cover of episode Vol.213|江南的宁波、中国的宁波、世界的宁波|嘉宾:刘擎×施展

Vol.213|江南的宁波、中国的宁波、世界的宁波|嘉宾:刘擎×施展

2024/12/27
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刘擎:作为在沪宁波人的后代,我深刻体会到宁波文化对上海的影响,以及宁波家庭中重视教育的传统。宁波人在上海的经济影响力巨大,掌握着金融、商贸等重要行业。宁波话中的‘阿拉’一词也体现了宁波文化对上海文化的深远影响。宁波的饮食习惯,如咸鸭蛋、雪里蕻、醉鸡等,也对我产生了深远的影响。宁波人独特的英语学习方法‘洋泾浜英语’,体现了其在上海经商的适应性和创造性。宁波的商业和文化传统,在家庭内部通过非制度化的方式传承下来,即使在‘读书无用论’盛行的年代,也依然重视教育。 施展:宁波作为重要的贸易枢纽,其地理位置优越,是海陆丝绸之路的交汇点,这决定了其商业发展的基础。宁波与绍兴在近代历史上的发展轨迹有所不同,宁波人更注重经商,而绍兴人更倾向于参与政治和革命活动。宁波商帮的成功,与其地理位置的枢纽作用和文化观念有关。宁波的商业文明,既有文化底蕴,又有商业活力,与苏南模式有所不同。宁波的成功并非仅仅是生存需求,更重要的是发展需求,这与宁波的文化观念有关。宁波成功地解决了传统社会中道德与商业之间的张力与撕裂,这与王阳明心学有关。宁波在思想转型上,从中国的传统学术到中国现代的思想,都有很重要的贡献,与苏格兰启蒙运动有相似之处。 何必:宁波低调而富有矛盾性,是江南地区一个独特的城市。上海在远东地区经济和交通等领域占据主导地位,而宁波则在这些闪耀的城市背后默默崛起。‘在沪宁波人’掌握着近代上海金融、商贸、运输和帮会等重要行业。宁波兼具文化和商业的双重特质,与苏南模式有所不同。宁波商帮与晋商、粤商、闽商、徽商相比,在近代转型过程中较为成功。传统宗教和儒家思想都反对追求利润,而浙东学派找到了一个突破口,既能追求经济效率,又不违背道德标准。宁波在现代化转型中,保持了低调,但其影响深远,在经济和思想领域都有重要贡献。

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Key Insights

Why is Ningbo considered a significant trade hub historically?

Ningbo has historically been a crucial trade hub due to its strategic location connecting the Grand Canal to the Maritime Silk Road. It served as a key point for both inland and maritime trade, facilitating the movement of goods between northern China, southern China, and international markets like Japan and Southeast Asia. Its role as a trade intermediary was further solidified during the Ming and Qing dynasties, particularly in the context of the tribute trade with Japan.

What role did the Ningbo merchants play in Shanghai's economic development?

Ningbo merchants were instrumental in shaping Shanghai's economic landscape, particularly in finance, commerce, and transportation. By the 1920s, Ningbo migrants constituted a significant portion of Shanghai's population, with many holding key positions in banking, insurance, and other industries. Their influence extended to the establishment of self-organized business associations, which played a pivotal role in Shanghai's economic modernization.

How did the Zhejiang School of Thought influence Ningbo's commercial culture?

The Zhejiang School of Thought, particularly through figures like Wang Yangming, provided a philosophical foundation that reconciled Confucian ethics with commercial pursuits. Wang Yangming's emphasis on 'innate knowledge' and the idea that moral integrity could coexist with profit-seeking activities helped legitimize commerce in a traditionally agrarian society. This intellectual shift allowed Ningbo merchants to navigate the tension between traditional moral values and the demands of a burgeoning commercial economy.

What distinguishes Ningbo's culinary culture from other regions in Jiangnan?

Ningbo's culinary culture is characterized by a unique blend of sweet and salty flavors, setting it apart from the predominantly sweet cuisine of other Jiangnan regions. Dishes like salted duck eggs, pickled mustard greens, and wine-soaked chicken reflect this distinctive taste profile. This culinary tradition not only influenced local dining habits but also left a lasting impact on Shanghai's food culture.

