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Debate ROAST: REAL Reason Biden is Running & Taylor Swift Truth Exposed

2024/7/2
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Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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The debate between Trump and Biden is analyzed, highlighting Trump's win and Biden's concerning performance. The discussion questions Biden's fitness for office and suggests Kamala Harris' unpopularity is strategic to prevent Biden's replacement.
  • Trump won the debate.
  • Biden's performance was concerning.
  • Kamala Harris' unpopularity may be strategic.

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America. Last week we witnessed a one-of-a-kind event. A felon destroyed a government official. No, not that one. I'm talking about the debate. Trump did something we've never seen before. He took down a vegetable and Sleepy Joe proved he's the modern-day JFK because his fucking brain was all over the place. Listen, Kamala may be the Jamaican one, but Biden looked like he had a blood clot if you ask me. He got more drool on that podium than the Hak Tua girl with a sinus infection. Now,

The question everyone's asking is who won the debate. And it depends. Sorry, depends. You know, the adult diapers that allowed these two Metamucil monkeys to talk for 90 minutes without a piss break. I mean, Trump's bladder must have looked like Lizzo's yoga ball. And let's be honest, Biden didn't make it all the way through. His underwear were more soaked than a Dubai strip mall. Trump...

easily won the debate, which I'm sure he'll never bring up again. Biden's performance was frankly terrifying. Biden took pauses so pregnant Alabama declared them human life. It was so concerning, even CNN said he should no longer be running for president. Hey,

CNN. He's already the fucking president. Why are we all okay with this? This is the most important job in the world. Would you let Biden do any other job? If he was the now CEO of Apple, you would sell your shares in a heartbeat. I wouldn't let him run Apple. I wouldn't let him eat a fucking apple. It's applesauce only for this guy, okay? What about babysitting? You're gonna let Biden babysit? Fuck

No, the only person letting Biden babysit is Casey Anthony. So it begs the question, why on earth is Biden still running? Now, is he a maniacal, power hungry narcissist? Maybe. Or is he a man of the people? Is it because he's the last line of defense against the bigger threat to our country? No, not Trump. A woman who has the charm of a general ward.

and the cackle that would make Van Gogh sew his ear back on just to cut it off again. The Wicked Witch of the West Indies, Kamala Harris. Sure, Biden has the plane on autopilot, but at least we don't have Kamala Akbar in a cockpit. So here we are, America, the greatest reality show in history. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. ♪

What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flag Ridge. Obviously, we got to talk about this debate, man. Did everybody see the debate? Yes, sadly. I saw the important part. Why did you cook Kamala like that? I loved it. I had a good one for Kamala that wasn't in there, but she's Jamaican and Indian, so she makes her own wigs. That's good. But I do think that Kamala's job security.

And I wonder if they do this shit on purpose. Like, you know, sometimes we, yeah. Yeah. So like, sometimes we assume that these political parties are idiots, right? Like we see a lot of the politicians are like, yeah, they're fucking retards. Like they don't know what the hell they're talking about. They make mistakes all the time. They're bumbling. But,

Is it job security to give Joe Biden the most unlikable VP? Yeah. So that he never has to worry about his job. Yeah. Because if Gavin Newsom... Now, I know people hate Gavin Newsom, like everybody in L.A. and all these other motherfuckers hate him. But there are people that love him. He would probably win. And he looks like a politician. Yeah. If he was Biden's VP...

I think they're yanking Biden. That's a good point. Because they probably choose someone who can get a swath of votes that they need, but also they don't want. What's that QB2 thing that we were talking about? Oh, yeah. You don't want a backup quarterback. It was Cam Newton, who's too good

To where if the team starts losing, all of a sudden the press is going, hey, put in Cam, whatever. So you kind of want a backup quarterback that's not going to challenge for that position at all. Which is part of why Kaepernick didn't get signed. Because it's like, if you're struggling and he comes in, theoretically wins three games in a row, we've got a whole fucking quarterback controversy. So I bet a lot of starting quarterbacks were not lobbying for Colin Kaepernick to be their backup. I wonder if they actually manipulate the media to make Kamala...

less likable. I mean, she does a good job of helping him. Well, she doesn't do anything. I've never heard, I haven't heard anything about anything she's done except her laughing. I think they quite, I think they muzzle her. Yeah. Because she was, I think we were ready to like her, but she just fumbled it somehow. Just said a few things we didn't like and then we're like, now we're done. We're good. I think we were saying this on a different app, but like a Jamaican and an Indian with no opinions. Yeah, you've never said it before. I don't believe this. Yeah, they've canceled each other out. Yeah. Okay. So you guys saw the debate or what? Yes. Okay, thoughts?

I mean, it was a fucking nightmare. It was an abject nightmare. I will say on the positive side. Trump bodied him, but also just like, he's saying a lot of wild shit, too. What is like the pro-abortion ruling or the anti-abortion ruling? Everybody wanted it. It's like, I don't think so. If I'm Republican moderate, I'm looking at that like, no, that's why we didn't destroy in the midterms. Yeah, because we passed that fucking the Supreme Court overturned Roe. Yeah, it's it's a performance and it's what you say and how you say it.

Trump lied. Biden couldn't speak. So what did Trump lie about, bro? If you saw your tweet and I was so frustrated by everything he did, it's the best everything. Oh, every expert is saying what I did is just that everybody did lie. But I'm saying, what did he lie about? Please just pull it up. It's almost every time he opened because I thought that the Democrats did that beautifully. They were like,

all right, we fucked this one up. Biden shit the bed, but we need to position Trump in a way. And, and, and Biden essentially was like, yo, I didn't do good, but at least I told the truth. So now Trump is this liar, but I bet Biden lied too. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. We expect politicians to lie. So it's not that. That's the thing. Like I,

Like, this is a job interview. I think the amount of lying was so far past the point. There always are fact-checking on debates. There's always fact-checking. I think the amount of lying. If he said one thing, he could have done better. Or one thing, he would do differently. Everything he did was the best. He was just doing feelings, no facts. That's all. That's what he did. Which is fair, but it ain't. It's fun. It's a fun part of the pie. It's a fun part of the debate. Do you want to hear some feelings, no facts? Yeah. He said that. Facts, no feelings, or feelings, no facts? This is feelings, no facts. Trump said that everybody wanted Roe versus Wade overturned. Yeah.

Trump claims are again, this from CNN. People were upset at me about that post about the abortion post I put up. I thought that was a very reasonable question. Me too. Nine months. I just I asked for everybody who hasn't seen it. I just posted on my Instagram. I was like, yo, because there was a discussion in the debate where Biden and Trump were talking about abortions at nine months. Yeah. And Biden wouldn't give a declarative answer about how it's wrong.

Like he was being a little loosey-goosey on it. And Trump was like, because he doesn't have to answer that ridiculous statement because no one has ever. I hate that. I hate when they do this. No, see, that's. I hate when they do this. You're gay. No, you're gay. You're gay. No, no, you're being gay. I am. I am. You're being gay. Wait, wait, wait. He's being gay. Let him do that gay shit. He got some scoops. It's July.

Cut that shit. You had your month. So he'll answer questions about golf. He'll challenge those. But when Trump is like, they're aborting babies at nine months, Biden doesn't have to acknowledge that? No. The golf thing, I got it now. You got to talk about your handicap. So check it. Mark had a good point about this. And...

He said that it was so much like the gun laws where Democrats are like, why do you need a rocket launcher? And Republican politicians don't want to say, yeah, we don't need rocket launchers. We should get we should outlaw rocket launchers because they feel that their constituents will be upset about it.

So Biden's lack of an answer, the fact that he couldn't just be like, yo, yeah, taking a baby out there at nine months for no fucking reason is, yeah, you're killing a baby. Yeah. The fact he couldn't just say that straight up is the reason why I post it. I was like, wait, is this even a discussion? I thought everybody's on the same page. But I think that's more of a fumble than it is him avoiding answering the question or responding to it. Oh, like it was really a fumble because in the past he has responded.

vocally said like, no, that's ridiculous. Okay, that's fair. One fucking senator said some stupid comment and they were being... The Virginia dude. Yeah, and he was being like, what's it called? Hyperbolic. You don't be hyperbolic about abortion. People ran with that shit as if all Democrats want abortion at nine. Okay, so people were upset in the comments and it was really funny in the comment section because half the people were like, yeah, that's crazy to do that. And I'm looking at those comments like, all right, yeah, those are sane people. And then other people are like,

You're a fucking monster for even posting this. You're a man. You don't have a right to say this. I'll be honest. I spoke to a few people and we know at least one of them. And they said up to any point in time, they think it's okay to do. And it's their body. Not me. And then it's a, and then it's a parasite.

And like, it's a parasite until it comes out of me. Now, that's what they said. And I tried to just ask questions. They're like, you're not going to change my mind about this at all. I mean, the only time is if it's the life of the mother. That's what I said. I was like, if it's the life of the mother, of course. But if it's not, you're lazy. You're lazy. You had time. Don't give me that shit. You had time. You procrastinated. We all procrastinate. It happens, but you pay the price.

If you looked at this thing as a parasite for eight months, why are you waiting? Yeah, who would have a worm in them for eight months? Yeah. You know what I mean? Carry it around an extra 30 pounds. Shout out, RFK. How long was that worm in his brain? He's got to get that worm aboard. He really does have to do that. He can get that worm aboard. He was right, though. He could do better than them in the debates. RFK won that debate, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. He might have won that debate. I mean, they did the right thing by not having him there because America would be in disarray right now. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, America would literally be going, I'm voting for the worm brain guy. Yeah. What the fuck is happening in this country? Where the best possible candidate just admitted that a worm ate their brain. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's where we are. That's what I'm asking myself. Where are we? Yeah. Yeah. Here's a theory I've heard that the Democrats. About abortion or Democrats? Which you want to stay on abortion? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the abortion thing. There's a weird disconnect or whatever cognitive dissonance where you don't want to admit at a certain point it's taking a life because that allows you to be okay with it.

it. My general feeling, and this is going to probably upset both sides, once it has a heartbeat, that's a life. I don't know how it's not a life, definitionally. You're taking a life. If you decide I'd rather take the life now than have him live an entire life or her where he's unwanted, I can respect that decision. But the idea that it's not taking a life is crazy. It's as crazy as a fucking zygote at

at a, what do you call it, an IVF farm is a life. That's not a life. This is like, you guys are both being crazy. Neil Brennan said to me, it's kind of killing, kind of a life. And he's like, that's why it's so hard because it's not really killing, but it's not really, what is it? And so now no one has an answer. Fair enough. But the funniest thing from Biden on that- Nine months-

that shit what are we even talking you're a murder what's he kicking for it kicks back bro you are engaging with the kid the kid is in there pounding you out yeah you're killing something but the kid's kicking a woman you know what I mean what do we do with woman kickers we gotta take them out dude

That's what happens. If you're kicking a woman for nine months, you might have to get put down. You think that they deserved it? Some of them. If they kick hard, you can intro Kendrick on a concert. That's what I'm saying. Or you could, you know, if they're good at football, you just cut them for half a season and bring them back later. Yeah, it doesn't matter. But the funniest thing is they asked Biden the easiest question, Roe versus Wade. What are you going to do? And Trump was like, everyone wanted it. And everyone was like, oh, fuck. And then they asked Biden, he was like,

