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2024/11/7
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Benjamin and Chance discuss the impressive handling of the recent election by Apple News, particularly the live activity feature that provided real-time updates.
  • Apple News featured a live activity that showed real-time election results before news networks.
  • The live activity was fast and visually appealing, fitting a lot of data into the interface.
  • Apple News gets a bad rep for ads, but for events like the election, it shines.

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So this has been election we care in the united states may I don't know if you've heard heard all of the news had happened.

I think I know is, you know, IT doesn't I say I sait possible by.

you know, you saw a couple days late courtesy of the threads algorithm.

I'm I did watch I did watch a decision through the percy news. I I got on a bit before I went to bed.

Well, obviously, anybody who knows me and follows me knows that I am not particularly happy or happy at all with the result of the election. But that's not what I wanted to talk about with you today.

Mao, I wanted to praise apple news and praise how apple news, like, handled and featured the election this week because I was so, so, so good that the live activity that you could opt into that showed in literally real time, like before the news networks will talk about one of the trumper, Harris, winning a stay in getting those electoral votes. You'd get the notification in the live activity first, stuck whatever data source apple news was using for that or doing their own data. Whatever was so fast and IT look good.

They looked great, looked great. yeah. And like on the lock screen, you would see trumping haris than also the senate and congress.

See the results for all four, all four sides of IT. Just the attention to detail in the amount of data that they fit in. The interface was so good.

And I think apple news gets like a bad rep for some reason and write fully. So for things like ads, the apple news ads are terrible, are like trump box ads. But for things like this having such a good news, APP built into every iphone like they, not that of the park.

Yeah the the news APP struggles when it's just in it's like algorithmic default layout, right? Well, yeah, I think people struggle. Find out, of course, that relevant to them a lot the time.

And so it's kind of like a luck of the drop y open and it's like relevant to you some of the categories and like hierarchy is hard to find, but they do have real people doing a lot editorial to create staff and things and things like the election. They have basic like hand made sections that appear at the top application. And there always really well done.

There wasn't a light activity for the U. K. Election this year, but they did have like all the information you like, click on IT. IT would show the updating numbers and stuff so they've obvious ly gon one step further now uh on I think you could get the live activity to uh which they didn't even promote right like now they did like a news room post, like get ready for the election away with apple news. And the live activity is just like the day off is like, well, now you can get V T V and .

you could go in and you could like schedule, like opt into IT and so ride at six o'clock when the first poll started closing and states around the U. S. Like right at six o'clock he was there and immediately started updating as the first states called the results.

And and watch her eleven IT IT would mirror to the smart stack on the watch. No, very nice a one.

the one small bright spot of the week, but a good bright spot. Now you tried the clean up feature in the photos APP right .

despite the bright White light possible when you're dragged on, when you're dragon your finger over something on that jesus um they obviously like obviously like a rainbow fact, but they hate your to the extreme. So this is obviously ate right now. Apple intelligence is U. S.

Explosive, right? U. S, english. I run on my devices in U. K. English and my phones and iphone fourteen Price haven't been able to use anyway. You, I did try my only apple, my only apple until the company with device will be my map of pro m one m one max.

But temporally, I don't think I should get access to features like clean up and to eighteen point two comes out correct? That seems to be official line, but for whatever reason, or is nineteen point one. And I haven't changed my region or language.

And the clean features are just there in the photos up. So I was messing about with out, oh, great. This is fun.

You know, uh, I tried a few different pictures. I think it's pretty good. I saw some people given that a pretty negative review. It's not lips and bounds ahead of what other raps have had for a time. But there is some nice details where they can do the automatic like subject selection for you in background elements. And you can just kind like roughly circle in an area and then I will use A I like refine the selection around that back grand and the in painting of the replacements. I think that was pretty good IT wasn't perfect but I was taking signs offences I was taking um you know details, background, people and places I was I was pretty happy with that is a bit and thing we go drug or drug done um I was reasonable impressed.

IT probably should have been in the system years ago, right? IT doesn't I don't think nessy needed to be attached to the appelle intelligence umbrella um even though there is some IT is slightly more intelligent than the old kind of like client stamp stuff uh but either way, I thought I was pretty happy with the as a Pearly thing that runs on device like you can get Better in painting if you rely on. I think photoshop has once been in where they go off to a server and they think your own server and the stuff, though those get back quite results, as you imagine, as a huge backend. But for a purely on device solution that I was pretty impressed with.

the photo clean up IT works well. My one to complain on the mac though is even on like I have an m three max mac book pro. So up until recently, like the fastest mac apple cells, IT is just a touch slower than the old like retouch tool that was in the photos APP because it's obviously at doing a Better job and it's doing more.

It's not just retouching your photo. It's changing IT. Sometimes i'll take like a product photo for a story or something and I have A A dog, she's a black lab, sheets, a lot of hair, so i'll take the product photo and then i'll have to zoom in in the photos APP like find a piece of hair in the corner or something that escaped my cleaning.

And with the old retouch tool in the photos APP, I just mouse over and IT was gone and certainly clean up. Does just as good of job, probably slightly Better job at that. It's just slower. And if i'm doing at multiple times on an image like IT does slow things down a little bit .

yeah because I think like every time you click and let go, it's first doing like object detection in the area before actually doesn't removal. So I think that's part of the leg. So let you touch and it's then analyzing, then he removed if you know. I mean, I don't think IT was super slow, but I know is definite slower than the yeah they order thing but I think the result is is a bad so as to try to I .

kind of almost wish ed there was like the old option was still there for things I am talking about .

yeah I really clock they've got red of IT because I if i'm doing IT is like that Normally do the thing where you like, right? Like can you do edit with and then you can pick an external application yeah I don't reuse the apple one, if too often. First, if i'm doing retouching stuff well, I might do IT more often now because, uh, the clean thing prety good. Uh, but I I like you said you, I until you said that I realized that I should taken out the old really option and completely because for things just like hair strand or like bits bitchin carper, you don't need the for way I like exactly tape or region IT would enough job realistically.

