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What's up guys, it's Sam and Taylor. And we want you to put your shoes on, pop open that energy drink, and go. What is up besties? Welcome back to another episode. I am Sam. And I'm Taylor. Glad to have you back. Of course, of course. Yeah, so...
Obviously, let's just get right into it because I'm excited for this episode and we've been so damn social this week. We really have. So damn social. Yeah, we really have. It's the warm weather, I'm telling you. Yeah, because in Austin, so much is like outdoors that when it's like 30 degrees, it's like... Yeah. No, it for real is. Which, guys, if any of you plan on visiting Austin, which I know a lot of you guys are, I feel like it's a very big like travel, vacation-y type city, please DM me because I have like this entire list on my phone of like...
favorite restaurants like legit everything like activities to do dessert taco trucks like all of it and I'll just copy and paste it and send it to you um but yeah so yeah we've been doing a lot this week where do we where do we even begin we got so drunk on Saturday so bad Saturday night was like not okay I was on Facebook with David he was like you guys were like all messed up I was like
But here's the thing. We didn't do anything. Like we didn't, okay, we were out, but we weren't like doing stupid stuff. We weren't doing stuff. We were literally just like talking in like a small friend group the whole time. Like literally just chatting it up. Like we weren't like going wild. Okay. Here's another thing before we even get into this. Me and Taylor were saying this.
I think you guys think that we're going out with like a massive friend group of people and we're getting like super like drunk having a good time. No, guys. You can have a good time with just one best friend and go out and do the damn thing and have fun. Like that's how me and Taylor started the night but then we did obviously meet out some friends but we went out around 7.30, 8 o'clock. We were like,
Taylor and I were alone all the way up until like 9.30-ish. And I didn't even want to leave. And we were having so much fun from that time, from like 7.30 to 9.30. So much fun. Yeah, because we went to... Of course, we went to Takeramuchos. And then we went to Buford's. You guys already know. We always have to go there. You guys already know the drill. But we were at Buford's kind of alone. It was kind of empty because it was still early. And it was just fun because we were...
We were way too drunk at that point. Living our best life. Because here's the thing. When you're in a big crowded place with a lot of people, sometimes it's overwhelming and it's almost not even like, it is fun, but then it's like, oh my God, where'd she go? And like, you have to like walk through crowds of people and it's like kind of a lot to be like meeting up with a lot of people when it's just us.
Like we can do whatever we want. Like it's just us. Place is kind of empty. It's like not, there's no stress. Yeah. It's funny though too. Cause like I would have never thought that I would be like in the point of my life where I'm like, okay, I'm content. I can just go out with one person. Like back in like college and high school and stuff. Like anytime I went out, like if there wasn't like at least like 10 people going to wherever I was going, I was like, I'm not going. It's not gonna be fun. Like I was always so like, it has to be like a big event. Like I'm not like wasting my time, like all this stuff. No, no.
Like, I will, if I go out every single Saturday with just you, I, that is totally okay. Oh, thanks. We have so much fun. But then we, like, um, then it was three. We, like, formed a little group of three. Um, because we met up with Jenna, and that was so fun. And when all of us were just talking the whole time, and, but just all. In the corner of the bar. Yeah, literally, like, the amount of times I was, like, we could, like, literally, like, go back to our apartment. Like, we're standing here talking. Like, we could. We didn't even find Jenna, though, until, like.
late like actually i can go to my text messages with her right now and i can tell you actually no i think i deleted it yeah i always um but it was really fun we just were really not okay i've logged it um it'll be up yeah same when will it be up oh today okay it's up this friday
So it's up when you're listening to this. If you're listening like in the afternoon, 1.30 p.m. Friday, it'll be up. I vlogged it. It was pretty funny. I didn't really vlog. I just vlogged like the amount of drinks we have and I think I missed like half of them. Yeah. Really bad. The amount of people that were like, not like people, but like
Like we got a lot of shots and I don't I'm not one to like do shots and that's where I knew like It's over game over. I'm in i'm in deep. We're gonna continue to do these shots But we met um, we met one of you out and if it was you You were listening to this right now. She was so freaking cool. Yeah, she was cool I don't think I was like dm me on instagram and I don't think she did unless I missed it I hate that I do that. I say that to like pretty much everyone I meet i'm like, please dm me on instagram so I can get like
like an account to like the name and the face. So that way, like when you message me, I like remember. And she was so nice and so cool. I was like, DM me. Cause like, I'll go out with you next week. Like she was so nice and so cool. I was like, I would like to like,
Like, no, you can DM me on Instagram. Like, you're very, very nice. I don't think she did. Yeah, no, I don't think she did either. She offered to buy me a drink. I was like, no, what the hell? You know what I'm really sad about, though? That's like our last weekend. That was our last weekend at like Bungalow and that whole area. Like, it's going to get so quiet over there on Rainy Street. It's whatever. Someone said this to me. I can't remember what platform it was on. I think it was maybe YouTube.
Or no, wait, it was one of my Instagram posts. I can't remember, but they were like, it's so amazing and like so refreshing to see you going out and like still hitting your like deficit goals and like still like seeing results, doing the damn thing and like being in a deficit still and having fun. And I'm like, if you're going to be in a deficit and literally like giving yourself a hard time and like saying no to like social events, no to like going out to eat and like all that, like
you're like wasting your life away. I feel like in a way, because like, you're really going to say no to that type of stuff. Obviously you, you know, there's a difference between prep life and lifestyle life when you're trying to like lose weight. And if you're like constantly saying no to like those things, cause like, Oh my God, I have to stay on track. I need to lose weight. Then you're not living like step, like step out of that comfort zone and like go live a little bit. And yeah,
Um, you know, I have been really, really good at showing you guys what I've been doing for my deficit, um, on YouTube. So make sure you guys are up to date with both. Um, I'm doing a full day of eating every Friday. And then this past week I did do a grocery haul. So I'm going to do that. And then I'm posting, I believe on Sunday, a day in my life in a deficit. So it's me going over all of my like cardio protocols and all that, um,
Uh, so yeah, check that out. But basically Taylor and I have been just doing 10K steps a day and three days of cardio and it's working. Like we can still go out and have fun. Yeah. And I literally told Sam yesterday, like if you gave me like, okay, I can either have the exact Saturday we had every single Saturday or be like a little bit more shredded. Like I'm picking having a fun Saturday every Saturday. Like, like why, why like,
Yeah, maybe the cut will go like a little bit faster or I'll be like a little bit happier with like my strength that week or a little bit like who cares. Yeah, like of course we take Monday to Friday very seriously. Like we honestly don't even eat out. We just don't have the time to either because we're so busy with work. I also don't like...
