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out there. If you didn't find love the first time around, we're telling you it's okay. We're with you. We're here to tell you you can get the confidence you need to get back out there and find love again. Wow. You're already laughing at me, so apparently that was not said confidently enough. I believed you. I believe you. I'm a believer. Amen. It is really, really cool to

be in the room with all of these ladies right now. I am one of your hosts, TJ Holmes, sitting next to my dear love, Amy Robach, and Ginny Garth, one of our hosts here as well. It's the first time we've actually been able to be in the room with her as we've done one of these. This is so good. But we're joined by a couple of our celebrity mentors and some old friends of ours. Now, when I say old friends, I didn't mean that. No, no, you didn't. Try another

be careful okay some of our dearest friends that we go way back with is what i'm golden friends yes golden friends thank you for getting me out of that that's that's an hour okay from the golden bachelor and their podcast bachelor happy hour golden hour we have kathy schwartz

And Susan Knoll's with us today, you guys. Yes, we're back. We love having you. Okay. We have to go because we had so many questions last time that we needed more information. Gotta keep going. Because everything you have to say is like gold nuggets. Mm-hmm.

- Is that what that called that? Golden nuggets? - Yeah, I could get some gold out of your nuggets. And of course, like the conversation between you two and just your beautiful relationship, I think that's really inspiring for people to listen to. - Definitely an inspiration. - Third time's the charm. - Absolutely. This is from Lisa Rogers. Okay, is there one dating site better than the other?

I've never been on a dating site, so I could not answer that question. They're all the same people on all the same dating sites. They say the ones you pay for are better than the free ones, but I don't find that to be true either. I mean, there's so many now. Mm-hmm.

It's overwhelming. You know, you used to think that you're in a big city, there's more people that... I think it's harder to meet people in a big city. Like in New York, people complain all the time. This is the worst place. L.A. You can't meet anybody in L.A. Philly. I think the reason in big cities... My daughter said this and I've had several other friends say this. When you're in a big city...

Like you can be on a date with a great guy or a great woman and they're talking to you and then somebody walks in. That looks interesting. Too many options. Too many options. They just swipe.

Just keep swiping. That's a good job. There's always someone prettier, younger, thinner, smarter, richer, better. Well, not in your case, Amy. No, ha, ha, ha. You are gorgeous. But thank you very much. Take that and say thank you. No, but I remember my mom always telling me that. She said you can never, when you're actually looking for someone, if you get into this comparison business, which I think the apps actually encourage and perhaps even make it

sort of addictive. But if you are always looking for, what if I could find something better? If you're in that mindset, you'll never ever settle down or be okay with what you have or recognize the beauty or uniqueness of what you have. So I think these apps unfortunately perpetuate that, right? Because you always do have another option. And it's right there at your fingertips. That's got to be really tough. You don't have to name it, but is there a site that you've had more success on than another? Is there not a front runner at all?

No. For me, Bumble...

I met two guys on Match that were above ground in breathing. And then I met a couple guys on Bumble that were worth having a second day with, but not really. Coffee meets bagel. They're all in New York or North Jersey. It's about vicinities to where you're at. Geographically desirable. Yes. All right. Another question for you all here. Again, no name attached to this one, but it says, when do you start having the money?

Debt, if you say for retirement, if your adult children are going to be taken care of or independent financially. When do you start having those money conversations? Money's always tricky. Well, you kind of just keep your eyes open in the beginning and you can figure some of it out. But I wouldn't have a serious conversation...

Of that nature until you're deciding we're serious and we're going to take this to the next level. We're going to be exclusive. Well, no, exclusive is you just don't sleep with anybody else, right? Who says? Well, I just found out what hooking up was this year. I had a teacher what hooking up means. She knew what making out was, but not what hooking up. Like you're hooking up with somebody you didn't know.