I want Roe versus Wade. We had an immigrant that raped a woman. And everyone was like, what the fuck are you talking about? That was his biggest fumble. Why did you bring that up? Yeah, I know. Why are we so comfortable with all the fumbles, yo? Like, he's the president. He's not our grandpa. I think it's an important distinction we got to start making. Like, we're allowing him to make the gaffes. We kind of laugh at the gaffes and it's like,

no, no, no, no, no. The job, you don't have gas. Well, this is the theory I was going to bring up. There's a theory that because the debates normally start in September. There's a theory that Democrats push to have it in June. So Biden could kind of expose himself and they could swap him out. And then everybody be like, yeah, this needed to happen. But what's so funny about that theory is that he's already been exposed himself. Nobody just found out that he's retarded now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now we really saw it. Now we really. But I think they were all just like,

remembering past debates and was like, ah, maybe he might have. I thought he was too old in 2020, and he did great in those debates, honestly. They drugged him up or whatever in his body. And I think it's just the pressure of the debate itself

got to him because the next day he looks pretty good like doing one of his rallies but then it's like low pressure you have a teleprompter he has a crowd energizing him and shit like that but that debate he looked like two different people yeah he he cracked under pressure yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like that's just weird yeah who chokes after they won a championship and they go to repeat

That's why I'm like in the middle because I'm like, I know he's doing these gaffes now, but he's doing a pretty good job in the presidential role. So I'm like, like, yeah, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I think deep down, none of us believe he's making any decisions. That's that. Yes. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. OK, so so you're cool with it. That is cool. But you also have to empathize with people who are like, I'm voting for a person. Yeah.

not the handlers yeah so if the person isn't making decisions my vote is not represented now we don't have a democracy but i saw what that person did the last four and shit was too crazy i'm not saying vote for trump what i'm saying is if somebody voted for biden if they were like i really like your ideas and i like what you're doing and then they find out he's not making the decisions you can understand how they might be feeling a little disillusioned right so we have this weird thing that's happening where it's become normalized to believe that our president

is not all there and other people are making decisions and nobody can point to the other people because you just want to justify your sides but then those people are very anti-trump why are you anti-trump if you just don't like that one individual it's there's like again you just justify your side so hey it doesn't matter what the individual does you're voting for the people behind the individual those guys are going to let things not get too crazy but then trump specifically is dangerous how

is Trump specifically dangerous if it's just going to be the handlers? Not you. Those people who are like, oh, it doesn't matter. Biden's just getting handled anyway. They'll look at Trump and be like, well, no, you can't let that individual handle it.

have the White House. I see what you're saying. There's like a logical flaw. I see the cognitive inconsistency there. It's like they. But what I would say in that situation is when I look at Biden, I'm like, he needs to be handled. When I look at Trump, he will never let anybody handle him. OK, that's fair. And I think that's their concern. And I think that's also like the party system concern, too. I don't think the Democratic operation is going to be that upset if they have like a traditional Republican comment.

Right. Because they know they can kind of control them. And by them, I don't think the Democrats. I mean, like the fucking Boeing and the pharmaceutical companies and all the people who, you know, butter the bread. I think they're like, yeah, we can. I think they look at Trump and they're like, yeah, this guy, he's going to do whatever the fuck he wants. That scares the shit out of people. But that's also what people like. If you feel disillusioned by the pharmaceutical industry, by the military industrial complex, if you feel disillusioned by every aspect of industry or government, you want the dude who's not going to listen to them. Yeah.

That's fair. That's the debate. Do you want a crazy guy that'll do whatever he wants or a crazy guy that can't do anything he wants? Low key, I think they want a crazy guy that will do the opposite of what those old establishment industries will do. Who are you speaking for? Trump.

supports okay and i think they're like i just want somebody to point a finger at those people that have fucked me over they believe that they've been which i completely empathize those guys get fucked at every turn we kind of scav at them scoff at them laugh at middle america flyover states blah blah of course they resent the establishment and the coastal cities and all that we've done nothing but look down on them and not help them so fuck you at least give me the guy who says fuck you back on my behalf they don't feel a way that during the first

first four years he didn't really drain the swamp and get rid of these motherfuckers or do anything against these institutions? I think he still speaks enough to them that I would rock with. I think if they wouldn't elect him for a third term, but I think he does enough and the other guys haven't done anything for them. So they're like, all right, at least this guy makes me feel good. You just vote for who's closest to your opinions. Like all these religious people voting for Trump, they know damn well this motherfucker ain't religious.

He paid for more abortions than anyone in this room except Alex. Stop it, I never pay. You beat Medicare. Big announcements. The last leg of cities for the Life Tour. San Antonio, Las Vegas.

Cleveland, Columbus, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Denver, Cincinnati, Rama, Ontario, Salt Lake City, Reno, San Jose, Portland, and Hawaii. Those are the last cities. God bless you. I appreciate you all. I love y'all, and I'll see you soon. Peace.

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I mean, it goes to an election. They do in another debate. And hopefully... I think the debate format is way better for one. And I also think that it helped Trump. Yes. Yes.

Yeah, but explain that. So the first debate, 2016, when he's coming out, the crowd helped Trump immensely. He was getting charged up. He was able to play the crowd better than everyone. And that, I think, is what got him elected. It was the rallies. It was the debates. All those quotes. And then 2020, that debate, he tried doing the same thing, but he looked like such a bully. He got high off the crowd's energy and then started like,

pummeling Biden. Everyone was like, yo, what's wrong with this guy? He's out of control. He's a loose cannon. And then this time, no audience. It was just the people. And then it was just him. He was very calm. I feel like he was very controlled. Biden was losing the time limit all the time. And then Trump, I thought, looked way better, partially because of that reason. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. I think also that the time limit

The time limit actually helps Trump. Yeah. Like, because short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short, short,

He forgot everything he had to say. All the talking points gone. Once their hands are moving, I'm sitting there, I'm perched up in my seat. I'm like, oh, he's about to call right now. Let's fucking go. But they chop him off at the minute. So he doesn't have a lot of hands time. Whereas, you know, Biden, maybe, maybe it would have been a little bit help. I would let that guy run. Yeah.

If I'm Biden, I would just let him run. Also, you can't give Biden numbers. Stop giving him numbers. Every number is a fumble. He can't get past it. Keep it vague. Like your memory. I do want them to bring back... They used to have the little ticker thing that showed like... It was kind of like a fact checker live. And they had that last time. And I do think they should bring it back because it was so ridiculous.

And that is, it has to be a little truthful because why would you vote for somebody that every single word out of his mouth is a lie?

It's like you're voting for a lie. I'm falling for every single narrative. I fell for the narrative that Biden said everything that was true that whole night. He didn't say one single lie. Then I go on Twitter and then people listen to all the lies. I fell for the narrative that Trump lied about every single thing. And then I go on Twitter and I'm like, oh, shit, he did say something truthful in these months. So I'm falling for every narrative left and right. I hate information right now. I'm almost at the point where I'm like, if you say something is I believe it.

So you better say more interesting lies than that motherfucker. Because he got me with his lies. I wonder if it's always been that way. I want to see a fact check on like a debate from the 60s. That's the thing Charlamagne always quotes. Nobody believes the truth when the lie is more interesting. Yeah, and I think it's always been that way. I just expect politicians to lie. They used to have the fact checker during the debates. I used to like that. Bro, did you see the clip of Reagan during his debate acknowledge his age? No. This was fucking, this was fire.

And the guy asking the questions asks him, how do you feel about the sentiment that you're maybe too old or your age or something like that? I don't want to butcher it. Maybe you bring it up. But he essentially says something to the extent of he goes, I don't want...

He goes, I want to win this fair and square. I don't want to have discussions in this debate about my opponent's youth and inexperience. Like he flips the age thing to the point where the guy that he's going up against starts laughing. Yeah. And he even like looks over and he's kind of like, he's like, oh, that guy's likable. And I looked at that guy laugh at his opponent. Sorry. I look and I go, you're toast. Yeah. Yeah.

You are fucking toast. Like he charmed his opponent. Yeah. I mean, I think there's this, we have this version of like Reagan, what is it? Reaganomics or whatever like that. I think the Democrats have really kind of

Maybe for good reasons or bad reasons. I don't really know. But you grow up in like a Democrat city where like, oh, Reaganomics was horrible and this was disgusting and this. And he gave it was him that gave crack to the hood and all this other stuff. And I had this idea of him as this like horrible person that just like destroyed urban communities and destroyed the economy. But every time I see this guy talking to me, I'm like, is this the best president ever?

He was quick on his feet. I mean, he was an actor. That one. The assassination attempt. He gets, if someone tries to kill him, he survives. And then add a speech, all of a sudden a balloon pops. And he stops the speech, goes, miss me. And then keeps going. I mean, he's there Clinton, like just a charm. He flipped entire states. I think the Republicans have painted Clinton in a way. Yeah.

In the same way that the Democrats have painted Reagan in a way. But he probably really satisfied the things that they wanted emotionally, while at the same time was incredibly charming. I mean, he charms the guy that he's going up against to the point where he's looking over and laughing, and he doesn't even realize he just drowned his opponent. Before it even started, that guy wants to vote for Reagan. Yeah. And everybody seeing it is like, oh, that guy's... That guy's... How am I going to vote for the guy that got...

They laughed at the other guy. No, I'm voting for the guy that got the laugh. My opponent's youth and inexperience. Wow. What a fucking dude. He was war ready. Speaking of age. I'm not going to attack his age. And then I'm just going to attack his age. Speaking of elders, Bill Clinton, I was listening to some things earlier. Bill Clinton right now is younger than Trump and Biden.

And he was president 30 years ago. Wow. And Ruby Bridges, born versus born versus born to education or whatever, younger than both of them. Like, considerably. And Clinton looks like shit, bro. I don't know if you've seen him. Yes. If you think Biden is a fucking scarecrow, then you got to look at Clinton, dude. Oh, really? There's no life left in his body. He had like four heart attacks. He's skinny as hell. Oh, let me see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a real shame what being married to Hillary Clinton for that long. And he was cheating on her. Imagine he was faithful to that motherfucker who died at 60 years old. He'd been dead.

He would have got the second term. Hillary looks good, actually. Like, she's literally sucking the life out of that man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a real damn shame. Anyway, so... No, there's a movie about Hocus Pocus. Witches can do that. They can suck the youth out of other people. It's like a thing. Can I ask y'all a question? I mean, God damn. Yeah. Can I ask y'all a question real quick before you do that? Um...

There's this crazy news story that an adult that talks to children all day on stream turned out to maybe be a pedophile. Can you guys believe that?

Guys, can you fucking believe that the adult that talks to children on stream for eight hours to 12 hours a day and is dedicated their life to playing video games might be into kids? Guys. Allegedly. I mean, allegedly. But I'm just saying, like, did anybody see this coming? I'm shocked. Wow. I just can't even imagine. Yeah. Like, who? What's his name? This guy.

I think you're talking about Dr. Disrespect. Oh, Dr. Disrespect. Yeah, he's a doctor. Do you know he is? Okay. Do you know the whole story? Pediatrician? I know a lot of it. I've never seen someone handle a pedophilia accusation more confidently. Yeah, it's really crazy. He leaned in. Yeah. Yeah. To the point that people are like, I don't think he did it. He goes, I don't apologize for shit. Maybe. Maybe.

We start. Can I give you a breakdown? Because up until this story happened, I had no idea who this guy was. I'd never heard of him. So he's a popular... OG streamer, apparently. Yeah, he's like a Twitch streamer, former Twitch streamer, current YouTube streamer. For the record, I don't consume his content. I'm not like the most privy. I just researched this for the sake of this content. Why, you guys have too much overlap in your interests?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to study game film. You know what I mean? So basically, he's a really popular streamer, right? He was on Twitch for the longest time. I don't know when exactly he started. Right now, he's 42 years old, okay? He created this character called Dr. Disrespect. He's like 6'8". He can dunk. He talks shit on stream, and he has a huge audience, huge fan base. People love him. And so for years, he was doing his thing on Twitch. There was no problem. And then 2017, he comes on not as the character but as himself.

