Trump wins! How it happened and what's next
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okay. So let's kick off sex. You are at morlock on election night. I I thought I just be great if you could tell us a little bit about what the scene was like, how was IT and when did you guys kind of know that prom had kind of the Victory in the bag was at pre, uh, the pulse coming in because you had pulsate data early or you you know tells a little bit about the experience there and when and all kind of came together.

Yeah, I went over there, I guess around seven thirty. I want to say yesterday, time talker invite me to come on a show. Tucker was doing a live stream from the library and morale go that actually never been over there before.

There was also a dinner going on in the ballroom, which was, I think, primarily for morale go members. And you know, there are some centers, there are members that campaign. And then there was another room set up with a bunch of TV for basically the staff to watch the results come in.

When I first got there, people are kind of just watching, trying to find out the early results. I would say that the whispers were positive, but people didn't firmly know more than the rest of us, you know, is kind of waiting for the results to come in. I did get a chance to take a photo with the president.

actually. Elon came in separately around the same time, and we've got a very member photograph here. When I shock the present hand, I got to tell you he was cool as a cucumber. He did not seem nerves.

feel confident like he had IT in the bag.

Yeah, I think he was confident, but I don't think he was acting like he had IT in the bag. Anything like that didn't know yet, but he was just super, super relaxed, ed, and calm and taking for this level. And he was like.

you remember the moment when his hand touch yours take us to and .

back a little bit? Yes.

and he gives you a shake. He gives that little shape to deserve a little dominance to give you the shake.

IT was just a Normal handshake, but my point is like, I could detect no nervousness whatsoever, his part and luck. The restaurant where we were like, nervous, we were wondering.

was going to have nervous yeah.

And what we guys doing, just hanging out, having cocktails, having dinner, just ever wandering, chilling, what's the thing? What's the seam? Like a maroga?

There's a dinner in the ballroom. Actually, I saw jar. Their jail was very nice to me, asked me you want to set down at the, at the dinner and I I could have joined them.

But then I decided the lifetime with you guys, and I pulled in. junior. We did the life with don. Junior, officially .

number, by the way, five hundred large. Oh no. Is that true? Five hundred thousand.

Well, I was down. You told us. But luck is a problem. I, I, I live on b each thing that's the pond, each community as members morale go. yeah.

So I think that there were IT wasn't a huge group of people at malloc and really all the supporters were convened the convention center in pm b or thousands of people there. I think originally that I talked about doing up election night party at morale go, but I just got too big, so they moved into the convention center. So I don't know whatever IT was that.

I dropped off the lifestream with you guys. I then moved to the convention center, got back on with nut, and then we were kind of waiting at the convention center. We were all feeling good increasingly.

So throughout the night, I would say that went pennsylvania. Ia finally got called. Then I think everyone knew that I was in the bag at that point, and IT was just a matter of time before the election got called for for trump. And then, you know, at some point they kind of hurt us downstairs into that large ballroom where trump gave his Victory speech with the rest of the campaign staff.

So the final tally that looks like it's gonna be three hundred and twelve electoral college votes for president donal trump versus commoter asses two twenty six just for context, and twenty sixteen trump one with three hundred and four electoral votes and by in one in twenty twenty with three hundred and six. So it's a pretty sweeping Victory. He won all the supposed swing states this year, but fairly resulting leaders. There's no real super close calls is some close calls, but but pretty resulting Victory chh. What happened?

Well, turn to really good question. I think that there's many layers of the answer, but I think in its most basic calculation, I think that the bottom, a lot of the democratic party, and if you look at why there's a simple explanation and there's the more nuanced explanation, I think the simple explanation is like they just lost the script. I think that there is so many people that just got really tired of being spoken at and labeled.

Massages, racist, fascist, transform, whatever IT was. And there is just these literary of these judgmental labels that would come out instead of engaging on the topics at hand. So I think the democratic party played this game of trying to use identities, gender, races, as a bid to basically get people that they thought should always vote in their direction to continue to support them.

And instead, what happened with people just started to think for themselves and say, who would not a second? I'm just a Normal person that wants to be left alone. What matters to me, and I think what Donald trump spoke to was the desire for folks to have economic prosperity, a safe neighborhood, a predictable educational curriculum where these kids could go to school, not be indoctrinated, and come out the other side and just know some useful skills, so that take a good, a good job and do Better than they did.

And all these basic roots ended up on the ballot. And so IT was a bunch of perception versus just a bunch of hard realities. And I think trump state focused and ultimately make sure that people understood that that's what he was focused on, anything the democrats just wanted his place of demagogical and labels.

And I think IT was just a resulting defeat. And David, I just want you to like just to put a pin on hour sounding. IT is in california in new york, which I would say are the two most prolific questions of the latest liberal thinking.

Democrats want those states in some of the nearest margins they've seen. I think in twenty twenty, they want california by twenty nine points. IT was barely half is what they want by this year in new york, is trunk to a twelve point margin.

So what is IT telling you? It's telling you that the democrats really need to return and get back to first principles. IT was a catch classical c dismissal. Of voguish, of cancer culture, of judge mentally ism.

IT was an ringing endorsement of a mirror racy of just plain, simple common sense of talking with people and two people being able to tolerate disagreements, remaining friends. All of those things wrong about IT and who he is just an absolute resulting Victory for just Normalcy. That's what I think we saw. We saw a return to Normalcy.

Jason, do you think that that message got across more clearly in this election than ever before, as some have claimed, because of the power of alternative media for reaching the audience, rather than having everything pushed through reporters in traditional legacy media? In this case, many of the candidates, particularly on the republican side, went direct to the audience through long foreign dcaa like ours, but also to rogan and legs and many others. And did that move the needle for a lot of people in a way that won this? Or was that the policies in the difference alone?

Yeah, I will. Clearly, being on podcast was a major part of trumps strategy that people are starting to report on right now. And you know in media, you go where the audience is, and I think the democrats just didn't get that.

Now stepping back, I think the number one problem here is the candidate that the democrats put up. And probably the close number two is inflation. And you know the economy, as you know, we all know it's the economy, stupid.

If you were paying two dollars for a cheeseburger at mcDonald's and now it's four dollars, that's what people are going to remember. And the inflation that occurred over the last four years was huge, and people cited that over and over and over again. So there's probably three buckets you could put this conversation into.

There's the candidate, CBA. Harris was a terrible candidate. SHE was put in at the last minute and he was annoyed and he didn't go through a proper primary.

I think that's probably number one in this entirely thing. IT was a terrible thing you you're saying number one is the canada is the candidate. Uh, number two, I think because remember, trump's incredibly unpopular as well and oca tics jump for winning and running an incredible campaign.

I mean, just they crushed IT on podcast with jd Evans, turned out to be spectacular on podcast and really delivered the message. And you know that number two is obviously inflation in the economy. And then I think number three is the bucket that trim started with, which is the country really, really does not like being told that their racist or sexist exacta cancel culture.

And you put those three things together. One of the things that's coming out right now is some of the ads, and that we will play an ad here. I wanted you guys to see this.

I think this ad sums up exactly how their camera was, and we will combine this ad with just some of the statistics that have come out of how many people have gone, right? This is sharleen in the god the breakfast club. For those who don't know, in a gonne trump .

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have in biological men compete against our girls and their sports meeting. Is for they. Trump is for you.

I prove this message.

And so how does ma come back from this with black voters, with male voters, with people who are tired of having this agenda shut down the throat, obviously, is going to be incredibly difficult. Plus he was in charge of the border claim he was in, plus he was in charge of, you know, inviting more in charge to the economy when inflation spite, terrible candidate, combined with a bad track record, combined with a flaws campaign from trump, I think easy Victory.

And you know, if we pull up this F T chart, nick, that I sent you, I had a time and I waited this, you know, america's love winners and innovation, and they hate socialism and this work nonsense. And if you look at how from support increased, look at this to math. Every single demographic, black, asian, has spanned nine seventy five year, very moderately, very modestly went left. And White college women very modestly went left in terms of increasing support.

So is the hard shift right, including some category. So, so the biggest, the biggest shift right was in his panic.

And asian popular people, I think who you can, you can double click on. Young people, his panic and asians. Asia's believe in meritocracy, I think, is what most people have read into that drama.

Tics, swing and his panics are anti or more traditional family values. And that's probably what push that so much. I want to just get take on that in relation to you are handy capping of the election and then how much commoner and how much the inflation played.

I think that there are three ways to kind of identify and tell me you guys think these are the wrong vectors. There's either the policies, the candidate and the methods of the campaign.

all of IT, all three, right?