dude like we'll go to sweet green like a salad's like 16 dollars no yeah like oh my god like you cannot catch me eating out like that like all the time because i'd rather spend on the weekends i'm weekend yeah the weekend weekends i eat out at least once like this past weekend we went to sweet greens and i was like we almost didn't go out usually we eat out on saturdays i feel like most of the time and i was like we haven't eaten out yet i was like let's go eat out like i need to eat out at least once this week and so we did that
And guys, I've mentioned it before, one day out of the week, I just don't even honestly track at all besides my protein.
and like if i'm eating out i'm not tracking what i ate out so yeah it's like we're literally like young and in our 20s like we'll not care and we just moved to a new city like what are we gonna do sit at home and not try all the new foods like come on we literally went over this last week yeah like try the new foods exactly go to new restaurants have fun not make friends yeah like you know what i'm saying like we made a friend on saturday yeah that's like more valuable than it's
being a little bit more into your deficit. Yeah, of course. And Oh, let's give a little bit of a plug to not like a plug, but we did just post on our podcast Instagram that we were in need of an interior designer. So if you guys know of anyone or yourself, your interior designer, please DM the podcast page. We desperately need your help ASAP. We got to get things rolling. Um, you can kind of take a guess at what we're kind of referring to, but
But yeah, we need one of those. So if you're in the area or even virtual, let us know. Yeah, I was going to say it could totally be virtual. We could totally FaceTime, show you the space and...
talk to you like you don't have to be here we literally already have a mood board planned we're like ready to go yeah we're so ready to go we just want to make sure it's what we want we want to make sure it's perfect so we're like we need a little bit more of a professional yeah and it's kind of hard to and stressful in a way because like you're we're trying to maintain like working while also like we're just balancing so much so the thought of me like doing that and getting stressed about that i'm like i can let somebody that's like
That's their job. And let them do it. Let them do it. So, yeah, just let us know. Hopefully someone gets back to us. Hopefully I don't check my DMs and there's nobody. No, someone actually just DMed us right now. She said me. Oh, good. Well, yeah, we definitely need that. Yeah, definitely. Other than that, I mean, we've been doing pretty good, you know, eating food in terms of my deficit. It's been getting a little bit harder because I was definitely used to my bulking macros where it's like –
I could hit my protein really, really easily because of the amount of food I was eating because my carbs were so high. But now that I dropped my carbs a little bit, it's a little bit harder for me to hit my protein. And I'm trying my best not to eat so much processed protein. I'm trying to eat more fruits and veggies, more whole foods. So when I'm like having, you know, fruit for a snack or something like that, obviously there's no damn protein in there, but I'm getting a little bit better at it.
But yeah, other than that, I'm doing A-okay. Yeah, I'm having the same issue because a lot of plant-based protein is a mix of carbs, fat, and protein. So when the carbs and fat are lower, that is like difficult for me to hit my protein as easy. But I'm also just so not used to hitting my carbs so early on in the day because the bulk was so like get every single carb in that you can at every meal. And then it's like time for an afternoon snack. I'm like, oh, I hit my carbs already. I'm like, oh shit. Like I need to get back to –
learning how to make them fit because I'm just so like used to just like food, food, food, food, food, food, food, that I know I'm eating less. I'm not even eating,
that much less but i'm very hungry which is weird because my food is not low at all like at all i definitely miss though eating like these types of foods like if i were to make like some of the foods i've been eating right now i would not be able to eat it in a bulk like i'm really excited like my chicken sandwich is a little bit too low calorie like where i couldn't enjoy that during my bulk
whereas now I can like enjoy stuff like that I can enjoy like I mean obviously you can make chicken salad sandwich a little bit bulkier but like the exact recipe that I like enjoy to eat it was a little bit harder so now I just feel like I'm eating like so much cleaner yeah and I mean it's give or take it's like would you rather be a little bit hungry or like literally vomiting at the thought of food I'd rather be the tiniest bit hungry but I don't even think I'm gonna drop my calories much lower than this I'm pretty sure I said that on here before I really don't think
Yeah, neither do I. I really don't think I will. And then obviously if you guys have been keeping up, we're going to intuitive eat in the summer. So yeah, we're excited for that. And then I know we've gotten a lot of requests too for an intuitive eating episode that will definitely come along with that cutting episode. We will definitely do that, you know, toward the end of our bulk or maybe even a little bit sooner on just because we've been now been cutting for a little bit. Did I say bulking? You said bulk.
first. Yeah. No, I meant to say cutting. Um, so yeah, be on the lookout for that. We just obviously want to give like our own emotional, like mental and physical responsibility.
responses to it before we ever talk about it if we've never been through it, you know? Yeah. So... Like, I don't even think I've, like, actually lost, like, real weight yet, so... Yeah, mine's just honestly, like, a lot of, like, retention of water. Yeah, so it'd be hard for me to talk for an hour about something I haven't done. Yeah, and I'm only going into week two of really, like, taking my cardio seriously. Right. Like, all the other times, I was just like, okay, I'm gonna hop on the treadmill for a few minutes, but now I'm, like, actually, like, paying attention to it. Paying attention, yeah. But that's pretty much, like...
our life right now oh macros a-okay yeah macro we didn't even talk about it last week because the episode was already up yeah so guys this past weekend macro actually me and macro were wrestling on the ground and he went up to my ear bit my ear and completely swallowed a pretty big sized um earring it was a hoop straight out of her ear i immediately brought him to like the vet and they did x-rays and
fortunate enough so they were gonna vomit him um like when we got there but they vomited him it did not come out so they did x-rays and they found it they said it was way too they showed me the pictures they were like it's way too big to go through his digestive system like it's not gonna go through it's gonna sit in his stomach and if it does go into his digestive system it's probably gonna rip it apart a little bit just because one it's so big and two the earring like
You guys know how my earrings are. Like, the backing, like, it's sharp. So they were like, we're going to have to do surgery on it. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, it made me so sad. I was literally in a panic at the vet. But they were like, well, we can wait until Monday. And I was like, oh, so it's, like, not that serious. And they were like, yeah, like, if you did surgery on the weekend, it would be double the price because obviously they're going to be taking more care of, you know, animals that get hit by a car or just, like, strife. Yeah, more urgent.