And kind of is like on stream and he's kind of sad and he's talking about how he apologizes to his wife and family for being unfaithful. So that's all that came out in 2017. And then the whole audience was like, we don't care. We're 15. Who gives a shit? So then fast forward 2020, he basically gets taken off of Twitch. He gets banned. He can't be on Twitch anymore.

Apparently the gaming space was undergoing like a version of me too. So he's banned on Twitch and he signed an exclusivity deal with Twitch that had not expired. So then he basically settled with Twitch and Twitch paid him out. All right. So then that's 2022. He immediately goes to YouTube and starts going right on YouTube. Basically fast forward to 2024 and ex Twitch employee tweets out that he. I mean, it's crazy. They would have to pay him. Yeah.

You think there'd be a clause in a contract? Yeah, a morality clause. Yeah. You start talking to a little kid that they don't have to pay. He got paid to talk to an underage girl. That's remarkable. Yeah, it really is crazy. So 2024 ex-Twitch employee comes out and says he had been banned because he'd been caught messaging a minor on the DM service of Twitch known as Whisper.

Which I don't think he knew was taking minors. Now, I'm sure he messaged minors all the time because it's kids watching the show. It's the inappropriate nature of how he messaged her, allegedly. Like, for example, if he's...

If you're the guy from Blue's Clues and you've got a bunch of kids sending you fucking letters every single week and you write them back and say, hey, you know, thanks for watching the show. Stay in school. Stay in school, et cetera. That's totally fine. When you're engaging in inappropriate DMs with an underage girl, now you get paid millions of dollars by Twitch. That's what happens. So apparently, according to the correspondence, he had planned to meet with her at TwitchCon. And then according to his own...

tweet vindicating himself. He claimed that the messages got a little inappropriate in nature or something to that effect. Again, I'm not an expert on the story. It is kind of serious. I think there's also things a little inappropriate with an underage girl. It's just either inappropriate or not. Just as a general rule, don't meet up with minors. Unless there's a tweet or a text being like, hey, your parents are going to be there. You and your parents can come just to get out ahead of any... I'm not meeting you alone. Just don't even talk to them.

I mean, that's your fan base. Thanks for support. Thumbs up. Stay in school. All the other pleasantries. So this happened apparently in 2017 and people speculated that was a reason for his apology back then. According to his tweet, these were casual mutual conversations that sometimes lean too much in the direction of being inappropriate but nothing more.

He claimed he had no intentions of meeting this person and then edited his Twitter statement to remove the mention of the minor, but then re-edited it back in once people were like, wait a second, did you just cut out the fact that it was a minor that you confirmed? And he was like, all right, I put it back in. So it seems like he kind of bungled his apology here. And then he denied being a pedophile, which is a good move. And then YouTube demonetized his account.

And then he got dropped from, like, a bunch of stuff. He was, like, doing collabs with a ton of different companies. He was working with, like, the 49ers. He was doing, like, a video game that he was going to release with the studio. They dropped him. And apparently the thing got sent to, like, the Child Exploitation Service of the United States. And they, I guess, saw it but then didn't investigate. I don't know exactly what the facts are with that. So that is, like, what currently happened as of, like, last week as far as I understand it. But there's more to come. So...

The question is, why didn't Twitch do something about this in 2017 when they found out about it? Well, they did. They paid them lots of money. They did a lot. But they didn't do that until 2020.

This happened in 2017. So the question is, did Twitch know about it? And then if they did, why did they keep him on for three years knowing that he had solicited a minor, allegedly? Or did Twitch not know about it, in which case they need to do a better job of surveying their servers and knowing what people are saying to their audience? So that's the one question that people are like, okay, that's pretty weird. Second question, now people are pointing at the duplicity of Twitch that they're going after this guy, rightfully so, right? If what he did is true, that's fucked up. But then you have these like...

like bathtub streamers. So like on Twitch, you'll have like these young or these girls that are full grown women that are basically trying to like soft core cam their way into like getting only fans people. And they will like stream in a bathtub or they'll stream like with everything, just their tits cut off and covered. And the age to sign up for Twitch is 13.

So basically everyone's like, well, wait a second. What he did is fucked up. But what these girls are doing where they're basically making sexualized content for people 13 and up. Wow. That's also fucked up. So what is the what are you going to do about that? Yo, is writing sexualized content for kids weird, too?

I would say so. If you're doing erotica for children. Like, euphoria is erotica for children. I don't know if that shows for children. No, no, no, no. Meaning like... Oh, for them to do. To them to do. Like, they're writing it. Adults are playing the children. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, it is a kind of... I understand you're trying to capture this, like, age of innocence and, you know, there's so much happening hormonally when a kid. There's discovery, etc. And we're all probably interested in this time in our lives, right? But...

you do have to spend a lot of time thinking about kids fucking when you're writing the show. Right? Like, it is an odd thing. Like, I remember when we were younger, we were watching, like, you know, Beverly Hills now 2-0, and there's, like, sex scenes and shit for...

Teenagers. And we were young, so it made sense. Didn't think anything of it. But there's adult producers that... Write the scenes and direct the scenes. Can you moan louder? Moan like a teenager would moan louder. Right, it is. Yeah. What is the... That is a little odd. It's peculiar. It is very peculiar. It's not illegal because there are adults playing them. Yeah. But at the same time, you're imagining being... Also, as an actor, you're imagining hooking up

with a teenager yo stop making euphoria weird because i like that it's weird why are we watching let's go back to we're believing they're in high school fuck this fuck boys is there weird shit like game of thrones probably oh no no yeah no the main no the dude no that's fantasy that's fantasy the rules don't apply yeah it's fantasy i

thing yeah yeah yeah who's fantasy there's dragons niecey's fucking she was like a little girl yeah reneara was like yeah the first time her uncle took her out that's also y'all remember that part y'all remember i forgot about that immediately it's not the things i focus on i focus on the dragons not dragging what god they reminded us of it this episode but yeah isn't there like a

I don't articulate what I'm saying. No, I get it. You articulated it. But then it really fell apart with that Game of Thrones thing. Yeah, but it's fantasy. It doesn't count. Yeah. It is creepy to have to write sexual lines for children, even if they're not children. Actually, even if the actors are adults, I don't like it. What if it's based on a true story? It doesn't matter. Makes it worse? Yeah. No, because if I wrote a story about me fucking when I was 17, a consensually 17-year-old person,

You're getting old pussy, bro. If it's autobiographical. No, no, this is a good point. When I tell y'all about the first time I fucked or when I got hit when I was younger, y'all are pedophiles. Yeah. I'm not. I don't enjoy those stories. Y'all are thinking about me getting hit as a teenager. I don't enjoy those stories, first of all. Second of all, I only think about you getting hit as an adult.

You do? Yeah, yeah. It was way different back then. I was so bad at it when I was young. So bad at getting ahead. But yeah, it is... I wouldn't want to do it, but I don't know if it should be illegal. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't want to write it. I don't think anything illegal is happening here, but it does start to feel odd. Yeah, I think in their mind, they're capturing a reality. Yeah. And it's a reality maybe they think,

should be privy to because I don't think I knew and I don't know how accurate the show is but when I'm watching the show my kids are wiling I think that's what they're going they're going for high drama and there's no higher drama than like the innocence of a child being you know yeah taking advantage of or something like that like if the show takes place in college you're like oh they're fucking that's not that bad yeah but when the show takes place in high school and a trans girl is getting fucking rinsed out by the other person's dad in a hotel room you're like oh my god this is wrong so they know what they're doing is wrong

The intention matters. If you're just trying to tell a story and this is a necessary part to tell that story, that's different than these cam girls who are clearly trying to sell sex without selling sex. So it's like the intention matters. And like they're feeding you into an OnlyFans so they can monetize it. Euphoria is the show in and of itself. Nobody's putting on Euphoria to jerk off and shit. I don't think. Jacob Alloy is pretty hot. What about anime? Anime.

But what about it? Nobody jerks off to anime. Yo, come on, son. No, stop. Stop you. Stop you. Stop. Don't make anime weird. No, I'm just saying, they sexualize the bitches in anime, right? Yeah. And it's kids watching anime. Mm-hmm. Yep.

So wouldn't that be the same thing? They're never fucking in it. They just make them have big tits and shit. But they never fuck on Amazon. They never fuck on Twitch. Them girls in the bathtub don't fuck on Twitch. Mm-hmm. So I'm trying to say... They're trying to set up the pipeline to sign up for the OnlyFans. Oh, you're saying they also have OnlyFans. Yeah, it's a pipeline. Got it, got it, got it. The whole point is to get you to sign up for the OnlyFans so I can monetize my tits. No, I got you. I got you. And I think that's the case. I got to think of specific instances if there's Twitch streamers that are genuinely going straight from there to OnlyFans. Bro, that's the thing, like...

- Running a legit business is exhausting. - Yeah. - 'Cause you always got these annoying motherfuckers. Like, you're the person who's the CEO of Twitch, and you're like, "Hey, we got this great platform. "People can play video games, they can talk to their friends. "It's gonna be awesome, right?" - We got Sketch, we can make Sketch happen. - Yeah, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be so cool. And you're gonna see, like, regular dudes that are playing video games with professional athletes, and the whole world's gonna come together, and it's gonna be this great thing. You share the passion.

And then these pierced nipple bitches are in their bathtubs trying to draw 10 year olds over to fucking OnlyFans. And you have to come like make a rule. But whatever rule you make, you're going to look like a hypocrite because it's going to stop you, stop your Twitch users from doing something else. It's exhausting. Yeah. Yeah.

But if you're, and Twitch is also owned by Amazon, so you gotta just be on the safe side of everything. - And that's the other thing because like, they're not making money on Twitch. - Yeah. - They're making money from Amazon. So you're a trillion dollar company and now you gotta worry about your brand being tarnished by these bathtub bitches. - Yeah, so you would think a brand like that would just play it overly safe.

Because this is a loss leader for us. We're just trying to get in market share, getting this thing, whatever it is. But I'm not taking... I don't want my main business to take a hit off of this. So we're going to be overly safe. And if that costs us some users, who cares? We need Amazon Web Services to be killing it. We need Amazon, the website, to be killing it. This Twitch thing is...

Fifth on our list of income streams. Yeah. Anyway, it is what it is. So it'll be interesting to see what happens with this. Because he's like, look, Twitch paid me out. They didn't think it was that egregious. Like, YouTube is cool with it. Da-da-da-da. They got sent to this exploitation board for the government. They didn't investigate it. Oh. So it's not that big a deal. So why not...

Come out and say exactly what it was. I think that's his position, but then everyone's kind of saying that, like, yo, just release the messages. Yo, release that shit, because we're assuming the worst. Anytime pedophilia gets thrown around, we're assuming the worst. And if you say inappropriate messages, we're deeming what we think are inappropriate messages. Yeah. Right?

Maybe this is just enough room for interpretation that he's like, ah, people might think X, Y, Z, whether he intended to or not. I don't know. Our brains are always going to go to the worst possible scenarios. And in 2017, if he said, oh, I was being unfaithful, then that means there was an encounter. That's also true. That's also true. There's an encounter somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you're not being like emotionally unfaithful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you are with a kid, that's just as fuck. Well, apparently there's no proof of an encounter thus far. Sure, sure, sure. But still, like if he has to address that and his wife is upset about it, then there has to be something of a sexual issue. Maybe that's just what he said so he didn't have to say the real reason. That's...