That's how I kind of break down what happened in the selection cycle. There's a big difference between the candidates as people. Some people cannot see past the fact that kala did not get any primary vote. Some people cannot see past yet the behavior of Donald trump on twitter and when he talked to people and how he has talked to people and perceived to be a bully and the felony conviction. And some people cannot get past other factors of those who can tes, and then some people can get tasted IT.

I've been saying this did since i'm doing the face, but i'll try IT again. I think that the mainstream media has been working hand in hand with the democratic party to propagate and move forward an agenda that tried to vilify Donald drop. I did not know that when I initially encountered him in twenty fifteen as a candidate.

But what you're supposed to do, and is an adult, is once you start to see a pattern of behavior, you know, this is for the safety security of your family. This is about how you think about economically taking care of your family. Like you have to be underwrite decisions from first principles. You must be prepared to change your mind when you see important information. And I have set this till I bloom the face.

But i'll say IT again, if I think of all of the people in the political infrastructure amErica that I have met and spend time with from bill clinton on, I remember sitting in having dinner with barack obama the day of braxy and getting a note that he read, and he said, oh my gosh, he says, well, the u. Cages pull out. I was sitting across from him that dinner i've been with all these people.

The democrats only come to me to ask me for money. The only politician that is ever called me just to have a conversation, just to say thank you and be kind. The only one has been dollar trump.

Isn't that incredible of all of the people? Every other person is only ever called and ask me for money. So what does that mean? I think what that means is that there has been a concerted effort to perturb the way that you can interpret who he is separately.

There's been a considered effort to prop up who ever is sitting against him in opposition. And I think this is an opportunity to finally acknowledge that if you trust these traditional legacy sources of helping you to get to a decision, you're gonna trick. There's that old saying, you know, for me once, shame on you.

But full me twice, shame on me, because I am now allowing this to happen. And I think that for a lot of americans, that is what happened. I think IT is really as simple as that. I think they were able to see through the venir of an attempt to mind and corner somebody and on the other side, and attempt .

to basically .

play on vibes and feelings and emotions. And I don't think that amErica wants that. That is not what they want in running the country. They want somebody is serious running the country where you can have disagreements with them, and you can still find an opportunity to work together with those people. I think it's that sex.

Do you do you think about how important the policy versus the individual versus the way they ran the campaign, the media, and how they reach people as as kind of three vectors? And if so, how would you kind of rank those three and importance? And what change people's votes and got to vote differently?

Election prety good framework. I mean, you have the message, you have the messenger, and I guess you have the the campaign at a tactical level, I think it's a little bit unfair to blame this entire defeat on common here is being a bad messenger or candidate. It's true she's not the greatest candidate.

SHE has a lot of problems. However, I don't think he was dealt particularly strong hand. The fact the matter is that we did have rampant inflation in this country that really hurt people in their pocket books every time when they went to the grocery store.

And that resulted from the trillions of spending that was agree to by virtually the entire democratic party. Remember, they not only did they pass trillions in spending, they wanted four and half trillion more for build back Better. And the only reason that that happen is because mentioned and .

cinema voted against IT and you how much ching .

retirement and cinema basic kick out of the party SHE effectually told to s that at the all in summit. So this defeat is on the entire democratic party. The democratic party was in support of joba and commons agenda.

They were in support of the day fact to open border policies. They were in support of the soft on crime sorrow D A D. Arturo policies, you can see that even in california, which is a deep blue state, there is a huge backlash to this sort of insane soft on crime agenda.

Democrat, half seventy percent of california voted for prop thirty six, which basically reverse the access is a top forty seven, which a decade ago basically made chop sting legal in california. You know who opposed prop thirty six, despite his massive popularity, gave us some commerz won't say whether he's supported or not. So what you see is that even in blue states, the democratic party elites are completely out of touch with what people want.

And then finally, you've got foreign policy, where I think that the democratic agenda basically wanting to engage in a proxy war with flatman putin, because is the all evil that I think is blown up in the collective west face. That has been a disaster that was supported by the entire democratic party. So on issue after issue that I think matter in the selection, you cannot just put the blame combo heroes.

It's got to beyond democratic party as a whole. And just to echo what jo said about the cultural stuff, they've talked down to us. We've lectured us. They've insulted us. They've censored us.

They've gasoline us.

They've tried to cancel us, try to push to with fare. They turned elan into an enemy, which was the single worst own goal in history.

Remember, this wasn't just so, rogan, don't forget IT out as well. Very supported your rogan.

but with elon IT wasn't just disappointing. Or never invite him to the EV summit. IT goes all the way back to the ana and all this tweet telling him to f off and leave the state of california. So look, the democratic party as a whole has to own this, and they're not going to start winning elections again until they have an improvement in their agenda, not just their messenger.

So sex, is this the nature of democracy that over time, when you have a two party system and one party fears too far to the left, or one party fears too far to the right, people jump ship to the other party, and ultimately they pull the policies of the party that they left back to the middle, and that the way democracy is supposed to work and has work history, ally, so is this the way it's supposed to go? And do we project that four years? For now, the democrats will need to be and need to adjust to the center, and we'll see less of this extremism because of the way the voting turned out. This this cycle.

I think that's a very interesting question, is whether the democrats have the necessary introspection to learn from this loss. I would say that one of them does we look at matic lacy as if someone i've sparred with on on twitter. X is the democrat partisan.

He based tweed a list of principles that he thought the democratic ty needed to adopt. I read IT and retweet. I said, laughing my house off.

This is a list republicans incipit IT was all about, you know, opposing woking, being in favor of married and innovation. I'm like, great. Look, you know what if the democratic y party once to adopt these principles?

That's a wonderful thing for the country. I hope that they do IT okay. But will they do IT? I have my doubts. You look at the street by R A. Flesher, where he talks about who the democratic party now is.

yeah, I think that this is a really important tweet because it's sort of tells you sacks who's gonna be left in the room. And if these are the only people left in the room, the last thing they're going .

to do is admit defeat, right? Exactly what you see is that the democratic party base is this very affluent, very over educated, very nonreligious types. And Frankly, I wonder whether they're too out of touch to know.

The out of touch are certainly very windy and entitled. And I just don't think they're going na seed control of the party without a fight. And Frankly, we've disappeared so far up their own woke asses that I don't think they can find an electronic majority if they try.

So if these people stay in control the party and these are the people who are seeing having a mental breakdown on tiktok to posting all the videos, they're insulting the elector unless faced IT is not just on tiktok, it's on the legacy media. It's on msd, nc, basically the the legacy media who are trying to diagnose a psychosis in the american electorate to explain why they were so wrong. If those people staying control, I think that the republicans could have an electoral majority as far as the I can see.

I completely agree with you and i'll go even further, which is I think that the democrats will lose one of california, new york in the next eight years .

if they attack, right? So that's the key question.

The tack, if you think that the intelligence, a coron quote, the bill gates read half minds of the world that funds dustin mosk its that funds the democratic Opera is at the highest level.

If they can change, what are the odds that the state infrastructure or the local infrastructure changes? I think maybe and the margins, the local infrastructure can change more quickly and adapted because IT just costs a lot less money and it's much more concentrated. But I think the states are very lagger in that sense. And I think that they take the tablets scraps of what's left over. So if you have the democrats lead, there is no chance that if unless they change the planes of their platform, that the state legislators in new york and california, you're gona change what they believe.

Nick, pull up the the link I just sent. So let me just underscore important aspect for you guys on this, which is the amount of the democrats spent in this campaign. And obviously, they saw a significant negative return they lost across the board, senate, majority house, majority government ships, the White house.

But they spent more. Here you can see the difference between the Harris campaign and the trump campaign spending. Harris campaign spent nearly nine hundred million dollars. The tromp campaign three hundred and fifty million.

If you look at the super packs, the super pacs spent one point four billion on the down side, roughly four hundred million, four or fifty million on the republican side. And if you screwed down in some of these key senate races, the dams far outspent the republicans and still lost. The bio senate rates shared Brown fifty eight million dollars of spending, burning marino twenty one million.

And burning marino had a resounding Victory. John test eighty four million spending. Tim SHE twenty two million ten.

He won the the election. So across the board, the spending was greater. The return was .

neck money cannot overcome common sense.

So my question again is, does this not necessary attack to the center for the democrats? They want to see the party survive. And if you're gona continue to lose like this, they will not continue to maintain the same policy agenda that got them into this position in the first place.

J. K. L, do you think that the democratic party will need to tack to the center? They are going to start to .

adjust because of this. They started that process. They knew that going into the selection, and they started moving to the center.

IT was laughed hable in some cases because you have like koala talking about providing sex changes for prisoners. And you know all of those receipts came out. So even as he started to try to get to the center, people didn't buy IT.

