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The Abercrombie Guys: 7. Do you remember me?

2023/10/2
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通过在《Mac Geek Gab》播客中分享有用的技术提示，特别是关于Apple产品的版本控制。
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波士顿大学电气和计算机工程系教授，专注于澄清5G技术与COVID-19之间的误信息。
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Rianna Croxford：本集追踪到了据称是Abercrombie事件主要中间人Jim Jacobson，试图获取其证词，但其始终试图隐瞒身份，并对指控进行否认和回避。在长达两个多小时的谈话中，Jacobson一会儿否认指控，一会儿又试图通过讨好记者来影响采访结果。最终，Jacobson承认资金来自Mike Jeffries和Matthew Smith，这证实了该行动是为他们服务的。然而，他仍然否认存在胁迫行为，并质疑证人的可信度。 Jim Jacobson：我否认使用胁迫、欺骗或武力行为，并且对其他人的此类行为毫不知情。我不记得许诺过模特机会，我与任何人的相遇都是完全自愿的。 Brad Edwards：根据证词描述的事件，并非自愿的性行为，而是具有胁迫性的性行为。权力差距是导致胁迫性行为的关键因素。签署保密协议是权力者控制弱势群体的常用手段。受害者多次参与事件的原因可能是多种因素造成的，包括自我价值感低、金钱诱惑和持续的承诺。我建议联邦检察官调查此案。 Barrett：我决定公开讲述自己的经历，希望能够促成改变并鼓励其他人发声。 Alex：如果我知道摩洛哥旅行的全部细节，我会做出不同的选择。 David：这段经历直接影响了我的自尊，但我决心不让这段经历定义自己的人生。 Sarah Ziff：时尚行业中存在虐待行为并不罕见，尤其是在年轻且缺乏经验的劳动力中。人们通常低估了模特行业中糟糕的工作条件和虐待行为的严重性。年轻的模特常常处于容易受到剥削和虐待的境地，因为他们缺乏基本权利和保护。

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The Abercrombie Guys’ alleged main recruiter is tracked-down to a small town in Wisconsin and asked about his involvement in the operation: “Nobody went into this without their eyes wide open.”

One high profile American lawyer examines the team’s evidence and calls for prosecutors to investigate.

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World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is presented and investigated by Rianna Croxford Series Producers: Ruth Evans and Alys Harte Senior Producer: Emma Close Development Producer: Hannah Livingston Investigation Editor: Ed Campbell Podcast Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Executive Editor: Emma Rippon Studio Engineers: Neil Churchill, Andy Fell, Gareth Jones, and Ali Rezakhani Production Coordinators: Debbie Richford and Sophie Hill Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Executive: Louise Kattenhorn Assistant Commissioner: Natasha Johansson

This podcast is made in collaboration with BBC Panorama.

If you are in the UK, you can watch Panorama: The Abercrombie Guys: The Dark Side of Cool on BBC iPlayer now, or on BBC Select if you are in the in the US.

World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is a BBC Long Form Audio production for BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Sounds.