I could probably leave some of that stuff just in the photo and nobody would notice. But I, I, I as well just remove IT and IT still works. It's still clean up, has so many other ways that IT sleeps and bounds ahead of the old retouch tool that i'm willing to put up with the trade off boat. I think what it's really useful. Those on the iphone, you just didn't have something like this at all built into the iphone photos APP until now.

And most thing you do not have the precision to do the older retouching and very well because no, you don't you can't do stylus. Your fingers are really fat. You what you can do is the clean up thing, if you like, roughly select the area and IT will pretty well select exactly what you actually want to get rid of. Um yeah the iphone orientated. They were the microphone.

Well, the photos APP could be getting a lot Better though. And you know why apple has reached a deal to acquire big omatla pixel. Meta is the team slash company behind pixel matter pro and the photo matter apps.

It's interesting as pixel matter itself announced to the news of this acquisition in like a blog post on their website of itself. That's interesting because apple acquires a lot of companies like a lot of companies, and we don't hear about most of them when we do hear about them. It's generally because vico report from bloomberg ger something like not an official announcement, but this was an official announcement from pixel meta saying the'd been acquired by apple.

They say no material changes to their apps at this time, and it's the energy between apple epomeo clear. I mean, anybody who's use pixel omeo pro or photo matter will tell you that they are almost like an APP designed by apple. The strategy of apple move here is interesting, I think, because i'm not entirely sure what they can do with pixel meta pro, but the integration and the the synergy with photo matter like that's clear a picatinny an interesting decision yeah I mean.

obviously bought the company out, right? So yeah, maybe they only about four yor and I know, but because that would may have basically took what was like pigs may oppose like the the the big, the big up right and in photo IT was basically refining of IT based around the gene will kind of that you want to a do to images in your photo? Bre, where is picks my approach? You can make like website projects and like, you know, canvas and graphics and you have video.

And since I picked me up on to so I think this some obvious steps, they could go, they could take the you because if you if you go to let the edit menu in photos on the mac. It's not a million miles away from the design of the photo matter stuff, right? Like and photo ata had a lot more options.

IT had some of the kind of machine learning things that the fact is that hasn't really done like the resizing super resolution scaling IT had like M L enhancement for color White baLance crop and stuff, like the fact that is double in that kind of area. H picks my really pushing ahead. And a lot of the stuff that picks my implemented was actually pretty closely aligned with the apple underlying A P S.

They just use them bad than what apple have done so far in many cases. Um like is not like the APP. The big of my like rendering stack is very close to using apple bed.

A P S like core imaging stuff um is not like they have this set completely separate that that you can wouldn't expect apple one integrate is pretty close to the the wire in terms of the apple frameworks. So there's some direction as they where they don't have to go to like rewrite everything, you know whether the products stay around us on their own is a different question. Like short term, obviously, they are.

And I kind of think they had to anounced on the website because photo that is a subscribe product. So customers would some point be like, hello, you know shipping updates, pretty shipping updates on like a monthly or quarter basis. And pigs may approach has been one time purchase for its entire lifespan.

They never switched at the description they did for math. That's a description and picks my approach. I think it's been in the top ten on the back APP stores since came up. Standing is so good and IT gave you most of the features of photoshop uh and those kind of tools in a one time purchase a one time purchase at which is like four equal or something yeah like weight per is like one month of photoshop is this entire week that gets updates on incredibly frequent basis.

I didn't realize pixel matter IT has been around for seventeen years. For some reason I had in my head .

that they were like they were old, that they're been around for a year sold in yeah every day at the APP, the mcp. I've seen a lot of .

speculation to about how much chapel might have spent on pixel latter. And there was a line in the blog post where pixel meta says the deal is pinting uh, regulatory approval and there was supposed I think from, I think ryan Jones on twitter shared that saying that the threshold ld for regulatory approval in the united states is like a hundred million dollars.

I will just say I do not think apple spent anywhere close to one hundred million dollars on pixel matter. I think saying a desk between one million and one hundred million and one hundred million over a hundred, yeah. And I I don't think you can read too much into the regulatory approval line just because that's that's the agent which we live .

right now and they need word wide regulatory approval. IT doesn't make the U. S. Constraints to be so IT might not be able to do with the money amount is exactly yeah where that they can get through the competition questions because I guess IT is a direct compared to photoshop and stuff.

And I finally found that other leading one, right? You kind of imagine in time they want to package either photo made or pixel mayo or some imagination the two into their own branded description product like like done with a final cut and logical on the ipad. Now 来, they going to take this whole company, just do an actually higher and includes fiction and fires, then move on.

IT doesn't I think picks is such a big help be kind of way. So i'm kind of seeing myself for the day when they like, oh, now it's they call IT apple prior something whatever they want to call IT. And now it's a scrip, if right. And they maybe not maybe they just integration into photos and they bring the team into the photos team and move on.

I think with in within two years, we will see a super resolution style feature directly in the photos APP just because that feature is, a is so good and b is so just impressed, they're such a while factor to IT like put the super resolution feature in the photos APP spin everything else, or most everything else out into something separate that would be a good use of this acquisition. I think you .

know how they do apple music and apple music classical. I think there is scope for them having the photos APP and then a pro photos APP that based on the same library, I, I, I for the library. But you just get a lot more tools and roles and adding options. And so then they could very easily have photos. And for live side by side.