I just, I have young daughters. So I know. So, you know, I did not. I have a question on this. So I am probably the senior member in this room and I have to be honest back to this question TJ that you just read. If I met, please God may it happen. The man of my second dreams tomorrow. I honestly, I have three children, three grown children and two grandchildren. Um,

My husband and I worked really hard for the money that I have. I want to leave the lion's share of the money I have to my children and grandchildren. So I don't expect a man to take, quote unquote, take care of me. And I don't want to take care of him. So I think at my age, it sort of would be a more,

partnership financially. You know, as long as he flies me first class wherever we want to go. That doesn't hurt. But,

But I'm just saying I want – so I don't – you know, it's not like pooling money. I would expect to share expenses. If we bought a house together, we'd own it together. We would share the expenses together. And I think that's different when you're young and raising kids and you're meeting someone. Well, anybody our age out there looking for somebody to keep them are foolish. A nurse and a purse. I mean, it's just – a nurse and a purse. I do not want to be a nurse or a purse. Thank you so much. Yeah, I mean, I don't –

Yeah, it's so... The money thing is always a tough one. But I think, you know, you and I haven't had serious conversations. I think until you go to live with someone and merge households, you know, obviously you are going to decide who should pay for dinners and like that'll, I guess, evolve naturally. But...

I don't know that it's necessary unless you are like actually merging your families together, merging your households together. Do you have a retirement account? Do you have a savings? I've asked. And that was one of the reasons that that didn't work. Had nothing.

No, I mean, I have, I have a... You have kids that you're responsible for. Oh, I'm solely responsible for that. But I've taken responsibility as a woman who has always been a kind of a single mom to my children, like in terms of financial responsibility. So I've set that in,

that ball in motion. I have a trust and that's just something how I've operated. No, and I actually only learned it after the second time around. So you learn from past mistakes how you protect your interest for your children. And yes, when you have kids and yes, we're talking to people with their second, third time around, you've learned probably in painful ways what you should have done differently. And expensive ways. And expensive ways. It does cost. But I will tell you, I have experienced

taken my daughters along that journey with me to say hey don't ever rely on someone else like that I want them that was the one thing I wanted for them from the beginning was to say hey no matter what happens if you are financially independent in whatever way you live and you can live modestly right to live within your means but then you have choices and then you're empowered to make the best decision for yourself yes and that is the gift I've hoped to give my daughters I mean that's why we're here

I feel like is to pass that. My father taught me that early on. Don't depend on anybody but yourself. And if you meet somebody that's your equal, that's even better. But always depend on yourself first. Choose yourself. That's funny. You know what my parents told me?

Go find your Prince Charming. And marry rich Kathy. I didn't listen to any of it. My grandmother told my mother, my mom didn't listen either, it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is a poor man. I've heard that before. And she laughed because she's like, wow, I did not follow that advice. All right. What would you think if you matched or went on a date with someone who found out that they hadn't been in a relationship in a long time? Is that a red flag?

Well, I think if someone took the time to work on themselves, that's a good sign. Define how long. I was going to say, what's a long time? If it's been a decade. You know, I have some questions. And it depends on the age too, right? Yep. And if you're raising a family.

If you have young kids and you're raising, you might not have. Is two years a long time? Yes, definitely. Would that be considered a long time? I haven't been on a date in over two years. I haven't been on a date in two years. Two years. Wait, on a date? I've not been on a date. I didn't know that. The last time we talked to you. Don't you feel for us now? It's not something I like. You sure you don't have an uncle? Since no one's listening to this at all, it's just us five in this room.

No, I have not been on a date. I have a couple of male friends that I go out with, but not a date. Okay. Last time we saw you all, I thought you all were just, y'all were dating, y'all were all over the place. We were ready to date. You were ready to date, but not dating. Yes, but I can assume men would be very...

cautionary. Reticent. They are. Thank you. That's the story of our life. I know. I know. Well, we've got to break that. So people say, well, just do less, Susan. Be less. Oh, okay. We've talked about this. We can only be who we are. That's...