Yeah. No, that's just crazy. He says nothing illegal happened. No pictures were shared. No crimes were committed. Even though I never met the individual, I went through lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with Twitch. The case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear. It was not a criminal case against me. No criminal charges have ever been brought against me. Okay. But that doesn't say I didn't do anything inappropriate at all. Who cares? We got to talk about something else. The...

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It is specific. It's this Bronny story. Yeah. Right? And I really want to get your guys' takes on it because there's something that's happening in media that I thought was fascinating. So Bronny gets drafted in the second round. He goes to the Lakers. I think Rich Paul was telling teams not to draft him and that if they did draft him that he would go play in Australia. So they basically set the situation up for him to go play for the Lakers with LeBron. Yeah.

And almost immediately, I saw these big media figures coming out and instead of being critical of the fact that this happened, exposing other nepotism in sports. Yeah.

Coming to the defense of Bronny and LeBron and the Lakers. They talk about nepotism in the back office. They talk about nepotism on other teams. I think Giannis' brother plays with the Bucs. But it's really interesting to me. It shows, in my opinion, the power of LeBron. Yes. Because...

The easiest story, the most salacious story is to go at this situation and completely undercut the fact that they drafted him. Yeah. And they are defending the decision. Yeah.

And making good arguments. I mean, nepotism is right, right, right. All over the NBA. Yeah. Like there's so many coaches whose dad were coaching everywhere. If the second you have anything like I have a daughter, I want to give her a fucking every, I can't wait to know. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait to nip it. So it is, I understand why it's frustrating.

If you don't have kin. Yeah. Or I understand why it's frustrating if your parents didn't have something to give you because you're like, well, look at that unfair advantage that that person has. 100%. But you can't blame a parent for wanting to provide for their kid. I should have looked this up. The GM of the Mavericks, the old GM of the Mavericks, Donnie Nelson, his dad was Don Nelson, the head coach of the Mavericks.

What a fucking surprise that happened. I mean, this is all over the coaching positions of the leader. But I should have looked this up, but is part of the definition of nepotism like a person who doesn't deserve it? No, it's related. Just related. Oh, so then... I mean, the subtext is they don't deserve it. I mean, Brian doesn't deserve it. But if it's not part of the definition, then we should encourage nepotism. But, no, I mean... In all industries. If...

If you earned it, like, for example, nobody said Klay Thompson is a... Nepo baby. Is a Nepo baby. His dad was in the league, Michael Thompson. No one says Steph Curry is a Nepo baby. Yeah. Right? Like, their parents were both in the league. Right? There are plenty of people who have, you know, relatives that are in the league. Even Seth Curry is a contributor, a valuable contributor on teams. Yeah. So, Bronny did not... Bronny might have a successful NBA career. I don't know. What he's showed so far is that there's no reason for him to get drafted. Right.

Even in his draft workouts, they were going through him. They were like, he kind of shot shitty. And it's like his only thing is to be three and D, right? He doesn't have the ball handling skills and passing skills to really be a point guard. He's an undersized two, and he wasn't even shooting the ball that well. So he didn't really exemplify somebody who would want to draft even in the second round, but he got drafted. Who cares? So what? But let's not make up the fact that there was a little help here. I think it proves that no one ever really cared about nepotism.

You know what I mean? Go with that. When the whole thing came out, when that Nepo Baby article first dropped in 2017, 2018 or whatever, everyone was pissed. Oh, nepotism's everywhere, da-da-da. I don't think anyone ever really cared. I think it just wasn't a thing that benefited them or their community. So people were like, oh, this is fucked up. Yeah, it's white privilege. It's the same argument. That's why.

No one really cares sometimes, but other people really... But now that everyone can benefit from nepotism, or now that more people can benefit from nepotism, I think everyone's going to be like, a little nepotism is fine. That's my feeling. I've said this about white privilege in Hollywood or whatever. It is the perfect... Or white privilege in any industry. It is the perfect argument for...

Yeah.

I get what you're saying. Do you know what I'm saying? And not to switch topics, but the reason why I support nepotism now, because I'm like, this is a motivation for you to achieve something where you can actually pass it down to your kid. So it's like, I think everybody should be... People who are anti-nepotism would argue that that lane is blocked because of nepotism. You see what I'm saying? I mean, you can always make your own lane. And then to the...

Pull yourself up by your boots, Fred. That's what I'm talking about. We converted him. Trump won. He liked the debate. Let's go. I like what you're talking about. Keep going. You should have let him tell. To me, I didn't like the white casting shit when minorities did it because once we started getting all the roles, then instead of being like, hey guys, we just wanted to be fair, all of a sudden they'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, white man, are you not getting the role?

And it's like, oh, you didn't want fairness. You just wanted to be the white man. Yeah. That drives me crazy. And I will say the nepo baby argument is just, it's just like jujitsu or whatever. Y'all got nepotism. How do I flip this? It's your advantage. How do I flip it to make it my advantage and your disadvantage? Yeah. Which straight up argument. That's a fucking great way to do it. Yeah. That's a great way to flip the advantage. And that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah. I don't subscribe to that idea largely, but like.

I also think with Bronny, we're all so excited. First of all, it's a few things. One, like you said, media's on his side because they can't lose LeBron. Because Jordan proved if you fuck with us, we could just not give your publication any love. And ESPN needs LeBron.

So media's on his side. Two, I think we all just want to see a father and son play in the same crowd. Fucking awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. That outweighs any nepotism. And it's the second round. The Mavs drafted an Indian Punjabi guy six years ago that I knew would never play in the league. And Mark Cuban was like, we just made a billion fans. Fire. I love that. It's late in the second round. Who gives a fuck? If he went number nine, we'd have a problem with it. So it's not like the Lakers aren't going to sell out every game. They are because LeBron's on the team. But if you look at it as a financial decision...

It's not nepotism. Correct.

If I'm brawny, that's what I would say. I go, guys, this is a financial decision. There are people that really want to see us playing the game together. It's going to get so many clips. Even if it's for 30 seconds, it's going to blow things up. When we go to... It's not only just when we go to other cities they're going to sell out because my dad is going to do that, but around the world, if you're interested in the game, you're going to want to see this. They're probably going to pay me the league minimum for a second-round rookie, and they're going to make...

20 million off of that. This is a business decision. I would say that. And then you shut everybody up about skill. Then that just steps on all your hard work. It's like, I work so hard to get to the league. And the only reason why I'm getting signed just because it's going to sell. People know, but people know what the hard work did, right? Like four points and like three assists and like one rebound. Like we understand the merit and the merit isn't sufficient.

So we're never going to look at you as if you're here for merit until you start balling in the league. If you start balling your ass off in the league, we shut the fuck up. It absolutely could happen. And he's going to get touches because please believe if you want to be on bronze, good side.

If Bronny comes in the game, you feed him the ball. Don't you think that fucks with his psyche a little bit? That he's like, damn, I wasn't good enough to actually make it to the league. Bro, he's dealt with that his whole life. His entire life. There is nobody that is more comfortable. Great point. Exactly. There's nobody more comfortable thinking that people are doing things for him just because of his dad than LeBron James Jr. You got a point. So I think he's almost like built...

a callousness to it in terms of like he I imagine he doesn't resent it he goes this is the world I live in I accept it and I gotta do my best to go out there hoop it's probably why hoops is so nice to him because at the end of the day his dad can't shoot the ball for him he gotta go out there and ball yeah

You know what I mean? Yeah. But doesn't this happen? Not exactly the same, but similar where like a guy will be close to breaking an all-time scoring record or some type of crazy record and people won't play D as hard if it's like a regular season game, right? They said that about home run records. Right, right, right, right. Michael Strahan's sack record in the NFL. Brett Favre just like gave up the last sack. That's what they say. And there's kind of like a gentleman-ness to it where it's like, look, this doesn't really matter. It's good for the game for you to get this thing. After you make the point or the sack...

the game stops and they throw fucking confetti and shit. Cause it's just kind of good for the pageantry of the game. And I kind of feel like it's the same thing where like, it's good for the game as a whole to see the greatest of all time, arguably the greatest with his son playing for a season. It's awesome. It's amazing. I don't, I'm a Laker hater, but now they got a coach that I love and they got a father son duo playing. Like I'm so excited to watch a Laker game and I don't think they're going to contend for anything.

Not this year, but I'm excited to watch it. And I think it's awesome for everyone except people who are better than him in college that they're looking at, yo, he took much. But it's one spot on 30 teams. I'm just saying, if you were one of those people, you would feel it. Yeah, I would. I think there was some post and it was about another guy that was on USC. You saw that one. He dropped like 14 a game and he didn't get drafted. That is what it is. Maybe he'll go play in Europe somewhere. Maybe he won't. Maybe he'll coach. Who knows what he's going to do with his life. But

This is the nature of things, guys. But Bronny scoring five a game didn't impact him scoring 14 again. You know what I mean? 100%. He could have scored 30 again. 100%. And also the thing I would say is like,

Before we criticize this situation, I want everybody to think about how they got every job in their life, how they got every apartment in their life, how they got every bottle service at a club. Nepotism or cronyism is the other term when you're not related. Cronyism is the term. It has benefited you too. Everybody gets everything because of the people they know.

That is the nature. Get better cronies, bro. That shit's fine. Real talk. If you don't got shit, your cronies suck. Chris Rock said that about Bill Clinton writing a letter of recommendation for Monica Lewinsky. He said something like, that's his friend. How many of you guys got a job because your friend recommended you? And I remember, I'm 15 or 16 or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, that's a great point. Even I knew that back then. My first job was a friend. Target. That's how I got it. Actually, the whole Bronny balls out. I would love it.

yeah i hope ronnie balls out dude i would love it maybe sick and if anybody could bring the best out of him it's his dad yeah yeah and that's not always bad i mean fucking bollywood that's what the nepo baby thing that we've been talking about for decades it's awesome all nepotism now it's shifting but back back when i was growing up it's all nepotism yeah do you think lebron gets the senior on the back of his jersey

Yeah, it's got to be so cool. I mean, if they just want to sell more jerseys. Yes. Yeah, switch it up. James Sr. He's old as hell. Bron's number is nine, right? Six. Six and nine. That's a little weird. That shit is so funny. That's a little weird. 69 with your dad, bro. I saw that tweet. They thought out everything.

but that, you sell them together, bro. That shit is awesome. Nah, they got to do junior and senior because parents would do that. Yes. Like if you got a kid, you're going to get the dad jersey and then the son jersey. Yeah, this is. What a coup for the league, bro. You got the Celtics winning championships and the Lakers aren't, again, I think Redick will make them really good, but not this year. But they're not good, but you got fucking father-son playing the greatest of all time, maybe with the son. No, this is going to be good. Like what a time for the league.

