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they get smaller, right? I think people do respect you more. We have .

a big camera for somebody pay.

Ah you said that you love winning and you have one a lot in life in a real state, in business and T V, in politics. So let me stay with the mine, said a psychology question. What drives you more the love of winning or the hate of losing?

Maybe equally, maybe both. I don't like losing and I do like winning. I've never thought of IT is too, which is more for driving force.

You've been close with a lot of the grades in sport. You think about tiger words, mohamed ali, you have people like Michael Jordan, who I think hate losing more than anybody. So what do you learn from those guys?

Well, they do have something different. You know, the great champions have something very different, like the sports champions. And you know, you have champions and other fields, but you see IT more readily in sports. You see IT over a weekend, you see IT during a game.

And you say that certain people stand out and they keep they keep standing out, but it's there for you IT doesn't take a lifetime to find out that somebody was a winner or a loser. And so the sports thing is very interesting. But um you know I played g off with different people and um you have this is a different mindset among champions is really very different mindset.

This is a different uh there's A A different thought process. You know talent wih sometimes you can tell the difference in talent, but at the end of the weekend, they seemed to win and it's very interesting like as an example, a tiger or jack nicless, he was phenomenal winner and he does have a different way about him and tiger has a different way about him. And Michael Jordan, and there's never one you would think that, that would be one way on.

Our palmer was the nicest guy you'd ever meet. And then you have some champions that aren't really nice. They're just focused on doing their job. Uh, so you have you know, there's not one type of person, but the one thing I I would say that everybody seems to have in common as they are very driven. They driven like beyond.

They don't seem to give up easily.

They don't give up. They don't give up, but they do seem to be a you know they have a passion that maybe more than people that don't do as well.

You've said that politics is a dirty game.

Yeah a dirty game that certain to ah .

so this is a game. How do you win at that game?

What you win that game by getting the water and by using sense, you have to have a feeling. Where's going? You also have to have a feeling of what's right. You can't necessarily just go what's popular.

You have to do what's good for a country if you're talking about countries or but you you have to get the word out and you have to just continuous IT. Like for instance, you have a great show, you have a great podcast. It's very well watched and i'm sitting here and I do this.

A lot of people see IT and I do other things and a lot of people see that and I go traditional also and I have traditional television, which is getting a little bit um older and maybe less significant could be less significant, I don't know, but it's changing about the the the whole plane of of platform is changing a lot is changing a lot in the last two, three years. But from a political standpoint, you have to find out what people are doing, what they're watching, and you have to get IT, you have to get on. I just see that these platforms are starting to dominate the getting very big numbers.

I did spaces with elon and they got numbers like nobody he's ever heard before. So you know this is ah you wouldn't do that on like radio. You wouldn't do that those numbers no matter how how good to show you wouldn't those numbers on ready to you went do a man television?

You've been successful in business. You've been successful in politics. What you think is the difference between um gaining success between the two, the two different desperate .

worlds and different, very different. I have a lot of people that are in business that is successful and they'd like to go over the politics and then you realize I can speak, they joke. You know, it's hard to make a speech in front of that.

You will say you're talking about a big audience, but I get very big audiences and you know for many people is virtually impossible to get up and speak for. And now and I have and have nobody leave, you know, it's not an easier thing to do and it's in ability. But I have many people that are very, very successful in business would love to do what I did and yet they can pull the trigger.

And in many cases, I I don't think go to work almost, almost for everybody's second work is very it's a very tough thing to do is a big transition. And now if you talked about people in the business in politics going into business likewise, that wouldn't generally work out so well either. It's different talents, difference else.

I have somebody wants to go into politics so bad, but it's got a little problem, is got stage right now is a total killer. But if he gets up into a stage in front of people, he doesn't do well, to put IT mildly. Actually, I mean, he does badly.

So you have to be able to make hard decisions like you do in business, but also be able to captivate an audience.

Look, if you're a politician, you have to be able to speak in front of large crowds there. A lot of people can do that. I've seen IT. They can even think about doing that and they don't. There are many people in business right now I could name me, but I don't want to embarrass body.

They've been talking about running for president for fifteen years, and they are very big in business, very well known and actually and but IT takes guts to run, like for president. I can tell you IT takes guts to run. It's also a very dangerous profession if you want another truth.

But uh, dangerous in a different sense too. But IT takes a lot of couple to run for presidents. Easy, but you have and you know same people as I do. There are a lot of people that would like to run for president that are very, very successful in business, but they don't have the guts to do IT and they have to give up a lot.

One of the great things about people from the business world is there are often great deal makers. And you're a great deal maker. And you've talked about the war, ukraine, and that you would be able to find a deal that both putin and lansky would accept. What you think that deal looks like?

I think the deal and I I wouldn't talk about too much because I think I can make a deal if if I win as president, delete, i'll have a deal made. guaranteed. That's a war that shouldn't happened is terrible.

Look, biden is the worst president in the history of our country, and she's probably worse than him. That's that's something that should have never happened. But IT did happen and now is much tougher er deal to make that I would have been before I started millions of people.

I think the numbers are going to be a lot higher when you see this all at some point to iron out. I think the numbers are going to be the death numbers are going to be a lot higher than people. When you take a look at the destruction and the buildings coming down all over the place in ukraine, I think those numbers are going to be a lot here.