So of course they're going to, but what's very interesting about spend there and the genius of trump is earned media. What's earned media? When you are trying to get hits in media, you will put them into two back.

It's paid and earned. What you just showed was paid. Paid is considered what you do if you can earn media.

All in podcast is an example of earned media. We do this every week. We earned our audience.

We didn't pay anybody for this audience. And I think that was what prompted. Uh, and unformed .

sometimes comes on the show earned that current.

And so that's the piece of this that I think is so important you don't have to pay to go on your rogan. But the candidate that the democrats put out there was so bad that he could not even and I think sex is you know, master at setting people up here. The the democrats put up a horrible, horrible candidate.

And I know just saying it's not koba could not go on joe rogan because they knew that I would be so embarrassing and that he would get so embarrassed that I would lose her vote. His doom e loop uh you know observation from, I don't know, eight weeks ago you had that sex was exactly correct. The more he spoke, the more he started going down.

SHE was leading trump at one point on Polly market in some of these places, and SHE absolutely proved that he could not communicate well. And so and I just wanted to circle back to the point about inflation. Here's the mcDonald Price increases that I was mentioning before end of twenty nine.

You could buy a mic chicken for a buck twenty nine, and in mid twenty twenty four, IT was three dollars in eighty and nine cent s the majority of americans wind up going to tackle all about mcDonald every week, some cases multiple times a week. You cannot discount exactly how profound this cost of eating food and buying groceries had on this election. IT is the number one issue. I think this election we can talk in our bubble about IT, but inflation.

This is what I mean by a return to Normal. These are Normal people problems. How much does this cost to put food on the table? How much does the cost to drive from point eight to point B? I wanted send my kid to a school where they go and they learn the A, B, C, and the one, two, three, because they're gonna to and compete with indian china. I don't want to worry about a doctor.

nation and all the .

other stories. I dict the doom loop for como Harris two months ago because he is just not good and interviews or being off the cuff for being unscripted.

not good as generous .

sextra omas was right about that.

absolutely. However.

and I would say the biggest problem in her campaign is that he would neither defend the biden Harris record nor say what you would do differently. The question you have to ask is why? And I think it's because he was in a really tough position that her own party put her in, which is they said, you can't criticize joe biden, yes, because he's the sitting president.

But at the same time, you can't defend him either because he's so unpopular. Well, what made him unpopular democratic party policies they should have Frankly, looking back, they shouted, just let joe biden defend his own record. The old man must have been in the White house.

Nash his teeth, saying, please put me in the game. Let me defend my own record. He at least believed in IT the democrats wouldn't defend their own record because IT was so bad. You have to put somebody for that, not just on camera, but on the entire party. That's my well.

only for sex. It's so obvious that the technique they use to defeat trump in twenty twenty, after those chaotic four years, was, hey, do you want Normalcy?

And the 5 votes.

what what's that I didn't here .

the the job I said what what tactic was and fifty thousand extra extra is and .

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What's the problem? The chart just just, you know the y acts starts at fifty million, so don't be, you know, like a little .

too crazy was stolen. The point i'm making here is obviously by the rand, a very successful campaign against trump s based on vibes and based on his creating chaos in the country and most people's mind in this return to Normalcy. So I did work for them previously.

IT just didn't work this time because they had to defend their record on the border. They needed to defend their record on the economy. And sex is exactly right. They didn't touch that.

And how do you not talk about their own record? And their record had some good great spots to IT, record low unemployment, record high stock market. And we tamed inflation.

And they could have had a really great discussion about inflation and just said he listened both of the last two terms. There was a lot of spending. And so inflation manifested during the last four years.

And hey, we tamed IT. So here we are. We still have record low unemployment, we still have a record high stock market, and we tamed inflation.

Things are going to get Better. But SHE could not even communicate that. I can communicate that Better than the presidential candidate. Come on, he could have easily done.

Baring need to go back to your point about the money, IT is true that the democrats had roughly three times as much money as the republicans did. The democrat had something like a million dollars this campaign. The republicans .

had three residents campaign .

for the presentation. Al campaign, exactly. The republicans obviously .

still won in alliance. So that excludes that excludes the superphosphate .

additional funding that we're going towards supporting on, I think, had a massive advantage on what you call the legacy media side. I mean, I don't know how you put a value, a dollar value, on what the legacy media has done, not just in this election cycle, but for the last later nine years. They have basic called on trump and not see a fascist, a trader.

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to get to that trader .

on their faces.

They call him an agent of putin. They call him a interaction is, they call him a convicted felon. They call him a dictator.

Theyve been yelling that at the top, the lungs. Now, for at least four years, the country didn't believe that. I would to say that the legacy media spell is broken. Their credibility has been destroyed. And I think that the reputation of the legacy media is one of the most important results of this election.

IT shows that the democrats had, I don't know how you valued a trillion dollar of propaganda machine on their side and trump was still able to win and you have to, at the end of the day, say that that's a result not just of alternative media gaining steam and free speech on acts. I think those were absolutely necessary enablers. It's also the fact that trump has a trillion dollar personality and is a tremendously gifted a communicator and politician in his own unique way.

But finally, you have to say that the issues are on trump side. Americans want the border to be seal. They see that the spending and the bureaux in washroom are out of control.

They do not want woke, cancel culture anymore. They see amErica getting over involved in foreign wars. They want to spending three brought back home where I benefits them.

These are the key points of the trumpet agenda. And at the end of the day, whatever you want to say about trump, he ran a campaign based on issues. He talked about issues, what a compeers run her campaign on vives, celebrity endorsements, name polling, debunk hopes.

I want to go around the horn little quake and ask each of you guys once again, and and ask you one more question after this. What mattered most was that the policy sex, as you're proclaiming, is what a lot of people voted on. Was IT the issues with the candidate, the individual? Or was that the media or the the campaign tactics? Are those three what mattered most, you think, in terms of moving votes?

What, mom, I don't think you can separate the man from the message or the messenger from the message. Listen, if you had a conventional republican out there, I don't think that they could have overcome the trillion dollar .

propaganda machine of .

the legal media. That being said, I think if dal trump had been campaigning with MIT romneys message or mitch mcconnell message, I don't think he would have gone anywhere. I don't even think he had been the republican. Ini, you have to say that trump, since two thousand and sixteen, has tapped into something very deep in the american and and you, this is something we can get into. But I think that if you look back now over the last ten years is clear that he's the transformational figure in american politics is not broken.

Commit with all. Turn the policies yeah the individual or the campaign .

active it's very clearly this had to do you know primarily with carmilla IT is the candidate and elected yeah I mean, obviously.

if you had something is interesting for you to .

say that is I have a public maybe a bit 4.

you voted them so you were open to that.

And i'm very clear about that. My record, it's been very clear about that. IT is clear that IT was hard because I will say if you had put up freeburg and I think it's great that you're forcing us to pick one of the three and it's a hard thing to do.

But if you had picked dean phillip PS in shape O, I think they would have be trump very easily. Or please remember trump's phenomenally unpopular. And I think the big question that's gonna come out of this is how did you on do getting Young men and how did joe rogan and pocket like ours do at getting Young men to come out of vote? That's that we haven't talked about yet. And I feel like that could be the one thing that comes out of this election over the coming years that we look at, that i'll be the sustainable change is that Young men are now voting, and they want to vote for her, something very different than White women or old people.

And your mother, what is your read on what mattered most? Do you have one of those three? How would you wait most?

I think the policies of the democratic party are fundamentally broken. They've become the exact opposite of where they were even twenty years ago. So the democrats used to be the protector of free speech.

Now they are for censorship. The republicans are free speech. The democrats used to be all about anti war. Now they are more likely to get mango into all of these foreign mission ventures in partnership with the military industrial complex, where, as the republicans have been a bull, work to work.

and they embraced the chinese. Ultimate proof for that.

oh my gosh. I mean, that was the scarious and oddest turn of events. So I think that what happened is the policies they just lost their way. Now the question is, was that purpose full or was a by accident? And I think that belies the bigger question, which is just the people in charge of the democratic party.

I think the success point, do they even have a sense of that they have to change? Or are they just so now fundamentally out of touch and they just believe what they believe? So rocio sly, there's gonna have to go through maybe three or four, five more elections of just getting .

totally different in order to learn the OK wear mine with a hat and you off right now. My next, my next question back to you to math is i've got a lot of conversations in the last few days um with good friends with people and close with with family and so on.

Freeport, what do you think before you ask the next question?

