... That's media school day one. Yeah. But how crazy is that, that now you've got to educate kids on the media just so that they can digest it? Yeah. I'm telling you, man, there's this, you know, you always say it, ignorance is bliss. And it was... Consuming media back in the day was way more blissful.

So are the Chinese happier than us? So I think about that, right? We gotta go full China, dude. So I think about that. I think there's a way that they might be simply, and this is, I think, why they restrict so much information that comes from the West. If they have nothing to compare themselves to, they might. But Western media and content is so sexy. Like, it's just, you can't,

dopamine dopamine dopamine it's just the best like it's just the best like why would you want to live any other way i'm sorry you can't you just fucking can't like it's the best the things we reward are the best i was watching that three body problem movie and it's it's interesting culturally in that like all the characters that are like the heroes are heroes because they're smart and the ones that aren't and heroes and they have to like sacrifice themselves and die

because they weren't smart enough. Like they really reward intellect and it's important. In America, it's like the smart guy usually says something condescending to the tough guy and the tough guy punches him in the face and then fucks his girl. And that's awesome. Arnold Schwarzenegger is our biggest guy.

He's like, yeah, he just shoots everyone. He's jacked. He's awesome. Isn't that great? That's how you solve every fucking problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just awesome. So, and the reality is more people can relate to not being the smartest guy. Yeah. And a smart guy being condescending to them. And in that moment, being frustrated and be like, this fucking guy thinks he's smarter than me. I'm going to punch him in his fucking face. Doesn't this white girl know I can pump fake on her? That's it. This rich white bitch that's sitting front row, doesn't know the rules of the game, is doing cry faces to me. She gets swung on. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's wild out here. Kind of cool. Okay. What else we got, guys? I know that you guys got some cool shit that you want to show us. Oh, yeah. We were talking about AI just a second ago. We got some fun AI stuff. So there's a patron. We have a patron. And there's a patron named Markeia who had tickets to Schultz's MSG shows Friday and Saturday. And she gave the Saturday ones away to another patron, which is an awesome thing to do. Great community. Join our patron. We set up a...

AI competition. And whatever you sent in, whoever sent in the best AI, we were going to give the tickets away too. So I went through all the stuff. I picked the winner. But I first wanted to share some of the

Do you want to jump on? What? Do you want to jump on? Yeah. Shared some of the other submissions, some of our honorable mentions and things like that. First, started out with just some fun images. I was like, these are impressive that people could make these. That looks like his NFTs. Whoa. Roman Trump. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So the next one is some muddy Indian. That's a married woman, bro. I can't look at her. That's a married woman. Yo, curve your eyes. The dot is married. Yeah.

Not always. Wait, really? It's supposed to be, but not now. It's also like... Hold on, is this a trick? No. Is that like me as a girl or something? No, that'd be way better. You're not that hot. Hold on, this might be a trick. Then some guy just sent in a photo of himself or it's AI. I don't know, but I really like that image. Honorable mention. That's like Ball Borat.

holy shit this was fat too look at down there this was for mark apparently these were all in a church oh that's not right that's not right i thought that's fine that's awesome that's not right that's too cartoon i don't like when it gets goodness fucking gracious crazy right that is just what is going on even i like that i like that yeah yeah i like that that's fun oh my goodness

That one's from Mark? These people don't exist? These are not human beings? These are objects. You can objectify them. A couple redheads. And then we got two videos. I was pretty impressed. We had two videos. That's not a real person. Is that his dick in between? Now you think this would have won, right? That was a sick video. That woman doesn't exist and then that guy's dick isn't real. Look at her tattoos. They all are warping.

Oh, that's what you were looking at? I'm a connoisseur. Oh my God. I mean, even the foreskin is moving. This is incredible. It's only going to get better, dude. That's what's crazy. This is the worst thing we'll ever be. Oh my fucking God. He's not circumcised. All right, so the actual winner. None of those won. None of those won. This one also is. Oh!

That's almost one. That's almost one. Get this bigger. Zoom in. Zoom in. This is fun. Zoom in. Look at Andrew.

Alex's pussy got bald. Son, what is up with your pussy, Al? I don't know. They gave me a log. I thought it was a nutsack until he said it. Now, Al's pussy looked like one of them chimpanzee noses. Have you seen the monkeys with the pink? Yeah, the bonobo nose. Why does Akash have a dick?

I don't know. That shit might be Akash. You got some good hangage on that. That's pretty decent. You got like weird oblong pussy lips, Mark. No, my mark's face is awesome. One lip is longer than the other. This shit had me done. Yeah, why you got Joel Embiid face? That shit had me done. Nah, bro. Next. All right, that almost won. That almost won. This is actually what won. This is so cool. God, fuck me, though. Oh, wow. I'm already cringing right now. Oh, my God. Oh, God. David.

The voice sounds good. Yo! Ah, yo! What? Really good. Crazy. Ah.

That sounds like it. I mean, this is remarkable.

He has no way out of this. Well, actually, I don't know. This is fire, though. Action.

This is crazy. I mean, this is incredible. This is fire. This is fire. Damn, I wanted to hear me.

crazy right that's unreal shout out to who was that shout him out on the pod yo yeah I hit him he's awesome he's gonna come to the show I'm gonna like talk I'm hanging with this yeah what's his name I have to pull it up I can't remember off the top of my head if you pull it up or put it in the thing

Shouts, dog. That was fucking crazy. That was... It really sounded like y'all. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy, right? I'm gonna rap, I think. No, you sounded good. I'm good at rap. You sounded good. I'm gonna do it. I got it. Hey, write me some shit, yo. That was fire. He

He had to have written that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were speculating. His name's Jake. His name's Jake. Shout out to Jake. I think what Jake did is I think he wrote it and then I think he rapped it. And then put my filter voice on his voice. That's smart. And then your voice on his voice. Because the flow was good. I mean, the Minion line grew is so awesome. That's insane. Yeah, I was amazed. I mean, that's such an awesome song. I'm like...

I'm super impressed by that. Insane. Unreal. That's the coolest thing. But also just bar for bar. I thought it was really clever. Really good. Yeah. I'm bringing back a poo. The others are bringing back a poo. Five. That's awesome.

That was really great. Gaslit was in there. Hezekiah Walker's in there. I was like, Dubai fan. Do you know who he's a cultural reference? Topical. Hell of a topical. That's amazing. I want him to make more. I just keep making them. Shake. Shake. One more time. That was incredible. Yo, hey, Rap, you got about one month left. Yo, sorry. You got one month left until it's over for all of y'all. Jake, you're a talented man. Yo, matter of fact, all those are Patreon. What's it called? Let's...

Let's just do Patreon now. Y'all want to do Patreon now? Fuck yeah. All right, let's do Patreon now. We got more stories. What else we got? We got to talk about Yeezy's porn. He's coming out with a porn studio. We got to talk about, do you see the guy licking the kid's face? That was crazy. Biting his ear. That was crazy. Kaitlyn Clark's contracts. Meeting Matthew McConaughey when we were in Austin. So let's do Patreon now. Obviously, y'all know this week is crazy, so we're going to knock this out today. Come join us on Patreon if y'all want to fuck with that conversation. Patreon.com slash flagrant. And then, yeah, let's get it in.