They lie about the numbers. They try and keep on low. They knocked down a building these two blocks along. These are big buildings.

And they say, one person was maddy, injured now now a lots of people were killed and there are people in those buildings and they have no chance. Once they start coming down, there is no chance. So so um that's a war that absolutely has to get done.

And then you have israel, and then you have a lot of other places that are talking war. The world is is a rough place right now and a lot of its because of the fact that amErica has no leadership. And I believe that you'll be probably worse than by now. Watching interview the other night, I mean, was just a self ball interview.

so you would like to see her do more interviews, chAllenge more.

I don't know. I can't believe the whole thing is happening. We had a man in there that should have never been in there.

They kept him in a basement. They use cove IT. They cheated, but they used covey to cheat. And they cheated without cove IT too.

But, uh, you had somebody in there, and now we have a woman that is not, I think he can do an interview. This was a really soft interview. This is an interview where they given a multiple choice uh, questions, multiple guess. I got a multiple guess and um I don't think you did well. I think you did very poorly.

How do you think you'll do in the debate coming up in a few days?

So done a lot of debating only as a politician I never debated. My first debate was the rosio nal debate, famous rosio donal debate the answer um but i've done well with the bat. I mean, I became president then the second time.

I got millions mobs and I got the first time. So I was told, if I got sixty three million, which is what I got the first time, you, you, you would win. You can not want when.

And I get millions of more ways than that and lost by a whisker. But I look what happened to the world with all of the wars and all of the problems, and I look what happened with inflation. Because inflation just eating up our country, eating IT up.

So it's too bad. But there are lot of things that could happen. We have to get those words settled. We have to get you have to get ukraine and you that could end up in a third world or so could the middle. So could the middle.

So maybe i'll talk about what IT takes to negotiate with somebody like pozen sky. Do you think pud would be willing to give up any of the .

regions already captured? I don't know. I can tell you that this all of this would have never happened and I would been very easy because you don't have like that question wouldn't be as know that's a tough a question once that starts happening because he has taken over a lot of character and now I get their insurgents now too, right? So the sillar bit interesting, uh, that that's happening and that I can happen.

And it's interesting that put in has allowed that to happen. Look, that's one that should shoud never started. We have to get A.

Stepped ukraine is being demolished there. They're destroying a great culture that's largely destroy IT. What do you .

think works Better in those kinds of negotiations? Leverage of let's a friendship, the character of the stick friendship or sort of the threat of using the economic .

and military power so that everyone's different negotiations. Interesting because IT depends on the person is and then you have to guess or know through certain knowledge, which is, you know more important, the Carrier, the stick. And with some people it's stick in with some people is a cat.

I think that the stick probably is generally more successful and that you know we're talking about war, but the kind of destruction that we're witnessing now, nobody he's ever seen, I mean it's it's a terrible thing and and we're witnessing at all, witnessing in um in all parts of the world. And a lot of things are going to get started and look what's going on with china. Look at japan.

They started to rearm. Now they started to rearm because chinese getting you are taking over certain islands. And um there's a lot of danger in the war right now.

The world there's a lot of and there's a great possibility of world war three. And we Better to get this thing done fast because five months with people like her and him, he's checked out. He just goes to the beige, thinks he looks good on a bathing, so which he doesn't.

He sort of, jack, hello, you know, you can't blame him if that was a coup. They took IT over. They took over the presidential deal. The whole presidential thing was taken over in a cool. He had fourteen million people, had no votes, that one.

And nobody thought I was gonna heard and nobody wanted to be her SHE was a joke until six weeks ago when they said we're going to have to politically, they felt they had a picker. And if they didn't pick her, they thought they be a problem. I don't know that's right, and I actually don't think it's right. But you know, they thought I was right. And now immediately the press comes to their aid.

if we can go back to china on negotiation, how do we avoid war with china in the twenty first century?

Well, there ways. Now, here's the problem, if I tell you how, and i'd love to do IT, but if I, if I give you a plan, like I have a very exacting plan, had this up ukraine and russia. And I have a certain idea, maybe not a plan, but an idea for china because we do we going to learn a lot of trouble.

They'll be a lot of trouble too, but we aren't a lot of trouble. But I can't give you those plans because if I give you those plans, i'm not to be able use and theyll be very unsuccessful part of his surprise, right? right? But they won't be able to help us much.

So you have a plan of what to say to .

butin you take office? no. Had a very good relationship with him and had a good relationship with zille skii too, but had a very good relationship with button.

Tough topic, but important, he said, lost by a whisker. I'm an independent. I have a lot of friends who are independent, many of whom, like your policies, like the fact of your deal maker, like the fact that you can and words, but they are troubled by what happened twenty twenty election and statements about widespread fraud and this kind of stuff, fake or actor scheme. What can you say to those independent voters to help them decide who vote?

right? I think the flood was the other side. I think the election was the fraud, and many people filter was that, and they wanted answers.

And when you can't chAllenge an election, you have to be able to chAllenge IT. Otherwise it's gonna worse, not Better. And there are lots of ways to solve this problem.

