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Dennis Quaid is one of the most famous actors in the world. He's been in about 150 movies spanning almost 50 years, and he is at the same time a really interesting and engaged person.
with a lot to say who thinks a lot and thinks freely. He's also an accomplished musician. But he has a project coming up that you probably ought to know about. We thought it was definitely worth telling you about. And so we're grateful that Dennis Quid is joining us on set right now. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, Tucker. We're so glad to be here. So, I mean, I could ask you a million questions, but I want to get right to the project that's coming up right now about our power grid project.
that you did. Can you just give us a quick overview of what this is and why did you do it? It's called Grid Down, Power Up. And it's about an issue which concerned me really for quite some time. They did a little segment on 60 Minutes about this, but basically there is a 100% probability that our sun generating what they call a GMD, which is a solar storm, that hits our solar system
Earth and the magnetic field that we have around the earth and can fry everything that is electric above the ground including our entire grid. And this would happen organically, naturally? That's just what the sun does? It has happened. There was a, they call it a Carrington event, which happened in, I think it was 1859. And at that time, basically we had telegraph lines as far as electricity goes. And it fried our entire
telegraph system that was set up had to be replaced. The entire thing? The entire thing. And so imagine what that would do now with a very large storm, which there's 100% chance of it happening. That was a 100-year event, they call that one. I'm not good at math, but 1859. But the trillions of dollars that it would take to replace all that, plus there wouldn't
We wouldn't even get to spend those trillions of dollars because it would take out not only the electricity, but all of our entire infrastructure and our society runs our electricity. We don't know how to live without it. There wouldn't be any water in your tap. You couldn't get gas for your car because the whole system is broken down. Everything that we rely upon would be gone.
The food would melt in our refrigerators. There would be, and they predict within a year, about 90% of the population would be dead from starvation, disease, or people, it gets back to the Stone Age again. Killing each other. Yeah.
Well, that's shocking. Yeah, so it's a bit of information. It really lifts your day, doesn't it? It does! I mean, I'm adding that to the Armageddon file that's growing. Nobody's really talking about it. And in fact, President Trump actually signed an executive order to harden our grid to protect ourselves against an event like this happening. Obama tried to get that going as well. And
It's stuck in these regulatory agencies that, you know, and lobbyists because money needs to be spent. Most of our grid power companies are privately owned and you can understand them not wanting to spend money on something that might occur. But this is definitely going to occur. And so it would mean, and this is not from a foreign adversary, this is just a solar cycle.
Well, we'll get to that in a minute. Okay, but we're starting with just what nature might do. Yeah, this is not what you call an enemy. This is the sun that we rely upon every day and these solar storms that happen. And they happen with frequency. And you've seen, everybody's seen pictures of the sun where the storm is happening and these flares come out and they're ejected out into the sky.
into the solar system and we just in like in packets and We I think it was 2014 we barely missed one by five days that went across our path of orbit around the Sun and It's going to happen and then you know once it hits the earth. There's a 50% probability of it either being us or the eastern hemisphere who's ever exposed to
that's the Sun. So is there anything that you can do I mean could you harden our electrical? Yes there are simple things that we could actually do to that could be built in that would you know not only for the military which we'll get to but civilian infrastructure to protect it that relatively inexpensive compared to what it would cost
if an event like this happened. And overall, over time, it'd probably be about $100 billion, about the same that we just gave to Ukraine. To protect them from the Russians. And it'd be money spent. Plus also, in the process of doing this, it's like a space program. You find out all kinds of other things that
actually help society and advance us in our technology. But basically relays, protective relays that could be put at our substations and transformers that an event like this happens, kind of similar to kind of a surge protector that you have in your computer. Since there's a surge like that, cut it off to protect it from our transformers.
Pardon my total ignorance on this topic, I'm embarrassed, but would such a solar storm hurt people or just electrical components? No, it doesn't hurt people. It's only like the transistors and anything electrical, and you can melt it. These transformers that we have, I think there's...
Remember the blackout that happened in New York not too long ago? It was trees that were hanging over a power line just like that, which caused a surge of power and upset the balance. And it all relies on these transformers that...
get overheated and they if you need to replace one you don't just replace one they weigh about 500,000 pounds to begin with to get them it takes if you want another one it takes two years to get one we just don't have them sitting around just ready to replace either they're it's really difficult it takes time
And if you had a situation where your supply chain is cut off, and we get some of them from China, by the way, and it's just tough to do.
