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Why Nvidia Dragged The Market Down & Jade Shenker (Owning Manhattan on Netflix)

2024/12/10
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Peter Tuchman: 本期节目讨论了Nvidia股价下跌对市场的影响。Peter认为,Nvidia股价下跌是由于来自中国的反垄断指控,但这只是一时的波动,不代表市场整体趋势的改变。他分析了近期经济数据,认为市场依然强劲,并建议投资者在市场回调时逢低买入,并强调了风险管理和投资策略的重要性。他认为,市场上仍有大量资金等待入场,长期投资者无需过度恐慌。 Peter还回顾了今年市场的表现,指出市场在经历了多次小幅回调后,依然保持了强劲的增长势头,并强调了投资中保持冷静和理性分析的重要性。他建议投资者在投资前进行充分的尽职调查,了解公司的基本面,并根据市场变化调整投资策略。 Jade Shenker: Jade Shenker是一位商业地产经纪人,也是Netflix节目《拥有曼哈顿》的明星。她分享了自己在商业地产领域的经验,以及如何通过创新营销策略来颠覆传统商业地产行业。她强调了适应市场变化,利用社交媒体和线上营销手段的重要性,并分享了自己在面对挑战和质疑时的经验。她认为,成功的关键在于了解客户需求,建立信任,并敢于冒险创新。Jade还谈到了自己与父亲的关系,以及如何传承家族事业,并通过自己的努力在商业地产领域取得成功。她认为,商业地产交易不仅是商业行为,也关乎人的生活和情感,需要用心对待。

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Why did Nvidia's stock drag down the market?

Nvidia's stock fell due to accusations of antitrust issues and monopolistic practices in China, which impacted its reputation as a 'best of breed' stock. This led to a sector-wide sell-off, dragging down the NASDAQ and breaking a winning streak.

What was the impact of Nvidia's fall on the broader market?

Nvidia's fall caused the NASDAQ to decline, breaking a winning streak. The S&P 500 closed down by around 25 handles, but the sell-off was described as minor and not indicative of a broader market collapse.

What was the significance of the recent economic data released?

The unemployment rate ticked up from 4.1% to 4.2%, partly due to the impact of a hurricane and strikes. However, the overall trajectory of employment remains positive, with non-farm payroll jobs increasing significantly from 12-14,000 to 277,000.

How has the market performed in 2024?

The market has seen 57 record closes this year, with the S&P 500 up 27%. Despite global events like wars and economic uncertainty, the market has continued to perform strongly, driven by significant amounts of money on the sidelines being put to work.

What advice does Peter Tuchman give for investing during market pullbacks?

Peter advises having a shopping list of stocks ready to buy during pullbacks, as these moments present opportunities to buy stocks at a discount. He emphasizes the importance of doing homework on companies and only averaging into a stock if it continues to rise.

What is Jade Shenker's approach to commercial real estate?

Jade Shenker is disrupting commercial real estate by applying residential marketing strategies to commercial spaces. She uses social media, events, and YouTube to market properties globally, which has allowed her to sell spaces at record prices, such as a commercial condo for nearly $1,300 per square foot.

How did Jade Shenker's family background influence her career?

Jade comes from a family of real estate developers, and her father taught her the business from a young age, including how to negotiate deals by cold-calling through the Village Voice. Despite being an only child, she was encouraged to enter the male-dominated industry, which shaped her competitive and risk-taking approach.

What is Jade Shenker's show 'Owning Manhattan' about?

Owning Manhattan is a Netflix show featuring Jade Shenker and other real estate agents, focusing on both the business of selling properties and the personal lives of the agents. It highlights the challenges and successes of the real estate industry, including Jade's unique approach to commercial real estate.

What is Jade Shenker's vision for the future in real estate?

Jade hopes to focus on trophy assets, such as properties valued in the hundreds of millions. She is motivated by the legacy she is building and the pride it brings to her father, who has dementia but remains proud of her achievements in the industry.

