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Can the President Impact Interest Rates?

2024/11/15
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Key Insights

Why can't the President directly control interest rates?

The President does not have direct control over interest rates; the Federal Reserve, led by the Chair Jerome Powell, sets these rates independently.

How does the Federal Reserve's interest rate impact consumer rates like mortgages?

While the Fed's rate affects short-term interest rates, mortgage rates typically follow the 10-year bond yield more closely, which can move independently of the Fed's rate.

What could President Trump do to influence interest rates if he wanted to lower them?

Trump could pressure the Fed to lower rates or attempt to replace Jerome Powell with someone more favorable to rate cuts, though Powell's term extends until 2026.

Why might Trump's policies potentially lead to higher inflation rather than lower?

Policies like tax cuts, tariffs, and mass deportations could increase government spending, reduce revenue, and drive up production costs, all of which can contribute to inflation.

How does the President's control over gas prices impact inflation?

The President has limited control over gas prices; while policies can influence production and reserves, market forces and global oil prices largely determine gas prices.

What role do tariffs play in influencing inflation?

Tariffs increase the cost of imported goods, which can lead to higher prices for consumers and potentially trigger retaliatory tariffs from other countries, further driving up costs.

How can investors protect themselves from inflation?

Investors can balance their portfolios with a mix of stocks and bonds, adjusting the percentage of bonds based on their age, to mitigate the risks associated with inflation.

Chapters

This chapter explores the relationship between the President and the Federal Reserve, focusing on Trump's promises to lower interest rates and the role of Fed Chair Jerome Powell.
  • Trump cannot directly control interest rates; the Fed Chair and board have that authority.
  • Jerome Powell's background and relationship with Trump are discussed.
  • The Fed's interest rate decisions affect short-term rates more directly than long-term rates.

Shownotes Transcript

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been a lot of movement on wall street since trump on the election, including the fed's second rate cuts since the period of covered area inflation insanity. Now everyone is trying to predict the future and make adjustments around what economic policies they think trump will actually put into place in january.

For example, some companies like Steve mountin have already started to move away from production in china and preparing for trumps terrace. Another economic promise trump has made is lowering interest rates. But before we start acting on that assumption, we need to talk about whether or not trump can actually make good on this promise.

Because here's the thing, trump isn't the decision maker when IT comes to interest strates r guy, when IT comes to interest rates, is jero pal, aka j pal, the girl man of the federal reserve trumping jail? Have hands some exchanges in the press lately that see a level testy, so we might forget their history. But trump actually gave j.

Pal his job. j. Pal has been in the game for a while. He served as assistant secretary and under secretary of the treasury under bush senior, and spent about a decade as a partner at the coral al group, which is one of the leading investment firm specializing in private equity, the cowder of coral al group.

David Robinson and came on the show, and he was surprisingly funny, I will say, in a pe kind of way. Anyway, after leaving Carole in two thousand and five, how worked as a partner at other investment firms. Eventually he got his government routes through a pretty untraditional pop.

He became a visiting scholar at the bipartisan policy center. There he was paid a symbolic one dollar per year to go around D, C, convincing republicans to raise the debt ceiling without causing a government shut down. Obama ominous him to the fed board into twenty twelve, and trump appointed him chair into one eighteen.

So even though trump appointed him just six years ago, pale has been in and out of washington for decades. Why is j. Pal's resume worth noting? Well, first, I think the one dollar salary thing is just a boss move.

IT is rare when someone says, you can know what, I have enough money, I am good. But also, IT helps have the full picture of the relationship between trump and jahal and how they might do IT out when trump is warn into office next year. When trump talks about lowering interest strates for americans, he talks about targeting the upstream interest rate of the federate, but the president can set the fed rates only jail, and the rest of the fed board control that.

With the bed all over the news in last few years, you can probably do a whole episode on this yourself for a memory. But the interest rate that the fed sets is the rate banks charge each other for overnight loans, that is IT IT is not your interest rate, IT is not your mortgage rate, IT is not your car alone, or even the treasury bond rate. Of course, your interest rates are affected downstream by the feed rate, but it's not always immediate and it's not going to be the same as the fed rate lets up look like on what we're seeing downstream.

The that has been lowing interest rates and signaling its intent to keep doing so, which is good news for short term interest rates. Longer term rates, however, are connected to bond yield, not the feed rate bond yield. Ds are the interest ate that investors expect to be paid for lending money to the government.

Typically the federate and the bond iee. Move together, but right now they're not. The federate is going down, but bond rates are rising as investors bad that the truman administration may need to borrow heavily to fund itself, especially if tax cuts are on the horizon.

But more on that injustice. CT mortgage rates usually trend with the ten year bond de more than the feed rate. So if the federate is falling, unfortunately, mortgage rates might not follow.