If I can just ask you a dumb question, so this, an event like this happened in 1859 and it took out our entire telegraph system. So this has been known for quite some time. Yeah. And yet we built a system that's vulnerable to it. Yeah. How did that happen? Well, the storms, the storms come in varying intensities that carrying an event. I don't know.
Must have been upwards of like 85 volts per meter. I think that's what the figure is, the way they measure it. And our system is built to take on like eight volts per kilometer. I mean, eight kilometers. And it won't handle it. That's what Obama wanted. That's what Obama did when he...
by executive order wanted to harden our system. What had it brought up to that? And the regulatory people, NERC and FERC, took it and wound up just protecting our infrastructure to eight volts. And so it's like 10 times less. There was, because of these other storms that came through, you know, one I think was like 12, another one was this or that. And so they, it wasn't a worst case,
worst-case scenario in other words that they prepared for and that's what you need to prepare for course you're describing what we used to call when we believed in God acts of God yeah probably are actually bad but whatever but things that no human can control right but there's a whole measure right exactly so there's a whole nother category though of attacks from adversaries or yes that's the other thing what are those another
Another scary thing, I think the world as far as, the danger in the world today is much greater than when I was growing up. I grew up at the height of the Cold War where we had duck and cover. I lived in Houston, which was within that circle during the Cuban Missile Crisis of getting hit and probably would have been hit by the bomb. And it's scarier today than it was then. At least we had mutual support.
Mutual annihilation and we had deterrents, you know based on that that we wouldn't pull the trigger because the other your adversary was going to destroy you too and Today, you know that that club has grown to where it's not only Russia the United States It's North Korea. Yeah, that everybody knows Pakistan India Iran yeah, which
They believe they already have the nuke. They just don't have the delivery system for it that could reach the United States. You believe Iran has a nuclear weapon? I think they do. The Russians have been helping them out. And if they don't have one, they're going to have one within six months to a year. And it's really... We've been approaching it, well, they don't have the delivery system. They don't have the...
You know, the ICBMs that can deliver that all the way to the United States. They definitely could hit Israel, though, who they're committed to destroying. And, you know, but they also have their terror organizations. And it's gotten to the point now where it's getting so condensed.
the suitcase dirty bombs, whatever they are, you could definitely rig one of those up and hook it to a Scud missile, put it on a cargo ship just off the United States coast, send it up to a certain altitude, explode it, and how that would, what they call a super EMP, which is electromagnetic pulse, which is the same thing as a geothermal event with the sun. If you send...
a nuclear bomb on it. It exploded at 400 kilometers above the Earth in space, basically. You won't see it. You won't see the explosion because it's in a vacuum of space. You won't hear it. No people will be killed. But the gamma rays, which are thrown out from that, would encompass most of the United States and take out
this very same grid and within which could cause a power outage all across the United States up to months even a year and we'd have the same scenario that we described before. So if, I mean you hate even to game it out but like if that happened if huge parts of the United States had no power for a year I mean that would be an extinction event for a while. Yeah they've done a study 90% of the population would be dead.
within a year. You know, in 18-- during this Carrington event, I mean, one thing, we didn't rely on electricity. You know, and everybody, if you wanted milk and you had a horse, if you wanted to drive, you know, your car wouldn't work. You-- what do you do? Your telephone doesn't work. There's no way to inform the public about, you know-- Anything. Anything. So you're kind of messed up. So, I mean, that in some ways seems far more effective than nuclear weapons. Mm-hmm.
Not only that, you're not killing people. And so that makes the decision to use them a little, you know, it's not easy. You don't have to wrestle with your morals. Right. There's no smoking hole at Hiroshima. Yeah, exactly. And just like because there are so many actors doing this and they're terrorist subgroups as well, right?
Who do you retaliate against if it's done from a cargo ship and you don't even know where it came from? So who was the perpetrator? And who do you retaliate against? And yes, the military has hardened most of their infrastructure when it comes to this. But they get their electricity. 90% of their electricity comes, 99% of their electricity comes from civilian infrastructure.