I think policy matter but but here's the the stumbling block. If you talk to anyone that did not vote, that did not vote for trump and voted for calm a heras that is you know kind of reasonable people or what you know no, I don't want to kind of. Classify people but people that you would Normally have decent long form conversations with, and you start talking about specific policy issues with them.

The conversation keeps coming back to trump. The person. In my experience, people can't see past a person who has equal convicted felling as they claim, who is taking away women's right, who is a bully, who is mean. A lot of this is influences by his past behavior. And things he said in the way, is said things and done things.

On twitter, we can proclaim that there was a lot of this representation about trump in in the legacy media, but there were a lot of tweet that trump put out that were off putting to a lot of people. So I want you to want to speak to the many individuals out there who are good people, who feel this in franchise, who are not like the the funny people you can make fun of on lips of tiktok or what have you, but just everyday Normal people. That said, I really don't trust a guy.

I really don't believe that this is a good person. And I think that the policies make more sense. I agree with a lot of the policy issues, but Frankly, the guide doesn't seem like the right guy for me.

How do you kind of break through? Is that possible? And can you speak to that person to help them kind of see past the individual to the policies and have trust in faith that this individual can actually shepherd this nation forward?

There are so many very powerful examples of how the media colluded with the democratic party to fundamentally lie about things that actually happened. When IT relates to Donald trump, one of the most simple and powerful was the lie about Charles film. When I process Charlotte fill, i'm probably one of those people, David, that you talk about.

I was just so scared and angry, and I took a face value what the media said, that Donald probe said, and then I was really angry at Donald trump until I saw the footage and saw that he was just a complete lie. And that is just an incredible shirking of responsibility that the media has undertaken. The deviousness, the dishonesty is really bad.

And that's where I said, I have to stop as a grown up, rational man, as the head of my family. I need to read right where i'm coming from. Well, had of my family with that when he likes. Maybe.

but I feel I .

can feel her. I think.

We keep that line in. I am the head of my family. okay? Anyways, good, so .

get.

But but the thing is like I started to be enter, right, and I do that every day in my daytime. B i'm running a company. Is eighty ninety going well or not? Well, IT depends on the conditions on the ground.

When things are going well, I need to do more of those things. When things are not going well, I need to read the right. Is IT something that i'm in control of? Is that something that i've missed? How do I change IT? How do I get my team to be Better? I live in everyday in investing is the same thing.

You know, there was a period where I was on top of the world and everything was working. Then there were waves where things were not working, but I still had to show up and do my job well as it's turning out in those darkest hours was when I probably have made some of my absolute best new investments. That would not have happened if I did not keep my feet on the ground and constantly we and try to chAllenge my biases.

There are so many examples that have happened to trump that when you actually unpack them, there is a concerted effort to ly, and that is why it's important for folks to be able to suspend that judgment. The second thing I would say is then you saw four years of the men in office. And if you actually separate the interpretation by the media, who Frankly just hate him with what he actually did, you take a step back in your element.

These accomplishments were incredible. For example, let's look at what happened with the April ham acts. We have never been closer to substantial and sustained peace in the middle ast in any era of government, under any president.

Then we were when jared Christia, on behalf of Donald trump, negotiated those agreements. And look how far we've slip since then. And all of that happened as a result of the incoming government wanting to undo what was so logically right in the first place.

And part of that was to feed the media cycle. So again, I just go back to David. All of these Normal people, and I know a .

lot of them as well.

you guys need to take a step back and take a beat and just think about something for a second. How do so many Normal, high functioning, well intended people switch sides? How did that happen now?

J. K, L, let me ask you the flip side of the coin. You have expressed publicly recently, even on a podcast yesterday, with sex in vigorous ous debate on the show many times, reservations about prompt and the character of prom yeah, how do you feel you obviously a line with the policies that he is highlighted, indicated. Do you see past the person? Or do you still have A A strong degree of reservation about the and you see that playing out in your cohort, friends, family, what have you that there is strong reservation because of the character?

And it's a great question. You know, I think the thing we have to do now is come together as a country. He's the president. It's great that IT was not a debatable election and we're not going to have riots at the capital and people beating up police officers. And now it's time to actually look at what trump said and then we will greet him on what he actually gets done.

And and you know, if he is able to hang out with the coward of iron and chmagh and sex and j events, I feel a lot Better about IT. Now there's a lot of people speculating. He will turn on cha maths.

He will turn on sex, he will turn on elon, and that relationship will end in the next year or two. That's what i'm looking at. Will trump actually do the things he says he's gonna.

And what did he say he was gna do well. He's not going to have A A national man. He's not going to have kick people out who get college degrees here.

Remember he said on the show is in a state of the Greening heart to IT. And but then there's other any study is going to end the ukraine, the war in ukraine on day one. So let's make a list of all the things he promised. And like anybody else, let's judge him based on what he gets done.

Now some of the things he promised, like the mass y portion of fifteen million people, I think a lot of people, even on this podcast, probably don't agree with I don't think anybody here wants to see fifteen million people who came here to have a Better life and who are working hard and who are productive members of our society, literally get dragged out of here. The five hundred thousand criminals or million, sure, nobody wants to see them get a free pass here, but you know, there is going to be some of the items on his agenda that are going to be very uncomfortable to see executed. And some of them would be amazing and miracles if he comes in and of ukraine.

War is settled. fantastic. If you start tagging a million people every, you know, two or three months out of the country, that could be absolutely disastrous and and incredibly hard to watch happen in america.

So we got to judgment based on his actions. Let's give him the support he needs. And I really hope, you know, the thing that gives me hope is the fact that sax chaff you on and j events are by his side.

So i'm going to move on to the rest of the election, the other races. So so the president t we've talked about, let's talk about the house in the senate seats in the house, there are thirty seven races that have yet to be called, but IT looks like the republicans need about twelve more to be called to have a majority. IT seems very likely, I mean, calling cording to polar market, ninety nine percent.

The republicans will have the majority in the house. The republicans have control of the senate, and trump is in the White house. What are the top policy items that the republicans will pursue with this degree of legislative and executive control? What's number one, two, three on the list? What's top priority and how are they kind of getting together to figure out what and how to execute those items in in the in the weeks and months after january twenty?

Well, so first of all, I think the senate majority matters lot in terms of trumping the appointment city wants because if he was just at fifty one, let's call IT IT would be quite hard. Susan Collins and least mark sky tend to be very, very moderate republicans and would oppose, I think, a lot of conservative appointments terms ready at fifty three senators. There's two more that are still up for grabs and when to be counted.

So you might get to fifty four in the next week or so IT just means he's kind of a fear range on appointment. I think that i'll be really good for for Bobby Kennedy. I think IT might be harder to get Bobby kenney confirm for a major cabinet post with fifty one, with fifty three, fifty four.

I think we get there. I think that's a really great thing for the country. There's other appointments in a similar vein that I think would be easier for, for trumpy get through in terms of the rest the agenda.

I mean, term clearly does want to end the war. Ukraine easy and able to do IT on day one. No, I mean, I don't think that's realistic because Frankly, the ukrainians are not willing to make the concessions, cy, that they're not in a place where they are willing to make a deal.

I still think that what trump enter in the campaign, if you look at his expression of his motivations and where his sentiments are coming from, they were good sentiments. But if you can't solve IT on day one because ukrainians don't want to make a so I can't really felt him for that. But I think they'll try I think that on doge, there's clearly a strong desire of many in the republican party and elon and the people that elon brought with him for major government reform, much more efficiency, much less spending. I think that we have to get as much that past as possible in the first certain in the first year.

There is a necessity for legislate of action to get all the cuts in a federal spending that they're looking to cut. Is that right? thanks. So if you on objective is cutting.

there might be some things you can just do through executive orders when they should do as much as they can. But I think you do need some congressional action as well. This is an area where this can be really hard because spending as a by parsing problem and it's gonna a, be really hard to jump through the type of.

Reform that we really should have at the federal level. But I think that now there's a shot because trumpet does have majority ties in the house and senate that he can at least get something through. So at least we have a shot at getting something done there.

Are we going to get two trillion and cuts by elon once? I would love that. I doubt you're going going to pass that through congress. But do you start with that number and then work your way down to a number that you can get both parties to support? Maybe that's possible.

Hopefully I would have have started with three then that's just my, just my whatever.

But I think reforming the bureaucracy is to such a huge theme coming out of this election, and we just have to figure out how to get that done.

And we have the .

Mandate that true man date and the the federal .

government is such a large spring and has be the largest organization on earth, except for maybe the C C. P. And in that sense, you really have to have leverage in leadership to be able to realize that the grieve action at that scale. So the cabinet positions matter a lot to realize that agenda. That is that fair to say, tim off.