And I was like, okay, perfect. So that brought the stress down a little bit. Brought him in on my Monday and picked him up. The damn boy doesn't even pay attention to his little like stitches or anything. I'd take the cone off. He does not like, I know you guys are going to be like, oh my God, they shouldn't be doing that. Like what? Like it's my dog. I can do what I want with my dog. And when he's alone, he has the cone on. Yeah, when he's alone, he has the cone on. But when he's with me, he doesn't even like look at his bandages. No, not at all. Doesn't even look at it. So it's been nice. He's been chill. Yeah.
He's a little bit more tired, but honestly, I have meds and stuff that I have to give him. His little gastro food tastes so gross. Other than that, he's good, and I can't wait for him to be all healed up. It tastes so gross you ate it. Did I say taste? I meant to say ew. I meant to say smell. It's so gross. No, it definitely does probably taste gross. I'm excited for him to be all healed up so we can bring him to Lift ATX and to the park. Yeah, it's honestly crazy how he's so fine. He's built different.
We look so different. He's a-okay. But it is sad, though, because he can't go. Like, all the dogs that run around in the courtyard, they were all out there yesterday having a time of their life. Three of them, you know, running around, and Mackerel's just at the fence. Yeah, I know. Because he can't run around quite yet. Yeah. But we're like, sorry, buddy. You've got to stay inside. Soon, I promise. It'll fly by before we know it. Well, because it was like he just got his shots, so he was, like, just able to do it because he's been watching them for so many weeks. I know.
And then he got surgery and it's like, you were this close. You were this close. If you didn't swallow my urine, you could be out there with him right now. Literally. But he's doing great. Yeah. Proud of him. Good job. Good job, Mac. He's sleeping on the couch right now. He's kind of snoring. I don't know if you guys can hear it through the mics, but yeah. So let's get into the episode. I'm really excited for this. I was just saying to Taylor before this, I was like, I feel like this is going to be like a therapy session for us because-
Obviously, everyone has their own mental things going on, and we all deal with it differently, and we kind of want to help you guys because we've been dealing with it, honestly, in a good way. It's been good. Life has been really good. Yeah, and first things first, I know some people maybe have mentioned this in other episodes, so I'm just going to give a little quick address really fast.
When we talk about anything like this, mental health, our food struggles, we are talking about our experience and giving you advice that has worked for us and make you feel less alone by no means do we think we're giving you advice.
medical advice, professional advice. Obviously, there are people who went to school for this who are so incredibly knowledgeable in this stuff. This is our experience and things that have literally helped us in our life. Some things that I've gotten from my therapist when I went to therapy. There's no...
In my opinion, no certification or credentials needed to share an experience and to make someone feel hurt a little bit. Yeah, especially with the CBT as well. That's legit just a piece of paper. There are so many people out there that are so educated and know so much that maybe don't even have a piece of paper. So just something to keep in mind because we do get quite a few messages about that. Yeah.
Yeah. We're literally just sharing our experiences. Yeah, because obviously, like, I feel like there might be someone being like, you're not, like, a psychiatrist. Like, you're, like, you know, like, you didn't... And it's like, this is just our personal experience, which, I mean, we shouldn't even have to say. I know. Like, obvious. Like, to me, that's very obvious. Like, we're just sharing our personal experience. But obviously, there's just... But, yeah, we're going to go all into staying on track when simultaneously dealing with mental health. Yeah. Because...
that's something we've dealt with for a while. Um, and also in different like stages. And I know it's something a lot of you deal with and everyone deals with it so differently, but I think we're going to touch on a lot. It's going to be a little pretty valuable. Yeah, of course. There are obviously like so many different factors to like what can cause it, like whether it's big or small. Um,
you know obviously like everything that we do say right now can be taken no matter your circumstance so um I guess we can kind of like where do you want to start off take um so there like I kind of I was writing a little list and I kind of broke it up into like two sections that there's times you go off track because of mental health because of a specific circumstance that like
triggered you or is really hard to go through that you need to deal with and then they're staying on track with mental health day-to-day mental health that's literally just like you know the way your brain is wired it's just how you are it's something you can't fix like you have depression day-to-day you have adhd day-to-day you have anxiety day-to-day like things that you deal with no matter what and then there's like maybe you fall into a bit of anxiety or a bit of more or your depression gets worse because of a specific circumstance
that happened so if you want to talk about that first like maybe something something just went on in your life yeah could be anything like dealing with that because that's something we dealt with um
Not that long ago. Yeah, no, it's definitely like in a way, like kind of hard to talk about. Cause like, y'all there's like thousands of people listening right now and maybe even my parents, but like there will be things that like pop up in your life, whether it's like something happens to a family member or something happens to yourself. It's like big, it's traumatic and it happens. And like,
One of the biggest like pieces of advice I can honestly give to you is right around the time of that situation when it's happening, take a break, take a step back. You don't need to feel like you are going, go, go, go, go, continuing to do what you've been doing when there's something in the back end that's going on. Because if you continue to do that, you're going to feel like you're just going
Trying to forget about what's actually going on. And then it's just going to continue to pile up and get worse and worse. Right. Like when I have something that like triggers me feeling like that, like sometimes like if I'm like, I just want to like lay in bed and like cry all day. I'm like, so that's what I'm kind of going to like do today. Yeah. And then...