Why is Ningbo often compared to European cities like Florence and Genoa?

Ningbo is compared to Florence and Genoa due to its historical role as a center of trade, commerce, and intellectual innovation. Like Florence during the Renaissance, Ningbo experienced a cultural and economic flourishing that blended traditional values with modern commercial practices. Similarly, its role as a trade hub mirrors Genoa's prominence in Mediterranean commerce, particularly in facilitating exchanges between different regions and cultures.

What is the significance of the 'Yangming School' in Ningbo's intellectual history?

The Yangming School, founded by Wang Yangming, played a transformative role in Ningbo's intellectual history by challenging the rigid moral constraints of Neo-Confucianism. Wang's philosophy emphasized the importance of individual conscience and the integration of knowledge and action, which provided a moral framework for commercial activities. This intellectual movement not only influenced local scholars but also contributed to broader shifts in Chinese thought during the late imperial period.

How did Ningbo's geographical location contribute to its economic success?

Ningbo's geographical location at the intersection of the Grand Canal and the Maritime Silk Road made it a natural hub for trade and commerce. Its proximity to both inland waterways and coastal shipping routes allowed it to serve as a critical node for the exchange of goods between northern and southern China, as well as international markets. This strategic position facilitated the city's economic growth and its emergence as a key player in regional and global trade networks.

What is the cultural significance of the term 'Ala' in Ningbo and Shanghai?

The term 'Ala,' commonly associated with Shanghai dialect, actually originates from Ningbo. It reflects the deep cultural influence of Ningbo migrants on Shanghai's linguistic and social fabric. The widespread use of 'Ala' in Shanghai underscores the historical ties between the two cities and the significant role Ningbo people played in shaping Shanghai's identity.

How did Ningbo's merchants differ from other regional merchant groups like the Shanxi merchants?

Ningbo merchants differed from groups like the Shanxi merchants in their motivations and cultural context. While Shanxi merchants were driven by survival needs in a harsh environment, Ningbo merchants operated from a position of relative prosperity, seeking further development and expansion. This distinction allowed Ningbo merchants to embrace a more innovative and outward-looking approach to commerce, supported by a cultural framework that reconciled Confucian ethics with commercial success.

What is the historical significance of the Tianyi Pavilion in Ningbo?

The Tianyi Pavilion, China's oldest surviving library, is a testament to Ningbo's rich cultural heritage. Established during the Ming dynasty, it symbolizes the city's long-standing commitment to scholarship and intellectual pursuits. The library's extensive collection of rare books and manuscripts reflects Ningbo's role as a center of learning and its contribution to the preservation of Chinese cultural and historical knowledge.

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宁波,一个低调却极具实力的江南城市,拥有悠久的历史和深厚的文化底蕴。节目从宁波话“阿拉”切入,探讨宁波在古代和近代经济中的地位,以及“在沪宁波人”对上海的影响。
  • 宁波在古代和近代经济中的地位
  • 在沪宁波人对上海的影响
  • 天一阁、浙东学派等宁波文化元素