I am authentically who I am. I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and I accept that. But I'm not going to be somebody else. I am everyone's cup of tea. They're just being stupid, Kathy. Have you all actually considered taking moments and going, you know what, maybe we do need to change things up a little bit? Because there's so many people that give relationship advice that tell a woman to be a little this. Don't be so bossy. We had someone in the studio. Don't be so bossy.

So you got to kind of play. Oh, save that for the boardroom. In the bedroom, you need to take a second. Yes, that line. Right? She made a total point. Like, you need to let him be the man. And that's a hard thing to hear sometimes. I leave when I dance. Are you kidding? Like...

I get it. I was dancing with Val. We did like eight, count of eight. And he goes, wait a minute. I lead, Susan. Always. No, that's, we're strong women. We're built to be strong and take care of ourselves. Why are men so intimidated by that? DJ?

There are men that aren't. Come on, we got a man in the house. Well, that's tough for me to answer because I'm with this one. This is the strongest, most stubborn, bullheaded, selfish, arrogant. I can handle all of this. Don't mess with me. I don't need a man. She delivers it soft. This is who I'm with. I mean, so it's tough to, you have to be...

Friends first. Well, you have to. But you have to have some kind of confidence in yourself to be with a woman as strong as you, you, you, and you. You have to. So where are they all? What rock are they hiding under? What would you change about us? We don't have enough time. Oh, absolutely. See, that's the thing. And it always breaks my heart because we have plenty of conversations on our show about it with different women about it.

Like trying to alter or change anything about who you are to make this guy feel better about himself so that he can then ask you out. It's just too much of a game. And we're too, we're grown. We're adults at this point. We don't have time for this. One thing I learned that this is something I practice when you're in the restaurant, you don't talk to the waiter. You let him talk. That's like a chore for me.

It's like, I got something to say, but I have to let the man take the lead. That was difficult. You have to stroke. I have to let the man take the lead. That's still a thing? Does that register with you at all? Not really. I don't know. That feels so weird. But maybe that's a generational, like maybe older men feel differently about that. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. My husband would never be offended if I took the lead or anything.

You know, he doesn't get threatened by my strength. Nobody should. And again, I'm going to ask, does he have an older brother or an uncle?

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What is a good way, and by the way, Hannah, if you know the answer or any of you in this room, tell me, what is a good way to start dating again after a long period of not wanting to date? Any good advice on that? Somebody to ask me? Yeah. It's called Call Me. 1-800-CALL-PALM-ME. DMs. I heard about the DMs.

Oh, yeah, that's the other thing. We talk about sliding into our DMs. Sliding into our DMs. Our DMs are frozen over. There's no sliding going on. Maybe there's a lockbox, guys. We don't know. The lockbox, yeah. We need to move them. Oh, Jenny, I like you, Jenny. We tried that, too. That doesn't work. You see what I do there? What is the advice, anybody? Good way to start dating again.

- Yeah, for somebody who hasn't been dating for a while. - I guess listen to your instincts. If you've taken some time and you've done some work on yourself, you found that quiet place to know who you are and find your strength as a woman, then listen to those instincts because they're not going to take you to the wrong place. - Can I just tell you, everyone told me to go to golf courses 'cause that's where single men are. I have pitched a tent for the last two months at a local golf course. I haven't met one guy yet.

I mean, a lot of them on the golf course are laughing, but they're all married. They're all married. I have another anonymous question. Should we be more open to dating people long distance? I think that's tough, especially I feel like even at my age, it would just feel like a time suck. Like,

Why would I be wasting time traveling? It depends on what you want. I mean, if you want a companion to see and to be around and to text and to have fun, but if you really want a partner who you're with day in and day out, that's not, you're just wasting time. Unless you're okay with up and leaving. Yeah, but what if the person that you're madly in love with gets a job and has to go somewhere else?

