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Kaitlan Collins: Still Surreal

2024/10/3
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Jack Smith's detailed filing provides a comprehensive view of Trump's actions and mindset during the January 6th events. It reveals Trump's apparent indifference to Pence's safety, his mocking of Sidney Powell, and his engagement with Fox News coverage while the Capitol was under attack.
  • Trump seemed "giddy" about the events unfolding on January 6th.
  • Trump dismissed concerns about Pence's safety with "So what?"
  • Trump watched Fox News coverage of the events and tweeted about Pence's lack of courage shortly after.
  • Trump privately mocked Sidney Powell while publicly supporting her claims.
  • Jack Smith's team has forensic data from Trump's phone, revealing his activity on Twitter and other apps during the events.

Shownotes Transcript

Jack Smith's filing on Jan 6 reads almost like a novel—with Trump shrugging about Pence having to be evacuated, mocking true believer Sidney Powell, and implicating himself with a damning phone-data footprint. Plus, life as a CNN anchor, the evolution of conservative media, and no, Megyn, Kaitlan is an Alabama girl. 

Kaitlan Collins joins Tim Miller.