The two anchor franchises. PR through the roof. Yeah, it's fire. Yeah, it's interesting. This is the reaction to it. I was shocked, man. I think, honestly, LeBron owes Michael Jordan a thank you for this. Because these ESPN... Remember when Sports Illustrated I was referencing? Michael Jordan plays baseball. Sports Illustrated writes an article with a cover that says, Bag it, Michael. Basically insulting him for playing baseball. Michael Jordan never talks about Sports Illustrated again. ESPN is looking at this like,

do we want to insult LeBron for this or do we want LeBron to like us? And then George Carl, I think his son played. So like there's nepotism all over the week. Now we've got to call it out everywhere. Let's just support this and we're good. We keep LeBron. We don't piss off other execs and we got to call out later. We're good. I'm going to throw out an allegedly on this one because I have no proof to back it up. Oh, this is going to be good. Yeah. It's feelings. Juicy. Feelings. So,

I'm sure you guys have seen, there was an article that came out talking about how like Jordan's stats were inflated. Oh, did you see that? I haven't read the article, but I've heard about it. So there's a few articles that came out talking about Jordan's stats were inflated. There's like lots of content online talking about how like, oh, Jordan really wasn't that nice. They're like people reviewing old Jordan clips and like saying, oh, look, there was no defense back in the day. Yada, yada, yada. But,

What they did is they reviewed footage and then compared them to the stats that the Chicago Bulls had delivered to the NBA. Yeah. And they found a discrepancy. Oh, there was less rebounds, less assists, et cetera. Especially the year he won defensive player of the year. They would just award him skills that he didn't get. Now. Oh, shit. One, the reaction is, oh, shit. Yeah. Two, this is what I heard, and this could be absolute bollocks.

I heard Braun's team is behind that. I love that. I love that. Oh. I love that. Behind outing it. Oh, okay. I love that. Because what did Jordan do? As soon as LeBron won with the Cavs, he said, let's drop this last dance shit. Yeah. Like, if y'all are... Hey, let's go. Oh, they're competing. Oh, yeah. The fact that LeBron did the movie probably drove Jordan fucking crazy. Oh, my God. That's funny. So...

Jordan is a dog. He is. Competing 30 years out of the league. He's never stopped. Ron got that dog in him too, dude. He's still in it though. He's still in it. So it makes sense. It's like, yeah, he's got a legacy to protect. He's got a legacy to make. Like Jordan's just doing it for like just protection. But the fact that he's trying to, I'm not saying he is, but allegedly, uh,

is behind tarnishing Jordan's accomplishments that he knows that he won't beat so that he can have the better numbers. Like if we stop believing in Jordan's numbers, now you can make the argument that

that maybe LeBron is the greatest of all time. You can. Yeah, but then it's like Jordan's rings aren't padded. Sex! And here's the other thing. I said this years ago when LeBron, I think, went to L.A. And now that he's staying in L.A. And I love, I think Reddick's going to be great, blah, blah, blah. Love these point of the sun. But the fact that he's not chasing the best team and he's like, well, I'm just going to retire in this beautiful, sunny place. I get it. But I do think Jordan would never have done that.

Like, LeBron knows they're not, they don't got a team to win the ring. Jordan would have benched his kid immediately. Jordan ain't doing that. He did it right. But Jordan would have gone to a team like, I don't know, maybe the Sixers where there's an MVP candidate right there or whatever. Dude, the Nuggets wanted him three years ago or whenever he went to the Lakers. Can you imagine LeBron and Jokic? Get the fuck out of here. To me, that would have been the Jordan move. I do think back in the day there was a bit more loyalty to

Yeah, no, no. He went on to the best team. LeBron went to the best location. See what I'm saying? So do you think he would have went to the best team, or do you think that his competitive instinct would have been like, I'm not going to just join a good team. I'm going to beat that team. He was like, he needed Phil. He needed Scotty. He went and got Rodman. I need the best support. I'm going to be the alpha, but we're going to have a great team. And he made it very clear. If Scotty's gone, if Phil is gone, I'm not coming back. I just don't see Jordan joining a super team. I can see him make one.

But I don't think he'd be like, oh, they're the best team? I'll just go and be on that. I think he'd go to the best team where he's still the best player. Does that make sense? He's still the alpha. He's not going to go to... He's always going to be the best. Exactly. So I think he's going to be like, all right, well, let's go to the best supporting cast. I'm not going to go to this team where they don't have one. I don't think... You get what I'm saying, right? I get what you're saying, but I mean, again... His ego wouldn't allow him to admit that there's another team better. I think he would go to a better situation than the Lakers. I mean, he went to the Wizards.

Yeah, but that's just... He went to the worst team. He couldn't lose at owning a team. So let me just get the fuck out on the court. If he didn't own the Wizards, he don't play on the Wizards. Yeah, and then after losing, he was like, I need to get out of this team. There's nothing that can make this team win. Yeah, it's...

Yeah, there's some cool drama going on in the NBA. Like, the NBA is cooking right now in the offseason. Yeah, yeah. Like, this draft specifically, there's this story. I don't know if you guys are reading it. The Utah story? Did you read about it? I heard about it on... So that's a no? No, I'm just like... Yeah, I heard shouts to Jake and Dan, my boys that we helped break non-compete clauses all over the country. So do you want to break it down a little bit then? So you can fill in any gaps that I have, but there is a player who played for Duke...

What's his name again? Filipowski. Filipowski. Kyle Filipowski. Yeah. So there's a podcast with Zach Lowe, who's an NBA savant, knows everything. He has this guy on who's a scout. Basically, he was getting molested by his babysitter, and then she groomed him, and now she's divided him from his family, and he's going to play for the Utah Jazz. Yeah.

That's the quick of it. Now, apparently he dropped in the draft because of this. That's why it's interesting. So the girl, I think, is like seven years older than him. I think she maybe babysat him. They say that she used... They went to prom together.

Now, he's apparently 18 at prom. She's 25, I think, or something like that. But they didn't meet on prom night. They probably were talking when he was 17, 16. No, I think she babysat him. There's a picture of her as a babysitter with them. That's crazy. Yeah, so it's like...

They're saying that she groomed him. And I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's grooming, but I think she basically sought a meal ticket. She's like, this motherfucker, seven, this seven foot white boy is going to the NBA. I'm locking this motherfucker down. I got dick sucking skills seven years advanced. He never felt nothing like this. I remember when I was 18 years old, there's this girl who's 30 sucking my dick.

And I was like, this is the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I was like, 30-year-old bitches are back. Yeah, she's been in the league, bro. She wrote for Cosmopolitan. Oh, fuck. And I told my friend, I was like, yo, this girl's crazy. He goes, have you ever read Cosmopolitan? And I was like, nah. He's like, it's all about dick sucking. She better be good. Put your fucking money where your mouth is. The original Hock Tooie, bro. That's the original one. So these girls got skills that these young bucks know nothing about. She came in.

And apparently used some Mormonism shit. So that's what the, so her, somebody was like, went down the rabbit hole, this 30 second conversation on Zach Lowe. Then the guy's brother makes an account. Filipowski's brother's like, yo, you have no idea how deep this goes. Look up Mormon grooming for a little more information. And that's apparently, I haven't looked it up. That's apparently what it is. She's grooming him, indoctrinating him into Mormonism. Ironically, he gets drafted by the fucking jazz of all places. It's not ironic. I mean, he fell down.

Far in the draft. Yeah, but were the Jazz like, well, fit right in. Is that what it was? Yeah. Okay, fair enough. You don't think the Jazz want the Mormon kid?

Oh, yeah, that's true. But he's not Mormon yet, is he? Yeah. I mean, she got him in the Mormon ship. Crazy story, dude. This is Mormon recruitment tactic. Yeah. Like, yo, how do we get players? Send some honeypot. Yeah, exactly. After these little teeny bobbers. They saw Brittany Renner and they're like, oh, we got to get our own little, you know, our little guys. Can we look up a picture of this girl? Yeah. No, she's bad. She's worth it. Yeah. Yeah, she's bad. It's not like he's getting fucked over or anything like that. Like, sure, he's worth it. But it is disgusting. Like, if this happened...

If the genders were reversed, this would be crazy. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, she's absolutely insane. She got crazy eyes. Oh, she's, she's insane. That's an insane girl. Yeah. You could tell. Yeah. But also she babysitting him, right? He's probably 12, but he got crazy meat. Cause he's so tall. So she's looking at it and she's like, yo, this is going to get so much bigger. Yo, come on. This is a house of dragon. This is a game of thrones. I didn't think you were for me. I just said the words. I didn't think about it. I adopted this as well.

Y'all was thinking about meat and you're still thinking about it. You said meat. You did say meat. You said meat. You can't say a word without thinking about it. When I say meat, I'm thinking about carne asada. When you say meat, you're thinking about it. Tell your old dicks. You got the mustache already. You just need the wig and glasses. I swear to God, Al, you like bullets. You called it huge. You called it huge. Pow, pow.

You gotta go in. He likes boys, yo. I said big for 12, bro. Why you no frame of reference? Because I'm big 12, dummy. So you know just yours? Yeah. Hey, Schultz. Wait a minute. You don't know what your dick looked like at 12? I don't remember, yo. That was 28 years ago.

You don't remember your 12-year-old dick? I don't remember my 12-year-old dick. I don't think about 12-year-old dick. You're a fucking dick, bro. Yo, that sucks, man. Don't get it on me.

What do you mean you don't remember? Who remembers their dick 28 years ago? He was a little fatter back then, he couldn't see it. Oh, that's fair, that's fair. But yeah, you remember being a child and playing with your dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. Are you really doing this thing? Oh yeah, absolutely I'm doing this thing. What is the thing you're doing? Trying to make you look like a pedophile. Why would I be a pedophile if I don't know what my dick looks like? The fact that you don't know what your dick looks like makes me think you like kids.

Because you look at so many other dicks, you're like, I got them confused. I don't remember dicks. I got no clue. I don't know. You would only know one dick. You can't remember one? No, not 28 years ago. I remember my dick yesterday, today. What about 10 years ago? It probably looks similar to what it does now. Yeah, when did dicks stop growing?

Mine got smaller. I think mine grew fat. I think it went back in. Or I just got fatter. I had to Google it. I was like, I think my dick, I think I got less hand on my dick. Oh, really? Because I think I used to have more hands on my dick and now I have less. So I'm like, is it possible? I literally Googled it. Do your dicks get smaller? I asked a doctor. I was like, is it possible your dick gets smaller? And the doctor was like, yeah, I told you. And the doctor was like, no, you just gain weight. He goes, the last time I heard you were 20 pounds less fat.

And so your stomach is growing out and taking some dick away. Damn. That's great. Yeah, the best motivation for it. You talk about you have a little dick all the time. Losing weight would make your dick big. I know. Or do you want to keep your dick at 12? I like it at 12, dude. I like it. I like it. That's what you got to say. How big is your dick? 12? Just say that. I said it. Yeah.

That's it, man. Okay, so I don't know. It does get smaller. It does get smaller, right? As you get older, build up a fatty deposit, so your arteries reduce blood flow to your penis. Why does it go to your dick? You should get more fat in your dick. They should figure out a way to do that. They do. Fat transfers to your dick. They do. Really? Yeah. You get the BDLs.

I mean, if women can get a dick sewn on, you don't think that we can get ours a little bigger? Yeah, that's true. Isn't that crazy? That's true. That's a good point, actually. Yeah, that is a good point. What is the average size of a penis that a woman gets put on? A trans? We should be able to. Trans men. Yeah. Yeah. We should be able to dictate that. Hey. Chosen. Didn't even want to say it.

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Even if you're wet. What y'all thought about Rosé getting jumped in Vancouver? That was wild. Yeah, that was wild. I don't know why he played the song, though. I don't know why you're playing this song. So I was thinking about this. Can you explain what happened? Oh, yeah. So Rick Ross went to Vancouver and he was doing, I guess, a show out there. There was like a festival or something that he was a part of. And then he played... Not Like Us. Not Like Us. Not Like Us.