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Hey everybody, it's me, the Einstein Wall Street from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. What a great day to be alive and to be in this market. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to be your temporary host sitting in for Nicole Lappin of Money Rehab as she is on maternity leave. Let's all wish her

health and happiness for her and her family. It's a beautiful thing. So stay tuned. We're going to be doing episode after episode every day of what the heck's going on, giving you a forensic breakdown of what's happening into the market as we end 2024. And stay tuned for some of the best interviews I've done since the beginning of this show in 2024 in food, in fashion, in finance.

and fun. We'll be seeing a lot here, so stay tuned. Three, two, one. Hey everybody, it's me, the Einstein of Wall Street. We are here with Trade Like Einstein. I am Peter Tuchman, and we're here on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange in the balcony. History is made in this building every single day. Somebody with my long-term experience, I've been here for 137 years, it is my responsibility to help teach you how to navigate this market successfully. Boom!

Hey everybody, it's me, the Einstein of Wall Street from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, right under the podium. Forget about it. So look, where are we? You know at the end of today, because we did have a little bit of a reversal, the market got taken down by Nvidia. Stuff out of China, there was some accusations about an antitrust thing, a monopoly story. And so there was some major accusations against Nvidia, which has been

Best of breed, Jensen, best of breed for the whole year. It's carried the whole market. It was the first time there was really any kind of bad news on it. And you know how one stock can really drag down a sector, and that's what it did. It took the NASDAQ down. We broke a winning streak in the NASDAQ. But it's a day. A day doesn't make a market. A week doesn't make a market.

So the market was all red throughout the day. I think we closed down around 25 handles on the S&P. Friday we traded and closed at record highs. We had the economic data we were looking for. Unemployment did tick up a little bit and that was majorly a function of the hurricane and some strikes. That was up from 4.1 to 4.2, but still,

The trajectory has been great with employment and the numbers have been good. Payroll numbers, 277 versus whatever. Last month we only had 12 to 14,000. This month we're back into the hundreds on jobs created, non-farm payroll jobs.

Right? I'm trying to get the psychology and the mental state because you know when you go home after listening to me, you're going to hear everybody in the mainstream media talk about, oh my God, it's over, the selling off, it's the beginning of the end, blah, blah, blah. But that's not necessarily the case. When we see markets roll over,

It's a lot different than what we saw today. Today's red action, today's sell-off in the market, look, it wasn't even a sell-off. Today was perfectly honest. 25 handles in the S&P is kind of a pebble in your shoe, right? And so you need to understand that we've seen there are some stocks that are so powerful in their sector and in their index that they can actually contribute to the whole market going up or the whole market going down.

The reason Nvidia is the stock it is today may get impacted on the monopoly story, but for the most part, nothing fundamentally has changed. Stocks that got hit today that are not Nvidia, that are not going up against a monopoly charge, this is the kind of day that is an opportunity when the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater and stocks get sold off in an index or all over the market.

because of one particular stock and everybody starts dumping stuff, then that stock that you didn't want to pay top dollar for is trading at a discount down $5, down $10. That's the time you have your shopping list. That's the time you see the opportunity. You should have a bell flashing, a light flashing in your house.

Ask yourself the question. I think like putting post-its all over the place. The rules, right? About never turning a winning trade into a losing trade. Always having a plan when you get into a trade. Using technical analysis and risk management when you get into trades. Always protect your downside risk, whether it's an investment or a trade. We've got plenty of wild cards.

We've had quite a wild year, right, between the whole polarity around the election, about you got two wars going on. You've got the whole thing in the Middle East and oil and all those things, yet the market has continued. Yet Friday, one trading day ago, this market closed at record highs across every indice. That is crazy. The S&P is up 27% for the year. The economic data that came out this last Friday was spectacular.

Now, all that being said, we've got CPI, PPI this week. Very important flag, economic information that is the inflation target that basically the Fed will make its decision. The wonder is, are we going to trade the year? Are we going to close out the year at record highs? I can't tell you. The market's going to go up, market's going to go down. I cannot tell you for sure that's going to happen. But the market tells me on a day-to-day basis throughout all the things we've seen this year,

that there is so much money on the sidelines, people who haven't jumped in yet, who are jumping in. People are putting money to work. They don't want to miss this boat. So many of them have missed the boat, whether it's in crypto, in equities, in the S&P, in tech.

Right? Because nobody ever wants to pay the high and all year, every day, every week, every month, this year, we've had 57 record closes this year. Imagine that. I don't have any trading days that are already here, but we've had 57 record closes this year at the New York Stock Exchange. Isn't that crazy? So it's like, I don't want to pay the high, but I'm sitting around watching today's high, maybe tomorrow's low.

