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2.5 Admins 219: Spooky Stories

2024/10/31
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Jim and Allan recount spooky and horrific experiences from their sysadmin careers, starting with a data center migration gone wrong due to a power outage and corroded cables. Allan shares a story about a company with wide-open public IPs, leading to rampant security issues. The hosts also discuss challenges with legacy systems and limited technology in earlier times.
  • Data center migration complicated by power failure and corroded cables.
  • Company with all machines on public IPs and no firewall.
  • Challenges with legacy systems, limited technology, and blind troubleshooting in the 80s and 90s.

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Two thousand and half admits epsom two one nine aren't joe.

I'm jim and .

i'm Helen and he are again. Before we get started, you got a plug, Allen. There is maintenance best practices.

Yeah so if you maintain a as and need to keep up working and want IT to last a long time, this article kind of walks through some of the things you should be watching for a monitor and and making sure to keep your nets in your storage healthy.

right? Well, linking the showing nuts as usual. So today is halloween, and I thought we would have a bit of silly fun. I thought youtube could tell me some of your spooky horror stories of terrible things that have happened to you in your your careers.

I fun when I happened to me was a so many years ago, we were migrating from one data center to another. So the data center he was in was at a good local cable company. But they got bought by the big national cable company.

And they are like, yeah, we want all the data s center face to ourselves. Get up. So we had a relatively short time to move all of our machines to a new data center. So we thought I will do half the machines on the first day and then the other half of the machines a couple days later.

So we configured all the machines so that on next reboot, they were boot with the different subnet and the different default way and all the other configuration so that they're often running at the old data center. And as we power them off, put them in the car, drive them an hour in something to the other data center, rack them up, turn them on, they'll come on with the right configuration. Ation.

i'm pretty sure I smell what's happening here.

Do you to take a guest to.

well, did somebody reboot them all before they actually get moved to the second center?

Almost worse, the cable company who taken over the old data center, I kind of neglected the maintenance. And so there was a power failure and the generator kicked on. But the cavo that ran power from the generator to the transfer switch had corroded and didn't transfer any electricity.

So once the U. P. S, has ranged the entire data center and dark. So when we came in to remove our equipment as scheduled, the building was full of other people trying to get their machines back online.

So IT was much more complicated to trying to like unrich machines and Carried them out the door because there were all these other people in the way. We Normally this would have been relatively empty, but yes, all of our machines rebooted on the new configuration, and we vented to get the other ones back. But we were using yp, the yellow pages N I S mechanism uh of a precor to l dep to manage juice names and passwords. And so when the network wasn't working, you try to log in. And like if you and top or ls trying to map a and a user I D to a user name would try for over sixty seconds before timing out so every command you're trying to do, if you don't remember to put the dash n flag, just has this sixty second latency while IT tries to look up the .

user for my own uh I had do some think about this when and especially uh because IT clara they're going to be doing the Z F S hour stories. I wanted to try to avoid any easy affect later Harry stories and that still leaves a lot of things to pick from but I think i've got the one when I first came to colombia, south CarOlina, a in a two thousand one.

I had been here for a couple years, and I had been about two thousand three, maybe two thousand four. The job that I came to columbia before had evaporated out from beneath me, which began my full time careers and merri I like or not. And for a while there I was working with another guy who had an established small IT firm in town.

And he would contract me for some of his thornier jobs because he mostly was sending, like, you know, relatively unsupervised, like junior people out of things, and he didn't really have the cavalry to call. And so I was the cavalry. And one of the jobs that that guy sent me on with a with a crew of junior folks are right.

So it's been more in twenty years, but I still want to be real careful when I don't want to naming any names here. They sent us to a business that IT turned out had its own fully, one which was a big deal in two thousand three, two thousand four. And every single machine in the building had access to the faulty one worth ve been with.

And you know what, they were all on one single flat public subject with no firewall what so ever. So you have an entire building for the machines, everything from the series to everybody y's individual work stations to god to help if you walked in with the laptop. All have wide open public I P addresses.

And the the company had been complaining that their internet speed was just way slower than they should have been. And when I got in there, IT wasn't just their internet be. That was a whistle than they should have been.

Everything was vastly slower than that should then because the absolute last entity in terms of priority for any of their processing cycles or network been with or storage bin with was themselves. The entire internet was using the whole company as its own playground. You look at the server, you're going to find ten different scrip kitties on there are worrying over whose jobs are doing.