And you know maybe we can talk a little bit about who are the the folks in the orbit of Donald trump and the transition team that are being considered for different cabinet posts and you know as an advisor is that let's call you a theoretical adviser, uh, to the transition team. What are the kind of key posts that matter to you? How would you kind of advise them who to look for that could really realize the autumn that the Mandate is dictating?

Well, I I have no influence on this process, so i'm just totally spit balling. But right, people who I think, who I think our excEllent, i'm going to put Bobby Kennedy right at the top of the list. I think that Bobby has an opportunity to allow the transparently of information that will allow folks to keep doing what we've done or to change course in a way that right now, I think, is a little bit more difficult than IT needs to be.

I think the vacuum swam is india tikal. I think he's A. You know, if you remember back to the republican primaries, there is only one person that did not attack Donald trap and he was very vick.

I think he um believed in what Donald trump's doing and was willing to sort of embrace and extend this idea. So I think he would be a really good proxy. I don't know what role that looks like, but I just think that he would be be amazing.

There are some rumors that he's going to run for governor for ohio, but he had be amazing the federal government, to sick abbott.

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there's another race that's going on that's really below the surface but is extremely important. And that is the new set of majority leader. mr. Marco says he stepping inside.

There's two major cans. yes.

Well, it's Johnson versus corny from texas and mike lee has been sort of agitating. It's not clear that Michael lee will throw his hat in the ring. If he did, I would be all in favor of IT.

If mikey, who is from you taught doesn't we should really go whatever he recommends. I really trust that mike lei will represent the maga agenda, whereas, quite Frankly, the other candidates will be a continuation of match. And this is trump's moment to wait in on that.

He's basking in the glow right now. He is in the winners circle. He can get anything through the republican caucus.

And I think that he could wait in right now in the center of majority race and make sure the right person gets IT. If you get a continuation of each marko, you will not get real reform through the senate. Look at what happened during trump, one which mccane was want to trumps biggest opponents.

So there would be alternative, but I think trump would have to step in. And at there's some talk about ricksdag from florida being candidate. I think you'd be very good if you still in the race or just go right over the top and go with a mike. We this is your moment to basically put in a loyalist .

and then the big cabinet ET positions that are left. I think defense is probably somebody like Richard now who's already work for tramping. Was the D.

N. I right at the end, I think. And then in treasury is, you know I think people say it's between Scott and john pawson. I'm not too sure. I don't know that governor think it's like probably has school.

But then you know I saw like having this morning said he would not step decide if asked to resign by he got .

two more years.

So I until twenty six, he's got till mid twenty six. So I mean.

the room, I don't want to say too much. I think this is pretty out there. I think we're now one state, not defense. I think that such a say is going to get that, I don't know, but that's been out there for a long time.

I think that what a lot of people in, let's call the magamed amErica first movement I can be looking at very closely is, do neocons warm their way into this administration? Look at what happened during trump. One he ran in opposition to forever wars, I think was a major part of his appeal.

It's what allowed him to shatter the bush dyna sty. It's what I think really hurt calmo in terms of having the chinese embraced her her. So it's a major part of his, i'd say, not just appeal, but also his legacy that he will not continue forever worse.

But the problem is that the blob keeps infiltrating a trip administrator. They did. They infiltrated from one by putting in john bolton and aspar and all these guys who, Frankly, betrayed from total. So I think a lot of you are looking closely at world neo confide to warm their wave into this administration. And if they do, it's a very IT would be very, very sad.

I think the difference this time around, which is so incredible, is that year now seeing on x people asking all the neocons to be named and shamed and they're creating these lists of that they can't warm their way and it's the most incredible thing i've ever seen. Where have you espouse those views in the past? If so, the likelihood that somebody would raise ed an alarm bell now on the so that you can get near the administration. I've never seen anything like that before, actually.

Yeah and you know what? Here's the great danger is you look at the last few months, okay, who was there for trump? T there was people like ilan IT was basically, you know, all of us who worked.

And look, i'm a very minor, minor figure, but I did my little park and there were a lot of other people on the ground doing their thing. But whether you want today, you want how to fly home for a test aboard me, he's got real companies to run. And who officers shows up a moral go? The swarm creatures, they were nerds dly.

Found the last three months. Now the swarm creatures come crawling out, and there would be swarming morale guo and trying to warm their way. The administration and that's that's the the issue is we ve got to keep know this is I hope that all the the magi influencers stay frosty and stay involved.

We have to consolidate this Victory and get reform tight. People in the administration, not just the usual type people from wasn't ton would you serve if asked? No, I i've ready said before the key and a craft, I can do that. But look, I would do something part time, meaning if I wasn't a full time job, if I didn't have to leave my current job, if he was serving on some advisory committee or something that that was compatible .

with my current job, I would do that. That's a no, absolutely, and not for time because i'm running the company. But you if there is the opportunity to help.

basically just put me on the dogs, even sacks, if you would mind. I just want to go like line them by line item in one afternoon. And i'm out there. You want to .

say this today, but he said the eighteen are running companies. We're all were all running companies. But if asked to serve, especially in a part time capacity where you don't have to diva's everything you own and you can actually just go and cobles can actually just make sure good decisions get made, I would be an honor to serve in that capacity. I think everybody should have given a chance. I want to say one thing just to build on yeah.

And then I want to ask you one more question to much.

I do want to give a shout out, elon. And in one very specific way, you know you've heard all these stories where he gets obsessed about something, and then he focuses on IT at the sake of everything else, and strips IT down and gets to first principles, rebuilds back up and IT works. And as far as I can tell, basically, when he decided that this election was going to calm down to pensylvania on one hand and Young men on the other.

He just kept doing that one thing over and over and over again. Every time you turned on x, he was doing a rally, he was speaking to the residence of pennsylvania. And two weeks Young is effected voters and getting them out. And then his pack built an infrastructure that rivals the democratic infrastructure in terms of get out the vote and with a lot less money and only in a month or two is is incredible.

Well, and then the switch shack was controversial because if you think that was the media trying .

to make an issue, that was nothing. Burger a burger, yeah. And so, you know, I think he was dismissed on its face, because if any person spent eight seconds understanding the law, the judge dismissed IT within an hour. So.

you know, if we look at that million dollar or sweep stakes to sign up for his pack, if you think about how people Normally uh, get people to sign up, they're paying a dollar or click, probably fifty dollars a click, whatever IT is using, giving money to A, B, C, or giving money to facebook. And you just say, i'll just do a sweep stake sign up for this and then I have you in the database and then I can market IT to you.

There's no difference between giving away a million dollars sweet p stakes or buying a bunch of ads and paying by click and for everybody to frame that as he's buying votes. When I was so clear he wasn't I think that's the kind of media manipulation people are getting savy to and does not work anymore. IT was very clear. He was just a sweet stakes to sign up for his pack, no looking ten dollars a collect to facebook.

When the legal infrastructure amErica dismisses the case on its face within sixty minutes of IT being heard, that means IT is a force.

Yeah I mean, look, I think what elon showed is that a smart person can come in who who basically, like you said, can go into demo mode, which has a start up or innovation mentality, is willing to spend money, but wants to do IT smartly, but is really hard core, can come in and beat the suppose the professionals their own game. I think one of the big stories has gna come out.

There's ready some tea bing spilt within democratic circles about genome. Ali Dylan, who was the campaign manager that family hero inherited from bidin SHE, had a billion dollars to buy the campaign still ended twenty million dollars in debt, indeed. And this, at least, has been where the money so well.

I say the money went to expensive consultants. They did overly elaborate stage events. They did these like fake concerts. Celebrity can be a, supposedly, they paid beyond six .

ten million .

dollars. And they even get a song out of IT and that IT sounds that sounds suspect. But the point is they spend aid a lot of money on the consultants. And you know the events in elon when after the omission, you know, that's like a lot smarter.

The person on the democratic side, where I feel the most disappointing after all of this is barack obama. I think he, in the period when he was elected to me, was just transcended. And I thought that this is a person that really was immune to getting a simulated into the book.

And I don't know why I thought that, but I did think that. And I was just so sad to see the tone and the rhetoric c from barack obama during this last home stretch, but I think was reputation's very damaging to him. And I think .

that offended you.

IT was less about A, I didn't offend me. He was just opt observing or disappoint when the rhetorical c was, you know, trying to propagate these lies. The verifying people hold all of these things.

I just thought he's so much smarter. The abortion that, the abortion that he knows that these things are not true. Why is he's saying objective lies? I don't really judge politicians for doing IT in general, but I never considered him a politician. I sort of considered him here just like this extra on above. And I and I was I was really disappointed that he chose to go on that path.

