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The Lies Are Winning

2024/10/26
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Key Insights

Why are the lies in the 2024 election cycle so pervasive?

The lies are pervasive due to the fusion of old lying techniques with new technology like AI, the influence of figures like Elon Musk, and the strategic use of disinformation by political actors.

What role does Elon Musk play in the spread of disinformation?

Elon Musk, with his massive following on Twitter, actively spreads false information and conspiracy theories, significantly influencing public perception.

How has social media changed the landscape of disinformation since 2016?

Social media has evolved from a platform where disinformation was somewhat controlled to a wild west where tech leaders like Musk actively promote falsehoods and evade accountability.

Why does Donald Trump continue to lie about the 2020 election results?

Trump's lies about the 2020 election serve as a foundational narrative to undermine faith in the electoral system and prepare for potential denial of the 2024 election results.

What impact do these lies have on public perception?

The lies create an environment where people prefer their version of truth over verified facts, undermining the foundation of democracy and public trust in institutions.

Are there any consequences for individuals spreading disinformation?

Yes, individuals like Rudy Giuliani have faced legal consequences for defamation, but the broader platforms and leaders spreading disinformation remain largely unaccountable.

Why is Fox News a significant source of disinformation?

Fox News consistently spreads false information and provides a platform for lies to be repeated and amplified, creating a dangerous echo chamber effect.

What is the strategic purpose behind Trump's lies about Tim Walz?

Trump's lies about Tim Walz are part of a broader strategy to demean and emasculate a political opponent, reinforcing his own image as the strong, masculine leader.

How does the rejection of truth by Trump's supporters affect society?

The rejection of truth by Trump's supporters erodes the societal foundation of verifiable facts, leading to a culture where lies are normalized and accepted.

What is the significance of the defamation rulings against Rudy Giuliani and Fox News?

These rulings show that there are legal avenues to hold individuals accountable for spreading false information, but broader systemic changes are needed to address the issue comprehensively.

Chapters

The discussion begins with an overview of the unprecedented level of disinformation in the 2024 election cycle, focusing on deep fakes, out-of-context clips, and outright falsehoods. The panelists explore the impact of these lies on the election and question whether they are tipping the scales in favor of Donald Trump.
  • Magnitude of deception in the 2024 election cycle is unprecedented.
  • Deep fakes and AI-generated images are new tools in the disinformation arsenal.
  • Willful disavowal of the origins or veracity of information is a new iteration on Trump's old techniques.

Shownotes Transcript

The Washington Roundtable discusses the avalanche of disinformation that has taken over the 2024 election cycle, including an A.I. video meant to slander Tim Walz and claims that the votes are rigged before they’re even counted. Will this torrent of lies tip the election in favor of Donald Trump? Is there a way out of this morass of untruth? “I think the lies are clearly winning,” the staff writer Evan Osnos says. “But I would also say that that doesn’t mean that we should abandon the tools that are available.” Osnos notes recent defamation rulings against Rudy Giuliani and Fox News over false statements about the 2020 election as cases in point. 

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