Right? So look, there's always opportunity in markets. There's never a bad time to buy the market. If you're thinking about a long-term investment, disclaimer across the board, I'm not your advisor. I'm just trying to get you into the right mental state and psychology of learning how to trade and invest correctly, taking the emotion out of it. Your first trade, if you are making an investment in a company, do your homework. Check out the company, the four P's.

Process, product, profitability, and the people. That's what makes a good company, right? I learned that from Marcus Limonis. That's what makes a good company, okay? But look into the company, and if nothing's fundamentally changed when the market pulls back, and you've been holding off on buying the stock because you didn't want to pay record highs, have your shopping list and jump in there.

Make a determination how much you totally want to invest in that company. And may your first dive into that company be your smallest. And then add on. If it goes up, add on. Going up, if it comes in, average into the stock. That's the only time you ever average into a stock. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, it's a beautiful day here, even though the market sold off. These are days where it's fascinating to see how everyone talks about it, how other parts of the market sort of

Falsute when we do sell off. We haven't had that many. I mean, literally, we've had seven, eight at most. I would say we've got, you know, you can count them on one hand if you had seven fingers. How many times we've had any kind of consolidation sell-off correction this year at all. And I don't even think we've had a correction. We surely haven't had a crash. But we've had a couple of pullbacks that a couple were significant.

Right? But I've talked about it. We had an April 7% pullback. Normal after the first quarter since 2019. May and June, everybody talked recession, depression, all that stuff. That didn't happen. July, a little bit of a pullback. August 5th, the Black Monday crash in Japan. That was a very complicated trade-off. Told you all about it a million times. September, first week, the worst week for tech since COVID. The second week of September, the best week.

for tech since COVID. I think that little scenario, that little tidbit basically describes this year.

that in September, the first week of September, it was the worst week for tech since COVID. That's a huge, that's a mouthful of a statement. And then week two of September was the best week for tech since COVID. All in one week. You can have a completely, look, bull markets used to take 10 years, generations to happen. We can be in a bull market at 11 o'clock and we can be a bear market by the time the market closes. That's the way this market is, the accelerated pace, the news cycle, it's extraordinary. Anyway.

I'm gonna wrap it up. I love you all. It's a great day to be alive. It's an amazing market. Wake up, find some kindness and gratitude in your life and your attitude, right? And take seriously this market. I need people to invest in stocks and not stuff. I want you all to consider your life and your life's goals or portfolio and build it in a responsible, disciplined, consistent fashion. Anyway, I wish you all the best. I love it here. It's a beautiful day to be alive. Bing, bong, shotzi. I'll see you later.

Hold on to your wallets. Money Rehab will be right back. I love hosting on Airbnb. It's a great way to bring in some extra cash.

But I totally get it that it might sound overwhelming to start or even too complicated if, say, you want to put your summer home in Maine on Airbnb, but you live full time in San Francisco and you can't go to Maine every time you need to change sheets for your guests or something like that. If thoughts like these have been holding you back, I have great news for you. Airbnb has launched a co-host network, which is a network of high quality local co-hosts with Airbnb experience that can take care of your home and your guests. Co-hosts

can do what you don't have time for like managing your reservations messaging your guests giving support at the property or even create your listing for you i always want to line up a reservation for my house when i'm traveling for work but sometimes i just don't get around to it because getting ready to travel always feels like a scramble so i don't end up making time to make my house look

guest-friendly, I guess that's the best way to put it. But I'm matching with a co-host so I can still make that extra cash while also making it easy on myself. Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host. You know, there was this one time before I did my own money rehab when I checked my credit score and I realized I had no idea what it actually meant for my financial future. That's when it hit me. It was time to get serious about my money. We've all had that moment, right? When

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Hey everybody, now that we've done the wrap up on what the heck's going on, episode 9,487, please stay tuned for one of my favorite interviews of the year from 2024. It's coming right at you. Hey everybody, it's me, The Uncensored Wall Street, from the balcony at the New York Stock Exchange. You know I bring you food, finance, fashion, and I've never brought you real estate before, but today is something special, okay? I'm here with Jade.