Go to paper baLance and do a easy way in the paper baLance. And I have voter I D, and you have same day voting and you have proof of citizenship, which is very import because we have people voting that are not citizens. They just came in and they're loading up in the payroll, they'll loading up everything.

They're putting students in schools, I don't speak a word of english, and they're taking the seats of people that are citizens of our country. So look, we have the worst border in the history of the world. We have coming into our country right now millions and millions of people at levels that nobody he's ever seen.

I don't believe any countries ever seen IT. And they would use sticks and stones not to make that happen, not to let that happen. Don't we don't do anything.

And we have a person who was the borders, who now said he wasn't really the borders are, but he was, he was the borders up, but he was in charge of the border. And we have her and she's saying a very strong little, I did such a good up. He is horrible, horrible the the harm she's done.

But we are people coming in from other countries all over the world, not just south america, and they're coming in from prisons and jails. They are coming in from mental institutions and insane slums. And they are street criminals right off the street.

They take up and they're being given to our country. Drug dealers, human traffickers were destroying our country. This is a sin.

What's been allowed to take place over the last four years. We're destroying our country and we'll see how that all works out. But it's not even believable.

And now you see you so, 嗯， aora, colorado, a group of very tough Young thugs from taking over big areas, including buildings. They are taking over buildings. They have their big rifles, but they're taking over buildings. When that can let this happen, when I can let them destroy our country, and you know, when those countries crime is way down and they are taking amount of their prisons, which is good, because good for them.

I do the same thing, by the way, if I ran one of those countries, any country in the world, I would make sure that amErica is, every one of our prisoners, every one of our criminals would be here. I can't believe they are going so slowly, but someone, and but they all are doing IT. And we can let that happen. They're empty out their prisons and their mental institutions into the united states of america. We can't let that happen.

So a lot of people believe that there was some shadie stuff that went on with the election, whether it's a media bias or big tech. But still the the claim of widespread fraud is a thing that bothers people.

Well, I don't focus on the past. I focus on the future. I mean, I talk about how the economy is, how bad inflation is, not bad things like um which is important.

Afghanistan was in my opinion the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to our country. And because of that, I think put in one. And when he said that, stupid we were, putin win.

But IT IT was the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. I really believe that. But, you know, we left.

We left thirteen dead soldiers. Think of the thirteen dead soldiers. Many soldiers horrifically hurt with arms and legs, and everything else gone.

We left hostages behind. We left americans behind. We left military equipment, the likes of which nobody y's ever left behind before billions and billions of dollars of equipment.

Then they are selling the equipment. They, one of the largest arms dealers in the world. And um very sad, very sad. And you know we were for a long time, I was going to get out, we getting ready to get out and we got interrupted by the election. But we would have been out with dignity, strength.

We will have a very little problem with the taliban when I was there, because they knew I was going bit tough. I deal with abdul, abdul with the leader, and we got a long fine, he understood. But, you know, they were shooting.

They were killing a lot of our people before I came down. And when I got there, I said I spoke to a message, can do, don't do that anymore. We went eighteen months before this happened. This horrible day happened. We went eighteen months, and nobody was shot and killed.

What you think that was the character of the stick, in that case in ghana, stan, the definitely that the threat of military force .

that was the stake and doesn't have to be, but that was the stake.

Well, let me just linger on the election a little, a little bit more for this selection. IT might be a close one. What can we do to avoid the insanity division of the previous election, whether you win or lose?

Well, hope it's not at last one. I I know I do not help. People can vote for somebody that is destroyed, our country, the inflation, the bad economy.

But but to me, in a way, the worst is what they've allowed to happen in our border or where they've allowed millions of people to come in here from places that you don't want to know about. And I can't believe that that's going to be a close election. You know we're leading in the polls, but and IT looks less. But I think in the end is that can a bit less election what you think is .

the right way to solve the immigration crisis is mass deportation. One of the solutions you will think about.

you get the the criminals out here fast. Ah you know the people from mental institutions, you got to get back into their mental situation. No country can afford this.

Here is just too much money. You look at what's happening in new york and chicago and L A. And lots of places.

And you take a look at what's happening, there's no country can afford this. We can afford that. And we've got to get the bad ones out immediately. And the rest have to be worked on what happened before a one dies.

And ha was sort of a moderate president, moderate type president, but he hated when he saw people boring into the country, and they were nothing like now, you know, I probably got elected in twenty sixteen because of the border, and I told people was happening and they understood IT. And I won the election, and I won the election. I think because of the border, our border is twenty five times worse right now that I was in twenty sixteen, I had IT fixed to.

I added the last week of my, the famous chart that I put up was exactly that. You know, the chart, when I looked to the right, this is the church being a that was not a pleasant, but the charge that I put upset. And that was done by border patrol. That was the lowest number that we've ever had come into a country in recorded history, and we have to get back to that again. We will let me ask about .

project twenty twenty five. So you've publicly said that you don't have any .

direct connection to I know nothing about and know that the. Great, know that. And I purpose sly haven't read IT because I want to say to you, I don't I have no idea what to think about.

It's easier than saying I read IT then you know all of the things. No, I purpose sly haven't read IT and i've heard about that. I heard about things that are in there that I don't like.

