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Josh Shapiro on How Kamala Harris Can Win Pennsylvania

2024/9/16
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Josh Shapiro:宾夕法尼亚州是一个关键的摇摆州,拥有19张选举人票。赢得宾夕法尼亚州需要争取民主党、独立人士和共和党选民的支持。Kamala Harris需要深入基层,与选民面对面交流,才能赢得宾夕法尼亚州选民的信任。在页岩气开采问题上,Harris的立场转变并非弱点,而是她倾听民意、学习成长的体现。面对Donald Trump的攻击,Shapiro认为Trump试图制造社会分裂,而Harris的竞选团队拥有更好的候选人和更清晰的愿景。Shapiro还谈到了他对以色列和中东问题的立场,以及他对校园抗议活动的看法。 David Remnick:宾夕法尼亚州在历届总统大选中都竞争激烈,Kamala Harris和Donald Trump之间的差距微乎其微。宾夕法尼亚州的政治格局复杂,既有民主党州长Josh Shapiro以压倒性优势获胜的例子,也有历届总统选举结果都非常接近的情况。Remnick与Shapiro讨论了Harris在宾夕法尼亚州面临的挑战,包括页岩气开采问题和如何赢得独立人士和共和党选民的支持。Remnick还就Trump对Shapiro的攻击以及Shapiro的宗教信仰和政治立场等问题与Shapiro进行了探讨。

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Pennsylvania's 19 electoral votes make it a key swing state in the 2024 election. Governor Josh Shapiro discusses the state's political landscape, highlighting Kamala Harris's strategies and challenges in winning over voters, including addressing concerns about fracking.
  • Pennsylvania is a crucial swing state with 19 electoral votes.
  • Kamala Harris needs to appeal to Independents and Republicans to win.
  • Fracking is a key issue in Pennsylvania, and Harris has shifted her stance.
  • Shapiro emphasizes the importance of retail politics and connecting with voters directly.

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In 2024, all eyes are on Pennsylvania: its nineteen electoral votes make it the largest swing state, and it’s considered a critical battleground for either  or  to win the White House. For many years, Pennsylvania trended slightly blue, but the state has become deeply purple—with a divided state House and a series of razor-thin margins in general elections. One notable exception to this was the 2022 Pennsylvania governor’s race. The Democrat Josh Shapiro won by almost fifteen points against a Trump-aligned Republican, and his approval ratings in the state remain high. “To win in Pennsylvania, you’re not winning with only Democrats,” Shapiro told David Remnick. “You’ve got to get like-minded Independents and Republicans.” Shapiro was on the shortlist of candidates for Harris’s pick for Vice-President—which may be the cause of attacks from Donald Trump, including one calling him an “overrated Jewish governor.” He spoke with Remnick to talk about Harris’s  of Minnesota’s governor, , as her running mate, and what it takes for a Democrat to win Pennsylvania. “We’re a big state, but we’re still a retail state,” Shapiro said, “meaning you got to show up!”

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