It'll kind of naturally like end on its own, but I like to lean into it and just feel how I need to feel rather than stressing why I feel that way. Because the last thing I want to do is being like, oh, like, why are you crying? Like, why can't you do this? Like beat myself up rather than being like, this is how I feel right now. So I'm going to take a bit of a, of a step back and like,
skip the gym today or, like, not worry about doing – I mean, you could not worry about doing literally anything. You know, I've had days where I do nothing. Like, I do literally nothing. Getting out of bed seems impossible. I think it's okay to take one of those personally. Yeah.
Yeah. Like when I, obviously I'm not going to feel comfortable. No offense guys. I'm sorry. Sharing absolutely everything that's going on in my, my, my life right now. But one example that I will share with you is when my dog passed away, um, around two years ago, I thought that like going to the gym every day, get into the gym, working out was going to help.
It was not helping. I would go into the gym and I was like legit bawling my eyes out like at my warm... Like I was like on this... I remember just being on the stairs like trying to work out, get my workout in. I'd be like on my phone and like I'd want either see a photo of him or like just something random or just like even have a thought and I'd just like start crying and like thinking I could get through my workout. So looking back on that, it's like why did I try to force myself to go to the gym thinking it was going to help? Like it's okay. You don't need to go to the gym for a week. Like there... Even like when my grandfather passed away too, like I...
tried going to the gym, couldn't do it, could not do it. And like, I beat myself up so badly about it that I couldn't go. And I was trying to get myself to go and it just turned into like a big spiral in my head that I needed to be there. So if one of the things you think, um, of like, you need to get into the gym, um,
Don't think you need to get into the gym. The gym is going to be there later on. Like the gym's never going to disappear from you. So that is really important to understand. Obviously there's going to be different circumstances, like maybe like getting to work. Obviously take work days off if you need to. But like if you're required to be into work, obviously there are going to be those situations where you may need to, but like talk to whoever you need to talk to and just let them know what's going on. And we're all human. They're all, people are going to understand. Yeah. That's a big one. Letting people know what's going on. Yeah. Because people can't read your mind in the last thing. Like,
Because I feel like some people might just be like, oh, you're being lazy or you're being this or you're being that and being honest with people about how you're feeling can help a ton. Like that's a really good point. Like whatever your obligations are, like be honest with people about why you're feeling what you're feeling. Even like,
like your like boyfriend girlfriend like being like hey i'm feeling like this or like your friends or like just making sure people are aware of how you're feeling but you don't want like the being on track to be extra stress especially if what's causing the issue is something that needs like your time and attention like if it's something you actively have to put effort in to like fix you don't need to also stress like the gym exactly it's not worth it especially if it's just
to be a short period of time. Like it's okay if other things take priority because realistically like taking like your mental health as priority is probably more important. Yeah, you're not going to function day to day if you're not taking your own like inside like brain and like heart seriously. Like the physical outside aspect is not going to function if the inside is not functioning. So you need to really take a
attention to like how you are feeling yeah and you can do like maybe you're like i don't want to go to the gym but like a walk sounds all right like do that like do whatever like feels decent to you but you don't have to stress doing so much especially if it's just like we said if it's something that like traumatic or really like bad that's happened and
there's no reason to try to act like it's not bothering you. And another really big one too, obviously I feel like this is just like common sense, is getting off social media and making sure you're trying to just eat your best. Those two go hand in hand. I had actually one girl, she commented on my YouTube video and she goes,
I just want to let you know like I've been struggling but I did delete Instagram TikTok all that but I kept YouTube and you're like the only person I still keep up with and you've helped me so much and it's like if you need that delete social media you don't need social media the big it's made such a big impact for me to like obviously social media is our work so it's kind of a little bit harder for us to just like disappear from it but taking a break not like going so much like say your screen time is like
Our screen time is kind of a lot. For instance, example, if your screen time is like five hours, try to back it down to three hours. Like figure out what you need to do to like get off your phone a little bit more. Yeah. It's make sure you're...
So be honest and real about things that are going to make you feel worse. Being on your phone a lot is going to make you feel worse. Not eating is going to make you feel worse. Distancing yourself completely from your friends and family is probably going to make you feel a little bit worse. Letting your room become a total disaster is probably going to make you feel a little bit worse. And, you know, right away you might not be like,
good enough to be like okay yeah like I'm like taking control of everything but once like a day or two like once you have time to kind of like feel how you feel like okay then it's like okay let's make like actionable steps you don't have to do them all at once yeah like just slowly start making sure you're doing things that are going to make you feel better like social media is a huge one like deleting tiktok oh my god deleting tiktok better like changed everything if I were to go on that app right now I'd probably have like
Like my heart would be racing. Yeah. And I hate feeling like that. Deleting TikTok changed literally everything. I mean, I can't even like explain. Yeah. But that too, social media, but then going into food too. So obviously, you know, we've been having, we've been dealing with our own things. I would say maybe like a month ago, whatever it was.
food was really, really hard for me. Like I didn't eat for a whole day. Eating was very, very hard for me. And it came to the point where it's like, okay, Sam, how am I going to get myself to actually eat food? I need to eat. It's important. I'm actually getting myself into the gym at this point, but I'm not eating properly where my, my workouts are performing at its best. And, and,
You need to remind yourself food is food. Who cares if you're having breakfast three times a day? If you're going to be able to melt down breakfast food, every single meal, melt it down. You don't have to be eating tacos, salads, whatever. If you want oatmeal three times in one day, do it. That's one food for me. I can eat that at any sitting.
And if I got to eat it, to eat it, to get some food in me, I will do it. So that's really a big thing. Food's food. It doesn't matter what it is. If you enjoy it, if you think you can eat it, eat it. Okay? Right. Yeah, that's a good point. I... When...