What you go logged into somebody y's workstation. It's the same thing, the same thing. You still got like five to ten different script itty, all trying to do their own thing.

Someone were trying to steal data. Most of were trying to upload. Born someone trying to upload, you know, where's cracked games or whatever. IT was an absolute nightmare and believed not. That company resisted very strongly when you I said, in no one certain terms, we have to put you behind the fire wall before we can do anything else. They didn't like that idea.

I remember those days where there was A A way to basically hide the files were upload in the swap file, which you know, as people know by default, is invisible when you browse in the file system. And so you could like fill a hard drive on that windows two thousand server with all your where so wever and they wouldn't show up in the file system if somebody was browsing around because they are all hidden in the swap file.

There was almost certainly some of that going on from one or two of the smarter kitties. But boy, how did that? I mean, you didn't even bother looking for that because every hard drive is just keen of full of wear. Dot xi, and know what have you?

When I did my workplace's during high school at the power plan, they had a similar thing. They had, like a slash, sixteen of I P addresses because they've been around that long and just every machine in the entire company had its own dedicated publicly radio I P address.

Now they did have firewalls and most of the suddenness weren't reached from the internet, but they're using gobs of valuable I V space for every windows machine that could have been on some internal substance instead. And IT was just especially at the time when I was doing, you know, I R C hosting and sad and knew how valuable individual I P addresses for. There are so many I P addresses, they're not using the for anything useful.

Also, you know if you folks aren't efficiently horrified by my story, given the the lack of detail when I have, you have basically saying I was just tons and tons of mare and script itty everywhere. Where do you look? Maybe add this little detail.

E to IT. I said this was two thousand three or two thousand four, right? Windows firewall didn't day you until windows server two thousand three when I say there was no firewall in the place.

There was no hardwork firewall in front of the whole network. There was no hard work firewall in front of the server rack. There were no software firewalls on the individual servers or the individual machines that was wide open in a way that nothing is. What had opened in twenty, twenty four and a half of the internet knew I was there, and IT was their playground.

You mean the'd never heard of zone alarm .

this hard stories.

We're trying to make people skin .

call that's fair. That's fair. I didn't realize we are going for body heart. That was more than I T C.

yeah. Another one for me that was not really orrible c but if its spooky was we had the extra space in the rack we have rented at that cable I S P. And so we delayed some old machines, and we're offering to rent the mote.

And we found this company that was interested, and they put, you know, there are copy of windows server on this thing. So I got to all set up of my house, and we took at the data center and reacted IT and didn't boot up and everything is fine. And then we realized IT wouldn't let us R D P into IT and couldn't figure out why.

And then I don't let us. The windows firewall was on by default and didn't allow R D. P. through. But we were already back this thing up. And this was a small data center, didn't really have crash carts where you could easily like weal up up, monitor and keyboard and play g IT in and fix the server.

And it's like, well, we'd have to like unraced and find a monitor and try to do all this stuff, taking back to my house, give back another day, and we don't want to do that. So I used my phone, which at the time was an H, T, C touch running windows C, E, and managed to look up the net S H command to disable the windows firewall from the command line. So i'm standing at the back of a rack of servers with a little USB keyboard that i've plugged into the server, and I just press control, delete.

And where is second type? Use name press, have type the fast word, press enter, listen the hard drive, start hugging and just wait, vote two minutes to make sure it's log all the way and and then windows key are command and get a count with us and then run the next stage command, which isn't something you just put on the command like IT. It's an interactive thing.

You run out and starts that, and then you put commanding. And so then I put in the two or three commands from this website, doing each one twice in a row in case i've made a typo I didn't see, and then calling a friend and having the trying to R D P into the sip address and see if that worked yet or not, if they can, connecting into the loggin screen. I was having to hold the keeper with one hand and type with one hand, standing in the hot air of a data center, trying to do this completely blind, like visualizing what windows is doing.

And, you know, this was a long time ago, and I had a bit more winters experience them. But even then, I was really a kind line unix person, not so much a windows person. So IT was quite stretch to do this whole set up.

Blind I used have to do that, kind of think all of the time in the one hundred and ninety usually IT wasn't anything like super impressive like expanding the data center, whatever I D be a small business server for your a lucky maybe you and just somebody's computer and like the monitor died, wanted to shut IT down safely or whatever in you're sit in there like in your commands blinding yeah I remember what you're member like a listening for the hard drive activity being like that doesn't seem like the right out of hard drive activity for what I thought I just did where we go from here.