And, you know, some beef ensues. I guess he gets off the stage or whatever. They're backstage. Some people are tussling. He gets swung on, and then all of his bodyguards get beat the shit out of him, and then he gets moved to another section. His DJ got beat up. His DJ got fucked up. But here's the question, okay. Rick Ross, the immediate question is, why would he play Not Like Us, right? I had that same question. He can't not. If he doesn't play it,

He's pussy. After talking all this shit about Drake, he got to bare minimum play his diss on Drake. And if he really is the guy he says he is, he got to play the song that you shouldn't play. Because he still performs his songs with Drake. Oh, that's right. Those are some of his biggest songs. I imagine they are his biggest. Yeah. So he has the same set everywhere he goes. Those are still included. So, yeah.

You don't want to get called out by Drake. Be like, you're still using me for a sentence. So now I got to have a little balance. That's a good point. That's what. Do you think it's really a story if he doesn't play Not Like Us? Like how many people really notice? How big does that story really get?

I don't think it's a story. And I think you're right about that. But I think his mentality is I'm going to bully him. I'm going to call him white boy. I'm going to say he's corny. I'm going to go into his hood and then I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. And I think he wanted the clip of him playing not like us in Canada and nothing happened. Of course. And of course, something happened. But doesn't look bad for him.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think it actually looks really bad. His crew got fucked up. I mean, his crew got destroyed, demolished. Like, he got escorted out, like, just barely. Like, he was hiding behind barricades. This is like, I'm Ricky Rosé. I'm tough. You're a little bitch. You're a pussy. You're white. But, like, he's really talking shit to Drake, and it's not even in Toronto. Yeah. It's in Vancouver. That's what's really great. He got snuffed by a white dude. I know. All that white boy talk, you get snuffed by the white dude. I know. That's wild.

It was tiny kids I was fucking him up to. So I do think it's not a good look. 50 Cent's already on it. 50's already dropping shit. Oh, he's dead. It's incredible. So I do not think it's the best look. Yeah, and Drake's whole weapon this whole time has been humor.

Yeah. Like it hasn't been tough. Rick Ross or Drake? Rick. Sorry, I said Drake. Yeah, yeah. Rick Ross' weapon of choice this whole time with Drake in his feud has been humor. And it's effective. Just being funny. This tough shit, you don't need to do it. Also, you don't, these guys are huge. You assume that they can fight. We don't know that. Get UFC fighting ass bodyguards.

There was one guy there that was so fucking big, dude. It was unbelievable. He was a mountain. The black guy that got absolutely demolished. He got folded. I didn't understand what was happening at first. I was like, where's security? And then I read a comment. I was like...

I was like, oh, that's the security. I was like, that's not good. - They're usually supposed to just be a deterrent. You see a giant man, you don't wanna do anything. But you know, they're big for a reason. Sometimes they gas out quick. Hit them one time in the gut and might go down. - The other thing you gotta consider is Canada, this whole beef has been basically getting called pussy this whole time.

they're going to take that away. Even if they are pussy to us, they're going to try to prove to you we're not pussy. Fuck you. Oh, yeah. They're down bad. They're Lord and Savior. It's like looking funny. Apparently, he don't get love in Toronto like he used to at all. But you're just going to keep calling us pussy. We've been made a joke of this whole time. Fuck that. Even if we don't fuck with him, we're going to. It's like my family. If I'm beefing with my family and you say something about him. Well, now let's go. And if you start calling our family pussy.

It's on. Gotcha. So what do you think happened, though? Do you think Drake was like, oh, Ross is going to be in Canada. We got to send some people to go make sure he acts right. Or do you think people were just there and they were like, ah, not yet. I think the latter. I think Drake would send goons, but I don't think those are Drake goons. I'm more towards it, first of all. Really? Yeah. Yeah. What? Of course. You're coming to my sake. It don't need to come from Drake, even. I know. Like, I don't think he ever said it. What I think is that...

The message is out. I think if Rick Ross goes there and he just plays his songs and then leaves and he's not disrespectful, probably nothing happens. Maybe he gets checked a little. Keep in mind, when Pusha T was in Toronto, what happened? They booed him, I think. They threw the water at the stage. And I think he got almost attacked on stage. Rick Ross had to know this was coming. There's no question. This is how it goes down. You have to look at Canada like a state.

It's not a country. It's a state. Yeah. And if you come to that state and you fuck with the governor...

You get touched. Yeah. I think everyone involved in that beef that was against Drake, they'll have problems whenever they go to Canada. I'm really curious to see what happens when Weeknd goes to Canada. Hmm. Why? I don't know if anything will happen to Weeknd. He's the biggest pop artist in the world right now. Yeah. Oh, I see, I see, I see. But he's intimately involved in this beef with Drake. I'm sure he got people that are supporting him in Toronto.

And I'm sure that there's people that are supporting Drake. And by people, I mean goons on both sides. Yeah. They're going to clash. I think it's neutral. I feel like it cancels out is my guess. Nope. You don't think so? There's too much to gain. Like, if you're a goon. It's a mess, bro. Yeah, it's like, nice, Hamilton. Like, you know Hamilton in the play that I'm going to get my shot. He wants the war because that gives him an opportunity to rise up. Yeah.

The goons are looking at this like, this is my opportunity to rise up. It's my opportunity to shine. Yeah, I don't think Kendrick goes to Canada. I think he's just like, we're not, I'm not even sure. I don't even think Kendrick. I'm saying the Canadians. Yeah, yeah. This Canadians is going back. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. You've got to see your family. The Weeknd was at the show in LA, right? I don't think he went on, obviously didn't go on stage, but I believe he was there. Here's what I'm, here's what I'm like, Drake liking the post and all that. It's like, dude, you're just making this. Liking which post? Apparently Drake liked the post of Rick Ross getting beaten up on somebody's page. He liked that post. That's far.

Yeah, but no, no, no. The move of it, sure, that's funny. Do that. But also, you're just escalating things. We saw this play out in 96, 97. People died. Escalating it, adding fuel to it, making it seem like you co-signed it. I don't think that's a good move because you got to go. And I don't know if Ross is super connected in Miami, but you got to go to Miami. Miami looks pussy.

You got to go all over California. California is riding for the West super hard. I would just at least act like even if you knew don't like shit, don't be public about it. Just fall back and be like, hey, man, that's just Canada riding. I can control that. You got a point. You're throwing fuel on a thing that I don't know you want to throw. And I know Drake rolls heavy with security and they could probably fight better than Ross's security. But why make it harder?

Why make it harder? Egos. Egos are crazy. You bring up an interesting point, which is the financial repercussions of this. Let's say, for example, I don't think any of them would adhere to this because Drake went and did the show in Philly immediately after the Meek Mill beef. I don't think it's going to stop any of them. I think that there is a false sense of security when you do roll around with that much security. Do you think it stops them in the Bay if he goes, you've got enough money, you can hire the right people?

Because then you get cops. Once you have undercover cops, you're good. Yeah, because nobody wants to fuck with the cops. Because if you fuck up a cop, then you're going to life. And they're the most expensive security. So I think that, again, you will have that kind of confidence that you can operate whatever. But to what you were saying, beefing with a certain person that restricts your ability to go tour in that area ends up becoming very expensive. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, let's say us as standups, like let's say we are beefing with some place and we now can't tour all of Florida. Yeah. All of Canada. Like you could actually calculate how much money you're going to lose because of that beef. Yeah. And,

And Cali is one of the wealthier states in terms of amount of spending power. You don't think, I'm agreeing with you 100%. California by itself, as Miles just said, is the largest economy in the world. Meaning, if you're Drake, you could go and do an arena in San Diego, an arena in Orange County, an arena in LA, an arena in San Francisco, Sacramento, and inland shit is what like,

He won't cut all that off. He'll get the right security, but it is expensive. That's going to cost him. And that security is not cheap. And you got houses out there. Oh, you're not hanging it. You can't even go home. And this was, I honestly look at- For what? I loved Kendrick's, all the moves and the beef, but the one thing I was a little worried about was when he said that, you think the bagel that you disrespect Pac thing. I was like, you're just, this is-

really asking people to, that was, yeah. And that, I was like, this could go very far left. If people don't know, hey, this is all entertainment, there's always idiots out there. That's some Taylor Swift shit. That was the one thing about it I didn't like. I didn't love that line and I've supported pretty much every movie made, but that line I didn't love. I remember Taylor did that shit to Scooter. To Scooter, yeah, yeah. Let them know how you feel. Let Scooter Braun know how you feel.

And you're invoking your audience to go act on your behalf. Now, some of your audience, if you have millions of followers, are going to be mentally retarded. Yes. But they love you so much, they'll do anything for your support. They're retarded for you. For you. Yeah.

you're their... You're their king. But in a rap beef, why do you guys not like the line? Because I think it's inciting, because I think we love the beef as long as it's not violent. Nas and Jay-Z was the best because it didn't get violent as far as we knew. Pac and Big, we look at like, fuck, man, people died over that. That was so stupid. He also doesn't say, you're not going to come to the Bay. He says, it's going to be your last stop. Yeah. You think the Bay can let you disrespect Pac? And you're basically saying, yo...

The bae, you're pussy if you let him disrespect pop. Yeah. He's basically saying, if you don't do something. But then he's also calling Drake pussy if he doesn't go to the bed. Yeah. Right. Oof. So it's like. I'm a fan, dude. Again, but that fucking line, I kept thinking in the back of my mind. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a 69 guy. You got to make that my bully handle. But, fuck, man. What?

What are you... That line, I was like, that could escalate things. And it seems like this might... I fear this is the domino that starts to escalate. And that's why I'm like, Drake, why are you liking this? This is only going to go up from here. Cease fire now is what we need. Cease fire now, dog. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't want to see nobody die behind me. That would be a good song. Drake dropped that song. Collab. Ceasefire Now. That's what we need. Drake need a banger, bro. I haven't heard this Camilla one that much. It has not. It's not outside at all. Yeah. He dropped a couple so far and neither one really... I told you he should just be quiet for a while, man. But I've heard this theory. I don't know if this is true. But apparently it's possible that he might be contractually obligated to be a part of certain projects as a part of his deal. Hmm.

And he has to continue to put out these tracks that are scheduled for the summer. That is true. They got scheduled six months ago. And so now he's like, I should lay low, but I've already committed to this thing with Camilla. And so it has to go out. I've already committed to this thing. It has to go out. That is true. And that would be. Because they made this track a minute ago before this beef even started. Yeah. And maybe it got held off two months because it's like, oh, it's really hot right now. And that is what happens when you're the biggest artist in the world.

is that you're not going to just make a song on a whim based on how you feel. Things are scheduled throughout the year. Your time is so non-existent that they need to schedule these things like that. Got you. So now you're losing money to delay or to break contract. I don't even know if you can break contract, but you're losing money. And it's like, how long do you wait for? Also, imagine what those artists were thinking during this beef.

Because before the beef, they're like, I got a song with Drake that's going to come out this summer. I'm going to be the biggest artist in the world. And then, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap. Your career. That's crazy. But that was a thing in the beef where

Rick Ross was mad at Drake because Drake apparently didn't allow French to put out a song that he was on. And that was one of those things. Put out a cease and desist. Yeah. So he's fucking up the bread. Exactly. Because, yeah, I figured that as well, where like Rick don't really give a fuck. Like if, if, if the money's right, Rick don't care. Yeah. That's what it seems like to me. Yeah. That's one of the ones I really want to know his reasoning for his beef with Drake. Cause it can't be even the friendship. Yeah.

Like it gotta be something. Well, he represented Meek Mill. Meek Mill was his client.

he manages meek. But he didn't play any sides during the beef. Exactly. He didn't stick up for me. Yeah, yeah. Nobody stuck up. And this is honestly what Rick Ross should have done, which is what he did, I think, the day after he dropped the Drake diss, is he performed the songs he did with Drake, I think, at like a high school prom or some shit and just leaned into the humor. If he went to Canada and just leaned into the humor and did all the songs with Drake and then made a joke about it. Well, Al was saying he still does the songs. Yeah, so just make the joke of it. Put that clip up. Got it. Hey, Drake, I still need these.