Like we were going through what we're going through I didn't eat all day and I got like a vegan chicken sandwich and it like is it like good for you? No, and like a thing like vegan mac and cheese like that sounded so good Yeah, like whatever you're craving or you think that you can eat just eat it Who cares if it's freaking mcdonald's just go get some food if you haven't been eating all day like macros calories nutrients kind of all that goes out the window because it's always going to be better for you than Not eating all day like
Like, for example, like McDonald's, very low nutritional value. You know what has a lower nutritional value? Gipping all your meals. Yeah. So you kind of have to just like pick one and...
fuck the nutritional value. Like if you're going to be like, this tastes really good. And like, I'm happy eating this right now because this is delicious. That's awesome. That gives you like an hour, 30 minutes or even 10 minutes of being like, okay, this is good right now. And it's making me like happy. Yeah. And then once you've started like working up that appetite back and like starting to eat, obviously, you know, your regular foods that you've been eating will come back and you won't be, you know,
you know feeling like oh my goodness what like when am I gonna feel like back to normal again I promise you like this can go for everything too it's like there is going to be a light at the end of the tunnel don't think you're in this dark place forever I promise you because I felt that exactly I felt like when everything was just crashing in on me that like it was over it was done I didn't even know how to feel like I like I could like get really sad about it but I don't want to but like
It just felt like there was, it's never going to end. Like I can't even explain to you, but I felt like I had a million tons just on my chest and it hurt. But knowing now where I am, I'm like, Sam, why were you thinking like that? Like it's not that deep. And, and the light at the end of the tunnel can be a week later, a month later, or like I've been from like 2019 till like now, like to like moving to Texas, like,
That was like my light at the end of the tunnel. So maybe you're like me and it's like two, three years. Like it's, it, it totally depends. But more of the story is it's not forever. Like no matter what it is, it's not forever. Um, when you're like that whole feeling, like there's no, there's no way out at all. It's really not forever.
I can't remember who you, let me know who you said this was, but Taylor said she quoted somebody and for us at least, and I know a lot, a few other people can definitely relate listening to this is, or even you guys comparing yourself to us is social media is not real. Like you, whatever you're, you're seeing on social media, it's not real life. Like you're seeing bits and pieces of life. It's not like, so for us, when we think of it that way, it's like,
They don't know who I am. Like you do, but you don't like social media. I, that can take a standstill. I can like back up and actually like be present in my life. And that's like what I've been doing. So if that's something that like you need to do, obviously everyone's like social media life is a little bit different. I literally present my entire life on there, but like if you need to back up from it, do so like it, it's, it's really not, it's what's the word I'm looking for?
When you're like addicted to it. Like when you're always on your phone going on it. Like, God, what's the word I'm looking for? I can't think of it. But like when you're just like constantly obsessed with like, you wake up in the morning, you're like, gotta check my Instagram stories. Gotta like, just doing that. Like it's, you don't have to constantly be doing those types of things. And when I took a break from that, I started to realize like social media is not real life.
and I was actually like being present on my weekends exactly and I think holy shit I think that also goes for like something we wrote down is making sure you're reaching out to like friends and family not isolating yourself because if you resort to just like going on your phone like do like like take a step back and go into what's really like real like go like I don't know who it is for your life but to me it was like my parents like I needed my parents right like I like
And then it put it into perspective that like, okay, like, oh my God, it's so hard to put into words sometimes. It is. It's so hard to put into words sometimes. I don't want it to come off wrong in any way either, but it really is. It's like, but it's like leaning to what's like real and what matters when like everything seems like it's like so shitty being like, but I have this person or that person or this thing. And it could be like anyone in your life.
And, like, just realizing that, like, you do have the few things that matter to you. And realistically, those are the things that, like, actually matter. Like, no matter, like, money situation, like, job situation, friend situation, like, the people close to you and, like, that actually matters. Like, no matter what, like, because everything else, like, is temporary and could be fixed. But, like, those people around you, like, that's actually what's, like, important. Mm-hmm.
But yeah, so that's basically just like our fucking tangent of like when, you know, you're dealing with something, you know, urgent in that moment. But then there's also the side that we deal with a lot, which is that just day to day mental health, you know, nothing happened, nothing. And it's just kind of how there's kind of how your brain is. And it sucks and it's brutal. Like it's it's terrible. Like being like I feel like that moment of like being like,
like, when I was talking to my therapist and going to a psychiatrist and being, like, diagnosed with something, I was like, wow, like, this, like, sucks, because it's, like, in a way, you kind of have to accept, obviously, there's ways that you're gonna fix it, but you do kind of have to, like, accept and be strong in that moment and be, like, I, you have to realize that you need to put in extra work to, like, get things done, which is fine, but you gotta, like,
really like be there for yourself yeah and like put in that extra work to get things done because it's not just gonna go away um of course like and i mean obviously like i don't know like i can't say like oh it goes away because for me it hasn't like gone away like maybe check back with me in like 10 years maybe i'll be like yeah it did go away like i don't know i can't tell you but for me like it has like it's day-to-day it's real shit so it's for me learning how to do things because some people like they'll comment on my videos like when i talk about like
My mental health, they're like, wow, like, kind of, like, almost like, how are you, like, depressed if this is how you, like, live? Oh, God, I hate those types of comments. Or, like, oh, I wish my, because I'll say, like, that when I'm depressed or something, it makes me, like,
want to eventually like clean my whole room and like get my, which it's not always right away, but like sometimes I just have a little click and I'm like, okay, like we're revamping everything. Like I'm going to clean my whole room and I do. And they're like, oh, I wish my depression made me do that. Or like blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, like just cause it looks different. I mean, it's like, and I do believe like, cause I do get that it's not
something you can just fix I'm not saying that you can just fix it immediately but like as someone that struggles with it I do think you can really put in the extra work sometimes not right away when I was in the deepest darkest part of it I was not living how I am right now by any means like literally by any means at all like you cannot compare but like I did have to like put in the work to change it and I think you can too yeah another thing too is like
Um, like I kind of have been dealing with it like in different like ways, like when my anxiety does kick in, it, it has literally jumped from like alcohol reasons, like caffeine intake, social gatherings, like whatever it is, like I've literally like experienced like quite a bit and just like, it goes from one thing to the next. But I think one thing for me at least with like figuring out like how to kind of deal with it is seeing where it kind of stems from in a way. Like I think
I'm kind of like learning where like all of this has been stemming from for myself and like,
Obviously, if it's the day-to-day things, there are things like what I was saying at the very beginning of this. If you had a very big traumatic thing happen in your life and you let it kind of just roll over and you don't pay attention to it, it ends up turning into those day-to-day experiences because you never dealt with it when it happened. And so now that I've been able to kind of understand where this is stemming from, I'm dealing with it a little bit better. I'm being more vocal. I'm talking to friends. I'm talking to family. And I'm dealing with it better now.