I think you could even take that a step further and have camera and camera pro stand side by side. Yeah because there so much yet so much in the camera up nowaday. And you go into the settings s APP and you control what's like shown in the camera interface. There's like a dozen talks for different things and .

they've kindly doubled with IT recently. We have final cut pro camera, right that came out as a free ab. yes.

So I don't think you're too far off based on that at all. yes. So that's kind of where I imagine that going.

I i've you picked my approach like every day. The year since I came out seventeen, I did pretty good relationship with A P R team. I guess not anymore.

They would send me versions up front and a test now. And I review picks me for ipad when that first launch. Ched and all that jazz. Um but I use I use their application way before they had any sort of media relationship.

I think they breached out after I gave a review just off my back, picks me up for mac and because why I use that every day when i'm doing um feature images for not to have mac in pixel, make a pro, you can set preset crop sizes so I just have a two by one preset crop size called one to fied header drop in image in the crop boom is already said you don't worry about a being a different aspirators after manually type air or in a dragon around and you get with the four adding tours um as well. But on a day day basis, I did you use IT for very good cropping but if i've got photos like taken, I want to edit them more seriously than what the photos of us I just edit with. Pigs may appear on the test top on the mac.

Um so yeah, I got a lot of usage of that one time purchase. I kind of mean my back on my head was like one of these days they're going to make picks on my Price subscription too. I kind of hand to, they announced to do, but in head you like, come on the scription.

They did IT with four meter. They had one yet with pigs in April. But now is under apple's umbrella, is probably going na be a subscription service offering.

Yeah, I ve used special matter pro probably for almost as long as you have for the same reasons. But the difference in us making images for nine five mac is a lot of times you're working in the mornings before, like the rest of the in the united states, are awake. And we now have a graphic sky, Michael bowers, who can mostly make any image you need.

Just, you just ask him to. So I don't have to do that much anymore. But last week he was on vacation. So I was back in the pixel matter program, making my own future images. Now just was literally, I was thinking right before this news was announced, this APP is still so good. And even though I don't use IT as often as I used to, it's like riding a bike, like just right back on a drop in images and crop onum adding frames images because that something else they added recently was the ability to frame I phone in mac screen shots right in the APP itself.

Yeah, mean, literally, before we start recording, I did a story on this notes bag where who disappear and the at the feature image on that is a screen shot from my phone that's framed and cropped and what shadows and stuffed down and picks my own IT to me like three minutes.

Such a good happen and such a good team too. Like you're close to them. I've talked to them over the years. I think they've sponsored us at some point in the past, maybe once just a great, let me an ipad one time oh, see, I was going to give that up there.

They have been born out now. I guess it's long enough right when the when pigs make, if ipad came out, uh, don't think I had an ipad at the time that could run on something something like that. So they sent me in an ipad was run on.

They never asked for a back.

That's the key part of I I didn't influence my opinion. The software, that's sure. But IT was a nice little violence. Yes, just kind of funny.

And now apple is gonna some inventory on pixel major and they're going to come asking for that ipad back.

Yeah, that's the first gene. Ipad air is really well, three to our company. Think time bears beah. I recon this was going to cover a little bit, took down a guy while two O S generations to really show up I S when they required. And they were announced, by the way, to on the one side, right? And I don't think they were two hundred million dollar either.

So workflow was publicly announced. I think dark sky was publicly announced. Prime phonic, the APP that ended up becoming the basis file muc classical .

that was publicly announced was bit publicly announced.

The sleeping out with oh, actually I think so that are publicly .

announced in the form of a statement to somebody I an oh that was so the .

Better acquisition was discovered because Better at updated the privacy policy on its website.

Yes, that one directly problems. But yeah same difference I think yeah maybe next, maybe the because about now is when they go full, pal, on producing the next years of print system versions. But I think legally that the pigs make protein can't really do anything with them until they get regulatory approval right, which is gonna what end of the year.

So IT might not make IT for the next point zero s and maybe the year after, but depends on the implemented something simple or not simple, but like moving something like super resolution into the photos at yeah, they could do IT in six months if they really wanted to do IT, if that's what they bought out for. So maybe we were seeing by W W. C will see the first results from this acquisition.

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of betas for apples upcoming updates, and of course, a headlined by IOS eighteen point two beta two. The first change year is that I O S eighteen point two beta one was only available on phones that could run apple intelligence. So the fifteen pro and newer eighteen point two beta two is available to all I O S eighteen phones, including your iphone fourteen pro mail.

And you were showing me before you started recording that. That means you now have access to the new photo or the new the new mail. APP design, right?

Yeah with the categories I like kind like IT. IT has a pretty good job, apart from all like none of her, my tips in box, which just gets flooded all day long, IT doesn't know how to handle that. But if I, if I sutra ted that email account from my phone, I feel that the cognizance is pretty good, is not big, but is good enough that there is actually useful.

And what kind of really like is now they have an option. And for male badgers to only badge for the primary in books, not all messages. So even if I maybe want to to be on the all mail view, if i'm on the home screen, i've got like a little red bad that is, in the perfect sense, only showing you the stuff is actually really, really important.

Are you the primary stuff of the random updates and transactions don't get Carried on the notification bad? Now so far, i'm kind of digging IT. You can always switch back like other force.

Es can't agrees. You can go back to the last few, the unified view, if you want to. But i've kept your own category for the time being because I found .

IT helpful for the one thing that seems to be missing. And the new design though, is if you're in one of the category, tabs are here in the primary tab and you hit select, you would expect there to be a select all button summer on that screen, right? But there's not.