Shanker. Shanker like Shanker. Like Shanker. Like Shanker. You don't even need to think about it too much. Look, let's go back probably five, ten years ago. I'm sure you've all watched Million Dollar Listings. I know I used to binge watch it with my son. Right? Ryan Serhan. Let's talk about it. New York. Real estate. Retail. Commercial. Anyway, this wonderful lady who I recently met is a groundbreaking commercial real estate expert.

agent. OK, but she's so much more than that. We're going to let her tell her story. It's a human interest story in so many ways. You know, I love to tell let people tell their stories about how they got here, what it was like, what it's like now and what the future looks for them. We're here on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. There are thousands of companies here. Many of them are in the real estate space, whether it's REITs, real estate investment trusts,

whether it's huge companies that are commercial real estate companies and whatnot, but it's all about the deal, right? It's all about the deal, making a deal, making bids, making offers. That's what's exciting. That's what gets us up in the morning. We always tell you, I always tell you to go out there and find something you love to do, get really good at it, and then you will never work a day in your life. And I think that's what we have here with my new friend, Jane. Welcome. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you for having me. Okay, that is, I think the,

one of the best intros I've ever had. So thank you. And this is probably the coolest place I've ever been. I mean, just the photos that you were showing me upstairs, I feel so grateful, especially because women who weren't allowed to vote were here. Correct. And,

women who weren't even allowed to have cigarettes, right? Is that right? - Correct, and think about it. So this building was built in 1903. They started trading outside this building in 1650. Already in the 1650s, there were 26 brokers that used to

trade commodities on the bottom of Manhattan. So Wall Street used to be, there was a wall and above the wall was just forest. And that's where George Washington was inaugurated. But this is the heart of the financial district. You loved the deal, the art of the deal. So let's talk about it. Tell me a little bit about you.

Well, I am a commercial real estate agent and I'm also in the reality TV space on a show called Owning Manhattan on Netflix with Ryan Serhant and a bunch of other real estate agents. And I'm the only commercial agent and the reason that I got into it was because my family, I come from a long line of real estate developers and they've always been male, male, male. And I mean, since I was a teenager, all my dad taught me was there's always a way to get something done. Yeah.

So I mean, I would cold call, you probably remember this, but the Village Voice, before there was Craigslist, before there was any sort of internet presence. - Classifies in the back, there were two pages. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, it's very cool. - And he used to have me go through the Village Voice to do for sale by owner and try to negotiate these deals when I was 14 years old. So I always saw an opportunity to be like, okay, well, number one,

how do we get a deal done? Right? How do we understand the other person on the side of the deal and what they need in order to get it done? So being a little bit more intuitive to that. And then also, how do we take a building, especially in a market like right now, that it's,

Commercial's tough. Commercial is not at the place where it was in 2019 where everyone was leasing out office space. The world changed. Think about WeWork. Think about how that's changed. Think about how COVID changed all that and the whole landscape of the real estate market has changed. And coming from an owner's perspective, I've always been so frustrated because I'm like, well, we have this building, we have these spaces. Why aren't we marketing it in a way that's hitting people globally, that's actually getting people's attention? So

I saw Ryan Serhant's way of marketing and doing YouTube and videos and having events and I was like, "Well, why aren't we taking this amazing residential approach and why aren't we bringing it to commercial?" Because commercial is what?

Two or six trillion dollar industry. Why has no one done that and I was like well, okay Let me try and I mean the the faces I used to get from other brokers. They're like, oh my gosh What is she wearing? What is she doing? But I'm like well, well your opinion is is completely valid and I understand that but I

you're talking about it, right? - Exactly. - So you're not talking about that other building. - Good one, there's no such thing as a bad review. If somebody's talking about what you're doing, then you're getting a point across. - Exactly, and what I saw was the more people talked about something, the higher the SEO was on it and the shares. And you know what, it just takes one person, one person to be like, wow, okay, that girl who threw an event in that commercial space, that commercial space actually

you know, this person's looking for a commercial space. Can I connect her? Or you know what? I actually like that she brought 130 people to come see this building or her YouTube video hit 1.5 million people between the United States, South Africa, Dubai, Israel. And maybe she is onto something. And that's what I kept on doing. And I was like, you know what? I'm just, I'm going to listen to my gut.