So how long is that going to last? So do you think one of the magnified EMP attacks would take out a lot, I mean, like most civilian power plants? Yeah, just one, what they call a super EMP, and that has to do with the altitude difference
where is exploded you know from the center of that covers a certain area whereas if you were lower down you would only be able to cover that much area because it spreads out in a circle so and just fries everything so why i mean i know there are a lot of things to worry about yeah a lot of things are failing at once obviously but um this seems like you might want to move it toward the top of the list of things to worry yeah i would i would think so i really would think so but it's uh
And indeed, the Russians and the Chinese have done so much more to harden and to protect their infrastructure than we have. And so you get down to that whole thing about survivability, being able to survive an attack and to attack someone and then being able to survive when they retaliate. And they've got that going for them.
And it also makes somebody like Iran, who it's a fraction of what their military budget is, and they know they can't defeat the United States. But I mean, even a simple terror group, if you get their hands on a Scud missile and a nuclear device, you can really do some damage. And I don't know why that our government has not been informing us more about this.
Back during the Cold War, when I was a kid, I was, you know, in the fourth grade. We kids were informed about what could happen, what to do if something happened. At least that. And also, let's get something done. I mean, I don't think the average person has any idea that this threat exists. Yeah. No, they don't. The majority, the vast majority of the people don't. Where is the climate lobby on this?
I mean, they're very involved in trying to remake the grid and change our sources of energy, and they're energy experts. But is this something that they're taking up? No, not to my knowledge. No. But this really definitely, this has to, well, they would be affected too, you know, of course. But it's, you know, that's all about the fuel that comes to the power agency, whether it be coal or gas.
Wind or whatever it is, but if you knock out these relay stations that the power can't go anywhere just fries everything So this does suggest I mean our country our country's population is clustered in cities Yeah, those probably aren't gonna fare as well. No, it'd be easier to live in the country Of course and people who live in the country would probably have better ideas better knowledge of how to survive after an event like this but
It's a scary proposition. I mean, there needs to be education and there needs to be something done about it. And done about it pretty quick. I mean, these protective relays that could be installed in the Transformers, starting with that. I mean, we have the technology. We know how to do this. It's not something mysterious that we have to get involved in. What we do need is something like a Manhattan Project that we had back during World War II, where
You know, the Germans, we knew that the Germans were trying to develop a bomb, and so we got there quicker. And somebody to cut through all the bureaucratic red tape and be vested with the authority to just to get this done. We could do it in a couple of years. So you mentioned FERC, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission? Yeah. I mean, wouldn't that be the agency that would be thinking about this? They are...
Yes, you would think that but that's not the way it works. You know Obama likes sent this to Congress and we to get it done and then it gets caught in FERC and NERC because they're controlled by the lobbies in the lobbies of the energy lobbies that it's about they'd have to spend money and
Which they don't necessarily want to do because it costs a lot. Yes, it would cost a lot. I think the government should help in this. And there's so many of them too scattered across the United States. They're locally owned, most of the energy companies.
There's an energy company in South Carolina that is really doing something about it. And there have been some cases where we've had energy companies making moves to protect the grid, but that's only one little part of the grid. When it comes down to it, they depend on the one next door to them and the one next door to them.
It would cure the AI problem pretty quick though, right? You'd have no AI within a little bit. Yeah, exactly. But you wonder, there's all these, I mean, a huge part of the American economy is based on digital commerce, digital innovation. I mean, this is being... Right. Financial system is going to break down. Exactly. Transportation breaks down. Your water doesn't work. Food delivery is gone. Your telephones don't work. You go back to, basically, we go back...
through that Kerrington event, the world goes back to 1859 and we're all in the dark and the lights are out. So you would think that all these other sectors of the economy would be lobbying because they all are dependent on electricity. Everybody's dependent on electricity. So if I'm Google or if I'm Microsoft running AI or whatever, like I need, I would be lobbying for this. Especially you, you've got to have that. And
Plus also just the effects of the gamma rays upon these microchips that they're melted. Actually, you know who the largest manufacturer of vacuum tubes is? Russia. Vacuum tubes? Vacuum tubes. Russia and China. They are still in the business of manufacturing vacuum tubes. Vacuum tubes like the vacuum TV? They are far more resistant to...