But if you go to the old male view or just the old male APP design altogether, and you hit select, there is a select button. So I don't know why there's no select all butter in the category in boxes because if i'm in, say, the promotions tab, and I just want to a person, all of that you'd had select, select all delete can do that. You have to may only swipe through and select all of them to do that.

IT would be old and odd.

I thought I was A I can oversight and maybe I will come in beta three. But it's been like this in beta one in beta too, so far.

When you're in at all mail of you IT like replaces the back arrow in the top left of the navigation hierarchy with the select door. But it's like intentionally, not there or the other. I yep.

hopefully that changes because that's IT all goes back to that stupid. And nine to five mac tips in box for me, there's a lot of stuff I just wanted to lead right away from that.

Yeah we kind of call I think this control doesn't haven't seen IT. Like you can't like exclude one of your main account because I like mall accounts and I think to be unified ah um but obviously where a bit of the edge case here, not the main instream, I think for a maintained in box based on using IT for two days, I would do a useful job. People would actually like IT.

Oh yeah, it's it's really good. The category ation good and you can manually recasting graze things. And IT seems to remember that for the future based on the sender. So if you move a sender from transactions to primary, all emails from that in rubi and primary going forward, it's really well done. And I think for most people it's going to be IT should be the default.

the U. S. Pret, clever as well with a little bubbles. Anything I think slight wait is if you're in primary transactions, updates or promotions, the old mail filter, this isn't on of the screen. So like you have like d selected for the matter, I pay decide there's enough space on the screen enough like they could just have IT is a because otherwise if kind of explained to someone a, whether my messages, well, just tap on the tab you just clicked on and then IT why one from the right that is all mail like A A bit more discoverable that was just always visible on the screen. I don't understand movable to .

hide IT other things in eighteen point to a beta two in the settings APP you have the option to directly subscribe to ChatGPT plus .

not just in the settings APP. Where else can you do so if you go over your daily free limit IT in your face?

Oh, I hadn't seen that. yeah.

yeah. So this is where you get the apple revenue you share and going on, obviously, I don't have apple intelligence by senior screen shot. So if the person I saw screen shot was no writing tools on the mac, 我 来 pop over window。

yeah. So they were in the compose with ChatGPT thing and they're gone over their free day limit of unclear how many free day limit you get to the advances. And there's a big button like you can control using advanced models with check GPT plus click here to describe so is not just deep in the settings, is also when you grow your daily limit in places, I guess. And I and that includes I saw a mouse h show IT h as part of the syrian integration, too.

that if there's going to be a limit, you have to tell people when they hit that limit. And most people would probably want to know that there's a way to get around that limit. But that is the gross part, I think, of apple getting in bed with OpenAIr o n t his.

Probably it's not um like an all that win as IT wasn't bit one right. Yeah an advertising tear to IT or like a services are to the uh and I don't think there's like A I again, I don't have the ability to see the same screens, but I haven't seen anyone be like here's the bottom which says I never want to upgrade the protei only then let me use the free tier features is like if you're not on the protect, at some point you're get slap with a little lad for .

creating yeah I had to notice that because I do subscribe to chat G P. Plus and I signed my account from day so I haven't hidden any limits. One other thing too that I think I said when oc t point two beta one came out and proved to be wrong, or they changed, as I said, that your interactions were ChatGPT through theory, didn't sink back to your ChatGPT account.

So if you interacted with chat pt through theory, went to the ChatGPT APP, IT would have no knowledge of those interactions that has changed at some point. And IT does remember whether you interact with ChatGPT. You can now find IT in the APP itself, which is a nice change, because interacting with IT through theory is fine for a one off question, but if you want to dive deeper to something or ask a lot of follow ups, that interface built into series not the best for those longer term interaction.

So it's nice to be able to bounce out to the ChatGPT up itself and do that with a Better interface. Other things. Eighteen point two, the new lock focus option for the camera controllers here.

So the sweet apple showed at the iphone sixteen event in september where you can light, press to lock, focus of an image for impress all the way down to take that, take that picture, just like you do on like a Normal camera. This is disabled by default, but if you go into the settings APP and choose camera control relationship togo for IT works fine. I've played with IT a little bit.

It's also kind of a good reminder just that the iphones s auto focus and the iphones intelligence that knowing what you want to take a picture of is so good that doesn't seem necessary. But IT is there. IT is there as an option. Now if you want to use IT.

this is the feature that makes IT work like a traditional camera. Ah you have press to focus any Price click um and if you were on the profiles and you're doing the prophets graphical features, I think this probably had a lot of appeal. You might want to turn off the other stuff. You can swipe between everything and just only have IT as look focus. And then and I 说 to shop .

on because by default, understand White turned off by default just because argument. There's other things about the camera control that should be turned off by default because it's trying to do so much. So then if you go in and you and you enable this half press feature without disabling something else that's just too much going on on the camera control.

You going to have to pick whether you want to use this half press feature or whether you want the ability to swipe around and change other controls. The find my APP has gotten a surprisingly big up data, eighteen point two beta, too. You can now share the location of a lost item so someone else can help you locate IT.

So in the find my APP, in the find my APP, you go in, you choose an air tag that you've lost. Tap on IT. There's a new option to share you base good.

A link, yes, this is separate to the sharing attack. I disapearance other people is find my apps in your left. I have family. yeah.

So this is your generating a link to the location of that air tag that you can then send to somebody else, whether they have an iphone or a maker, whatever. Like apple's example in the description is that you can send the link to an airline. So if the airline loses your luggage, you can send them the tracking link to the air tag attached to that luggage, a feature that i'm sure airline customer service report representatives are going to love. Just getting a bunch of unsolicited find my links to lost luggage.