And I know what I'm doing. And I kept on doing that. And we were able to put a lot of buildings under contract at record prices. I mean, even like last year, I think the average price per square foot in Union Square was like $600, anywhere between $400 and $600 a square foot. We sold a commercial condo for...

just under $1,300 a square foot because we, it's crazy. You know, so I know that, you know, it's still early and people are still adopting this new way of marketing. Is this a new way? So tell me, I need to ask. So look, I read about you. I was wanting to find out more about you and there are obviously stories about your dad, right? So tell me that. Give me a little, I mean, you obviously, are you, do you have siblings? No, I,

I'm an only child. You're an only child. So are you the daughter that your father had that he really wanted you to get into the business he was in, but he wasn't sure if it was going to be a business that a woman could break into? Or were you the son that your father never had and it was a different thing? Tell me about that. Because we all are a function of our family. Like my father, Eastern European Jews came to America after the Holocaust. I was going to be the doctor that he went on to become. It just wasn't my calling.

Tell me about that for you. Yeah. Obviously growing up under your father's, he was a real estate person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So same thing, my grandfather and my great-grandfather, they came here from Eastern Europe, from the Holocaust, and they were very strict about,

Were they in real estate? They were in real estate. They came here and got in real estate. So early part of the century. Early part. And then they came here, and my dad was like, you know what, there's something to lower Manhattans. And that was whenever East Village was like super...

Like in the slums. You could buy a building for $100. Yep, yep, exactly. So he bought a lot of things in the East Village, in Little Italy. Avenue A and all that. Right down the street on John Street. So what year was that? That was in the 70s. In the 70s. So he bought... That was just when people started buying things like that. Yeah, a block for half a million dollars. Yep, you could. And he went against the grain for the family because they were more conservative. Right. And back then, he was dealing with the mafia. He was dealing with artists who were...

shooting things. It was just a crazy thing. - If you think about the Lower East Side in the 1970s, that's Andy Warhol, Basquiat, drugs, storefronts, building fronts. You used to be able to walk down Avenue A and there was literally, it was just rats, the buildings weren't even there anymore. It was just the facade and people and bums living behind there, right? - Yeah, it was crazy. - And nobody had the vision, obviously your dad did,

Nobody, if you ask anybody, we're not going to touch this with a 10 foot pole. This is going to be dead forever. There's no future to this neighborhood. And if you think about it now, it's like, why didn't I think of that? I could have, would have, should have like that mentality. So your father did that.

How amazing is that? I mean, it was crazy. But his stories, I mean, dealing with people who weren't paying rent that were going to hit him with a baseball bat, and dealing with that. You have to have chutzpah. Yeah, huge. You know? The Schenkers have chutzpah. Let's be clear about that. You have to have it. And he always wanted a boy. You know? There you go. Yeah, he always wanted a boy. It's okay. My family is males, males, males, males, males, and you have to keep the family name as well. Yeah. And...

he had a girl and he was like okay well it's it's different and and the way I was raised was okay because I'm an only child he had to teach me the business because that's you know you have to but at the same time it was always well you know jade you don't have to work and get married and I got married early I did I got divorced early too there you go give me five on that one you know and and it

First in, first out. Let's go. Life of FIFO. That's the way to go. I think it's, honestly, it was a great learning experience. When you come to negotiate, you know, I turn my real estate brand on and I'm like, okay, well, let's really discuss how to get a deal done. Right. Whether it's that or separation, whatever it is. But, you know, I think. You got out of that deal. You got in, you got out. Let's move on. Let's go. It's good. I have it under my belt. It's okay, yeah.

And I think at an early age, I was always just trying to be like, "Well, how do I prove to my dad, like, number one, I know what I'm doing, and I understand, I have a competitive advantage because I listen and I'm creative, and I'm not afraid to take a risk. I actually, I seek risks." And I'm like, "Well, if someone is doing something a certain way, there's always a way to get better and do things differently."

Because I'm very confident in that space, I'm like, you know what? What's needed? What's needed on both sides? And I kind of saw spaces aren't being marketed to the capacity they can be, right? Commercial, for sure. Commercial, specifically. We think about that. Sorry to interrupt you, but we think about the whole real estate market. Think about just residential real estate, how it's marketed. I'm sure everybody who's watching this has watched some kind of a real estate show, whether it's...

million dollar listings in New York or out west. I mean you stage an apartment, right? And you do it in a different way. So residential is always way different than commercial. So you've taken the commercial thing to a whole nother level. I just want to talk about your confidence for a minute. 'Cause that's something, risk first of all, confidence another thing. These are things you can't really teach somebody.