He's one-off humor this whole time. You can't. I know the ego gets there, but I would have loved it. That would have been funny. This, I'm legit concerned about where this goes. I might just be 40. No, no, no. You're actually speaking facts. While we're talking about this music shit, there is a documentary that is on, and let me preface this by saying, what is the greatest concert I ever said I've been to? Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Greatest concert I've ever been to in my entire life was Taylor Swift. I say that Taylor Swift is Michael Jackson today. It's the closest thing we have to Michael Jackson. You call her mother. You call her mother. I call her mother. Much the ire of the internet, I've said that this is the closest thing we have to Michael Jackson. Massive Taylor Swift fan. Was not a Taylor Swift fan until I went to that concert. And then I saw it and I was like, this girl's the truth. This is just the most amazing concert I've ever seen.

There's a documentary on Max right now that is HBO's streaming service. And I believe it's only two parts. Yeah. And it is about Taylor Swift. Bad blood. Bad blood. Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun. Now, Scooter is our homie. I just want to point this out. Yeah. Okay? Love Scooter. Love Scooter.

I tell him all the time that Taylor's the greatest artist I've ever seen live. Okay? I've been telling him this for fucking years. Yeah. 100%. I think he knew this while I was- He knew. He knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He invested. He agrees. Yeah. I watched this documentary. It's a two-part documentary. One part is Taylor's side, one part is Scooter's side. Yes. That one's cool. You said it? No, I didn't say it, but I- You watched it. Okay. You guys should all watch this. Yes.

The fact that this document, keep this in mind, Taylor Swift is the biggest artist in history. She's factually the biggest artist in history. This documentary is almost impossible to find on Max. Yeah. It's never hit number one on Max. Yeah. This is, let me clarify this again. Imagine at the height of Michael Jackson's career, a documentary came out on one of the premier streaming services about Michael Jackson.

And nobody was talking about it. Wouldn't you go, what's going on over here? It almost makes you think that there's some information in that documentary that Taylor's team might not want the world to see. And if you watch this documentary, you will find out that Scooter Braun is a fucking asshole now. You will see that

What we think happened and what actually happened between Taylor and Scooter is a world apart. She framed a very different narrative than the reality. This girl, this girl is, she's truly brilliant.

And she's incredibly genuine. Meaning, and the power of when someone is genuine is whenever they say something, you believe it to be true. When you watch her like on interview shows or even like on interview in the red carpet, whatever she says in that moment is the most pure, authentic, genuine thing. Like she melts you. It's amazing her ability to communicate. When you watch her just talking to a single person,

you see why she's so endearing and so likable. When Kanye calls her and asks her kind of for permission to do the song, but it's not even really, I think that was actually framed really poorly too.

Even the way she's on the phone. She's not on the phone like the biggest artist in the world. She's on the phone like a little girl that thinks that she's going to be bullied by her older cousin. Kanye stole her moment. And she's not on stage like yelling, da-da-da. She's just kind of like, oh. They asked her after that, like, how do you feel about that? She was like, oh, wasn't that good? They're like, were you a fan of Kanye West? And she goes, yeah, it's Kanye West. Now, there's a power to that.

And I also understand like what she represents to women is something that we'll never understand. She is petty.

And women wish they were petty. They're not petty to that dude that fucked him over because they still want to get him. They're still in love with them. They're still heartbroken. They wish that he would let them back into their lives. Not Taylor. Taylor's coming out. She's fucking clapping full. She's putting the fucking they not like us treatment on every single dude she's with. She's Michael Jordan. She remembers everybody that wronged her. And I'm going to fucking destroy you. Now.

What if I would posit this theory just from watching it? And I implore you all to watch this because it paints a very, very different story. What if Taylor was really upset at Justin Bieber, Steve Borchetta or Scott Borchetta? Yeah, the guy who was the person who originally owned the record label. Big Machine. Big Machine that Scooter ended up buying.

What if the beef was with Justin Bieber, Scott Brachetta, and Kanye West? And the problem with Justin Bieber and Kanye West is they have fan bases, man. They have people who ride for them. They have people who are ready to go to war, ready to fight, ready to sling death threats, ready to go out there and get active, just like Swifties are. Beliebers are out there. Kanye's fans, as we know, are fucking out there. Yeah.

What if the easiest person to make the scapegoat for all of your issues is the person who doesn't have the fan base? Yeah. What if her ire for Justin and her ire for Kanye all gets funneled into Scooter? Subconsciously or consciously? I think it's, I think that she is a brilliant woman and she's calculating all these things in real time.

What would her beef be with Justin? He was dating Selena, and she was best friends with Selena, and maybe it wasn't going that great with Selena, so she was like, you're treating my girl shitty, so I got her. And also, he was antagonistic. Like,

There's this moment in the doc where I think this has been put all over the world, but Justin posted a picture on Instagram of him FaceTiming Kanye Scooter and a DJ named Martin Garrix. And he goes, the caption of it is, what's up, Taylor? Yeah, hi guys, I'm Mp. He's antagonizing. What a lot of people don't realize is, and they don't even say this in the doc, that picture he took from Martin Garrix's Instagram, they didn't take the picture directly.

Like the idea of the picture wasn't, hey, let's antagonize Taylor. The idea with the picture is, hey, all of us are together. We're boys. Let's do it. And then he took it from Martin Garrickson's gram and then use it to antagonize. You look at it. Justin's the big image. Yeah. So it wasn't him that took it. Yeah. It was them that screenshotted Justin. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But he's still antagonizing. Well, Justin is doing the antagonization, but it's not like Scooter, Kanye, and Justin are all coming together to antagonize. Yeah. You know what I mean? But there's no smoke from Taylor to Justin. Yeah. I don't see the songs about Justin. Yeah. I don't even see that many about Kanye, to be honest with you. She took some shots at him. But for as big a thing as she... She took that whole album to a motherfucker she dated for a week. Mm-hmm.

And just like Japs to Kanye. She ain't giving him no pussy, that's all. I think...

She is. That could be true. Is it also possible she's just an incredibly shrewd businesswoman? And instead of paying for her masters, which apparently Scooter did offer, and there was a negotiation, and she didn't love the price. Instead of doing all that, you know what I could do for free? Rerecord everything, get my fans to buy it even more by weaponizing victimhood. And now, not only do I not have to pay hundreds of millions for my masters, I'm going to be a fucking billionaire. So...

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that move is fire. So but here's the thing that's really interesting about that move.

And even the documentary doesn't get this right. We even need to go back in the math a little bit. So obviously the big dispute is she has this big machine record label. She's been with Simon for like 13 years or something like that. Uh, she finally is done with her deal. And, uh, she basically wants to buy her masters back big machine goes, well, we can do a workout. So every new album that you give us, we'll give you one of your old albums masters. And, uh,

They talk about there's also another one where it's a complete buyout. And she's like, you know what? I don't want to do that. Okay. Now, there's an important component that's happening during this time that nobody's aware of. But I'll tell you guys in a second. She goes, I don't want them. Matter of fact, it's okay. Okay.

She says she doesn't want her mask. She doesn't want it. There's email correspondence for all this. Okay. Now, keep in mind, Taylor has said throughout this process, I never knew anything. They didn't even give me the opportunity. Her words are on video saying this. Is her dad in? Oh, we're going to get to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. While there's email correspondence saying otherwise. Now, her dad, once she signed with this record label, bought a 3% share of the record label. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

So he is a shareholder and on the executive board. Now, in the documentary, they say he didn't want to have to lie to his daughter about certain things. So he denied opening all the emails. He was on the executive board, but he didn't open the emails. But they placed one of the management people from Taylor on the emails. So one of that manager guys who was on the team saw every single thing. Now, once it came out that

There was email records of Taylor knowing what was going on and her team knowing what was going on. And that was not that information was not consistent with what Taylor was saying. That guy who was on those emails, that manager just so happened to retire. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Maybe he was tired of his job. Maybe you no longer want to work for the bigger sellers of all time. Yeah. Yeah.

Or maybe you get put out to the pasture. Who fucking knows? It doesn't matter. Point is, she decides not to. Two ways to buy it out. She decides not to. She signs to Universal. Okay? That really pisses off Big Machine. Why the fuck would you sign to Universal? I gave you an opportunity, one, buy them, or two, earn them out. And you're going to go sign to Universal. Now, Universal has made a deal with Taylor that nobody else is aware of. And that deal is...

that they were going to buy the Masters back for her and give it to her. This isn't even in the documentary. So Universal plans to give her back the Masters. That's why she goes to them. The guy who was at Universal, Lucian Grange, I believe his name is, right? He signed the biggest artist in history away from Big Machine.

How do you think that makes Big Machine feel? Pretty salty. You think he wants to sell the Masters to Universal? Okay. There's this other guy that comes around named Scooter Braun. He didn't know any of this.

He goes, does Taylor want to buy the Masters? Because if she does, I would like her to be involved in this. I'm investing in Taylor. I want to be involved for a business. I think she's the biggest fucking thing in the world. And what was, at the time, what was Scooter's relationship with Taylor? Was there any? No. She had a little issue with him because he repped Kanye and she took that as a slap in the face, apparently. Oh, really? Not yet. Oh, wow. Okay. All right, take it back. I'm pretty sure the timing isn't even yet. I'm pretty sure the timing isn't yet. Matter of fact, she...

Scooter didn't rep Kanye until after the famous video comes out. Ah, okay. So she's upset at Scooter for repping Kanye, but he didn't even rep until after the famous. Now, he did promote the video and he promoted the art piece, which is like, has her in a wax sculpture naked, which I think is kind of like someone, there's a woman's body. Like, yeah, you can say it's art. It's a, you know, statement about culture, but you can also be like, yo, there's my titties. I actually feel like kind of violated. Yeah. A hundred percent. So I'm like, yeah, that's just, I give her that. That's cool. Completely. But,

When that call happened with Kim and all them and how they were doubling down and making it look like she was lying, which she wasn't lying. If anything, I defend the fuck out of Taylor with that. She said, I don't know if I'm comfortable with it just yet. And then never mentioned the bitch line. So she never gave consent. She never sees. She's like, that didn't seem that bad.

But she never said, yeah, go run with it. And then Kim and them tried to make her look like some fucking hypocrite. It was some gross shit. Yeah, after that. It came out after that. It was gross. Kim lied to her. Yeah, it's corny. Anyway, Scooter tries to do it. Scooter buys the things, fucks up the whole deal from Universal. You know who loves the fact that they're fucking over Universal? Big Machine. You just bought out, you stole my artist's

And now you think I'm going to sell you the Masters so you can make even more money with it? Nah, fuck you. I'm going to sell them to this other guy. Can I ask you a question? Yes, please. It seems kind of like Taylor's made the label, right? Well, the label, when Scooter bought, he bought the entire label. She was for $300 million. She was $140 million of it.

She wasn't even the majority of the label. Now, he's not buying it if she's not on there. Well, she might have been the plurality, right? She is the reason you buy it. But keep in mind, there are still $160 million worth of assets that are on that label. So my question is, why wouldn't Big Machine just be like, yo, Taylor, we signed you. You gave us seven amazing albums. We did an amazing job together. Just as a sign of good faith, we're going to give you back your master's.