To be fair, I think they're getting the unsolicited .

screen shots.

Yeah yes, screen. Just some people was finally apps on a new basis because there was like the only way to do is to give like your phone to the airline, right? They could track IT around. So is clean response to demand and and is cleverly done because the links expire after a month.

So is not like someone can like secretly track your location forever because you get like a city and the links expire, you can make another link for you you want to um but is ant is not meant for like long term sharing a location. That's what the share attack features for what you like bringing into your family as IT this is meant for like the transient, oh, you know, i've gone on a holiday with a group of friends and then you need to track my keys. However, I A share link for the two weeks or oh, my things lost, but know the airline, help me find a kind of example is a pretty big expansion of what the yeah could do, and they never announced IT, right? Like just showing up in any point.

Debate is state. The other thing they've done is that now when the art gets lost, you can also associate a phone number, email address with the im. So when it's lost and it's in like the lost more thing and someone else like holds IT to their device, IT doesn't just say this is an I, T, I. I say this contact ban at and may not if I not come, whatever I put into the into the field um again a pretty big feature improvement yeah uh that doesn't really have anything do the attack itself is already with the infrastructure around IT right and let to find my APP and more exposes uh but is a great thing that they've a snake dinner.

Air tag is a lot like airports in which he just continues to get significantly Better over time with the same hardware just upgrades to the infrastructure around IT because air tags, I mean, they didn't have the basic support for sharing like you mentioned when they first came out. No, apple has added that they've added all the anti stocking features. Theyve have now added these changes. And eighteen point two, all with the first generation tech, can really complain about a tagle longlegs ity .

for for the current beta I did use by these buttons. The links don't work. Now, see, the website is value. And then I think when I clicked, I us to look at this. I M the first time I clicked IT was like, this cannot be used for ums that already close to you.

So like, they kind of force you to lose you before you can do IT, which I thought was, I guess is a privacy thing that I won't use IT like all the time. I think I elt like, okay, just like a IT just force IT. And then I did do that.

And then I like um my tag, like disconnecting from my eye de account. That might just be a bit because I got the thing which is like an attack is moving with you and it's like the first time I ve ever seen that for my own case. Um so but I think that fixed itself again now. But very briefly, there was a bit of a glitch on that. But but I not in .

I S C team. Point two, beta two. I think I think those are the big changes. There's a couple of things like the icons in the settings APP for everything now fully match your home screen tent and icon design for the camera control for the double double light press speed, there's a new option to pick between slower.

slow and define I am control. And they do kind of revealing that maybe they didn't get IT right first time at the gate in some way. When is that many options in the point to release you? I mean, like this so many ways you can figure IT.

I'd defended the camera control when I first came out in the first few weeks of iphone sixty ownership because I think this is such a well done button and it's such a when you remember to use IT, it's really, really good. But the problem is, even now that they spend what almost two months since the iphone sixteen came out, there are still so many times. Or i'm taking a picture, I just forget that it's there. And I forget that it's there until my finger or my hand accidently glides over IT and changes of setting. So I think I had expected to kind of have the camera control.

T yeah.

haven't become like like just an instinct to use IT by this point and IT hasn't. And I don't know why that is. I don't know that that'll change, but I think I do need to break down and disabled basically all of the features except press IT to go to the camera p and press IT to take a picture. I need to disabled the light, press to swipes the auto focus lock all of that and just use that as a pure camera button, which is disappointing because it's so it's engineer to do so much more. But I just can't I can't integrate those other things into how I pictures without without .

IT also getting in the way other times. Yeah, even if he is great, the muscle memory is so strong to come when ever some sway to kind of avoid that right, which seems to be the reception from the law people on on the camera control.

But the beta news this week that excited me most is vision of s two point two beta one, because IT adds the new wide and ultrawise settings for mac virtual display. So these are what I will show a wwdc. And they said they said they were coming later this year. Now when you enable mac virtual display wearing your vision pro, there's a new button above the floating mac window they just tap on and you can choose between Normal, wide and ultrawise.

It's one of those features like a lot of things with vision pro that you really have to try to experience because i'm going to tell you that this is incredible and it's so cool and it's awesome and you have to take my word for because can try IT and you can IT looks so from and look and it's it's as awesome as IT looks. I mean, I think our colleague, jeff managment, has been doing like a bunch of math trying to figure out the exact resolution of the ultra de option. And he said it's the equivalent of two five k displays side by side, which is higher than what apple claimed IT would be, which was two 4k displays side by side。 And another change theyve made in conjunction with this is that when in max virtual display mode, audio from your mac now comes directly through the vision pro speakers or your airports.

If they are connected to the vision pro, that's very nice. Previously, all audio in mac virtual display mode de came from the market itself, and that audio is spain. So if you leasing to music and apple music on your mac connected to vision pro audio comes through vision pro and IT has that spain head tracking aspect and depth perception that vision pro, that vision pro audio always has.

So the audio is, when you say it's specially arranged, is IT whether windows are in your space? Or do you mean in terms of like the music? Is that all around you because in around sand where the mac tul display when ay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. And I saw some people say that even if you don't use the wide of the ultra options, the defauts mode is Better now too, like a shop or something that would would.

I would agree that IT all seems OK. Whether are using Normal, wide or ultrawise, IT all seems significantly sharper. A higher, higher resolution highbred rate IT .

makes sense because they've deployed this like thing where the map does phobia at rendering now. So they are basic, sending less bits only what you actually looking at in high quality, but that means that they can use and even high quality for you're looking at directly. Yeah.

it's a significant upgrade. I mean, i've always said that mac virtual display is like the feature of vision pro, and without that, I would use vision pro significantly less. And that's still true to this day having a floating two dimensional mac window in front of you.