Oh, that's different. And you can't go with them. Like, how do you do that kind of long distance? Why can't you go with them? That was my difference. It's a different... Are we established as a couple before we have to move across country from each other? Oh, do you consider... Oh, yeah. I consider that. If we're already established and we're good to go, that's one thing. That's different versus... Starting initially, having to kind of get to know somebody and...

Two hour flight away. So what's been happening for the last couple years around here is zero. I'm open to long distance. Can I just say Ben Higgins, who we all know and love, we had him on our podcast and he talked about when he met his now wife, that they always, every time they met, because they lived in different cities. That's a cute story. He was in Denver, she was in Nashville. When they met, they...

They would plan to see each other before they met. They would already have the next time planned. And they would never be cry or sad. It would always be, see you in a couple of weeks. I'll see you soon. And it worked for them. I think it's possible. I think it's difficult, but I think it's possible. I mean, what's long distance? Europe? That would be a problem. Across the country. I think, you know, I've definitely, that was hard for my marriage. I know.

I didn't foresee that happening. Is it New York, LA thing? Yeah, like across the country, sometimes on location. Again, though, you had young children, right, Jenny? Three little girls. It was a big deal. We could do it, Susan. I'd do New York, LA constantly. I would do it. I would do it. I think once the kids come into the situation. We're beyond kids. We're good. That's the beauty of it. Jenny, how long were you all not seeing each other? How long would you go without seeing your husband at the time? Hmm.

Well, a shoot would be like at least four weeks. Oh, that's tough. That's a long time. But he was really good about trying to get back to the kids every week. He really did go back and forth a lot because it was easier for him to go back and forth, you know, than it was for me to take the girls. But, you know, we tried and tried. Is it true absence makes the heart grow fonder? Like you miss him and when you did see each other, it was even more exciting or was it?

I would say it was a mix of both. That and the total opposite of that. Listen, Susan, we cannot complain. If we get dates in LA, you know damn right well you and I are going back and forth. Let's just cut to the chase here. What's home base for you two? I'm in Philadelphia. I'm in Austin, Texas. But I'm ready to move. They're international. I like that.

I have two grandchildren and two kids who live in Austin and I love my family and I love my grandkids. That's what planes are for. I would go back and forth. I hear you. I could do that. It is one of those cool things now that I'm an empty nester, like the idea that like I can live wherever I need to live. This is a good one actually. What do you value the most? Confidence, humor, attractiveness.

Oh, this is a good one. Say them again. Kathy, guess what my answer is. What's more important to you, confidence, a sense of humor, or attractiveness? All of the above. Susan's going to say all of the above. Well, it is all of the above. Okay, you got to put them in order, though. What's the most important? When you say attractiveness, it's what I'm attracted to, right? See, that's the thing.

- It's not being good looking, it's like being attracted. - So let's say attractive, I would say attractive is number one because it's an umbrella for so many things. - Agreed. - But I like to laugh, you guys. - Humor's number two for me. - Humor's number two. - Humor's number two for me. - Humor's absolutely-- - You can't make me laugh. - Humor to me is number one, it's under attractive. - Agreed, and that is the huge thing. He and I, I've never laughed more with a human in my life than I've laughed at him. - Wait, so all of y'all are putting confidence number three?

I mean, I hope he has confidence. I actually agree. Humor and confidence is absolutely under the umbrella of attraction. You wouldn't be attractive to me if you weren't the other two. If a guy is needy and boring, you have to make me laugh, then he has confidence. You can't be funny and not be smart and confident. It's so true. So being attractive, let me just sum this up here very quickly. I

Let me rank them all for you. Okay. Attractive is number one, two, three, four, and five. Because under attractive comes attractive, good looking, smart, intelligent, sense of humor, compassionate, good sense of humor. Yeah. Does that cover it? Financially stable. Anybody out there?

610. And a house on Martha's vendor. What about a confident guy who has no sense of humor? No, thank you. No. Versus a really funny guy who is just kind of a little. Who's an idiot. Yeah.