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提起宁波,“阿拉”想到什么?古代文人称颂江南,总是“上有天堂,下有苏杭”;提起近代经济,则有上海、无锡闪耀,在这些“明星”背后,其实还有一个低调沉稳的城市身影,那就是宁波。宁波的人文十分繁盛,不仅有现存最久的藏书楼天一阁,还有王阳明、朱舜水、黄宗羲、章学诚、全祖望、万斯同、万斯大等一批明清学者,更有实际掌握近代上海金融、商贸、运输和帮会命脉的在沪宁波人群体。 从“在沪宁波人”的群像中,我们看到一个既有商业进取性又不失文化底蕴、柔中有刚的宁波。在宁波商帮与晋商、粤商、闽商、徽商的对比中,我们看到了某种商业文明的自觉和基于商业的社会自发萌芽,商业与文化、社会和谐交融。再到宁波近代的思想转型,类比“中国的苏格兰启蒙运动”,我们看到宁波不仅有中国意义,更有世界意义:这是商业社会之花在东亚儒家世界结出的文明之果。 在今天的节目中,刘擎、施展和何必三位老师将从商业历史切入,通过不同层级的地理区域、社会文化比较,层层递进,找寻宁波这座城市的特质,及其在中国历史转型中的定位。 本期节目是宁波城市声音企划【宁波,听「阿拉」的腔调】系列节目之一。欢迎和我们一起感受在传承中不断创新、沉稳而不失时尚的宁波腔调。 【本期对谈】 主播:何必,北京大学历史学博士 嘉宾:刘擎,华东师范大学紫江特聘教授 嘉宾:施展,上海外国语大学全球文明史研究所教授 【收听指南】 02:07 宁波印象:天一阁、浙东学派、在沪宁波人 07:24 在“读书无用论”的年代,仍有读书至上的家庭氛围 10:52 宁波味道:咸鸭蛋、雪里蕻、酒糟、醉鸡…… 13:33 “洋泾浜”英语:来叫come,去叫go,进门就叫open  door 18:28 宁波特质:甜中带咸的饮食、柔中带刚的语调 21:44 同中有异:宁波与绍兴的相互影响与相互塑造 24:58 运河、船舶与港口,作为贸易枢纽的宁波 31:31 对比晋商、粤商、闽商、徽商,看近代甬商的转型 37:34 宁波商帮摆脱了传统社会“道德-商业”的张力与撕裂 44:54 阳明心学的思想革命与浙东学派的突破口 48:08 由“绍兴出师爷,宁波出商人”引发的猜想 50:36 类比佛罗伦萨、热那亚、荷兰:思想与地理上的相似性 55:50 张弛有度,知行合一,中国的“苏格兰启蒙运动” 01:01:36 宁波的城市腔调:在传承中创新,沉稳而不失时尚

【工具箱】 01 本期提到的与宁波相关的历史人物:王阳明、朱舜水、黄宗羲、章学诚、全祖望、万斯同、万斯大、严信厚(中国第一家民营银行总经理)、叶澄衷(五金大王)、虞洽卿(“阿德哥”)、朱葆三(清末首富)、方液仙(国货大王、轻工大王)、刘鸿生(火柴大王)、任士刚(汗衫大王)、张啸林(“上海三大亨”之一)、应桂馨(青帮“大”字辈,宋教仁案嫌疑人)。 02 阳明学,通常又称作王学、心学,是由明代大儒王守仁(号“阳明子”,人称王阳明)发展的儒家理学。元代至明初以来流行的程颐朱熹一派的理学强调格物以穷理,王阳明则继承宋代陆九渊强调“心即是理”,即最高的道理不需外求,而从自己心里即可得到。王阳明的主张为其学生继承发扬,并以讲会的形式传播到民间,成为“阳明学派”,亦称“姚江学派”。 03 载入《教育大辞典》的中国第一所女子中学——宁波甬江女中,其前身为宁波女塾,1844年由英国东方女子教育协会会员、基督教会传教士爱尔德赛女士创办,选址在宁波城西祝都桥(今中山西路182弄36号附近),1857年发展为崇德女校。此后,一位美国女士也在宁波开办了圣模女校。1958年,女子中学改名为宁波六中,并开始实行男女同校。1995年,易名为宁波市甬江职业高级中学。 04 中国第一位女留学生:金韵梅(Dr.Yamei Kin,1864-1934),又译名金雅梅、金雅妹,是中国第一位女留学生,医学家、教育家、营养师。金韵梅生于浙江宁波一个长老会牧师家庭,毕业于美国纽约医学院附属女子医科大学,创办了我国第一所公立护士学校天津北洋女医学堂。金韵梅也是浙江省第一位女留学生,第一位女大学毕业生。金韵梅开中国女性海外留学之先河,学成之后对我国医学和护理教育事业的发展做出贡献。1908年8月,由直隶总督袁世凯拨银2万两,金韵梅在天津东门外水阁大街创办了一所公立护士学校,亲任校长,始称天津公立女医局附设女医学堂,(亦称北洋女医学堂、长芦女医学堂),开近代中国公立护理教育之先河。《纽约时报》曾赞其为“一位典型的中国进步女性”、“当世最古老帝国中的新女性”和“当今世界最杰出的女性之一”。

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