These gamma rays. Are you serious? Yeah. And the microchips. Do they make... The old analog technology is, you know, would work with internet dial-up, you know. Are they making horse carriages, too? They probably should be. They probably should be, yeah.
So, okay, well, you just blew my mind. Yeah, I want to go out and join the cavalry, I guess. So what kind of reaction are you getting when you tell people this? A mouth agape, kind of like you. Yeah. Yeah, because nobody hears about it. And it's something we don't like to think about. But it's, yeah, I think people think of it in terms of,
asteroid which is on its way to destroy the earth right you know that seems like a very remote in fact is very remote and but this is you know whether from the Sun or a bad actor this is something that 100% chance it's going to happen and we are just no nowhere no way prepared for it
That's absolutely terrifying. So of all the projects you've done, 150-ish, I mean, this has got to rate among the most significant. Yeah, David Tice, he was a producer. He produced Soul Surfer, that movie I was in. And he's a patriot and a really smart individual. And he called me up because he created this movie, Grid Down, Power Up. That's the name of it.
and asked me if I wanted to be involved, and I'd seen that 60 Minutes episode, you know, about the geothermal event happening like that, and I just said yes, because I remember it really frightened me when I saw it. And I, like everybody else, had just gone on and forgotten it, because we have so many threats that are right in front of us that, you know, this gets pushed to the background. It seems like a pretty obvious one, though. Yeah, and it's always...
It's always the one you don't see, you know, that gets you. It gives us feet of clay, basically. You know, we may be the big, bad, great, greatest nation on Earth, the United States, but in some ways, all of this technology, this highly industrial complex that we've built has feet of clay because of
this little simple thing. It's kind of perfect though, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, it is Tower of Babel stuff, like people build this. Yeah, it's the Trojan horse.
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Looking back on all yours talking off air about all the movies that you've done What are the ones that you remember most vividly? Well, the right stuff is my favorite why period because it was uh when I grew up in Houston I wanted you know John Glenn went up I was in the second grade that rolled the TV and everybody that replaced wanting to be a cowboy everybody wanted to be an astronaut back then and
So, you know, I grew up wanting to be, and then along came the book, and I read it like in two days and wanted to play Gordo Cooper because he was my favorite astronaut back then. He was the youngest one. He was like the rock and roll astronaut. And then, couldn't believe it, I got the part. And then it turned out Gordo Cooper lived three miles from me in L.A. No way. So I called him up, and we became good friends, and...
He turned me on to a flight school, and I learned to fly. I got my pilot's license from that and still flying. I fly jets now, in fact. But it was like the ultimate boyhood fantasy, that role. And it took nine months to do it. And Chuck Yeager, legendary Chuck Yeager, was on the set every day.
So, it was a great time. It sounds unbelievable. Yeah. So, you said, you were saying off camera that when you started, I think your first movie that you were in or around was 1975. How long did it take to make a movie then? It was at least three months to make a movie back then because...
Because of the cameras the other would you shoot one side of a scene then you got it what they call turn around and shoot the other person going the other way and seeing the background the other way and The lights and the cameras that we had at the time meant that it was a it was at least you know a two to four hour Turnaround so you just sit in your trailer wait for that to happen now all that happens like in 15 minutes and so movies just moves
really quick. But if you're on, if you're taking, you know, months out of your life to go to a location far from your home and you're in this like biosphere with the other actors, I mean, that's like its own world. Yeah, that's exactly. And it, you know, it's real time consuming. That's the reason, I mean, now you see actors, you know, doing maybe like three, four movies a year because it doesn't take that long. It's not that they're so picky.
You must get to know the other people on set pretty well. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Yeah, it becomes your world. It's a gypsy life, basically, being an actor. And I still work a lot, but spend a lot more time at home now, which I like. But I mean, for decades, you must have spent no time at home. Yeah. But that's your life. Huh. You know? What's the most fun location? It's better than working for a living. Oh, I agree with that. Let me put it that way. Yeah. Yeah. What are the coolest locations to shoot a movie at? Oh, it's...