So you just kind of like using the force until what you want to happen actually happens. But I haven't had to do that in a long time. That was, that was very much a nineties phenomenon for me since we're doing spooky, not necessary.

Hard though. I think this booky st. Story i've got, it's not scary. It's the little funny to me.

Anyway, I actually once successfully unplugged a rag mount server from the U. P, S. And IT into a different ups without losing the server.

IT stayed online from me. Drink the power plug from the first ups, which was the battery in IT, had failed, so I needed to be replaced. This was not a dual P.

S. U. machine. There was no redundant anything. I had just bought the new ups, and you got IT all plugged up.

And the only thing left was to migrate the server over. And I wish I could say that, like, again, this was some bad as thing. We couldn't possibly shut down the server.

We totally could have. I was just in a bad mood at the end of the day. And you know, this was A Z fs box, and crashing the power was not going to hurt anything.

There was no load on the machines that, just for Greens, I yanked the plugged out and plugged in into the second one. And to my great shock, when I looked up, I saw the prompt still on the screen. I like, wow. When I started typing and shough, the computer just did not care that for a few million seconds, IT was utterly without power, 马上。

but not really spooky, but one that gave me an an anxiety attack at the time, going all the way back to when I was in high school. My homework was due, and I finished writing my long S A, A and sage on my computer. And then the image of my screen kind of just shot out at me.

And the one who went dark, the monitoring of my computer had just died. So now I couldn't finish my homework or printed and do the next day. So I managed to get hold my neighbor and boring monitor.

But IT turns out this old monitor was older and didn't support the resolution that my computer ran at. IT can only do one hundred by six hundred, not the ten twenty four by seven sixty eight that my monitor has run out for windows ninety eight or whatever. So when you pledged IT in and windows booted up and and ran, it's at its resolution.

IT was just roiling stuff. You couldn't see anything was all just a weird blur of sliding images. And so I knew enough that I booted IT into safe mode, which dumb the graphics down to basic viga hundred by six hundred.

And I could fire a word and finish typing in the essay. But at the whole point of safe mode is no drivers loaded that might be crashing windows and causing out to start. So you couldn't print. So then after I finished writing the whole S A in saving and I had to book back in the windows and blind had to manage to get word to start, open the right file and hit control pee to have a print. I don't actually remember exactly how I did IT, but I did.

putting in the context of home work, reminded me. I said that, you know, that enough on was mostly and ninety thing for me. I had actually started in eighty.

I think IT was the most common for me in the eighties. With eight bit machines, the monitor would die. And it's not like these days like, you know, monitor A T V or the same thing. There's a million of them in your house and you know you can probably just go grab one and dragged over or just you know head write down to whatever store and buy and other one immediately for not a whole lot of money and bring IT there like IT wasn't a vent if your monitor died back in the eighty.

So there were quite a few times i'm recalling now that yeah that was the issue is you that was way back with like an apple two series machine and there would be no monitor and yeah thankfully then no gooey, everything was out of prompt, but yeah, a lot of blind typing. And you figure out like how OK I need to save this data to a floppy, and I can get that fp out, I can take the flup to somebody else's computer, or I can't really just go steal somebody else's monitor. In some cases, the monitor will be built into the computer. And you know, if the monitor died, no, you are just stuck.

Or just like the fact that monitors didn't communicate what resolutions in refresh rates they supported to the computer right now, your computer can tell what resolutions your monitor supports and why when you change the resolution, your computer is, are you okay with this new resolution? Because back in the day, you might not be able to see that message. And that's like count down for ten seconds and then switch back to where you'd actually able to see what was in.

Remember when there is a non zero possibility that changing your resolution would literally fry the monitor?

Yeah especially convening like x linux. And it's like, yeah, you could pick whatever the number you want, but if you pick .

the right one, the magic moke, I come out linux, you pick the right wrong. Yeah, yeah. You could damage some C.

R. S. alright. Well, i've got a story to finish this. That just gets worse and worse than more, more horrific.

The more italian, right? So I went on amazon and I bought a ten terabytes W D elements USB drive, and I got IT delivered, and I opened IT up, shocked IT. As they say.

the acronis is not a horr movie, but a little bit of tape.