And there are some things in there that everybody would like, but there are things that I don't like at all. And I think it's unfortunate that they put IT out, but IT doesn't mean anything because has nothing to do with me. Project twenty five has IT has really nothing to do with me.

You posted recently about marijuana and that you're okay with that being legalized, but IT has to be done safely. Can you explain your policy there when .

I just put out a paper, and first of all, medical marijuana has been amazing. I've had friends and i've had others and doctors telling me that it's been absolutely amazing, the medical marijuana, and we put out a statement that we can live with the marijuana. It's going to be a certain age, going to be a certain age to buy in.

It's got to be done in a very concerned lawfull way. And the way they do in florida, I think it's gonna actually good. It's GTA be very good, but it's going to be done in a good way.

It's going to be done in a clean way. You go to some of these places, like in new york at all, IT smells marijuana. You can the way you've got ta have a system with this control. And I think the way they've done in a food is very good.

Do you know anything about psychiatric? So i'm i'm not a drug guy, but everything did I asked yeah and there's a lot of people that speak to sort of the health benefits and the spiritual benefits of these different syc delicate, I think, would probably have a Better world if everybody in congress took some mushrooms perhaps now I know you don't you stay away from all of that stuff. Um I and also veterans use IT for a dealing with P T, S, D. It's great. And it's interesting that you're thinking about being more accepting of some of these drugs, which don't just have a recreational purpose, but uh, a medical purpose.

treatment purpose. So we put out a statement today, we to put another one probably the next week more specific, although I think it's pretty specific. And well, we'll see that go.

That's a referendum coming up in some states, but it's coming up and we'll see how he does. I will say it's been very hard debated. You take a look at the numbers. It's been very hard debated. So I think IT will generally pass, but you want to do IT in a safe way.

speaking a marijuana. Let me ask you about my good friend joe rogan. You had a bit attention with him. So when he said nice things about our afra junior, I think you said i'm not so nice things about joe. I think that was a bit unfair.

And as a fan of jail, I would love to see you do this by cast, because he is legit. The greatest conversation is in the world. So what's the story behind attention?

I don't attention, and I always like him, but I don't know. I mean, i've only seen when I walk into the arena with dana and I shake his hand, I seem there and I think he's good. What he does, but I don't know about doing, is pakistan. I guess I do IT, but I haven't been asking. I'm not asking them, you know, i'm not asking anybody.

Sounds like a chAllenging negotiations situation.

No, it's not really a negotiation. And he's sort of a liberal guy, I guess, you know, from what I understand. But he likes Kennedy.

This was before I found this out, before Kennedy came in with us. He's gona be great. He's done, but she's gonna be great.

But I like that he likes Kennedy. Dy, I do to, you know, it's a different kind of a guy, but he's got some great things going. And I think he's gonna be be on politics. I think he could be quite influential in taking care of some situations that you probably would agree should be taken care of.

The georgian poses an example. I'd love to get your psychology a about behind the tweet and the post on truth. Are you sometimes being intentionally provocative or you just speaking your mind and other times when you regret some of the truth you've posted?

Yes, I do remember not that of you know I do a lot of reposting the one you get in trouble without the repost because you find down deep there are into some group that um you are not supposed to be reposting.

You don't even know those groups are good, Better and different but the repose are the ones that really get you in trouble when you do your own words, it's sort of easier but the repost go very quickly and if you're going to check every single little symbol and um I don't know, it's worked out pretty well from italian. Truth is very powerful truth and it's my platform and it's been very powerful, very, very power of that goes everywhere I call on my typewriter. You know that's actually my typewriter.

What are you doing usually when you're composing a truth like a chilling back on a couch.

couches, beds.

different things I mean like late at night and .

just i'd like to do so later you know i'm not a huge slipper but whenever do um you know past like three at luck they criticize the next day trip was up truth okay truth is truth a three at lock in the morning and there should be no problem with that and then when you think about times and how they know the year, like you know in a time zone like an eastern zone, so but but every time I do IT after like two or three eight clock, it's like, why is he doing that? But it's gotten all the truth.

Has become a very successful platform. And I like doing IT and IT goes everywhere. So as I do IT IT goes everywhere.

the country seems more divided than ever. Yeah, what can you do to help alleviate some of .

that division where you can get rid of people? They're terrible. They are terrible.

You don't want to have them running this country and not equipped run a joe, just joe is a disaster. okay? And camera, I think you end up being worse than him. We'll see, I think, a lets now you know the conventions over with and I see on leading and just about all the polls, they had their little honeyman periods in colon and we'll see how that all goes to know.

For my personal opinion, I think you are your best when you are talking about a positive vision of the future versus criticizing the other side.

Yeah, I think you have to criticize though. I think I think they're nasty. They came up with a story that I looked down and I call soldiers who died in world were one suckers and losers.

Okay, now, number one, who would say that? Number two, who would say to military people, nobody who was a made up, sorry, just a made up sorry. And they like to repeat IT over.

They always made up. I have twenty six witnesses that nothing was said. They don't want to hear about that.

Like SHE lied on mcDonalds. He said that that he worked at mcDonalds. It's not a big lie, but it's a big lie. So you mean they just went in the jack and unless you can show something they don't talk about, the presses are going to follow up with you. But I i'll keep camera ing IT.