I did one in Svalbard. This was a television streaming series. Svalbard has the northernmost airport in the world. It's up there, Long Yard, and it is where Admiral Perry's last stop before the North Pole. It's above Greenland. It's 400 miles from the North Pole. Like the North Star, which if you're here in our area,
Where we are in our latitudes, you know, it's about like right there, about 45 degrees there. It was up here. And we were inside the Arctic Circle, which means the northern lights, you see a complete circle of it. It was like being on another planet. So the Earth is round, you're confirming. The Earth is completely round. Okay, but you know that. Yeah, yeah.
Yes, I can confirm that. They had a great little hotel there. It's kind of a tourist spot for people to come. There were 1,500 people there and 3,000 polar bears, they like to say. And that's an interesting community, actually, because it was started by an American, which is Goodyear.
Goodyear tires. Yeah, it was he that guy went over there because they had a lot of coal there on that island and He he started coal mine and people from all over the world came came there because it was guaranteed work and That so was extremely diverse Within that and it still continues to be that today. It's it's a
It's where a lot of people would come there to get like an EU passport. So you had like at the time that I was living there, there were like 800 people from Thailand there. And you can only stay there like two years and you're not allowed to die there. Really? You can't be buried there. They're pretty strict. There's no such thing as...
It's supposedly kind of owned by Norway, but it's also the same place where we had our listening post, observation post during the Cold War if the ICBMs were coming over from Russia because they'd come over. And then two miles from where we had ours, the Russians had theirs. And that little town is like a ghost town. That's another Wolf Tourist spot there. It's a fascinating place to go. And no dying. No dying allowed. It's a death-free zone. Right.
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you know you can't act alone in your room I guess you can act with acting is reacting for me but music is you know is the thing that your friend is a candidate that that was I was kind of like music acting music acting I didn't know it became acting
But music has always been laced in there, and I've always had a band. And I knew I was never going to shred a guitar, so I took up songwriting to go with that. How hard is that? Songwriting? It's not a question of being hard. I think if you ask any songwriter, it's like an affliction. It's something that you either have or you don't, and you get an idea that's a song or whatever, and it's going to bother you until you finish it.
Do you have some working their way out of you right now? Yeah, at this moment. Can you play one? It has nothing to do with the MPs.
I need a respite from that. That was dark, man. I would play a song. I'll tell you what. I'll play you a song that I think probably applies to you, Tucker, as well. I wrote this because of Chris Christopherson. He and Kenya Tucker and Randy Carlock did a song of mine. It's going to be out. Did you know Chris Christopherson? Oh, yeah. He's a great guy. Fantastic. But his wife said that nobody calls Chris because they think he's such a legend.
Yeah, I'm taking the call, you know, so but does he want people to call he wants people to call So now in my act when I get up to playing this song I call his wife Lisa and and we we all leave a message where the entire audience says hello This is good, but I found that myself dude It's about me as well But I because when you get to after a certain age after 60 people start giving you undue respect and
for things. I look forward to that. Yeah, by calling you legend, right? Legend. So I wrote this song for that. Please don't call me legend. Humble life's not through. It's got a beginning, a middle, but there still ain't no end to what I might yet do. I might just climb all the Himalayas.
Plant a flag on a planet or two. If you call me legend again, please wait until I'm in my tune. Please don't treat me special. It makes me feel alone.
How can I be the simple person I've always been? If you put me up on some throne, I'm quite capable of making my own mistakes. And I'm not afraid of failure. So if you see a legend again, I might just have to see you later. One more verse. Please don't call me legend. It makes me feel like I already died.
That's just a third-hand story about some has-been and it's probably a lie. So I'll just keep on keepin' on truckin' year after year. And if you call me legend again, I might just have to box your ears. You know I will. I might just have to see you later. Bye-bye.
I might just have to see you later. Excellent! That was awesome. You're welcome, Tucker. I love that. I love that kind of music. How would you describe that? That, I don't know, Americana, whatever. Yeah, exactly. Good old summertime, that one. That's amazing. When did you write that? About two years ago.