While that's great and useful, IT doesn't give you much that having an external display in front of you can give you if that make sense. But now you put this your problem and you you go into wide or alter wide mode. It's just I don't know how x to explain IT accept it's very cool and it's very immersive.

I think the ultrawise is like two White almost. I found the White to be the sweet spot, but it's it's an upgrade to my favorite fish power future, and i'm excited about that. Michael s fifteen point to beta to has a small change, which is now you can have the weather in your menu bar, which is cool. I guess it's a Randy m thing .

but it's so funny because like you finally made to do this on windows for so many years and I guess they are needed the weather rap on the mac natively last year or the year before was very longer, right? I think yeah, think IT was last year. Yeah think IT was last year. Finally got around to doing the slapping in the many body.

You know what I can help I think of when I look at IT and like see IT and like a screen shot in somebody y's menu bar IT reminds me of is that istat menus? Yes, yeah. Shows like the year, CPU temperature, whatever. Like, that's what I think of when I see her.

But now this is, this is just the outdoors. I would like, well, if I was listening, them to do a similar thing for the home map, so you can have, like, your favorite accessory. And lights like me is accessible for you by map. There are three, four, one, just me. There are three party apps that do have, offer many home access, but I want the apple version, the next version, and does not exist.

As you started saying that I started google in because I knew there was a third party APP that does. And its home control, I think, is the popular one.

And just around of the beta to T V S, uh, beta to support twenty one by nine projectors. Now to end some other spirits, tio s and IT seems like as expected, we'll get the screens avers that they were promising with the apple TV original one and the snowy one by the time the T V S eighteen point two actually ships that are not available in the current beta. But the code, if you look inside the court offences there are there.

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Mark garman. I blue burger reports this week that apple is seriously considering a cheaper vision product of some sort that offloads the compute to your phone directly. This is not the first time we ve heard about this, but mark seems to suggest now that it's an idea that's gaining traction inside apple.

IT was also something that was rumored. Remember that report? Remember that report from the information before? Yeah, vision pro announced that he was like a dispute between john I eve and the rest of the vision team and IT was john Y I, ve. That wanted the all in one design, but theyd also tested a version that didn't offload the compute. Your iphone but to like a dedicated well, like a dedicated like almost like a mac meeting that like cat in the corner of your house or whatever.

Yeah, a little pok thing that would be nearby and widely ssl compute and IT would the benefit is you could have even more powerful G P, U and C P U. And processing this one. Is you more tevez than never, right? But on the current vision pro, because of the battery life, you kind of in cases anyways, you is a lot of merit. Gino idea.

here we are. I feel like that makes more sense to not have the computer in an iphone necessarily, but just pushed the computer into the existing vision pro battery pack one way or the other rather than put IT all in the iphone. Well.

I think part of this is a function of trying to get something out this cheaper.

That's true. yeah.

And so what what the way I kind of interpret the government report is that they are going to Carry on doing in the vision line, the computers that can on dedental, that's a great product direction. They keep pushing.

But also they going to to make an iphone accessory, which is basically a way for to watch stuff that can be stored on the iphone, managed the iphone is projected in your eyes using some of had set or some sort of glasses form factor. What always comes back me. Every time tim cook has an interview these days, you talk about the vision pro.

What did you talk about? Talk about lying back, laying like face down or like face up again, us against the ceiling and watching movies on vision and parents since the best thing in the world, you don't need a vision pro power to watch movies like that, right? The iphone could the movies you could just have a thing on your face, maybe doesn't have pass through IT just shows video streams, right? And it's just a big way of enjoying your photo library, enjoying your media collection.

They could put some, they could have the sound of things to give you sound in areas you just put IT on. And you can have fun on the train. You have fun on the plane.

You don't need the whole vision pro. And I feel like that could be way, way, way cheaper. Then what the vision pro Prices.

And yes, I would be testing to the iphone and IT wouldn't do as much, and I don't think IT would even do post right. IT would just be like A V R portal for watching movies in doing content. And maybe you could access a ultrawise mac vertua display through as well, I think is a good idea.

It's a decent idea, and that comes back to what we talk about to with the cheaper vision headset that's been removed as IT really comes down to the quality of the displays. If you keep the current vision to display quality and do this and just upload everything to your iphone, you kind of do have the best movie watching experience possible, which is what the vision pro in many ways is meant to do.

And the reason i'm saying you, you probably want to post, it's going to think the late and see that be too high to like get two year cameras that are on your face to then stream to the finally processor, then be shown back in your eyes like I don't think that's probably very variable. So where where if you do V, R, latency doesn't matter as much because you can't see you got A A reference frame to the outside world.

And if the idea is you're most using its stationary and they can just project windows in front of you and I think they can get away with that, you would be a different product like IT would be a different OK of the product line. But I think the two could very easy set side by side. Um and I kind of think that's where we're heading because the ultimate in on face wearable is so far from the distance until we get that is going to be a very like fractured collection of different accessories, overlapping features but also distinguishing things that attack different Price points and attack different kind of views cases.

Uh may already kind of does this right where they have the right bands that aren't really like anything, do a video because they even have screens that project for anything, but they are face wherever les. But then they also have matter of the our headsets and they're overseen heading in the iran direction eventually, I don't think, is a terrible idea for apple to to spend a its line up to in that way. Um people aren't going to jump even if you like.

We spoken about the direction vision prior, right like second gen half of the Price still gonna very limit gna buy IT maybe how the Price again, you maybe getting Better as a long way off and you probably going to make compromise to the product to get to that kind of Price point. So we taking a long time on line in the near return. Maybe they have done of what they call on airports, face glasses or something that are like headphones.