But SHE never worked at mcDonald, who was just a sort of a cool thing to say, hey, I worked at mcDonald's know um but one of the words was two days ago I went to arling ten, the request of the people that lost their children. They'll always be children to those people you understand that does not politically incorrectly to say the mother comes up. I lost my child, but you know, the child is a soldier and lost the child because of biden and because of kala as just as though they had a gun in their hand because he was so badly handled.

IT should have been done at background, which is the big airbase. IT should have been done at a small little airport right in the middle of town where people stormed that. IT was a true disaster. And they ask me if I come and celebrate with them. Three years, three years, died three years ago and I said, i'm going to track I get to know them because I brought them here.

Actually one night they they almost all came here and they said, I wonder if trip will actually currency as I heard that we here I came said, so we saved for like four hours listening to music up in a deck right upstairs. beautiful. And they were great people.

So they call me over the last couple of weeks and they said, we're going to have a reunion or three. Would you be able to come IT was very hard for me to do IT logistically, but I said i'll get IT done. And I got there and we had a beautiful time.

I didn't run away. I didn't know. I am just walk and check cancer, walk out like people do.

And I wasn't looking at my watch like joe biden is. And IT was amazing. So I didn't for them.

I didn't for me. I don't need the publicity. I mean, I get more publicity probably than anybody. You would know that Better than me, but I think maybe more than anybody, maybe more than anybody that's ever lived, I don't know, but I don't think he would could have anymore.

Every time you turn on television, this is like nine different stories, all on different topics, and the world about. As an example, you went to view a lot of people, good people, successful people. Let's see how you do with this set of view versus them. OK. I can tell you right now, you're going to get diest numbers you've ever had by sometimes a factor of ten.

But but um when a gold star family asks me to come in and spend time with them and then they said, sir, we did a ceremony and then we went down to the graves, which was quite a this is way they said, sir, would you come to the grave and then they said, when we were there, very sad actually, because these people shouldn't have died. They shouldn't have died. They died because of biden and because of koala.

They died because it's just like if they pulled the trigger. okay. I don't know that controversial to say, but I don't think IT is afghanistan was the most incompetently I think i've ever seen military or otherwise, they in component.

But the families asked me if I go. I did go. Then the family said, could we have a picture at the tombstone of my son? And we did son or daughter.

There was a daughter too, and I took numerous pictures with the families. I don't know anybody else that was in the pictures, but there were mostly families. I guess that was IT.

And then I left. I I spent later time with. Then I left, and I get home that night and I get a call that the biden administration with camera is accusing me of using our lanton for a publicity.

Amazon is just the opposite, just the opposite. And and actually, did you see that? I just came out. The families actually put out a very strong step defending me. They said, we ask them to be there .

where politicians in the media can play those games. And you're right, your name gets a lot of use. You probably legit the most famous person in the world. But on a previous thing, in the spirit of unity, you used to be a democrats. Setting the politicians aside, what do you respect most about people who left, who are democrats themselves, or of their persuading, progressive liberals and so on?

Well, I look, I respect the fact that everybody is in there. And you know, to certain extent, life is what you do while you're waiting to die, say you matters. We'll do a good job.

I think in terms of what's happening now, I think, you know, we have a chance to save the country. This country is going down. And I call IT with then as well.

I call IT IT with a lot of different countries, and this country is going down if we don't win this election. The election coming up on november fifth is the most important election this county ever had. Because if we don't win IT, I don't know that y'll be another election and it's gonna a communist country or loss.

Is a lot of people listening to this, myself included, that doesn't think that coma is a communist.

Uh, well, she's a marx's.

her her father's a marx's and she's .

addition she's advice .

for some policies that are towards the direction of a democratic s socials that say, but there is a lot of people that kind of know the way government works and they say, well, none of those policies are going to actually come. The reality is just being used during the campaign to, you know, grocery is are too expensive. We need them cheaper. So lets talk about Price controls and that's never gonna come to reality.

IT could come to reality. Look, I mean, he came out with Price control. It's been tried like one hundred and twenty one different times at different places over the years.

And IT never worked once IT IT leads to communism. IT leads to socialism. IT leads to having no food on the shelves, and IT leads to tremendous inflation.

Is just a bad .

idea whenever .

we use terms like coming ism for her. And I know if you know this, but some people call you.

yeah, they do. So I figured the right to call them to come. And yeah, they call me a lot worse than .

I call that they do indeed. And .

it's time. Then i'll hit them back. And this season, a terrible what trump said, I said for IT, they just call me.

So I believe you have to fight fire with fire. I believe there are evil people. These are evil people. You know, we have an enemy from the outside, and we have an enemy from within, and in my opinion, the enemy from within, a radical left loona tics. And I think you have to fight .

back whenever there is a lot of fighting fire with fire. It's too easy to forget that there is a middle of amErica that is a moderate and kind of seize the good in both sides and just likes one side more than the other. In terms of policies, like I said, there's a lot of people that like your policies, like your skill and being able to negotiate and end wars and they don't see the the impending destruction of america.