Yeah, why I could definitely add to that. I mean, look, I think obama's hole mistake was that he transgender politics, and he tried to maintain that position of being above the fray and let the gravy business policy be beneath them. And even during the whole coup against spider, I mean, they say that obama signed off.

He was basically in favor of the switcher room to hear us, but he was the last person to endorse the right. He did not want to be seen as doing the dirty work that was left to nasty policy. But there's no question that the switch rule, I think, was was backed by obama.

And then he did everything. He put a proper herricks, including using the very fine people hooks told these lives. And I I agree, math, I think that he has diminished himself. He's brought himself now down to the .

level of the level of a average politics, right?

I think probably you're disappointed because you had such a high benchmark for him, but we were just talking about trump saying he would end the war on day one. He said that he's going to support fifteen million people. And you know, all these politicians lie.

So I think my closing statement on all of this is you were a key part in putting trump in, obviously. And if he starts behaving in the way he behaved during his first term, the darker things he did, I hope that you will call him on IT and publicly call him on IT, and that he will steer towards, you know, his Better Angels. And that's my hope for america, and I hope for all of you who helped put him in office and played a very significant role in getting in here. When he does something crazy, if he does try to drag fifteen million people of the country, is that okay with you? sex?

Well, you said that he would start with a million people, five hundred thousand and million, who are clear criminals.

He should do that does yes.

jd said that the way you did, he said that the way that you do deportations is the same way you eat an elephant. You do a one time eat a sandwich. So the way you need an elephant, you do one by at a time.

Let's start with the biggest criminals, the biggest people polo shoulder here. And then let's see what happens after that. And look.

if you here million, what would you would you be in support of that? You haven't gotten there yet.

The point, if you take the first by the same, they talk about the second bite. But there was a line from the two thousand and sixteen election about trump that I think was a treated Peter tea, which is very important, which is that trump should be taken seriously, but not literally sometimes when he expresses a policy or a point of view, he sells IT.

So when he says, i'm going to end the ukraine war on day one, does that mean he's little going to do IT on day one? No, what he means is he's going to try really hard to end ukraine war if he does in in on day three, sixty five of his presentation y instead of day one and not going to come out to like to do what he said. No, i'm going to say he got the job done.

He did what he started, was going to do. So I think it's very important to judge him in that way when he says, i'm the point, fifty million people do. I expect him to do.

Fifty million not necessary. But if he closes the border, builds the wall, seals IT, so is no longer problem. And deports five hundred or thousand to a million hard core criminals out of this country.

I'm going to say that was a massive success. And you know it's going to happen. The legislation and said why he lie because he didn't deport the other fourteen point two million. Come on, I just just the different pain and governing.

I agree with all that. And I do think if he does try to do the million, and that's the thing I have concerns about, you got IT. Okay, freedom.

So let's take about the cabinet positions to mah. A guy like R, F, K. Junior has never held an executive position before you and others on this panel.

Sax, J K, L. myself. We've all kind of managed large groups of people. We've all been in positions of being A C, E, O of a business. You talk a lot about bringing in the outsiders and the trump campaign. Ks, a lot about bringing in the outsider sacks, begrudging highlights, the swarm creatures emerging to ask for those slot in those positions because they are lifelong politicians and bureaucrats.

How do we have trust in fate? Or do you think that the whole point is that you have folks that don't have the experience to run these organizations, that don't have the insights on who actually works there on how they Operate? And then coming in is going to provide enough of a fresh perspective and things up enough that that's exactly the point. And like talk a little bit about bringing in outsiders, but outsiders that can be effective in transforming these government agencies, not just blowing up up. Or is the goal to blowing up?

No, again, I would. I would just temper and turn down that retard c tech. Not nobody's blowing up anything, but I think step one is going to be a level of transparency so that doing the obvious becomes obvious.

And I think that if you look back over forty or fifty years, what has happened is that secretary reason political pointings have gone from get the best person in the job because they know IT to hear political payola, if you will. And I think the pendulum has swung too far an extreme. That's why the song people are able to maintain control, because the person above them who's appointed doesn't fundamentally know the inner workings of the organization.

I suspect what you're going to see is a radical push to transparency. And I think that when you combine transparency in sex, called for this a version of the twitter files for the government, I do think you're going to see that. But if you combine that pushed to transparency with a handful of topics, you know, by the way, we introduced a long time ago this idea of zero base budgeting into the lex economy language of these political candidates that they use all the way through to the finish line, I do believe the republicans, honestly, minute.

And so I think when you put these two things together freeburg, I think what you will have is all of this late bear. And then I think it'll started debate on what to do. And I think the decisions about what to do will be so blindness obvious. The low hanging fruit will save this country once we pluck.

Can I say, what about, I think, is so important for bobbi Kennedy be confirmed in whatever cabinet a position that he's gona get? Number one, you we look back the campaign now and that seems obvious that trump s is gonna in IT. But at the time that Bobby canny came on board, that was a major factor in shifting momentum towards trump.

So does number one. Number two, we need to keep bobbi canned coalition as part of our movement. It's not just about what he did in the last election is keeping all of those people, those Young people in those former democrats on side and part of the republican party in the making of a number three, he's genuinely going to reform that huge part of the bureaucracy, and that's extremely important.

We need outsiders to come in and shake things up. He's right about the regulatory capture. He's right about the marriage of state power and corporate greed. Let's have someone go in there who's got fresh eyes, but also understands all the dioxin works because he litigated and shake things up.

If you look at what Bobby posted to instagram neck, I don't know if you can find IT, but I was pretty telling on this dimension of the first inning is going to be about absolute radical transparency and sharing with the american people. Everything that's been that's been under the covers, by the way, it's not just on that dimension, right? We're going to see the este files.

We're going to see the daily lists. We're going to see the J, F, K. file. I know that these things are sort of fringe conspiracy theory typed things for some people, but the point is, from pillar to post, that first phase of this radical truth seeking transparency is an incredible disinfection that you can build from.

And he told the F, T, I think something to the effective, pack your bags and keep your records. Now let's let's take the hyper ball part of IT out. But it's to keep your records part that should be valuable because we deserve to have answers.

Now, when you think at the same time that you have inventions like A I that can crunch every single piece of data under the sun and tell you the absolute truth, imagine when you put transparency and the government sharing incredible amount of information with the computer power that the google s in, the facebook and me and the opening eyes of the world are creating, you'll know these answers to all of these questions. Vaccine, are they good or bad? when?

How florida is a good or bad? when? How all of these drugs that have been approved? Why all of these drugs that have not been approved, why you're gonna start to see some really interesting things.

Has there been research on the impacts of food on physiology where they suppressed? Were they not suppressed? So I think face one is get IT all out into the open totally.

And and what I, what I said this what what your math refer to as, yeah I said we should do twitter files for the whole federal government is what i've meant by that is remember before elon bought witter, they told us for years that the idea that twitter was shadowing conservatives and engaging in censorship was a conspiracy theory. Then elon open up the twitter files and we saw that IT was all true.

And moreover, that the government was engaged in censorship. They have been working hand in love with the trust and safety. depart.

The bi had logging, you just go .

in themselves. yes. F I had their own tool called teleport, which would allow them to transmit secret instructions to the trust and safety teammate twitter.

And they were censoring based on those instructions. That's completely unacceptable. Put, mentioned, lied about IT.

The government lied about IT. We only found out through the twitter files. Let's do a twitter files for the federal government.

What do you think we're going to find out? What do you think we have to find out about coffee? What do you think really happened there? If Bobby can, you can do that.

The lies they told us in complete ness of the actual clinical validation studies, the authorization and the wavers that were secured. How good or how britain or how fragile was that data? By the way, I think what we what it'll also do freeburg is if if IT looks like this data is actually of extreme high quality, you know what that does IT reestablishes trust that institution, which is also a win. So this whole thing is a win, win.

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let's not .

forget the way later they were literally being taught how to around, around fouche, how to route around seas and people looking for information. I mean, there's a lock to uncover here. I'm one hundred percent here for IT.

So clear is a law in the united states called the free of thing formation act. The foia, uh, is kind of A A common term. And IT gives the power and authority to individual citizens and third party agencies to have a check and baLance on the federal government that they can go in. They can request actual data, actual file, and IT is all necessarily available to the public at any time, except for classified information. Okay, the central government .

now over classifies everything. We have something like that, like a billion classified documents. They literally clarify everything.

So through the former process, third party lawyers and non profits have made requests to federal agencies to get access to the sort of information. And i've done IT.

I don't know if you guys have ever used for powers for information from the federal government to do foe requests ten years ago to get weather data or fifteen years ago, for my start, cut climate IT was the only way we were able to get access to a bunch of other day that was through foil request. And then we're able to use the that data in our services because this is public data, the taxpayers paying forward. So we had a right to IT.