But therefore watching videos s in like a cinematic experience. And if there are a few hundred dollars, I think people probably be to king on buying them, especially light journeys and trains and plans, and even maybe you're in bed and you just enjoy a film like you can just lie down and watch one or something. I think this is a compelling idea.

There is also a story from a report from ming chi kuo that said apple has delayed the cheaper vision had set until at least beyond twenty and twenty seven. Nobody else has collaborated this. And I think mark german, as recently as a couple days ago, said the cheaper vision had set is still in the works for next year yeah late next year.

So I don't know if this is great, just going rope for some reason. But delay IT beyond twenty twenty seven, that's a big delay. That's big. That's that's border line, not the project. Yeah exactly so I don't know if I believe that part that that that report from quote yeah .

closed on the they can do in five version right late twenty five, twenty twenty six. But he doesn't think they can do a cheap er version. The number one the number one problem, vision Price Price, yeah, they need to get the Price down.

I think the obvious way to get more market share is to make the Price lower. Everything there are other problems were not rolling about, but the number one in SHE is Price. And so I would be prioritizing that. But that the even that thing I would consider a separate chapter to this thing, which is for like face movie watching kind of kind of side, I think this is very different products is like headphone is like the difference is about and apples max, you know, I like different.

different segments that mark also had a story this week, too, saying that I started some sort of like internal survey about whether, I guess, whether they should make smart glasses of some sort. This would be something like the meter bans. We've known that apple expLoring in this for a while. I just think it's interesting to A C, the process that apple is going through, apparently trying to decide if they should move forward with this product by serving their own employees and be IT signals to me that apple is pretty far from actually launching anything like this again .

or indecisive maybe in to the direction to be. And i'm pretty sure they have d uses. They dance like employee studies on other stuff too, like wearables back in the day before the watch came out.

Um i'm sure they did. I don't know whether I don't think it's like they sleeve ously just do whatever the service say, you know, but it's like a data point that they incorporate into their discussions. And then one monday in the executive meeting between the heads, they like we're gonna do this and then they will get behind IT.

Uh, but IT doesn't feel like we're quite in that faja in terms. They are all behind something that isn't on the vision pro line. We know that research and development and actually making the product is different.

Obviously, they do in researching development h but coming to make the product line happen, uh, doesn't seem like with there. So maybe if they get really sounding positivity from the survey from employees, that will maybe change someone's mind like um Michael, who is going to the employees to the like meeting with them. Cook, look at this. Employees want to make gorses.

Let's do IT. I hope that they ought to say that because they should absolutely make a product like meteorite bds. And I can't help but think that if meta hadn't gotten this partnership with raban, hadn't launched these smart meta y bands and they weren't so successful and popular, apple might have been the company to do IT instead OK.

I think apple, they would have never pointed with someone else on the design. That's that's h yes. But putting aside that, it's almost like apple is so committed to the vision pro strategy.

I don't know about that. I can't disagree that. okay. We think they're doing the airports with camera. Yeah, that's kind of their equivalent, right? So maybe their debate tends that do we also have to do glasses or can we just do the airport camera things?

That's fair. My poe is like, do you think it's just a principal thing where they say, okay, ay matters. Doing this matter makes cheap products. We hate matter because apple does .

have like a vial. Yeah.

I hate matter, matter. So tim cook, I think, hate mark zarchy berg more than he hache just about anybody, because he is the only as far as I can remember. The only time tim cook is ever, like, publicly insulted or jabs dad, or poke at another big tech CEO. It's mark archer k they there's still much hape betwen these two companies. And I think I hope that, that's not clouding apple justman on what they're doing in this category.

Yeah, you don't want you to just be like dum reactionary stuff, but we're sitting in thinking that smart glasses and probably be quite good. So yeah, maybe yes, maybe it's hard to criticizing for that. And then I spill out, well, that's what they should be doing.

So yeah, I will also just put in the either that they like the story from scotland sto, where jobs came back from a meeting with some mix of guy talking about the my soft tablets strategy in the two thousands, like we can do that way Better. Let's make some, let's and then they start the ipad project, whatever a net first evolved into the fine project. So sometimes, you know, personal animosity does play a role in product decisions.

Uh but I think if you're apple, if you take if you don't take face wherever les that can you take wearables? The calgary, you can probably say quite para with like your laden airports, right? Yeah they just that with the head, the hearing protection and hearing I features, I said another big expansion and you could easily what matt does not have any here and is, you know like where is headed phones like so you can make the you can make the argument the other way.

But we will kind of agree that something in the in the Cindy of things you wear on your face or leggate apple was first attempt was the vision pro, if you ever got an apple x directly, and they even become more open like that team cooking of you recently. Even then I limit this is not the end point, right? This is just the start.

Um and maybe they should have started smaller with just simply glasses that don't really have any A R abilities at all, but they just spicy like airports with different frames you and with different strategies, different floats. You can't deny that apple's influence in whereabouts, not joyal mous. They they have the most popular watching the world, the most popular headphones in the world.

It's hard to call him irrelevant, right, but matters at a huge job. So do you also can't deny that? So so we Better wait .

around out this joy this week than to talk about the digital markets .

act in the european.

And that is that is so two things. First, the european missioned says that they're now formally assessing whether ipad to s is in compliance with the digital markets act. So the ipad itself was classified as a gatekeeper platform in April because, remember, apple had tried to argue that the iphone and the ipad IOS ipad s are two .

completely different platforms, and the IP has less.

A good argument in theory, not A A clever argument in theory, didn't really work out for them. One of the interesting things that the E. U.