Yeah. In rage? I mean, there are threats of violence in the song, I'm just saying. That was after meeting Chris, that episode. Kind of sparked that idea. Who are your favorite musicians? Who do you listen to? He was definitely one of them. Currently, I'm going through the Frank Sinatra songbook. Really? Yeah. Because nobody could sing like Frank. Just as a musician, the voice is an instrument. It's phrasing and
incredible you know Jerry Lee Lewis it was like yeah he was one of my piano teachers when I did the great balls of fire you knew him yeah he was by the whole time we're doing the movie he's right over my back going you get it wrong son so he was really quite an amazing human being in all kinds of ways yeah what was John Prine like John Prine yeah he was just a sweetheart of a person
Really extremely talented. It is such a like a pure musician You know it wasn't about the fame and fortune for him as much as it was about the music and as a songwriter I mean nobody could turn a phrase like it kind of by himself in the category Yeah, but what but he never really became a household name. Yeah, but a lot of people know him and it's yeah, and his music will go on and
I mean, you take somebody like Chris Christopherson, you know, I think that's really kind of the measure. You know, I think a song like Bobby McGee, they'll be singing 500 years from now. 100%. You know? But no one will know. Everyone thinks Janis Joplin wrote it. Yeah. But it's okay. She didn't. Yeah. I particularly like songs that sound like they were written by Anonymous. You know, a lot of those American songs that are written on the frontier. Yeah, just as traditional on it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Did you ever know Willie Nelson? Yeah, yeah I've played with Willie Nelson in fact on stage a couple of times. What's he like? He's a very generous man and I mean, gosh, what his contribution to music and he's still doing it man. He's still doing it just as great as ever. Yeah, he's like 90 years old. Yeah. In the end, looking back on your life, are you more excited about making movies or playing music?
Living life. Yeah, that's that's what it is for me now, you know, you know, it's like I've been really I had my autobiography is gonna be called my lucky life because I have really Got a chance to do so many things that I I never would have thought I could have done and at this point, you know my movie career which has been so fantastic See it's so fulfilling really I I enjoy it so much more now making movies and
Because I'm not trying to get anywhere. I'm not trying to attain something. I'm just doing the things that really interest me. And, you know, that keeps the joy in life. Of course. Do you think that, you know, in 30 years Hollywood will still be a creative force? I don't know. I really don't know. It seems to be spreading out. You know, we're trying to get Hollywood started in Texas, actually. We're trying to bring filmmaking forward.
there as an industry, not just as a destination for Hollywood, you know. And I mean, the way it is now, not so many movies are made in California anymore anyway. And a lot of the ones that I see in the previews, they all look like the same movie. You know, a few really sneak by there every once in a while. Occasionally. Yeah.
So I just, I got to ask, got to end it with the question I ask everybody, but I'm just interested, like, where do you see the country in a year? In a year? Yeah. Well, I'm really, I'm really tense about next year. Yeah. Election year. It seems that, you know, more than any other time, it's, everybody's got to, like, pick a side. Yeah. And it's, it's...
both Democrats and the Republicans, I'm an independent by the way and always have been, I thought in both ways, according to what the pendulum, I thought the country needed, but both sides seem to think that our country is gonna be doomed, democracy is gonna be over if one or the other wins. And so how do we get to that place where we can have that transition of power
Like we did not so long ago where at least people could tolerate it without having to, you know, basically have a coup in one way or another. Yes. A military coup. We really are. I'm afraid of us becoming like a banana republic like that. And we're the United States of America. We're Americans. Yes. And I do believe, I mean, things are a little bit more complicated.
They're scarier than they were in '68. I mean, Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy was shot, Martin Luther King was shot, all the riots, you know, cities were burning. We knew who the leaders were back then, you know, but now it's just this kind of underground simmering rage on both sides. And I, you know, setting aside
who's right, who's wrong, or whatever. I just think we need to find ways to unite. And America's always found a way to unite. I mean, things, back when they were forming the Constitution, there was a guy, there was
who was it that came the other senator in fact in the chambers it was it got really bitter it was always about to fall apart yeah it's fragile and Reagan is right you know our democracy is only you know can be lost in a generation it only takes a generation to lose it and I think we need to educate our kids what a great country this is and that we're in spite of our way we don't
agree that we agree to that we're Americans and so God bless us and and You know that just like see cooler heads prevail. Do you feel that there are cooler heads out there? Yeah, I think as individuals where we can be we have in general we have cooler heads You know, it's I guess it's the mob that that whether it be on the right or the left or on
somewhere else, you know, that it gets confusing. It gets really confusing. I hope I see you in a year. I think I will, Tucker. I think so, too. Either here or in Maine. Great to see you. Thank you. On that note, thank you very much for having me.