Okay, next question. Good job trying to sell that one, DJ. Do you think people come into your life randomly or do you think it's the universe? Are you all universe people? I'm universe. I've been practicing, boy. I've been practicing. You see where I am right now, right? I think it's universe.

Yeah. It's universe. Absolutely. I just don't have a vision board. I think I need a vision board and put the man on there. Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong. You have it in your head. You need to get it out on a board. I believe the reason, season, lifetime. I really do. I think people come into your life for a reason, for a season, for a lifetime. What do I say to her all the time? All of us. I say to her all the time, people come into your life for a reason and a season. And the season might be a lifetime. Right.

but it's not random. - Yeah, I agree. - I've come around to that. - A lot of randoms have come into my life, but that's a whole other conversation.

I have come around to that thinking. I am sitting here in a room with you all. Full of women. Full of women, having glasses of wine, a prisoner. My glass is empty. College football game on, having a good time with you all. And the only reason I'm here is because everything had to go exactly the way it went. And I'm happy where I am. So that's why regret is such a difficult word to use. I would like to say that. I'm happy where I am. Stop.

But yeah, I've come around to the bridge. Can I just say, this guy's a walking Hallmark card. No, no, but I think that's the key. We love watching Hallmark movies, by the way. Oh my God, that's the best cry ever. We will sit there and laugh. We laugh. You laugh, I cry. How many times have you been married? Two. Okay, let's just say three and she'll be number three. Can I be number four? No.

We stop at three, Kathy. We stop at three. Damn. I'm looking for my third. Oh, wow. Look at this. Kathy, you know, we have a long night ahead of us with this one. Slow your pace. Seriously. This is an interesting question. Do people think rejection is better than regret? No. No.

You should pick another one. That one doesn't even count. Meaning it would be better if somebody rejected you rather than you staying with them and then you regretting being with them. Would you rather be rejected than have time? I guess if you look at it from that perspective, I guess what your mom said, better to know in five months than in five years.

So if someone had to reject you for you to know it wasn't right versus waiting and wasting years and then regretting it. I mean, I'm too many pills in his hand to understand what you just said. I think I hear you. Like, I would want to know. Yeah. It's like ripping the Band-Aid off. Rather feel the pain now than slowly have it peeled off. Rejection stings, but you heal. Yeah. Yeah.

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If the man you're dating is paying alimony to his ex-wife, how are you supposed to plan your future? Do you need to hold off on pressuring him? Pressuring him? Pressuring for what? You should never pressure a man to marry you. Ever. Period. I firmly believe that. Pressuring a man? Like, do not give ultimatums. Is she pressuring him about the alimony? I think he's pressuring him to stop.

Pressuring him to get in a relationship, but he has to pay alimony? She wants him to be focused on her and her finances. I'm sorry. No. Paying alimony to an ex-wife is a payment. It's part of life. There's no emotion involved in that. In fact, the emotion is, damn, when's this alimony going to be over, right?

the word pressuring should never be in a woman's vocabulary. I don't think it's not going to end well. No. If you have to pressure a man to be with you, it's not going to end well. That's another thing we just learned. I don't pressure. See, I did that right too. Wait, but I don't even know what would pressure look like.

When are we getting married? All you're doing is paying money to your ex-wife. What about our future? What about our future? What about me? Where's my diamond ring? Where's my diamond ring? What about our house? You're paying so much money to Louise that you don't have enough money to focus on me. That does not sound like a good time. It does not sound healthy. I don't want to be there. I don't want to be there. Nope. Just run. I don't want to be there. Okay, another anonymous. Agreed. When you're on round two...

Is it okay to keep dating if you aren't sure there is a future? When do you have the what are we conversation? The what are we conversation? I'm looking for number two. When you want to know. I think you have the conversation when you want to know.

