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Beijing Prepares for Economic Warfare

2024/12/10
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宾夕法尼亚州州长乔什·夏皮罗谴责了枪杀联合健康公司高管的嫌疑人,并呼吁恢复文明的公共讨论,谴责暴力行为,维护社会秩序和公共安全。他认为嫌疑人的行为是懦弱的,而不是英雄行为,呼吁社会理性讨论分歧,避免暴力事件再次发生。 参议员汤姆·科顿警告美国企业不要阻挠特朗普政府对中国的关税行动,并表示如果企业为中国游说,将会面临反击。他认为特朗普政府对加拿大和墨西哥的关税威胁是一种有效的谈判策略,但对中国的措施则不同,他支持废除中国的永久最惠国待遇。科顿的观点强硬,旨在维护美国利益,对中国采取强硬措施,并警告美国企业不要介入其中。 杰森·道格拉斯解释了取消中国的最惠国待遇意味着更高的关税和更大的不确定性,这可能会迫使跨国公司将业务迁出中国。他分析了这一政策对美国企业和全球贸易的影响,指出取消最惠国待遇将导致更高的关税,增加贸易的不确定性,并可能迫使企业将业务迁出中国。这将对全球经济产生深远的影响,并对美国的经济政策和国际关系产生重大影响。 格奥尔吉·坎切夫报道了中国正在研究俄罗斯规避西方制裁的策略,以应对潜在的台海冲突。他分析了中国学习俄罗斯经验的策略,包括在制裁实施前做好准备,以及建立联盟的重要性,以及保护供应链的重要性。坎切夫的报道揭示了中国为应对潜在的经济制裁所做的准备,以及中俄两国在应对西方制裁方面的合作。

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Why is China studying Russia's sanctions-evasion strategies?

China is preparing for potential economic warfare over Taiwan, aiming to create a toolkit to mitigate the impact of Western sanctions in case of conflict.

What are some lessons China has learned from Russia's sanctions experience?

China has learned the importance of diversifying foreign reserves, building financial infrastructure, forming coalitions, and protecting global supply chains to mitigate the effects of sanctions.

How has China-Russia trade evolved since the start of the Ukraine war?

China-Russia trade has significantly increased, with China becoming a crucial partner for Russia in evading Western sanctions.

What is the significance of the most-favored-nation status for China?

Losing most-favored-nation status would result in higher tariffs on Chinese goods and create uncertainty for businesses operating in China, potentially forcing companies to relocate operations.

What was the outcome of Rupert Murdoch's attempt to change his media empire's control?

Murdoch's attempt to give control of his media assets to his oldest son Lachlan was rejected by a Nevada probate commissioner, with his other children opposing the change.

How did Canada respond to U.S. tariffs in 2018?

Canada imposed targeted tariffs on U.S. products like Kentucky bourbon and Harley-Davidson motorcycles to pressure key states, leading to a deal to drop tariffs in 2019.

What is Senator Tom Cotton's stance on U.S. tariffs on China?

Cotton supports revoking China's most-favored-nation status and warned businesses not to lobby against the measure, emphasizing the need for economic pressure on China.

What challenges did Russia face despite its economic preparations for sanctions?

Russia found itself still reliant on Western parts for manufacturing, leading to issues like producing cars without airbags during the initial phase of sanctions.

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This chapter covers the arrest and charges against Luigi Mangione for the murder of UnitedHealth executive Brian Thompson. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's comments and a statement from UnitedHealth are included.
  • Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old former tech worker, was charged with murder.
  • Mangione was arraigned and denied bail in Pennsylvania.
  • Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro credited local law enforcement for the arrest.
  • UnitedHealth hoped the arrest would bring relief to Thompson's family.

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Senator Tom Cotton warns U.S. businesses not to get in the way of Donald Trump's China tariff push, plus how Beijing is using Russia as a real-life case study to prepare for economic warfare.

Russia has found ways to dodge various penalties imposed by the West. And the goal is to have a toolkit in case the West imposes similar penalties on China. And a setback in Rupert Murdoch's bid to change who will control his media assets when he dies. It's Tuesday, December 10th. I'm Luke Vargas for The Wall Street Journal. And here is the AM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories moving your world today.