However, the relevant pain, so that I would work, plugged IT into my nairs and installed that face on IT and sammon everything. I'm used IT as my nerves for several months. Then one day my wife says to me, then I was making a kind of funny noise the other day, and I said, really, okay. Well, point out on IT. Next happens, and then couple of days go by.

And then I hear this noise.

a tap, tap tapping at my chAmber door. yeah. Clothing as never more.

yeah. And I narrow IT down to the earth, right? I thought, oh, shit, this disk is about to die. I need to replace this.

So I bought another disk a proper on this time, and I put IT in and I just left the other one, and I thought I to see how long until IT dies. And this was probably like two years ago. It's still in there.

And every now, again, IT just does IT. And every night, almost stuff gets backed ups. That dog shocked disk and IT still working.

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I'd like to purchase a few U. P, S. For my home. Lab and work stations are true sign wave ones worth IT, or a regular ones OK. Any brands I should avoid, i'm looking about five hundred, five emps for capacity.

okay. So first up, you absolutely do not need not will you benefit from a true sign wave? U. P, S is in a home lab environment. Those things are extremely expensive and they're Frankly not worth IT for most any digital gear, really, when you want the true sign with stuff is when you've got like any analog meters are like audio stuff in the mix and you want the power to be absolutely as clean as humanly possible. But if you're working with digital stuff, I mean, everything is going through data letters anyway.

And if you've got a problem in the source power that's ugly enough to make IT through the power conditioning in your digital devices power supply, your screwed anyway. So given the massive expense, no, don't do that uh, for the rest of IT brands to avoid or whatever I won't really say brands to avoid. I will say my favorite brand, especially for a home lab environment, is cyber power.

And the reason for that is cyberwar are the only brand of ups i've ever encountered where you can not only disable the nasty perma beeping alarm when your power goes out, but IT actually stores IT in non voluntier storage on the U. P. S.

So that IT remembers that setting. After the power has been out so long, the ups goes flat. This is important because it's usually not that easy to get at that setting.

You usually have to connect A A real computer via USB cable, install some dodging software, tell that, and if you're very lucky, which you're usually not, and then you can go through some horses text menu based thing to ultimately mute your device. And hopefully have to remember for a while, if you do that with any other brand. If you let that ups go all the way, flat IT will have forgotten.

And the next time your power goes out. But the cyber powers at my house is packed chock full love. And ever since I discovered that cyber power was the brand that would stay permitted, IT has been an enormous boom for me because I no longer dread the power out age when I have to listen to all that crap beat on all over the house at two in the morning.

I mostly have the abc american power of ter one because of that costco had on sale. Likely they are not as bad of what the baby is, jim said. There's a button with a speaker with a slash through IT. If you press IT, it'll stop. And if you hold IT for three or four seconds.

it'll make A B.

And remember not to do til battery es. I did IT might forget that and that can be a bit annoying. But yeah, not that picky about IT. I will say definitely worth having considering the number of people i've seen who've like blown a power supply in their computer first is that never happens to my computers because they're buying the ups. IT really does seem to make a big difference in the lifetime of everything in the computer and just the general quality of function. I've also heard IT click in and decide to run up battery for a couple seconds when the lights of flicker or the dim, or you know, something else happened in the neighborhood, that modified stuff, and as a death key, is also nice to just be able to see exactly how many votes are actually coming out of the wall because, you know, we talk about of being like one hundred or one twenty year, whatever. But even at my house, i've seen IT literally range from one twelve to one twenty sex.

I've seen one of five to turn near one thirty. And any number of places in the mining and north amErica yeah and in the U.

K. Is nominally two thirty, but it's really too forty. But i've seen like up to nearly two fifty and down in the two twenty.

So IT does very a lot. Kyle says he's looking at around fifteen hundred role apps. Presume do you need a bit of head drom?

There is a decent amount head drom for a couple of pcs on each one. When I had my rack, I was running the whole thing of two or three of those. But you know that you can get much more than that on a regular fifteen outlet in north america. Anyway.

that is absolutely correct.

There is a reason why that's about the biggest size you get in the kind of home office shaped ones like minds. The uh M A B C backup PS fifty hundred g and that is a about the biggest are going to get in that style because it's a boat as much as you can put through one Normal fifteen APP circuit.