Similarly, you can make for a request of emails and uh interagency communications and so on. But fact, I think that seems and jack elt, your point about the foil lady, there may over time have been some degree of corruption of the foil process in all of these agencies, which has made IT more difficult for individuals and third parties to have the appropriate checks and baLances on the data in these agencies because of the way they have kind of office gated access. Slow down the process. Sometimes he takes months for them to respond you. And it's become quite difficult til the four of the intention of the freedom of information act may have been to by by the ocracoke will not .

be for they make one other suggestion is we need a massive d clastic. Effort of the federal government. Maybe this is the way to actually implement the twitter files strategy. Is the problem is we have a massive over classification problem. Billions of documents were classified, the ferro government.

why? Because as bureaucracies know that they can kind of do IT over they want and kind of work in peace without having to disclose what they're really doing as they is mark classified on a document, someone needs to go through that and start massively declassifying. If they do that, then there will be a lot more documents available to for your request so that right there will be a huge hop. And then like you said, the former process could be tighten up IT could be a lot faster, could be a lot easier. And they should not be able to circumstances doing the kind of stuff that jake aw referred to during covet where they were like deliberately misspelling words .

so that they went how to speak in order to avoid this. And they were also told a bunch of people who are in three letter agencies just bite, default, put this at the highest level of security, not to be declassified, declassified. So they unnecessarily put everything in classified.

And so now every project .

for every email is marked at the highest level of classification, which means there's no discerning IT. And if you were to blame an FBI agent, if they told you, hey, just put everything on classified so IT doesn't get out. okay.

That seems like a pretty good way to cover U. S. And that's got a change. Yeah.

well, a lot, a lot to to come in the weeks ahead. I'm sure we will do more updates as the cabinet .

oppositions and of science. I know you differences with R, F, K.

Do you? I, I very d ation about R, F, K. Having oversight. I think the authority might be limited with respect the legislate of authority that vested by the congress, which is the the one piece I I look, I mean, as you guys know, there's a lot that R, F, K brings up that I very, that resonates with me.

I I am not a black and White guy, so there are things that he says that make a lot of sense. There are things i've pointed out, particularly around microplate tics in the environment, particularly around chemistry that we use in our food and our systems of food and production. And I believe very strongly that we have real issues that have you know, compounding effect on our health.

So let me not be too flippin about that. I am not a all vaccines are always good all the time person. I think that every one of them needs to be studied on the merits and the risks.

I think florida is an interesting conversation to have. What are the merits? What are the risks? And wise IT a federal a wise their federal authority. Flowing water, which by the way, there isn't. It's it's all local specialities and on on wind up free burk net net where you wind up. I will say that there are a number of things that R, F, K, have said that that caused me a lot of trouble that that i'm very troubled by because I think that he has said things that are factually wrong, and I want him to be open to debate and open to review of objective truth.

And that's IT, and that's IT. And I do you like him as a disinfectant, as a rebel rouser, as to shake up the system or net, net. Do you think it's too risky? The let in generally, I think all these system should be jailed a hundred percent.

You do you say you want him to be open to debate? I I person, a candidate for office, has been more open to discourse, debate interviews than .

Bobby Kennedy done.

Everything has been on the show to the debt. Transport is a bureaucracy. That's the problem.

If you want government reform, you have to get into the bureaucracy. You need outsiders to come in. You can make a transparent. You got classify.

That's regard to do one of most important aspects of science, not the the recently legacy media or jokingly definition of code science, but science is meant to be a process of skeletons, ism, interrogation and the search for objective truth, which means that you should be constantly questioning whether you are right or wrong. And I do think that that is a necessary part of the process of science. Science is not meant to be a dictatorial regime.

And so I think that resetting the framework for how we Operate, some of the agencies and authorities that are supposed to be rooted in science, to have the necessary process of skepticism. Review and transparency into that I think will revert faith and rea surge trust by the public and how these agencies are Operating. And I hope that, that happens. I really do because I do think there are very good people in all these agencies who do very good work, and there is a lot of very important advances that have come out of the united states of amErica and have gone through processes, through the federal government that have actually done really great things for americans and for humanity. And so I don't want us to dismiss things as being wms called bureaucracies that that don't have any routing in science, but I do think that it's important to have this degree, scepticism and process and have transparency.

So that's all. Well, i'd like you to show me in the constitution where the bureaucracy or the administrative state is a branch of the government, I see in the constitution that we are going to be ruled by an executive branch, a legislator branch and a judicial and on I do not seen administrative branch that has rung into into existence over the last several decades. Yes, and IT rules us.

There is roughly three million people who work for the federal government. Of those, the president basically appoints three thousand, and IT takes river to get them through. yeah.

So we have roughly three million people who don't report anyone. Nominally, there's most of report to the executive branch, but the president can't fire him. We talked about on the previous show, if you wanted, gone into a twitter, and he had been a lot of fire.

Anyone do you think he could have restored free speech at twitter? Of course not. They just want to kept doing whatever they wanted to do.

And that is a big problem. The federal government right now is we are ruled by a fourth branch of government that is not in the constitution, that does the report. Anybody IT is not subject to elections.

We can't vote them out and we can't fire them. And they have been in the forefront of trying to stop trump and the larger reform movement that he represents ever since truck got elected two thousand sixteen. Remember, IT was members.

The administrative states, specifically the security status, said, don't worry, we're going to be the insurance policy against trump and we've done everything possible through the rush gate hooks to welfare through yeah the whole steel docia hooks to basically try and stop trump and the reform movement that he represents. And the big question of trump s second term will be weather. He can finally subdue the bureaucracy and bring IT under democratic control, under the control of the executive branch, as american people want. And as I think the constitution intended right now, we are run by an unelected branch of government that has to stop. And what trump represents is not dictatorship, but democracy, the triumph of democracy over the bureaucracy.

And and a big, a big important moment for for this movement, this return to the fundamentals of what was vested in the constitution, is the chavez n doctor in case of the supreme court earlier this year. IT reverse the authority for agencies to create their own rules and regulations that they can then enforce on private enterprise.

And if that case Carries through and is allowed to be used to support the efforts to deregulate or to d agency, what you call kind of the bureaucracy, I think IT enables a lot of the change that that folks are looking for. Why should, for example, some commission be sprung out of you, some assembly being created, and then the commission gets to create their own rules and their own regulations that effectively a law that prevent private citizens, enterprises from being able to Operate and make decisions. And I think that was a very important moment for this movement was the the supreme court case on the coverers doctoring also say I don't agree with me on the side.

but IT seems like it's I think was an absolute precursor, which is IT was insane. I mean, again, you had a screen court ruling that effectively made the administration of state the highly on the land even though there's no constitutional basis for IT. So yeah repealing shovel was definitely half of IT and I think the other half IT is gonna be while .

makers have to pass laws, you can't have individual commissions pass laws.

That's that's the whole point. We need bills pass by the republican congress at trump's sign. But we also need, I think, cabinet level appointments who will start to due the bureaucracy, bring them under control, find out what they are doing, just give us to inspired cy around what they're doing, twitter file these things, so then we can reform IT.

I think that we're going to look back on this era, and I think it's going to last about twenty years or so at least, which I call a return to originalism. We are returning to the founding principles of this start up called america. And I think it's incredible.

I think sex is right. There is this unbelievable living document that created this incredible experiment we feared way far away from me. It's taken us a lot of courage to get back to that place.

For now, you can actually let that guiding document govern a highly mirror craic country. So it's gonna lot of hard work. But my gosh, it's just an incredible moment, an opportunity. Everybody should just take a breath and remember them.

I just like to do a quick survey of some of the local and state elections and and get some reactions. I was gonna try to talk little bit about what's going on and see differences go in california. I'll just on IT our friend, my friend Daniel Lorry was IT looks like he's going to be the mayor of san Francisco, beating out the incumbent mayor, london breed.

Danel ran on a moderate platform and has an intention of fixing a lot of the Operations and inefficiencies in the san Francesco government, which has seen a ballooning and budget inference. Csco has the hidest budget per capital of any city in the united states, I think fifty percent higher than new york with a lower functioning kind of set of municipal ices. And there's a lot of opportunity for improvement there.

This is the first time, really important, that first time in an outsider has been elected mayor in ancient cisco since nineteen eleven. Every mayor elected since one thousand nine, eleven and seven, Francisco was an existing government employee or government a civil servant. So just like what we saw, the federal elections, we are seeing an outsider being placed mayoral office.

And I wished I watch, I wish ed luri a Hardy. congratulations. Neck, can you show the tweet?