But one thing I can definitely say is like with those things day to day with like whatever it may be like at one point I was really badly struggling with like like hangover anxiety like the next morning when I would go out drink or even like it was kind of both of them it was like the social anxiety like I hated being out I hated being social and like big gatherings that gave me the biggest anxiety but then the next morning if I drank I had the worst hangover anxiety and like one of the things for me is
that I noticed was like paying attention, like Taylor, you taught me this and it works so well is like paying attention to something that's going on. Like if I'm like, one thing that would happen is like, I'd get out of bed and like my heart would start racing. And if I would just like pay attention to something, like I literally look at like that, like doorknob on like the drawer and just like pay attention to it and like realize that that's like a real thing. And that whatever's going on in my head right now is like
trying to manipulate me if that makes sense yeah it's called grounding so like it's like if you're um very anxious kind of like that panic attack state um you can I'll do different things so like I'll read something like letter by letter um in the grocery store I had major anxiety I literally felt like I was dying I was literally like tapping my fingers on the cart and like counting them um
Think of things you can see things you can smell something that helps Tremendously, which I realized in the grocery store that day like which I don't know why it took me so long to like get on this wave ice cold water or um another thing you do I think is hold an ice cube in your hand because it's so cold that like um, your brain can only think of so many things at once and like drinking like ice cold water like it literally like
Kind of brings you back to reality because your body's like, oh shit, like this is like freezing. Another thing people do is keep like warheads, like those sour candies because your brain instantly like just is so shocked by like the sour. It like shocks you back into like reality. That's what I do in those situations. Yeah. And it helps a lot. Like just thinking of everything that's like real and around you because something that actually brought me into like what I was going to say is like,
Um, your mental health, especially anxiety, especially anxiety, like it's not real. Like in the grocery store, like I said, terrible anxiety, horrible. I literally felt like I was dying in the grocery store. It took me a while to get to this place because when you first start experiencing it, it does feel extremely real and it's terrifying, but it's not like I wasn't dying. And like, I just have to like keep reminding myself like this is not real. Like I'm
Like, you know, people say like, oh, like it's all mental. Like it literally is all mental. Like, yes, it's real that you feel that way, but you're fine. Like you're not actually dying, but you're, if you're like, I can't breathe. You can breathe. Like sometimes if I'm like, it feels weird to breathe. Okay. Fuck what it feels like.
Like four breaths in four breaths out. Like it doesn't matter if it feels weird. If you're in your head, like you are breathing. Like it's not real. Like whatever you're thinking of not real at all. So yeah. And don't get that confused. Like I said, like the feeling I know is real. Like I know it feels like it, but you're fine. Like you're, you're healthy. You're living. You're fine. The cold water thing. Absolutely amazing. Yeah. And you have to, you have to like actually like, um,
Like try those. Like you can't be like, oh, that sounds stupid. Oh, that's not going to work. Like you literally need to be open minded and try. Yeah. Cause when you first told me that you were like, I remember walking out of my room. I don't know if you remember this, but like I walked out of my room and I like closed my eyes because like everything was so blurry. My heart was racing. And I was like, I was like, I'm like, I was not okay. And you were like, pay attention to something. I was like, I was like, pay attention to something. I was like, okay. And I like looked at something and I can't remember what I looked at, but I was like, holy shit, this just worked. And now every time,
I do that. And I don't know if it's literally it worked because like I told myself it would work, you know, in a sense where it's like, yeah, like this will work. Okay, now it will work. You know, you've got to just like tell yourself. Yeah. Those things. Um,
Like, when I was, like, trying to read things, like, count my fingers, like, it wasn't working. The water, like, did work. So keeping, like, a few in your, like, toolbox and, like, taking it in now. Like, if that's something that you suffer with, take it in now because obviously mid-panic when someone's telling you, like, just do this, you're like, shut the fuck up. Like, that's not going to work. Like, I'm dying. Like, so, like, take it in now and really try to remember and be open-minded to it because it really does work. Yeah.
I do want to also mention too, for like the outsiders on this,
I had to like really explain this to my mom because she was not helping when like that big incident happened is stop asking questions to that person. Like if they are in the moment, like struggling going through it, don't ask them questions. Literally just be like a big pillow for them. So it was like events talk to don't ask questions because the questions will make them spiral and think more about it. So just be there for them.
sidetrack them if you need to start a different conversation whatever it is but just don't ask questions my thing too is don't try to fix it as in like just do this yeah just do this just do this because um like for any mental health thing like depression anxiety whatever um because to me the way that makes me feel is like i'm dumb i'm dramatic and this could just be fixed in two seconds but like i can't just fix it like when someone's like oh just do this yeah like
Just delete TikTok. Who cares what they're saying about you? Like, no, I care. Like, I care and it's a big deal. And, like, don't just talk about it like it's, like, not a big deal because it's ruining my life. So, yeah, for those, like, people on the outside, like, just, like, validate. Like, you can validate someone's feelings while simultaneously trying to get them to, like, semi just, like, be better. But you can be like, yeah, I understand why it hurts so bad. But so back to, like, it being you and being on track. So...
Something I wrote down, which I think is very, very, very important. You need to define what on track means and it can't be anything literally insane. Like I wrote down a few examples, like one untracked meal a day, even a week, three times a week. Like everyone's lifestyle is different. That should still be on track. Being slightly off your macros. I'm talking within 10 grams or something that should still be on track.