We begin in Manhattan, where prosecutors overnight charged 26-year-old Luigi Mangione with murder in the killing of UnitedHealth executive Brian Thompson. Mangione, a former tech worker, was arraigned and denied bail yesterday in Pennsylvania after being arrested and charged separately with a range of lesser offenses.

Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro credited local law enforcement for apprehending Mangione, and he challenged the folk hero status the suspect had earned among some members of the public for striking a blow against America's health insurers. The suspect here who shot at that CEO and killed that CEO is a coward, not a hero.

And we need to make sure that in this country, we get back to having a civil discourse about our differences. A United Health spokesman said they hoped Mangione's arrest would bring some relief to Thompson's family and others. We report that Rupert Murdoch has lost his bid to give control of his media empire to his oldest son Lachlan when he dies, rather than dividing it among four children.

According to people familiar with the matter, the 93-year-old media mogul's attempt to amend a trust holding the family's assets, which include roughly 40 percent voting stakes in Wall Street Journal owner News Corp. and Fox News parent Fox Corp., was rejected by a Nevada probate commissioner.

Three of Murdoch's other children, James, Elizabeth, and Prudence, who stood to lose voting power, opposed the change, and a representative for them said they welcomed the commissioner's decision. An attorney for Rupert Murdoch said he plans to appeal.

Well, the battle lines of the incoming Trump administration's trade fights are taking further shape this week. In America's backyard, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is vowing to retaliate with tariffs on the U.S. if Donald Trump places a 25% levy on imports from Canada, as he's pledged to do.

That would mirror what happened in 2018 when Ottawa responded to U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs with targeted levies on products like Kentucky bourbon and Harley-Davidson motorcycles that were designed to pressure members of Congress from key states before a deal to drop tariffs was struck in 2019. Trudeau yesterday called Trump's proposed tariffs unfair, but in remarks courtesy of CTV expressed a hope that cooler heads might prevail.

President-elect Trump got elected on a commitment to make life better and more affordable for Americans. And I think people south of the border are beginning to wake up to the reality that tariffs on everything from Canada would make life a lot more expensive.

from for Americans. Trudeau visited Trump at Mar-a-Lago last month to talk trade, the kind of bilateral engagement that U.S. Senator Tom Cotton sees as validating Trump's approach to tariffs. Speaking at the WSJ's CEO Council Summit yesterday, the Arkansas Republican called Trump's tariff threats directed at countries like Canada and Mexico an effective negotiating tactic.

However, he described promised U.S. measures against Beijing as a horse of a different color and said he has legislation backed by Trump and Secretary of State nominee Marco Rubio that would revoke China's permanent most favored nation status. And he warned executives gathered for the event in Washington not to get in the way. I really don't want to see any of your companies or you lobbying next year against our bill to repeal most favored nation status.

And I'll just say, if you get in the ring on China's behalf, you should expect to be punched. I asked journal Asia economics reporter Jason Douglas what such a change would mean. The most favored nation status is what you grant to all countries with whom you don't have a free trade agreement. So it's a sort of baseline for global trade. Removing that status means you automatically shift to another list of tariffs, and those are all an awful lot higher. The only other countries that

face these kind of tariffs are pariahs of one sort or another, Russia, Belarus, North Korea and Cuba. So the immediate effect would be lots of higher tariffs on all sorts of Chinese goods and much more leeway for the US administration to raise or lower those tariffs as it saw fit.

But the bigger impact is that this would create this huge sort of uncertainty around operating out of China, because what it means is that tariffs on imports from China would be subject to an annual review, which means that if you were a business and you wanted to plan for your operations in the next few years, you just simply couldn't do that. So one of the effects of this and one of the goals, perhaps, of those people advocating it is that you would force multinationals and US companies in particular to move their operations out of China. So will the Senate pass Cotton's bill? To

Tune in tomorrow morning as congressional reporter Siobhan Hughes joins us to discuss where members of Congress stand on the hallmark items on Trump's to-do list. And in markets news today, Treasury yields are rising as investors await tomorrow's release of U.S. inflation data, a key report ahead of next week's Fed interest rate decision. Traders are growing more confident about a rate cut after the latest jobs report showed unemployment ticking higher.

Well, coming up, potential Trump tariffs aren't the only economic dangers that China is bracing for. We'll discuss how policymakers in Beijing are studying Russia's efforts to evade Western sanctions and what they've learned after the break.