You know, we had no wars when I was president as a big thing, not in seventy eight years as that happened, but we had no words when I was present. We defeated. I is.

But they were. That was a word that we started, that we weren't anywhere near defeating. But think of what I had, no words.

And vict urban, the prime minister hungry, said, the world has have trump back because everybody was afraid of trump. Ed, now that's what he said. So i'm not using the temple, but I think they're respected me.

But he said, china was afraid, russia was afraid. Everybody was afraid. And I don't care where they use IT.

Probably that's even a Better word if you want another truth. But let's use the word respect that they had respect for me. They had respect for the country.

I mean, I ended the north stream to pipeline, the russian pipeline. Nobody else could have done that. I ended a ruse that then biking comes and gave IT.

He approved IT. So we're defending german in these other countries for peanut s compared to what is worth. And they are paying the person with defending him against billions and billions of hours for energy.

I said, how does that work? And we had IT there with them. And what they are, good.

And they paid bill. They paid hundreds of billions of downers. You would never even have a nature, right? You wouldn't have neither if I wasn't .

for me as the leader, the united states, you were the most powerful man in the world, as you mentioned, not only the most famous, but the most powerful. And if you become leader again, you will have unperceptive power just on you, your own personal psychology. What is that power due to? Is there any thread of a corrupting how you see the world?

No, I look, i've been there for four years. Um I could have done a big number in hillaton. I thought I look terrible to take the presidentship wife and put her in prison.

She's so lucky. I didn't do anything. She's so lucky. Hill is a lucky woman, because add a lot of people pushing me too. They wanted to, they wanted to see something.

But I had, I could have done something very bad. I thought, IT looks so big. Think of that.

You have the present of the unites, and you all such secretary state, right? He was. But you gonna the president's wife in prison.

Any yet? When I got out there, you know, they have all these hoaxes. There are hookers, but they have all these designer talks. Is just like I did in the pets with russia, russia, russia. I was a hook's, the fifty one different, you know, agencies or agents, that was a hoax.

The whole thing was that the whole, there were so many hopes and scams, and but I didn't want to put her in jail, and I didn't. And I explained that the people, you know, they say, luka, luka IT doesn't. We won.

I said, we don't want to put her in jail. We want to bring the country together. We want to bring the country together.

You don't bring the country together by putting her in jail. But then when I got out, you know, they went to work on me. It's, it's amazing.

And they suffer from massive trumped arrangements. And T, D, S. And I don't know, there is curable from the same point.

A lot of people have varying ged in footage of ufos. The, the pentagon has released a few videos, and there's been anecdo reports from fighter pilots. A lot of people wants to know, will you help push the pentagon to release more footage, which a lot of people claim is available?

Oh yeah, sure. I do that. I would do that.

I'd love to do that. I have to do that. But they also appreciate me on Kennedy. And I did release a lot, but I had people come to me and beg me not to do. But i'll be doing that very early on um yeah no, but I would do that.

There's a moment when you had a about releasing.

I don't get that. I mean i'm not involved. I never went to his ireland um fortunately, but a lot of people did.

Why do you think so many smart, powerful people allowed him to get so close? He .

was a good salesman. He was who hail and hearty type of guy. He has some nice assets that he thrown around like islands. But a lot of big people went to that island. Unfortunately, I was not one of them.

Is just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public.

Yeah IT is very interesting as that probably will be Better way. So if you .

are able to, you be certainly .

take a look at IT. Now kena is interesting because it's so many years ago, you know they do that for danger too because you know in dangerous certain people at ata seta. So Kennedy, uh, is very different from the abstinent. But you had be inclined to do the absent that have no problem with them.

That's great to hear what gives you strength when you getting attacked. You one of the most attacked people in the world.

I think you, you can't, you can't care that much. I know people. They care so much about everything like what people say. You can't care too much because you end up joking.

One of the tragic things about life is that IT ends. How often do you think about your death?

Are you afraid of IT? Have a friend who's very, very successful. And his in his eighties, mid eighties, and he has been the exact same question I said.

I turned IT around as that. Well, what about you? He said, I think about IT every minute of every day.

And then a week later, he call me to tell me something. And he started off the conversation by going take tuck tick. This is a ck. This is a dark person, in on a sense, but IT is what IT is.

I mean, you know, if you religious, you have, I think, a Better feeling towards, you know, you supposed to go to heaven ideal in that hell, which is supposed to go to heaven if you have good. I think our countries missing a lot of religion, I think IT really was a much Better place with religion IT. IT was IT was almost a guide, you know, to a certainty.

Guy, you want na be good to people without religion is no real there no guard rails. I'd love to see this kid back to religion. More religion in this country.

well, is to present. Thank you for putting yourself out there and thank you for talking at that.

Like, uh, I love the country. I want to see the country be great and we have a real chance of doing that, but it's our last chance. I appreciate IT very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for listening .

to this conversation with downtown trump. To support this podcast, please check out our sponsors in the description. And now as i've started doing here at the end of some episodes, let me make, if you comment and answer your questions, if you would like to submit questions, including an audio and video form, go to let's free doc A M A.

Or get in touch with me for whatever other reason at lex reminder com slash contact. I usually do this A T shirt, but I figured out for this abode, keep my suit and tie on. So first, this might be a good moment to a look back a bit.