If you're doing 10K steps a day and one day you hit seven, that's still on track. You didn't really have a good workout, but you still showed up. That's still on track. So as long as your definition of on track has a little bit of flexibility for you to not be this perfect, like amazing zero mistakes person, that'll make it feel a little bit easier because you don't want that added stress of like,
um, being slightly off because if it's something so slight, like the things I mentioned, like you are still on track. Um, so keep that in mind. Your version of on track can't be this zero mistakes, perfectionist version of yourself. Yeah, exactly. It needs to be realistic. It does. And that's why I like even, even before any of that, um,
Really kind of like think about like how you are day to day anyway. Like if you are like, because I used to be the same way as like I used to be like the perfectionist, like everything needed to happen. Everything needed to fall into place. I had to do this. I had to do that. Kind of take a step back from that, even without like the whole like mental health going on, because you're not always going to be in control of everything that's going on. So like a big scenario that does pop up in your life when you're not like a one already on top of everything. Yeah.
And you're kind of like going with the flow. It's not going to impact you as much as it does. I've definitely realized with like the whole food aspect, like when big things happen in my life and my mental health is like,
kind of taking a full on the eating aspect. Like it doesn't impact me as much mentally that I'm not eating how I should be. Like I'm not tracking my macros. I'm not getting in like my macro cap, like all that stuff. It doesn't impact me as much as it does. But if I was in a state where like I had to be that perfectionist and I was struggling and I wasn't able to get that macro cap, it would have deteriorated. Exactly. Maybe take a look. If you need to be like a little bit more lenient on your like lifestyle, like,
of mental health, do that because it will help you. Right. Like on the days that you are feeling good, be more lenient. Yes. Like don't wait until it's like last. Right. To be like, okay, so you're going through all this and at the same time you got to be okay with your food. No, you got to start that on your better days. And then you got to work hard and put in the work so that there are habits in your life that are literally autopilot that you don't have to think about. At first, they're not going to be and it like,
It might be difficult for you to get through and do them all the time. And again, you don't have to do them every single day at first. But eventually they will be like something that you do all the time. Like your skincare routine in the morning. Making a certain breakfast.
Maybe it's meal prep. Maybe it's going to bed with your room clean. I don't know if you've noticed, but my room has been so clean lately. I haven't gone in your... Actually, I did over the weekend when my toilet was working. I was going to say your toilet wasn't working. Yeah. I don't make my bed every day, but I always have my stuff on my bed. I did make it a few times last week, but I have nothing on the floor. My room is very clean. Yeah. Anyways.
Yeah, mine is definitely making my bed in the morning. If I don't make my bed in the morning, I just feel like if I'm going back into my room, because, like, we work from home. I know you're different. Sometimes you don't make your bed. But, like, for me personally, I feel like if I'm going back into my room and I see my room's a mess, like, that's going to, like – I'm going to be, like, sitting here, like, oh, my God, my room's a mess right now. Like, I kind of, like – See? Yeah, but, like, I can keep my bed unmade and be, like, my room's still, like –
clean no that's just like my my little thing i guess is like yeah but like um little things it could be it could be like journaling reading i don't know everyone has their things but like make a little routine a little morning night routine and do it every single day it could be long could be short i take 20 minutes to unwind and get ready for bed and do my skincare routine i've timed it um 20 minutes and i must have those 20 minutes love that i'm like it's a little hard with my dog but like
I still love my little night routine with him. Something else that you should work to get into your routine, non-negotiable, is getting outside. Okay? That's something we've been doing now that the weather's nice. Like, I know it was winter, and if you're like, it was like snowing, like, you know, you stay inside, and it sucks. Like, seasonal depression is a real ass thing. And if it gets hot and sunny outside, and you're still in that, you know, winter habit of being indoors...
No. Okay? Get outside. Go walk around your neighborhood, go to a park, sit on your balcony, I don't know, anything. Because seasonal depression is real, and if the sun is out and you're not taking advantage of the fact that you have this amazing, sunny, beautiful outdoors to go out and enjoy...
that is going to like affect you hard being outside makes me so happy like even like just we just sit on our like dude making our back little patio balcony thingy nice yes oh my god game changer i know we didn't we literally had a dirty disgusting like concrete slab like it was gross i mean obviously sam got a dog so we were like the dog's gonna come out here we need to kind of like
make it nicer but like we'll sit out there all the time and it makes all the difference getting some sunshine we're talking we're with Marshall the other day and Marshall was like I literally like photosynthesize yeah he was like I get like I'm a plant like I get my energy like from the sun and I was like retweet bro yeah like literally
I think it's important to even like where you're saying like with the winter depression, cold weather, you don't necessarily have to be outside. Like just get yourself out of like your routine. Like whether you're going, like say you're on a day-to-day basis going from like the office at work then to the gym and then just home and that's all you're doing. Change it up a little bit. Like go maybe like...
I don't know, go get your groceries maybe middle of the week if you need that. Because like the weekends, obviously you have more free time. But like if you just need to like change up your weekly routine to get out of your, you know, apartment, house, work, go to the grocery store in the middle of the week rather than on the weekend. Go, I don't know, get a coffee with a friend. Go get a drink with a friend after work. I don't know, change it up a little bit and force yourself to get out of that routine for like 30 minutes. Yeah, get a dog. Yeah, because Taylor and I... Get a dog, walk it. Yeah.
Taylor and I have been... We kind of promised each other. We were like, we got to make sure every third day we're outside. If we're not outside... Because we can very much hibernate in our apartment and work all day and go to the gym and that's it. But if you're...