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Learn more at IBM.com slash WatsonX. IBM, let's create. In a journal exclusive, Georgi Kanchev and Lingling Wei report that Chinese officials are studying Russia's efforts to evade Western sanctions with a very specific goal in mind.

drawing lessons that could be useful if a conflict over Taiwan prompts economic warfare targeting Beijing. And Georgi joins me now with more from Berlin. Georgi, tell us what you've learned about how this is all taking place. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, ultimately, China and Russia have grown closer over the course of the Ukraine war. We know over the past almost three years, Russia has found ways to dodge various penalties imposed by the West, and that's of great interest to China.

What we've learned from people familiar with the effort is that there's interagency groups set up by China in the months kind of following the full-scale war against Ukraine. They're looking at sanctions impacts in Russia. They're looking at Russia's mitigation strategies. They often visit Moscow to meet with Russian officials. And the goal is indeed to have almost like a blueprint, a toolkit in case there is a Taiwan contingency. They call it an extreme scenario of an armed conflict.

But they do caution that it doesn't mean that the country is ready for any invasion anytime soon. I should note that the Russian Central Bank and the Russian Finance Ministry didn't respond to requests for comment on this story, while the Chinese Foreign Ministry did respond, but said that, quote, the country has always been committed to conducting normal exchanges and cooperation with all countries around the world, including Russia, on the basis of equality and mutual benefit, end quote.

Let's get into the meat of it then, Georgi. What are some of the lessons that Chinese officials are coming away from Russia with and how applicable could those lessons be?

be for China? China could be taking, drawing a lot of lessons from the Russian experience here. Number one, of course, is the preparation even before any sanctions are imposed. Russia had for years been diversifying its foreign reserves, trying to de-dollarize to build its own financial plumbing with mixed success, we have to say, but it did

buy some time for Moscow in the initial phase of the invasion, and that obviously helped them to safeguard the economy. What we've also seen, and this is really important for China, is that coalitions are really valuable here. The West was able to come together, impose unprecedented sanctions on Russia. At the same time, Moscow was able to couple together a smaller coalition of its friends, including China, Iran, North Korea, and

And specifically, the China-Russia trade has indeed increased a lot during the war.

That relationship since the start of the war has gone more in the benefit of Russia, though, has it not? And that's exactly the other point here, absolutely, is that Russia would not be able to be as much of a help to China as China is to Russia right now. The lesson for China is that they need to find those other players that would be helpful. And that's why China is, of course, as we know, going around the world, investing and bringing benefits to various countries.

really around the globe. But again, it's really important to have a global list of partners in such a sanction scenario. And there are a few more potential lessons, one of which we don't really have time to get into, but Moscow has owed a decent amount of its economic durability to its oil exports, not something so easily applicable to China, as far as I understand. Another, though, where we kind of split the difference, right? Sanctions could really disrupt the

domestic manufacturers that are connected to the global supply chain. That's something China is quite vulnerable on, if I understand correctly. And then you've got kind of on the flip side, the positive effect potentially of sanctions incentivizing domestic production, which given many of the headlines we have about the Chinese economy, it may be something they could fare a little bit better on. So it's a mixed bag across some of these other lessons, right?

It is a mixed bag, but protecting your supply chains is a big lesson for China here from the Russian side. Indeed, Russia has before the war tried for many years to make its economy self-sufficient. But when the sanctions actually hit, Russia did find itself still deeply reliant on Western parts. Indeed, when the car manufacturing Russia rebooted after the initial wobble of the sanctions, they made cars without airbags for a while, without other safety features. So that's a big lesson for China that supply chains are global and they need to protect them as well.

Gergely, lots of lessons there. And I guess we would imagine these visits will continue. There's still quite a bit more for Beijing to learn. Absolutely. China itself has been under sanctions from the U.S. for a number of years, of course, not as substantial as the ones on Russia. But

We do know, obviously, under President-elect Donald Trump in his second administration, he's planning to turbocharge the use of economic warfare. He's talking about tariffs a lot recently. And in such a world, China is likely to need those lessons even more. Georgi Kanchev is a foreign correspondent for The Wall Street Journal based in Berlin. Georgi, thank you so much for the update. Thank you.

And that's it for What's News for Tuesday morning. Additional sound in this episode was from Reuters. Today's show was produced by Kate Boulivant with supervising producer Christina Rocca, and I'm Luke Vargas for The Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with a new show. And until then, thanks for listening. ♪

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