Right? I thrive on risk and it gives me confidence. That ability. I started here on Wall Street in 1985. Some people say 1885. But that sense of the adrenaline around this place, the excitement, the risk, right? The chaos. I thrived on that. For me, that was where I found my energy and I found my confidence. Some people shy away from that. Some people need to wake up, have a coffee, read the paper before they do. Right? You seem to me like somebody more like me.

You come out of the gate, you're like a thoroughbred horse just running for it because you just know what you want. Right? You found something you love to do. Yeah. You'll never work a day in your life. Oh my God, I love it. I always say it's like, and you probably know it more than anyone. It's like, I don't believe in work-life balance. I believe in work-life integration. So integrating every aspect of your life into your work. And I love, that's why whenever I met you, I was like, just, I felt so inspired. Because I was like, who else? You're in the right place. This place is...

embraced you from the minute you walked in it because of those qualities that you had. Yeah, I want to have an impact and I want to be able to touch people because yes, there's the deal and we think about, okay, you know, this is a building, this is someone trying to buy a building, but who are the people behind that deal? What do they need? You know, people don't realize, and maybe I saw this at an early age, and that's people's livelihoods. Whether it's a private equity firm and there's families or if it's an owner who bought something back in the 70s who's

you know, now in his 80s and he wants to sell. You know, like those are things that really have such an impact on me. So yes, it's a business savvy. It's the adrenaline of creating something and showing someone how they can make money from what one person sees as four walls or if you can

convert that vision into a valuable asset and showcase what you can do in space, get creative. Like that is what my serotonin, my dopamine is just like throws it off. That's why I don't sleep.

By the same time. We're going to work on that. I know we are. But like there is a beautiful emotional aspect to it where like I'm able to help people and, you know. So you're a humanist. I love it. See, that's how I look at it. Yeah. Right? You're talking about the deal and the deal has a lot of all this chatter around it. But at the end of the day, it's two people talking about something. And then you get, the more you know about them, you sort of start to describe in the beginning of this interview. Yeah.

about how you don't know where people are coming from and what this deal means to them but the way to close the deal is about

Getting into where they're at on this deal and making connection to them. It's about trust It's about confidence and it's about them understanding that you're you have a vested interest in this being a good deal for everybody Right, you're able to walk away from the deal. Everybody's satisfied. Yeah, exactly And sometimes I feel like that and you probably know this more than anyone sometimes you just have to get creative You got to you know, yeah, like not not every deal is cookie cutter and like I

It's not just sometimes the things that you see, but the things you don't see and listening and understanding people and being mindful of, okay, what are the other factors in this? And I feel like that's been something that I'm really cognizant of and always trying to

make measurable actions towards. And you've done that. So tell me, so the way you're approaching commercial real estate is obviously gotten the attention of Ryan and obviously got attention of the industry. And so you have this show, right? It's called? It's called Owning Manhattan on Netflix. Okay. So talk to me about that. Season one was wild. And, you know, I was going through like a

massive personal shift. I think it was really cool because yes, people see the selling sunsets, they see the million dollar listings, but at the same time-- - They're seeing your life too. - Yeah, they're seeing, and all of our lives, it's commission, it's deals, it's no sleep, but there's personal aspects to it too.

What are people going through in life behind the deal? Look, you have a social media platform and you have a work platform, as do I. And it's not an easy thing to really open up about people's lives and people's struggles, right? That makes you vulnerable. But at the end of the day, being vulnerable in front of lots of people

it gets across a different message, right? And people are able to identify. They're not comparing, "Oh my God, she's beautiful. She's got this. Maybe she was given all this silver spoon, all that." No. You're showing your vulnerability. You're showing that you're a human being going through having an experience

And that makes you so much more attractive in that way. People will identify with your story. People who have gone through what you're going through. Maybe you're going to inspire, I pretty much guarantee that on this show, you're going to inspire other people who have gone through things to know that they can get through that, that they can go on to find their dream job and find their dream career and find something that moves them and motivates them to be able to

Be vulnerable, keep going, break barriers and do all that stuff, irrespective of what's going on. Yeah, thank you so much. And it's not every day that I get to meet people like you that truly, really, I mean, going upstairs and seeing just your involvement and the history of what you've been through, like that really touched. I think I almost went in tears, like seeing that room of just how many things have happened here and what you've been involved in and what you do, because I think you're