Like in my mind, if you're an artist, it's like worth 140. But my question is, if you put in all this time, you're an artist, you make all these songs. Why are you not entitled to having your art that you make? Cause that's not the business model. That is the artist model that we all feel.

was that way, but... That's my point. This is public perception. People look at this and they go, look, she made the songs. She wrote them herself. You can see the pen and paper. She recorded them with her voice. She played all the instruments. Why is she not entitled to it? That seems kind of fucked up. So...

I think Dave Portnoy has like the best description of this. Ironically, this, I know that he's like the biggest Taylor Swift fan. He shits on a scooter all the time, but like his model is much similar to scooters. So what he says is, especially with the Call Her Daddy thing, it's like our business model is to take 20 different bets. We bet on 20 different podcasts, maybe one blows and that's what can pay for all this.

And that's what record labels do. Whether you like it or not, it sucks. Once you're the artist that's making all the money, you're like, fuck, I want more fucking money. I completely get this. But there's 19 other artists who only eat because you were successful.

And that is that is the game and the way and that one pays for the other fucking 19. And I don't think people realize that about the music industry. It's kind of set up to where nine nine people don't make it. And one person does. And so you've got to, like, lean on the person that does make it to get back the bet on the other. And those people and that one person does make it is like, well, I was always going to make it. Why the fuck do I have to pay for those other people?

Because everyone who makes it believes that they were always going to make it. And there was no option. Nobody's like that surprised by it. You dedicate your life to it. And Taylor probably would have made it any other way. She would have made it no matter what. But she happened to make it with them. I don't know if you want to bog down the whatever with like some of these other facts, but some of the things that she says just outright were not true. Like she said, Scooter tried to make me sign an NDA if I wanted to buy the Masters that I would never publicly defame him. I could never criticize him for the rest of my life. That's just not true at all.

The NDA was, you can't discuss the deal, which is every NDA that you ever sign. Also, there's another thing. In the documentary, they go, not only did Scooter sell the music to this company, because he ended up selling it as well. Yeah. He also made sure that he would continue to profit on it. Yeah. That's not the case. He sold it to this private equity company, Shamrock, that's owned by Disney. Right. They were scared because...

Taylor said she's going to re-release the albums. So they're like, we're not going to give you all the money. Yeah, this is worth $400 million. We're going to give you $330 million, and you're going to have to earn out the other $70 million, because if she starts pumping out albums, that's going to kill our profit. Scooter goes...

I think the more people listen to the new albums, the more they'll listen to the old. They'll compare them. What is it called? The rising tide lifts all boats. And he was right. He ends up earning it out. But it wasn't, hey, I need to be involved in the upside. It was they were scared to give him market value for the albums because they thought it would be undercut by her re-recording. Why did Scooter sell to that company instead of Universal?

I think they were probably made the biggest deal. One. Oh, actually he offered to sell it to Taylor. Yeah. And then she blackmailed him. Wait, what? This is not in the documentary either. She didn't blackmail him, but she was basically like, not her, but like her team is basically like sell it at a loss and then she'll stop using all this me too language about you.

Oh, shit. She uses a lot of Me Too language. If you look at it, it's like, I did not give my consent. Yeah. She was using these, like, sexually charged words to describe what's going on. And the team, there's, like, email correspondence of all this. That's the thing. It's like, sell it at a loss, and then she'll stop painting you as this bad guy. But only if you sell at a loss. And he's like...

Fuck that. You've already painted me as a bad guy. You sent all of your fans at me. They're giving me death threats. They're giving my kids death threats. Yeah. Like when she said, well, she said, I never knew about this. It's happened without my consent. Let Scott Borchetta and Scooter Braun know how you feel. She knows. Matter of fact, in that Kanye phone call, he goes, hey, I want to get your permission because you have an army behind you. She's aware. She also realizes that like Scott Borchetta's name gets no clout.

So she stops referencing Scott Borchetta and only references Scooter. Scott Borchetta is the guy who owned the fucking Masters.

Now, I understand the frustration of her having her masters with the guy that represents Justin, who she fucking hates because of Selena. And then I guess the Kanye thing would be happening later. But still, I understand that frustration. It's like this guy owns my work and he represents these two people that I fucking hate.

And I can't get angry at them because then their fans are going to shit on me and that's going to just be ugly. So I'll just get angry at that guy. You know what's crazy is I looked up on Twitter after I watched the doc. I was like, I just want to see what the comments are. So many of the comments are, I just watched a documentary. I love Taylor even more. Fuck Scooter Braun even more. And it's like, oh, y'all are just going to live in the reality you want to live in. That's... It's an emotional thing. And she is...

Brilliant. There is nobody. This is the brilliance of Taylor Swift. You ready? And I love her. It was the greatest concert I ever met you. This is the genius of Taylor Swift. You're scared of them Swifties, right? No, no, no. You're right. I am. You're right. This is the genius. Ready? Has there ever been anyone in history that is a billionaire, the most successful in their field?

truly unstoppable, chart-topping success, and also unanimously thought of as a victim. Impossible. To manage those two things is masterful. I mean, the emotional IQ necessary to have all of your fans still see you as a victim while everybody that has aggrieved you

has been punished, thrown to the way inside, fucked up. Now, I tell Scooter, I was like... Michael Jackson did it for a little bit. Oh, he tried. He tried. Yeah, I know, yeah. But I tell Scooter, I was like, yo, nobody's got to feel bad for you. You're a billionaire too. The fuck are we complaining about? You ended up killing it. I understand where you're coming from, where you're like, yeah, but people think of me like...

as this thing that isn't true. Like, there is facts and evidence in emails that shows that she is lying. This is not a true thing. And people still think of me that way. And that would frustrate the fuck out of me. His ex-wife was saying she was getting phone calls at the house threatening the lives of her and the kids. Like, this is not...

Yo, I made money. That's great. You don't have to feel bad for me, but that's fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't like, what's the, what is the Taylor Swift breakup song? That's a three dimensional. We were both at fault. Things just didn't work out. Sorry about that, man. I wish it did. Yeah. But that's not art. Yeah.

Yeah, I see your point. I understand your point, but that would be boring. Like, where's the rap song where it's like, well, he did have a reason to shoot up my homies, but I have to get my payback. That's the rap. You want, like, emotionally measured. I mean, what's that? What's that? That good-looking screen there? Well, you want, whap, whap, whap, whap, yeah, fuck him up. Call him a pedophile. We were too young.

or whatever you know what I mean we were too young there's songs that are like that everywhere yeah exactly the uh yeah it's you want to but you understand the point it does the art is better this way without a doubt 100% yeah but it's just crazy to see like big machine or whatever has the emails on their website yeah like this proof is there it just shows like humans are so emotional like

We just want you to represent a feeling we have. And then if you don't, we're not even going to look the other way. I bet you, Taylor and Scooter have never spoken, by the way, since they, they spoke to me three times before this. And once shit started to cook, they've never spoken again. I bet you, my suspicion is once the narrative is set, you don't want to talk to somebody that could,

Finish, finish my sentence. Yeah, I mean, like you talk to someone that then makes you feel empathy for them and see both sides, you're like, oh, damn, maybe I did overreact a little. Yeah. No, like you're making money and have your army going with your narrative. Like, don't change it. Live in your bubble. Yeah. Game of Thrones. House of the Dragon. Did he walk?

I've only watched about 30 minutes of the episode. Oh, okay. Dude, this conversation you're having right now, right at the end. I mean, I'm down for you guys that we could talk about it. The last thing I was thinking on the Taylor point is that I think she really did benefit from being, again, I don't think the Kanye thing made her famous. I think that's obviously not true. But it did thrust her into a national spotlight in the eyes of the American people as someone that...

taken advantage of as a victim. And that's really, really beneficial. And that has never stopped happening. No. She saw the power in that. And she was a victim there. I think what happened there was wrong. But being brought into the national spotlight in that way, I think is really beneficial. It's funny, I was watching that, I was watching the doc and they talk about what Kanye calls her and they have this interaction, which is quite charming. And he goes, he asks her if it's okay if he puts a line in the song. And the line in the song that he asks is,

Not, I made that bitch famous. It's, I think Taylor Swift might owe me sex. That's the line he asks her, okay?

and he sets it up, like, I think you might be upset. And then she said, he goes, she goes, is it mean? He goes, no, no, no, it's just whatever. Like, you feel so bad for this girl. And then he goes, I think Taylor Swift might owe me sex. And she goes, oh, well, that's not that mean. She kind of laughs a little. She goes, okay, well, I just kind of need to think about it, but I thought it was going to be way worse. She doesn't co-sign it, but he just thinks about it. He doesn't ask her about the, I made that bitch famous. Here's the thing. I genuinely believe that

believes he made her famous. So he's going into that call like, well, this is undisputable. I don't need to ask her this line. Like, I made her famous, so that is obvious. From a person, if you're not in tune with pop music at all, I wasn't aware of Taylor Swift. Until that moment. So I'm honestly like defensive of

of kanye with that because i bet he was blindsided when he found out she was upset with that yeah he's like it's like as if big sean was like i can't believe kanye said he made me famous he'd be like i didn't make you famous nobody fucking knew you yeah right so whatever there's so many of these things just like every like great controversy there's so much information swirling around and nobody talking to one another yeah like you ever like uh getting an argument with your wife and like

Neither of you is saying how a thing that they did made you feel. Yeah. And then when you reconcile, you're like, oh, you didn't mean it that way? Yeah. That's this whole drama. You got to get mom and Scooter on the phone, bro. The mother, whatever you call her. How awesome would that be? Get them on the phone. That's it. She reached the top. There's nothing she can do. He reached the top. There's nothing more he can do. Like, what if they had a conversation and just squashed it and she was like,

Yeah, I shouldn't have told the fans to go do that shit to you guys. I knew that was her perspective. And then Scooter was like, I wish I didn't pump that famous video as much. I could see how that made you feel and it was uncomfortable. I wish that you got back to me about buying the fucking albums. Or I wish I knew Universal was planning to buy them in the first place. If I knew that, maybe I would try to partner with both of you guys on it.

But once you're set in your narrative, how can Taylor come out and be like, yeah, I was actually just kind of manipulating my fan base to be mean to him and using the Me Too movement? I mean, when you say it like that. She can never say that. When you say it like that. Yeah, I wouldn't say it like that. She can never say it like that. I wouldn't say it like that. If we're trying to make this call happen, I wouldn't say it like that. I wouldn't say it like that. But it's crazy. Here's the thing about the documentary. It kind of is boring, I'll be honest with you.

Like, it's not the best documentary. I mean, entertainment laws. Yeah, but you knew a lot more shit that the doc doesn't say. That makes it way more interesting. I also noticed watching the doc, the Taylor side, they're both like 50 minutes each. 35 minutes of it is what a great person Taylor is and everybody loves her and all these other things happen to her. And then there's like 5 to 10 minutes of here's what happened with the deal.

And then the Scooter side is like 10 to 15 minutes here's Scooter is and then 30 minutes here's facts about the deal. And I thought that was telling. Like they let us know that Scooter's family died in the Holocaust like 30 seconds in. Yeah. Like they go hard in the paint. They're like, yo, by the way, it got nothing to do with Taylor. Taylor not German. You know what I mean? There's no reason to bring up the Holocaust. But immediately

in the beginning of Scooter's side is like, by the way, Scooter's whole family died in the Holocaust or survived the Holocaust. They got him doing like a little, what is it, school presentation at like seven years old talking about the Holocaust. I'm like, what the fuck does this guy do with that thing? Smart. There you go. Okay, UFC 303. Real quick or we go to Patreon? Patreon. Okay, we go to Patreon. Guys, we love you. We appreciate you. We'll see you at Patreon. Patreon.com slash flagrant. See y'all over there. Peace.