Like, let's not play games. When I want to know what we are, I'm going to ask, what are we? Wait a minute. If you have to ask, I'm not saying this is true. If you have to ask, what are we? Does that say, send a message? No, I think that there, I actually, we had a conversation and we talked about this. We remembered exactly where we were when we said, what are we doing? And what are we? And...

you know, yeah, what are we doing? Like, we know how we feel, but what are we doing? Where are we going from here? And where are we going? And I, you know, I'm at a point in my life where if we're, if I'm going to be with you, this is what I want. And if you don't want the same thing, let's establish this now. I think that's

Did you do the same thing as Jenny? And that's very mature knowing yourself too. Yeah, exactly. I admire that. You get to a certain age and that's just where you are. Well, that's where we are because of age mostly. Yeah, you've learned some things. You don't have time. You just don't have time to waste. Okay, what I want to know, did either of you have this conversation with, did you guys, you did have it. Right. Did you have it, Jenny? How about you, Jenny?

Tell me what conversation. Did you have the conversation with your husband? What are we? What are we? What are we? Did you have that conversation with your husband? Or was it a natural thing in your boat on the same page? Yeah, I don't think we ever. A lot of times that happens. But we did not wait very long. It was a very fast and furious situation. That works. Damn. Yeah. I'm very impulsive.

So I think we, you know, we learned about each other after we had already like jumped in. Yeah. Which might have been really hard. I mean, people. How fast was, I mean, if you don't mind my asking, how fast? Okay. That's so hard for me to remember. Then she said he is, ooh, not the one. I thought so. I'm going. How do we.

How did we get from the ooh? No thanks, can I leave this dinner to me? You were engaged three weeks later? I think we got engaged three months later. Oh my goodness. Yeah, nine months later. Okay, Susan, tonight when we go out for dinner with these great folks, we're going to look at every guy and go, ooh, you want to get married in three months? That's what we're doing. You were engaged to ew after three months, right? Yeah. Oh, wow, that's amazing. That's funny. But the ooh changed to yeah. Okay, yes. I get it. Like the

Like the next day. I feel it. That's so funny. But you put that in our head because we're going out with him tonight. He's just Mr. EWDUS the whole night. Oh my God. Hello, EWDUS. No, no, no. We're just kidding. We're not going to do that. Just kidding. By the way, your husband, I just met him. He's a very handsome man. Yeah, he's very attractive. I was telling you, I think so. Very handsome. You saw I went up and hugged him. I didn't shake any hand. I know. He was not EWDUS. I shook his hand and then I said, I'm a hugger. I don't think he knew what to do. He was like, who is this woman hugging me? He was very comfortable, Kathy. He's...

You know, his name is Dave. He's Dave. He's very easygoing. He's not David? He's kind of Dave. You know, he's very easygoing, easy to get along with. All right. You got the book. Oh, jeez. You got the long one this time. Okay, we're going to go deep for a second. Okay. I think. Okay. My big problem is I've been in domestic violence relationships. I told you. And I freak out and isolate myself when it comes to talking with guys now.

I'm so afraid to get hurt or cheated on. I freeze up. Can someone give me some advice on how to approach men or some good opening lines? That's something.

We can't pretend to be experts. I mean, there's something going on there that I wouldn't ever dare pretend to understand. But I can, from that perspective, my God, if you've been through that experience, how could you ever open yourself up and be willing to put yourself out there? That's difficult, but the thing is, that's what you almost have to do. Give us a good opening line for a woman to say to a man. Hi. Hi.