Says they are investigating now is how the ipad, the international ability of the ipad with things like quote headphones and smart pins. This is presumably referring to the ipad compatibility with airports and apple pencil verses compatibility with third party products in those categories. But there's nothing that I love more .

than smart pants pens. Why can't they call them start is a smart pen. That's the situation. The problem here is because, I mean, they're y're also investigating whether the iphone has too much dominance with the apple watch and airports too. This is kind of like the ipad dc event um and the announcement of their formally assessing compliance, I think is just a formal cause is based just six months after the ipad became get keep pro. So I don't think it's like them specifically saying what apple hasn't complied, and our open investigation is just like this.

The process six months gone by, you've had enough times and I were going to check that you have done what we want um because they also say they are assessing whether they're allowing the apps stuff they do, as I say on iphone in the u for month. Even those details are to lon debate right is is back and forth that whether implemented fairly or unfairly, although is the court technology very unfair, all these arguments continue to work around. We resolution on that.

But the accessory stuff is kind of interesting because, you know, the ipad will pair with any blue e head phones. Yeah PaaS nice. So with airports, but he does pair the five friends.

You can buy plenty of Price styles on amazon. Do work with the ipad. Whether they are apple endorse is IT or not is a different matter. But they do kind of work give many that, like even emulate apple pencil blue profiles. So they kind of get a lot of features.

The apple pencil U S, B, C, you can always find a million different equivalence of the are unbranded and existed before the apple pencil U S, B C, with exactly the same features. H that work with the ipad. They really exist. The apple pencil pro is harder to replicate. There's some features there that more exclusive.

Maybe that's what do we made about maybe no, we don't really know where they draw the line on what what is sufficient a probability with these accessory, the end state of the world could not be the apple, could not have any feature on their own accessories, ies that is unique and not allow any unique features can be right. But maybe that's what I gna say. And that could be kind of stupid.

Also with the with the area pod's compatibility and error ability stuff IOS teen and ipad was eighteen added like that new streamlined pairing process for standard blue eth successories ies. Now you get if if you're paying a non airpower D S, non apple accessory, you get a similar like pop up card as you do in your area airports. To me, that addresses at least one of the aspects of that of potential interOperability issues of that regard is part of IT.

right? But like you don't get like airports have like custom U I in the Operating system, like when you see noise controls in little sound menu in control center headphones have light noises lation many you can control that you don't have transparently say, like let's play of airport exclusive features. They even just study those head gestures and anyway, you can say yes or no and talk and sorry by moving your head around. Like is the you going to like, well, we don't care about anything unless you also allow any third party headphones, also let you do a head gesture. I don't know, I feel feel that kind of stupid, but maybe that's what they going to fall through then.

Bloomer reported this week that apple is about to face the use first ever dma fine, so I will be fined for what sounds like its policies around anti steering on the iphone.

This is the up store does, and IT doesn't mean I know going to get fine for the thing .

is actually just the first fine. And even the report even says to that just for this absa fine IT could be a one off fine to start then monthly recurring penalties until apple gets into compliance fully with the D. M.

A. I feel like we've been kind of at a stale me in the progress with the D. M. A over the last few months, like apple is clearly in discussions with the european commission, they're making changes. But we haven't really hit that first moment where this constant back and forth and small change after small change is going to out, all of that's going to end and were going to get a big change in strategy. But if this fine kicks in and IT says, bloomberg says I could kick in as soon as this month, there needs to be a change between the relationship between apple and the .

european commission. The problem is right now, whatever change gets announce on either side, the other side is really criticised. The apple announced something, you have spotify, an epic game, say stupid and bad, and then we kind of wait around to see what the E.

U. thinks. And then the you, you change the policies bit, and apple changes IT. But they like when the apple does IT change, the not like this is fine. Now this is all good, where they just this kind of like quality yes, in around stage is like I didn't when that cycle.

And exactly, yeah.

But slapping billions of dollars as a fine definitely helps to speed up the conversation.

So and to tie IT all back around to the election, ran out that we could the election. Remember, a couple weeks ago, trump said during a podcast interview that tim cook had called him directly to complain about the european union. Yes, this, this was the tax thing.

Yes, this was about this was about the tax thing and about the spotify anti trust thing about music, extremely services. And trump's response was something along the lines of the eu can't be finding american companies and we're not going to put up with that. But I have to get elected first.

Truck got elected.

And Margaret message in the E. U, the u. Competition chief SHE is on her way out. I don't think it's, I don't think it's insane to imagine a world in which just a few months from now, all of this eu stuff kind of just stops. There's a kind of comes to a close for the time .

being or or insight, a massive mention, a war of people fighting everybody .

finds for everybody tariff s for everybody what could go wrong.

Yes, I definitely think like the E U. Commission is politics to you, right? Oh ah messager want is gona leave but I bet before he leaves the finds announced, right? That's like the the the one of a she's gonna find an american company and with a big number for the D M.

A. And will apple actually ever actually have to pay that fine? Nobody knows what they pay. The irish one that took ten years. I said I about say in the earnings report last week, we could see that ten billion dollars ge going back to ireland. So there's precedent and .

they're contesting the sort. Fine fine right is one point seven billion. So I I but lying in um if this part I case alone was one point seven billion and overall fine on the antistrophe y the APP store you think got me more right.

I feel like we're looking at ten billion at least. Yeah it's going to be hefty. So I can't wait for the the apple newsroom moa le, in response.

we will see but yeah potentially before the end of the month. And on that happy note, I think that does IT for this week. You can find this on apple podcast, where you can leave a rating under review, find an add free version of the show with bonus content each and every week at one to five, mcdowell comes last.

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