Basically Normally, federates, bonier, ds and mortar rates move all in the same direction. But right now, feed rates are moving in one direction, and bond rates and therefore mortgage rates are moving in the opposite direction. So if rates don't go down vast enough, what could jump actually do? Well, he could pressure the fed to lower rates.

And if he goes nuclear, he could pressure j how to resign and then release him with someone more favorable toward dramatic, great cuts. But when asked if he would resign if drummed, demanded IT, japheth simply said no. He pointed out that trump s doesn't have the power to fire him or other board members.

Drum has made IT clear that he won't reappoint jay pal, but pales time secure until twenty twenty six, so he's got a fair amount of time left plus j out is in a uniquely strong position. He is clearly got some fu money. The man opted to work for a single dollar for a couple of years.

He's also got their respective while story who see him as one of their own, and he's got political backing from years of policy work on capital hill. One thing trump can do, however, is announced j house successor early, which could undermine j POS orties at least a little. But how much difference make is unclear.

Again, the best thing for trump to do might be to do nothing at all. Right now, the expectation is for the food to keep lowering rates, but this could change if inflation expectations rise under trump, because if inflation rises, interest rates will get jacked back up to curb Prices. For now, though, inflation is falling, I know IT doesn't feel that way.

That's because for Prices to actually go down, we would need to go through deflationary period, and that hasn't happened. IT is unlikely to happen unless we go through a serious recession or depression, which means that Prices will continue to increase, although not as rapidly as they have and hopefully in line with wage increases. While interest rates are the go to lever for affecting inflation, there are other strategies trump has that sit more squarely in the president's preview drum.

Pez promised to beat inflation by lowering gas Prices, cutting taxes, beginning mass y potations and raising terabits. Let's break that all down. First gas places.

Lowering gas Prices is a ground pleaser, but it's a hard move to pull off. The president's control here is limited because energy companies are private and the us. Already produces a lot of oil.

The president can influence gas Prices through policies by supporting increased oil production in the U. S, which, you know, he's into hands real baby drill stance by releasing petroleum from the strategic petroleum reserve. Or he could subsidize gas in some way, but we always end up paying for subsidies in one way or the other.

The government has their own books to baLance. But when you adjust for inflation, gas Prices are already pretty low, not like the lowest, but still lower than their high points in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve. Realistically, it's unlikely he can really help move this number, but if he can, that's an improvement that would help americans.

Second, taxes. Tax cuts can backfire because they increase the amount of money in circulation in the economy too much, which is a precursor to inflation. Plus, fewer taxes mean less revenue for government spending.

So the solution often shifts to printing more money. But when the government does that, the dollar becomes worth less and less. When governments print more money, they bring down the value of the currency, which leads to you get that inflation.

So as much as we all hate taxes, they're a keep heart of what makes our money worth anything at all. Done has suggested that the government will not have to print more money because the income from his increased terrace will cover the money the government loses from tax cuts. So let's talk about number three, those.

I did a whole deep dive on this in another episode that i've linked in the show notes. But trumps tariff policy is the least popular of trumps policies in economist circles there of our taxes on imported goods paid for by importers. For instance, trump threatened john deer with a two hundred percent tariff.

If IT moves production to mexico from the united states, that would basically mean that were every tractor produced in mexico and then brought back to the u. To sell, john deer would have to pay a two hundred percent tax. This tactic might prevent companies from outsourcing, which will drive up Prices.

Imagine, for example, if apple suddenly had to pay a sixty percent year of on every iphone imported to the us. The result, higher races for us, the consumers. Terrorists often lead to retaliatory tariff s from other countries, which drives up Prices even more.

Even producing that same phone here in the us can lead to higher Prices as production costs are higher. Whether companies keep production local or abroad, Prices are likely to rise of terriers. Go up last, the number four, mass importations.

There is so much be said about this, especially the ethical and moral implications, but right now we're just going to follow the numbers. Deportations are problematic for many reasons, but they could end up driving up inflation, particularly in industries like agriculture and construction, which rely heavily on undocumented labor. If this workforce shrinks, wages might rise as company is scramble to fill gaps, driving up the Price of food, housing and more so, net, net IT is possible that trumps policies could actually raise Prices, not lower them.

But in every economy, there is always an opportunity to make money, even in inflationary environment. If you know where to look for today's step, you can take straight to the bank. Stocks are staring right now, which is fantastic.

But that might mean you a portfolio is leaning two heavily towards stocks and not toward lower risk investments like bombs. s. Take this as a reminder to check your report fully o baLance, if you don't have an investment plan, here's a quick rule of them. Let your age determine the percentage of bonds you hold. So if you're thirty years old, your portfolio would be thirty percent bonds and seventy .

percent stocks.

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