Hi. It's okay. It's about smiling, about eye contact. I hate ever feeding somebody, try this line or try this move or do this thing. There's no book. It's okay to be you. I don't know the age on that person either, but it's just, that's heartbreaking to think you're in a position where you just can't be yourself and can't be natural and always have a guard up, but we can certainly understand why. And I think, you know, you, TJ, I was actually kind of,

interested in something you told me, you said, I don't know why women think that men want you to play hard to get or men want you to play games. Like men actually want to know that you like them. Men want to know that you're interested in them. Because they say, don't be available. Say no. TJ was like, be a straight shooter. And that's the kind of person you want to be with someone who wants to know who doesn't want to play games. Who doesn't want to like,

pretend to need to chase you. Like we're all, especially if you've been through some and it sounds like she certainly has, shouldn't she want an adult mature relationship? And that involves starting at a place of realness and authenticity. And I think when you show someone who you are, if they don't want to be with you, good, then, you know, upfront, like if you can just be yourself, I would just say,

Yeah, you have to be willing. I know it's scary to be vulnerable, but to be yourself. Because that's the only way you're going to get an authentic love in return. Absolutely. And when you see a red flag, believe it's a red flag. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Okay, we've been told we've got time for one more. Is it me? No, it's, oh, please, my love. Gentlemen, take it. Last one here. Wow. Wow.

Okay, it says it's directed at me, actually. Oh, wow. Perfect choice. Save the best for last. Oh, man. Yo, you two are going to love this. Is it acceptable to set one of your guy friends up with more than one of your female friends, or is that in bad taste? Why don't you all take it then? I mean, as long as you're honest about it, I don't know who he's going to like. My first reaction was, well, I guess you're right.

Like, let's be realistic. I think it's okay. For me, I think when you read that, I had this visceral response, which is if TJ sets, and I'm praying he does, sets me up with someone he knows, I want to at least have the opportunity to explore where our relationship could go with his friend.

without feeling like I'm a part of a meat market. Like, hey, I got 10 girlfriends here, which I would want the opportunity. And then if TJ's friend said, Kathy, it's been real. So you don't like the idea. I don't want to be considered one of a pack.

I don't want to, I don't. It's just like going on the bachelor. It's like going on a dating site. I don't want to be shocked, if that makes sense. I think most guys would not do that out of respect for their friends. I think the female friends I have now, the guy friends I have, I would never start mixing them. I would personally, on your own, without the women knowing, give him an option, show them both, talk about both people that you'd like them to meet and let him make that decision. One at a time, right?

I'm not saying fix him up with both. Let him. That's what you said. And he makes the decision. So, TJ? Yes. The answer is Kathy first, Susan second. Every time I see you, we start wracking our brain about who we know. And then they forget. And then they forget. But TJ, I know we're going to find you both now. We're coming home with you this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, and I do like what you said because I think that no one wants to think they're being, it's almost like an agent trying to push their client. I gotta be better than her. All for whoever you want, but I got several to pick from. What do you like? That feels icky, like a cattle call or something. Yeah. No, I appreciate the fact that you let one relationship see if it works. If it doesn't, and then and only then when you say, would you mind if, yes. And you know what? I would hope that if Dave fixed the,

Susan or me up with someone. I would hope that that friend would come to Dave and say, you know,

I really like Susan, but now I really like to meet Kathy. Susan wasn't all I thought she would be, but Kathy is. Notice how she named that. Notice the order of that. If it were a good friend, I would hope that person would come to you and say. Being true to yourself. Being true, right? She was great, but I don't think she's for me. And there's nothing wrong with that. I would feel better about that then. Susan, how was your date? I don't know. How was your date? It's okay.

What did you talk about, Kathy? What did you talk about? Really? He said that to you? Did he say he liked me? What did he say about me? He told me he prefers petite brunettes. Oh, yeah. We were on that show. But you know what? I love being with you guys. Doing this is great. We got to schedule this more often.

You are. And to our listeners, this is a true story. The five of us are going out tonight together. And I mean, we're going out hard. We're not just going and having appetizers. Oh, no, we got a long night ahead. So hopefully we can do an episode about that later. But keep your questions coming to us. Again, if you are single and ready to find your person or you want to ask us more questions about love and dating and relationships, this is what we want you to do. You can call us at 1-844-4255.

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