I've been doing this podcast for over six years, and I, first and foremost have to say thank you. I'm truly grateful for the support and the love of gotten along the way. It's been, I would say, the most unlikely journey.

And on most days, I barely feel like I know what i'm doing, but I wanted to talk a bit about how I approaches conversations. Now, which conversation is its own unique puzzle? So I can speak generally to high approach these.

But here IT may be useful to describe how I approach conversations with world leaders. I wish, I hope to have many more and do a Better job every time I read a lot of history, and I admire the history ian perspective. As example, I admire William shire, the author of many books on hitler, including the rise and fall of the third right.

He was there and lived through IT and covered IT objectively to the degree that one could. Academic historians, by the way, criticism for being a poor historian because he editor realized a little too much. I think those same folks criticised dan Carolin in his hard core history podcast.

I respect their critics ism, but I fundamentally disagree. So in these conversations with world leaders, I tried to put on my historian and hat. I think in the realm of truth, in public discourse, there's a spectrum between the a femoral and the eternal, the outrage mobile e click bay.

Journalists are often focused on the the current thing, the current viral ship storm of mccurry division. But on the battle of the day is done, most of IT will be forgotten, few true ideas will remain, and those the historian hopes to capture. Now this is a much easier said than done.

It's not just about having the right ideals in the integrity district by them. It's not even just about having the actual skill of talking, which A I still think I suck at. But let's say it's a working progress.

You also have to make the scheduling work and set up the entirety of the environment in the weather is conduced to such a conversation. This is hard, really hard, with political and business leaders. They are usually super busy and in some cases, super nervous because, well, they're been screwed over so many times.

Would click bait got your so to convince them and their team to talk for two, three, four, five hours is hard. And I do think a good conversation requires a kind of duration. And i've been thinking a lot about why I don't think it's just about needing the actual time for three hours to cover all the content.

I think the longer form with a hypothetical skilled conversationist relaxes things and allows people to go on tangents and to banter about the details because I think it's in the details that the beautiful complexity of the person is brought to light. Anyway, I look forward to talking to more world leaders in doing a Better job every time. As I said, I would love to do interviews with comm la.

Harris and some other political figures on left and right, including to walls, L. C, bernie black, obama, bill and Hillary, and on the right, J. D.

Vance of vg, George w. And so on. And on the top of politics, let me say, as an immigrant, I love this country, the united days of america.

I do believe IT is the greatest nation on earth, and i'm grateful for the people on the left, in the right, who stepped into the arena of politics to fight for this country that I do believe they all love as well. I have reached to complete ris, but not many of the others. I probably should do a Better job of the head, but i've been doing most of this myself.

All the three child scheduling, research, part recording so on. And on top of that, I very much have been suffering from in house syndrome, with the voice in my head constantly pointing out when i'm doing a shady job, plus a few folks graciously remind me on the internet the the very same sentiment of this, a formation voice, all of this, while I have the option of just hiding weight, MIT programing robots and doing some coa. I research with a few grass students, or maybe joining an A I company, or maybe starting my own.

All these options make me truly happy. I, like I said, most days, I barely know what i'm doing. So who knows what the future holds most important and forever grateful for all of you, for your patients in your support throughout this world server, a life i've been on, I love you all.

okay. Now let me go on to some of the questions that people had. I was asked by a few people to comment on power do arrests and on eggs being banned in brazil. Let me first briefly comment on the darrah arrest.

So basic facts about darvas CEO of telegram, which is a messenger APP that has entire encysted mode, is not on by default, and the most people don't use the antiethical pt, but some do power, was arrested in france on a long list of charges related to the criminal activity Carried out on the telegram platform and for quote on quote, providing unlicenced cpt logy services. I think telegram is indeed used for criminal activity by a small minority of its users, for example, by terrorist groups to communicate. And I think we all agree that terrorism is bad, but here's a problem, as the old thing goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

And there are many cases which the world illiterate agrees who the terrorists are. But there are other cases when the government, especially authority an in clan governments, tend to prop pagani and just call whoever in the opposition, whoever opposes them, terrorists. There is some room for nuance here.

But to me at this time, IT seems to obviously be a power grab by government wanting to have back to access into every platform so they can have sensitive power against the opposition. I think generally, government should stay out of centering or even pressuring social media platforms. And I think arresting a CEO of a tech company for the things said on the platform he built is just nuts.

IT has a chilling effect on him, on people working at telegram and on people working at every social media company. And also people think of launching a new social media company. Same as the case of x being banned in brazil.

It's, I think, a power grab by eleven is a supreme court justice in brazil. He ordered x to block certain accounts that are spreading coron quote misinformation. Iron and x deny the request.

Then the maris threatened to arrest x representatives in brazil and responses that x pulled the representative out of brazil, obviously, to protect them. And now x having no representative in brazil, apparently violates the law. Based on this day is band x in brazil.

Once again, it's an authoritarian figure seeking censorship power over the channels of communication. I understand that this is complicated because there are evil people in the world, and part of the role of government is to protect us from those evil people. But as Benjamin Frankland said, those who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve me, the liberty nor safety.