Not getting yourself out. Like, I just feel like I'm just, like, in a little bit of a bubble. So, like, even... We went to the park last night for 30 minutes, and that was it. Like, doing that, it makes such a big difference in the rest of your day. Yeah. That's a good point, because if someone's like, I don't have time, we literally went to the park for 30 minutes. Literally... My watch said 35 minutes we were there. Like, we could have gone for 20. Yeah. Like, and if you, like, watch three episodes of a show at night, you can swap one episode for going for a little walk. Or, like I said...
sitting on your balcony just being like not yeah cooped up like i would say in the winter it's a little bit hard to do that stuff exactly but now that the weather is nice like if you're in the habit of being inside because it was winter so it's like you're not going to be going out and doing things because it's cold and it's gross and you don't want to do it like it still might be cold in some places but like as it gets warmer like take advantage of that and like really really like enjoy it because it makes you feel so
Like the sunshine, like vitamin D deficiency too is like a real thing. And I've just heard that that is like really, really bad for your mental health to be deficient in vitamin D. So that's like some scientific fact for you. Like I think that's like actually very much true. And I would say too, like our apartment doesn't have that much natural lighting. And like when it's like a gross day outside, I'm going to have to leave the makeup.
I like my like energy for the day. My like will to do things for the day is so low. Whereas if it's like sunny out, sun's kind of peeking through our windows. I have a little bit more energy to like actually do something for the day. Right. So get yourself outside, get that fresh air. Yeah. But, um, I want to say the last one, which you didn't even put on the list. I didn't. Um, it's the dog getting yourself a dog. Um, for me personally with like everything going on, whether it's big or small, um,
Having a dog, having macro has helped me so much. Not only he has reduced my screen time, but he has also kept me in routine. Like he is honestly like when I'm having my like really, really dark days, I know this sounds like really dark, really sad, but like he's the reason I'm getting out of bed certain days. And I just know I'm like laying in bed. Like I have to get up at,
730 because I have to let him out. He's going to need to pee. He's not going to pee in his car. Like that's just like how I'm thinking. And it forces me to get up in the morning and it forces me to do things, um,
and he's like he's a blessing in disguise like timing of when i got him and i'm so thankful for him so if obviously dogs are gonna be something where it's like a financial thing not everyone can afford to get a dog but like you can adopt a dog yeah free yeah but like even like with the food oh the food and everything shots like all that it's quite quite expensive but like if you can financially do it i would definitely recommend it if you're on the on the fence of getting a dog
Hop that fence. Go get that fucking dog. You could also foster a dog for a little bit. I think when you foster an animal, I could be wrong. I've never done it. I think the shelter helps you out in terms of like food and things the animal needs. I think. I could be totally wrong. Maybe you have to pay for it. It might depend on the shelter too. But I think they like kind of help you out with that. But that could at least give you a little like...
taste of having the dog like you can foster every so often so you have something that's a good option you guys should do that yeah i 100 recommend it like seriously you never know um your situation you never know like anything so just like having him has been really really helpful yeah it's also like it's just having like reason outside yourself to like do something which for us is hard because since we work from home like most people like
They have to go to work at 8. Yeah. You have to go. You have to be there. You literally have to get up out of bed and go to work. For us, we could lay in bed all day, realistically. I have nowhere to be. Yeah, like, I'm my own boss. I'm why I'm doing the work I need to do. Like, no one's telling me to do it. I have nowhere to be. Yeah. Literally nowhere. So, yeah, you having Mac is like you're going to get out of bed. And that's also why I moved in here with you is like,
We go to the gym at the same time together, like making that can like, it's like making a plan with a friend or something. Like we go to the gym at the same time we have our little routine. I can't just like miss it. Yeah. Which if one of us wasn't here, like for me at least, like there's been times when we were here. I'm like, okay, I'm going to slack a little bit. I'm going to like wait off a little bit. Exactly. For sure. Like I fall off a little bit, but yeah. So that's kind of like all the things that has kind of helped us that we hope can help you. Yeah.
You know, obviously it's not like one of those things, like everything. I feel like I'm on repeat when I say this is you're not, you're not going to wake up one day and it's just snap fingers. Like everything's back to normal. You need to work on yourself day to day, small things and be patient. There will be a light at the end of the tunnel. If you are currently like in a really, really dark place to like, don't forget, we are here to just talk if you need it. DMs are always open. Um,
Obviously, we try our best to get back to everyone. But, yeah. And I would say try professional help. It's not always going to be the perfect fit right away with, like, a therapist or something. Like, I know I don't think my therapist, when I went to, was, like, the perfect fit. And I don't go anymore. But I think in the time, me doing it when it was really dark was helpful. I mean, I say it all the time. I'm on medication for it. That helps me, like, go get professional help. There's, like, even...
a lot of it's virtual now with COVID and obviously tools like not sponsored, but like better help and like the stuff like that, that's like online. Um, a lot of it's virtual. So if being in person with someone is a little bit intimidating, I know to me, if I was in therapy, like face to face, that would, that would probably scared me a lot, but mine was virtual. So it wasn't as scary. Um, but like, don't, don't be scared of professional help. Like I feel like if people around you are like, you should go do this. You should go see someone like just do it.
like just like try it sucks i'm not gonna like sit here and say it was easy like it sucked so bad it took me a lot of fucking convincing okay like it was not quick it was not easy but i did do it and like professional help is something that you should like take advantage of yeah agreed damn we got deep today yeah well i mean i just hope it's something someone like if they're going through something and listening today and be like okay like i'm gonna do like
one of these things. No, of course. Even like with, I think every episode we've had, like there's always been like a few people that have been like, I really needed this episode. It was like a blessing in disguise in a way. So I really liked that. We're a family. Okay. Same. And it's also, we just get, like we said, we get to like rant about our own things and it's almost like a wake up call for us of like,
Dude, like if we're having a bad mental health day, it's like we need to listen to this shit. Yeah, for real though. You know what I mean? Because it's like, it's not like we're perfect. Like when I sit here and say like your anxiety is not real, that doesn't mean every single time I'm anxious, I don't think I'm dying. Yeah. Okay? Like I'm not perfect. I'm not just like, whatever. Like I'm fine. Like I'm not perfect by any means, but like I try. Yeah, exactly. Try to not let it consume me. Like maybe it consumed me for like five minutes, but I try not to let it consume me for the entirety of my day like it used to. Exactly. Yeah.
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