Given that Allen already given you the number for how many apps can run to the circuit, quick math was one hundred times fifteen. It's fifteen hundred.

So you're not getting much more power than that out of a standard, not only a standard outlet like a single plug, like the whole thing, and not only that double game probably outlet in your world, but the entire circuit that is on which in most american homes is probably gonna be anywhere from, you know, five to six separate outlets. So fifty volt up is is pretty beefy for home abuse. Now the other thing that I mentioned about this is that I would strongly recommend get your wifi on that U.

P, S as well. I see most people put their computer on the U. P, S, and they just ignore their poor writer. And you know any wifi access point that might have. And as result, the computer might stay up when the power goes out, but they lose internet access.

Now if you put your wifi router and door access points also behind the ups, most frequently when your power goes out, the I S P is still up, which means that if you've got that stuff on the U. P S, your phones, your tablets, know your, what have you? You're still got internet. And that can make an enormous difference in like how much human level misery you, as the edman of your house, have to deal with when your spouse, kids, roommates, whoever, or walk around whining about how they can .

get a facebook yeah, if you have a fifty hundred full tip, U. P, S. And even if you have just one computer and monitor on IT, you're only looking at fifteen, twenty four minutes of power on time. If the black has longer, that you're really going to want your phone to still have the internet.

On other hand, if you put you a serious ups, I am more frequently amusing. Twelve hundred, seventeen than fifteen. But IT really doesn't matter that much because honestly, when you take him apart, typically the twelve hundred and fifteen hundred and even frequently than nine hundred volt pups, they all got the same battery inside.

The difference is not in how many empowers you've got on the battery to run things for how long. It's literally just in the maximum amount of power IT can supply in any given second. But point being, if you get a big hawk in ups and not the little tiny, tiny st. One that you can find and you put that behind nothing but your networking here, router, maybe a switch, maybe some wifi access points you'll discover that may stay up for, yeah, an hour, a half, two hours during a power outage, which again, can improve your quality of life tremendously.

Dep, again, I have a twelve hundred full time, one that I got a costco sitting in my laundry room and all that does this power the wifi, the switches, the modems and all that kind of stuff to keep the network and the the wifi and the internet working during the power age. And yeah, it's the one little last hours because you know the switch in the modem hole like five watts first is the computer that's pulling hundreds of whats in.

The last thing i'll mention on this because it's not that obvious to a lot of folks. If you've got separate wifi access point, it's you know like are the T P links that we recommend here a lot. You whatever, put those behind A P O E switch because that means you can run five, twenty, whatever of these access points off of the power, that single switch off of a single ups, rather than have to run around all your, run around your entire and you know, set up like five different ups s each with one access point plugged into IT. That sucks that too much money to spin, but you don't have to do that if .

your nurse is in the same place as as the network care is IT OK to stick up on one ups? Or would you always recommend of a separate one for the network IT just .

depends on how much time you want. Uh, your nas is typically in the pull considerably more power than your network only you are will is just the nature of storage and also the nature of typically harder compute and most nice devices. But again, if you're OK with that, if you're like, well, we need about to have an our time.

I'll see what you can get and you can usually estimate that pretty well. No, yank the plug out of the wall for your U. P.

S. Well, all the stuff you ve got plugging into IT is turned on. Your U.

P. S. Will give you typically as if it's a new U. P. S. The older ones get a bit more rope with the estimates, but it'll give you an estimated run time. And you can say, well, I do like this amount runtime or I don't like this amount of run time. If you don't like IT, add more U P, S.

And should you be running that battle down period and charging IT back up again? Or is IT Better to just leave IT charged up all the time.

just let IT be. If the firm where wants to to do weird stuff with discharge cycles, the firm where can and will do that for itself. But it's just not usually a very big concern, especially considering .

the lifecycle of the battery like the battery is only last a couple of years. And so that would be the one other thing I would suggest, especially here, anything that's not like an A B C or uh, cyberwar like jim s. Pensioning, is look at how difficult is going to be to get replacement batteries a couple years from now, depending on the device. Sometimes it's almost depart to just find a do ups on sale and IT is to get a replacement battery. But you know, i've had good luck getting abc replacing batteries from third party vendors.

And so same as I repower, in fact, I think they take the same batteries .

almost a entirely likely. Yes, they're just a pretty plain old let as a battery is just IT has the right farm factor in the right connector in order to actually work.