So it's the trade off. But I think in many places in the world, many governments have been too far away at this time from liberty. okay. Next up I got a question on A I, which I emotionally connected with. Our condensate is follows.

Hello, lux, i'm a programmer, and I have a deep fear of slipping into irrelevance because I am worried that A, I will soon exceed my programing skills. Let me first say that I relate to you fear. It's scary to have a thing that gives you a career and gives you meaning to be taken away.

For me, programme is a passion. And if not for this podcast, IT would probably, at least in part in my profession. So I get an uncomfortable feeling every time. Claude, the I used for coding at this time, just write a lot of excEllent a proxy correct code.

I think you can make a good case that is already exceeds the skill of many programmer, at least in the same way that a the collective intelligence of stack overflow exceeds the scale of many programmer in many individual programmes, but in many ways IT still does not, but I think eventually, more and more the task, the professional programing will be one of writing natural language prompts. I think the right thing to do and what i'm at least doing is to ride the wave of the other improving code generating alembic and keep transforming myself into a big picture design er versus low level tinker. What i'm doing and uh what I recommend you do is continually switch to whatever stated the our tool st for generating code.

So me currently I recently switched from V S code to cursor and before that was IMAX he s code switch curse is this editor that's based on the s code that a leans heavily on l emps and integrates the co generation really nicely into the editing process. So IT makes me so pretty to a continually use the alarms. So what I would advise and what i'm trying to do myself, is to learn how to use IT into master's code generation capabilities.

I personally tried to now allocate a significant amount of time to designing with natural language first versus writing code from scratch. So using my understanding of programming to edit the code is generated by the L. M, versus sort of writing from scratch, and then using the aleem to generate small parts of the code.

I see this is a skill that I should develop in parallel to my programme skill. I think this applies to many other careers too. Don't compete with A I for your job.

Learn to use the A I to do that job Better. But yes, IT is scary and some deeps of human level, the threat of being replaced. But at least I think that would be okay.

Right next up, I got a very nice audio message in question from a gentlemen who is twenty seven and feeling a lot of xiety about the future. Just recently, he graduated with a bah's degree, and he's going about going to great school for biomedical engineering. But there is a lot of xiety.

He mentioned xiety many times in the message. He took him an extra to get a degree. So he mentioned he would be thirty two by the time he's done with his P.

H. D. So it's a big investment. But he said in his heart, he feels like he's a scientist.

I think that's the most important part of this message of your message. By the way, i'll figure out how to best include audio video messages in future episodes. Now onto the question.

So thank you for tell me your story and force submitting the question. My online story, some of yours. I went to drugs, the university for my bachelors, masters, doctor degrees.

And I took a while, just as you're doing, I did a lot of nonstandard things that weren't any good for some hypothetical career I supposed to have. I trained and competed. And judo judge for my entire one is got a black bolt from IT.

I wrote a lot, including a lot really crappy y poetry. I read a large amount of non technical books, history, philosophy and literature. I took courses on literature, philosophy that weren't at all required for my computer science, and elect engineering degrees like a course on James joyce.

I play guitar in bars around town. I took a lot of technical classes, many, for example, on the vertical computer science, that were way more than were needed for the degree. I did a lot of research, and I quoted up a bunch of projects that didn't directly contribute to my dissertation.

IT was pure curiosity and the joy of expLoring. So like you, I took the long way home, as they say, and I regret none of IT throughout that people around me and even people who love me wanted to me to hurry up into focus, especially because I had very little money. And so I had a sense, like time was running out for me to take the needed step towards the reasonable career.

And just like you, I was fill anxiety, and I still am filled with xiety to this day. But I I think the right thing to do is not to run away from the anxiety, but to lean into IT and channel into pursuing with everything you've got, the things you're passionate about, as you said, very importantly in your heart, you know your scientist. So that's IT. You know exactly what to do.

Pursue the desire to be a scientist with everything you ve got, get to a good, great school, find a good adviser, and, uh, do epic shit with them and IT may turn out in the end that your life will have unexpected chapters, but as long as they're chasing dreams and goals with absolute unweighed dedication, good stuff will come of IT and also try your best to be a good person. This might be a good place to read the words if by Roger kipling, that I often return to when I feel lost. And i'm looking for guidance on how to be a Better man.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blame on you, if you can trust yourself when all men are you, but make allowance for their doubting too. If you can wait and not be tired by waiting or being lied about, don't deal in lies or being hated, don't give way to hating and yet don't look too good nor talk too wise. If you can dream and not make dreams your master, if you can think and not make thoughts your aim, if you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two impostor just the same, if you can bear to hear the truth spoken, twisted by nails, they make a trap for fools, or watch the things you gave your life to broken and stop and build them up with one out tools.

If you can make one heap of all your winnings and risk is on one turn of pigeon toss and lose and starting again at your beginnings and never read the word about your loss, if you can force your heart to nerve and see you to severe turn long after they're gone and so hold done when there's nothing in you except the will which sets to them. Hold on if you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue or walk with kings, not lose the common touch if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you if all men come with you but none too much if you can fill down for giving minute with sixty seconds worth of distance run yours is the earth and everything that's in IT and which is more, you'll be a man, my son. Thank you for listening and see you next time.