The city has become a dangerous dirty duster fire for bad ideas from lips, I hope you do the obvious and beyond side of cop just to clean streets and methodical, racy that your message to the incoming pair.

Yeah, I mean, he is has been a major proponent.

You're going to run from here. One once take out.

I was lobbied, I was approached and I was given a lot of support, seven figures of support to go do IT. It's a very hard job because the supervisors, uh, actually run the city and a lot of the supervisors, uh, like they .

got booted .

to know they got put the impressed .

got bit dee.

So the board of supervisors has also shifted moderate. The mayor is now going to be a moderate outsider, and there's a real opportunity to rebuild in reform. Sanford cisco, it's a place that i've called home for twenty five years. It's a place where I Operate our business. And IT feels like a lot of the .

citizens of what has I don't do. I know there are. I still live there. And I do think that there was a big election term.

S of improving things and server discuss to grasp danuta in front of mine as well. Go down to L A. Another big race we booted.

Gas gone. Who was the sorry da who room server? S go. And the filled his way up to L. A was ruining L, A, A Nathan hawk man whose, you know, moderate, beat him by seeing like twenty points.

And then like I mentioned, we got prop thirty six past in california by about seventy percent, which reverse in the excesses approved forty seven, which is the was the proposition a decade ago that was passed by then luti governor, governor and then attorney general. Carbon areas to a day fact of legal high shop lifting. So the people of california had enough of these policies that Frankly enabled crime, enable homelessness, enable drug use and they want a correction.

Look, even walks and blue state liberals don't want the cars broken into. I mean, it's really talking is really simple. And I mean.

the crazy thing in los Angel list with gascon was the a number of people who I know live there now know people in sentiment in blackwood, in belair, where we lived for so many years, sex have home invasions have started again. I mean, that is like a breaking the point is that .

while the people of california resident tingly began, over seventy percent supported proprieties six. There was one prominent figure who was opposed to IT, which was gather. So he said, went, he saw really polling.

I don't know what day i'm living in. So you will look, the state we're living in, Gavin, is the one that you created. You're the one who gave us these policies.

You're the one who gave us pop forty seven. You're the one who gave a zero bail. You're the one who allow the democratic party in california be taken over by stores.

Ds, you've never resisted these policies. Now you have a choice. You can see where the people are at. Over twenty percent of california wants to change, i'd say on the rest, the country of its seven percent, california, ninety percent of the united states must, you know, is opposed to the software on crime policies. If you ever have aspirations to be anything more than governor california, you Better get on the right side of this issue.

Cx, David, sex should be the governor.

Let's do IT I know I I .

am a hundred percent series is the fifth largest economy in the world. This is, this is, this is mark today as the day that I have decided that I am going to get design, but I am going to convince David .

to be the government or girl phone, I know I managed to.

I will say, um gna .

say that David acts .

will be an .

incredible governor.

That's me privately.

There's no rumor. I'm just telling you right now that within two years I will have convinced him to do IT. It'll be the perfect time.

Gather user has been terrible for the state. We have seen trillions of dollars of mark cap exit the state. In terms of corporations that have left.

We have gone from record surpluses to record deficits. We have an education system that is fAiling millions of kids. What is going on here? We have taxes that are through the roof.

And when you spend more and more and more to get less and less and less and IT takes more and more out of everybody's pocket. What is the answer? The answer is you have to fundamentally change everything that's happening from .

first principles. Well, I will say one more point um about I will call the baLance in the force. When A A party is captured and move to foreign direction, people leave the party and they vote for the other party.

And then in order to attract people back to the party, they tacked to the center. My big prediction over the next few years, as you will see, a more centers, democratic party as they try and and they try and a track there two, i'll take the other. So one.

one more topic before guys.

Before we wrap.

there is one other topic that came up in every conversation I had with everyone about trump that was a female, which was abortion, and IT was at, look, I don't a rehash again that I was misrepresented what transportation tion is. But abortion in has become a very sensitive topic. A woman's right to do what he wants to do with her body when he wants to do IT is something that that most women feel they are very deeply in doubt with.

And that should be an unalienable right, a particularly the united states of america, and that even sending this back of states and states voting on IT creates a significant emotional response that drives folks to one party of the other. In florida, voters rejected an abortion extension to twenty four weeks. Florida previously had a fifteen week abortion ban, but the current six week ban took effect in may.

So the amendment that was being proposed on the ballot this week, uh, would have a qualified abortion procedure res up to twenty four weeks in the state of constitution. But I needed sixty percent of the votes to pass, but IT only got fifty seven percent. So IT looks like a loss for a pro choice advocate, sex.

What is gna happen now that these abortion laws are being voted on? These amendments to state constitutions are being voted on how is this gonna reshape american politics and how are the parties gonna st. In the years ahead, given how important in how sensitive this this topic has has become after the decision of the supreme court recently.

Look, I think that what you're seeing in the last election that we just had is the beginning of the end of the saillant of this issue. I mean, abortion has been an issue that has deeply fragmented amErica for fifty years. I mean, the pro choice for pro life movements have been a staple of american politics, talking past each other.

They were never able to get any sort of compromise with the appeal of movie wade, with the dos decision. The issues now been throwing back to the states, and every state is working and off for themselves. And in most states, what's happening is it's either the pro choice totally wins or they compromise on some number of weeks.

I think that in florida, going for point for weeks might have been a little bit too many as they tried to go back to fifteen. You know they probably could have gone there that I could go on for fifty, seventy to sixty. But that's what the debates can be about now is just basically in red states that scheme agree about agreeing on a certain number weeks, blue states are pretty much gonna be pro choice.

And you can see that the federal level, no ones to touch the anymore. J. K, you raise the point during the election cycle, during the campaign, the jobs would be crushing for trump, and that women are going to turn out in droves for heroes on the basis this issue that simply did not happen.

If you look at voter turnout, trump increases share of the women's vote. He did lose college educated women. So that subset of called more progressive, yeah, sorry, college .

educated.

But if you look at women as a whole, he won more their vote. So how did trump inoculate himself on this issue? He made IT really clear.

He was not favor of a national ban. He said that he favoured the exceptions and that IT was now up to the states. He basically assured the country, the women of the country, that again, that abortion would not be banned. And that was now a local issue. And I think the voters of the country, including women.

accepted that. And IT is now a state issue. So so I think it's dari. Nava, tana o, arizona voted to qualify the right to abortion and remove abortion bans.

On the other hand, the brash voted for a ban on abortion after the first prime master and septa kota voted against a right to abortion. So salpa kota prohibits all abortions, except when necessary. Say you're .

going to you're even in deep rent states like ohio. The pro choice forces have won these ferenza is just a handful of cases like a very small number where the proof life have gotten their way. Again, I think we're at the tail end of this.

Being a sAiling is an american politics. I think trump has ended IT as a federal issue and is now going state by state. And in most of the states, the projects forces are winning.

I think this issue is over. I think it's over because republicans know not to touch this, jack. Oh.

you ve said it's it's one of the most important issues of the day. Several times in the past, he said women were going to vote in droves for commoner because of the perception that trump was trying to pass.

The federal question did clearly, but not enough to swing the election. And you know it's going to you think .

it's going to be to the question sacks, right? Is is gonna stop an issue and it's now qualified and state long or if I can be continue to be a change where women will not be able to get an abortion.

sadly, and they will not be able to make that decision for themselves. That's my personal ve. They should be able to make the decision for themselves.

I like to stay out of IT but sex is largely right that if you don't if i'm reading a correctly, think about IT. If you are state in, you ban abortion. Who's going to want to live there? You're going to have a lot of people living, and that's been an issue here in texas. A lot of companies are having a hard time with not only getting women to move here to work at specific companies in taxis, but men are a well or not are exciting IT as a concern. So it's going to make IT really untenderly for an economy .

you're saying, don't want to work for test their space sex because of abortions.

I have heard many stories about people not wanting to come work at companies in taxes because of this law. Yes, I have heard that from employers. I'm not talking about any of you once companies. I don't speak for him, obviously, but this has been an issue for companies in texas.

Okay, guys, this has been a fantastic follow up to this week's election. I know some people are bitterly disappointed, frustrated, angry and sad about the future of america, and others are to be optimistic and excited. And I think to be the day, it's gonna okay, it's and I really do hope that everyone can kind of have constructive conversations about the future we'd all like to build together do here.

And uh, I really appreciate the friendship with you guys. I want to say congratulations to sacks in chmagh for putting yourselves out there as early as you did in campaigning and promoting Donald trump. I think you guys had a very influential role in moving people for the effort, you mate, and the outcome. congratulations.

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