Taking a different approach to what has been you know a traditional industry and and you're making it interesting and making it fun and showcasing life. Making it human. You know, it's a different that's how we get our message. It's a matter of telling your story, right? That's what I love to do. People will look at you and judge you and you know make comments or whatever it may be but you don't get a point across and you don't really make impact on

unless you tell your story and let people know who you are. That's the point. We're here for not a long time, right? But we're here for a good time. You want to get your message across. You want to move people and impact people. It's not a matter of how many who dies are the most toys. It's a matter of how many lives you can impact while you're here, right? It sounds to me that was probably your father's message, even your grandfather, right? Immigrants coming to America went out and found stuff. They went up against it.

you know, buying houses on the Lower East Side in the 70s. Everyone told them they were out of their mind. And think of it now. I mean, that's that visionary part of this is what's exciting. Yeah. And you seem like you're a visionary. Yeah, I love it. I mean, that's why I'm here. You know, it's I there's an Australian saying I didn't come here to fuck spiders. It means it means that I didn't know. What does that mean?

It means that I didn't come here just to be here. I didn't come here to just be another, you know, stick figure in the whole scheme of things. No, I came here to do something. I came here to inspire or to touch someone. Motivate, create, motivate, and inspire. Create, motivate, and inspire. CMI. CMI. Okay, so what's the future look like?

What's the future look like? What's it look like for you, for Jade? If I may, you're 28 years old. You've done a lot for 28 years old. Thank you. Right? You're obviously in the commercial real estate business. You're working with the best people in the industry, right? In a big way. You have this wonderful show. You've been married. You've been divorced. You have wonderful things to look forward to in the future. What's next? I hope to be able to focus on more trophy assets. You know, I love what I do now, but if I'm able to do that for a

a property that's, you know, in the hundred millions and the 200 millions, like that is so cool to me. And to be able to just... It's not the money though part, it's more than that. Legacy. Yeah. You know, I think, I think like that's so important to me. At the end of the day, my dad's in his early 80s or mid 80s now. He had me when he was a little bit older. Right. And he has dementia now. And I just, I...

to go back home and see him and see the smile on his face whenever he sees all of that stuff and he knows that I'm living his legacy. - So he was aware enough to be super proud of you of all the things you've done in his industry? - Yeah. - Has he? - Oh my God, yeah, the smile on his face every time I tell him, like, "Dad, I sold a building." - Must be amazing. - And he saw me on Netflix for the first time. - It must be incredible. - He just started tearing. He actually teared, there's one scene where a girl, I go to an event

And this girl goes, she's like, you just came here to show off your stupid outfit. And he chuckled because he's like, he knows me. He's like, yeah, she did. Exactly. There you go. Check it out. You too. This is it. This is my costume. You know, my family name and making him proud and also a different type of asset. I would love the opportunity to focus on those assets and try to strategize around that because I just think it's so fun and I have so much energy and I just, that would be the next thing.

the next step for me. - Awesome. - Yeah. - Well, you know what, look, for me, I come here and I bring people up to this balcony for them to tell their story. And the most important for me is for them to motivate and inspire other people to be their best self, to find something they love to do, to go out there and get other people to, look, we are living in this really kind of wild, crazy world, right? Obviously you've had, you know, you've had some obstacles along the way. Think about this, you know, like COVID, post COVID,

Right? I mean, that really threw everybody. You were what? You were 23 years old. Right? So many people have...

There's so many people who have gone through so much spiritually with mental illness, with a lot of obstacles in their lives over the last five years. And to be able to have the excitement that you have for what you do, to have broken so many barriers in an industry that is, right? That's great. Thank you. You're disrupting the heck out of whatever you're doing. Yeah. And you're coming out of it with a smile. So I'm really happy you're here with me and telling your story. Thank you so much.

I appreciate it so much, really. - And you're here on Wall Street. And really, Wall Street's embracing you in a big way. Think about it, right? - This is so surreal. - We started the conversation as no, I'm a firm believer and I always tell young people who ask me about, you know, how do you get to there? There's no door that you can't knock on. The worst that you're gonna get is somebody saying no, right? We learn so much more from our failures than we do from our successes.

It's not a matter of how many times you get knocked down. It's a matter of how many times you get back up and keep moving, right? And I'm sure you've had that happen to you along the way. And I love being told there's no way you're going to succeed at that. You can't do that. And I love proving them wrong. And you've clearly proved everybody wrong. Jade Shanker, kicking ass, taking names. I love you. And that's all I got to say about that.

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