The other fun fact about that, we will discover the first time you changing with these batteries. If you get a larger U P S know one hundred, five hundred and whatever, it's usually actually not a single battery. It's usually two batteries and they're taped together on the inside, which is not that immediately.

Obviously, you take IT apart. But if you're just looking for the thing that looks like the thing you'd then you want up timing. You're like, I can't find this battery anywhere. So little, little closer. Make sure it's not two different batteries literally tape together because that's usually what IT is. In which case you're actually looking for do replacment batteries and you can decide whether to tape or two together or just put him in there and connect the electrical bits and have done with IT.

yeah. On the A P. C S, the two batteries ies are stuck together with a sticker on each side, one red, one Green, to actually put IT in the right way around because they ship IT with the battery the wrong way around. So I can't power on that sticker. Also has the tab is how you can pull the battery out of the .

ups easily and it's probably best not to just start in the bin when you change .

IT for the new wana. Yes, please do use the instruction and recycled the same as you like a car battery, whatever, because IT is full of native let s. So yeah.

is a let asa battery same chemistry. Is a car battery incredibly environmental talks. Ic, if you don't dispose of IT properly.

I also have A A very large U P. S. For iraq. So it's got a thirty m two forty four twice lock connector and is six thousand four temps. So it's I think three you in the rack and there is a second three you second battery that both into IT to give you a bit more run time, but with a rack full of servers, the run time is not all that high. But IT is certainly back to jose question about running your nas on the same ups as your wifi and so on.

The one thing you can do there, if your U P S supports the U S, B connection of whatever is, use something like U, P, S, D to have the nz be like OK. The powers were out for more than sixty seconds. I'm gonna shut down so that the rest of the battery can be left for the networking year.

The final thing that i'll mention is if you're not Allen, don't be Allen. Don't put a gigantic, incredibly expensive rac. mt. ups. You had a special order and took a week or two to arrive in your iraq in your home lab because we are going to find is one day IT won't power on and you're going to have to plug all your crap straight into the wall because you can't just run down to the store and grab another one to put IT in.

I can't tell you how many times I have ripped out reg muted ups s in small business environments even because, well, I had to any way to get them running that day because they had the special regnat ups they paid an armed leg for and took forever to get in. And IT would have been a weaker to to replace IT. Whether I could just drive straight down of the office depot by three or four of those fifteen hundred vote and pups is for less money than they spent on the one rack mount, drop those sitting on a shelf side by side in iraq, plug over gear into IT. And it's the same capacity or more for a lot less money. And you can literally just drive down to the store and buy another one whenever anyone of talks out there for a long time.

But then the amount of gear in the rat cut to the point where there weren't enough fifteen APP circus within reach. So doing a two forty thirty amp circuit into the room made more sense. And because it's such a stupid, sly overpressed U.

P. S. IT has a bypass mode so that even if he goes completely dead, IT has a physical switch that makes the power to go around at the broken ups.

How much you spend on that .

ups on a lot. And i'm not looking forward to the day when the batteries need to be replaced and that day is coming relatively soon. The devices are started. Sending me alert is like, well, these batteries are four years old now you realize, right.

you hear how he doesn't want to call up an actual number.

Don't be Allen folks. To be fair.

I am really not being negative toward to Allen here, make a lot of money off the gear in his house, which makes IT a lot more feasible to talk about this kind of thing. It's not the same kind of will. It's just a home lab world like I learned and I tinker with stuff that most of our listeners are going to have. If you're making a tony money off of the stuff in your home and that makes more sense for you, then that makes more sense and do IT. I'm just I want to make sure that people don't make the mistake of bite enough more they can then they can chew with .

this stuff yeah especially to jims point is you might get offered. One of these rack out ups is that somebody's getting rid of don't fall for that. It's a money pit. Just get the the best half ones from costco, you will be much happier.

I would also like a point out that occasionally U. P, S is catch on fire. I have had that happen to me three times over the course, my career, two of those times. This was the desk top style ups, which is really easy to just unplugged out of the wall and run outside and like dumped on the ground. However, when it's a two hundred and sixty pound team live right ups, it's a whole lot scarier dragon that thing out and getting IT out of the frequent building where IT won't burn you down, especially if you happen to be in that office alone on a weekend, having just mounted the thing in iraq all by yourself, despite all the team lift everywhere. So personal war story, don't be a gym either.

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