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生于泥潭,我用荆棘编花环|从潘玉良看女性创作与独立精神

2024/11/8
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@雨尘 :潘玉良的艺术创作体现了女性的独立精神和独特视角,她的作品真实地展现了女性的身体和情感,这在当时的社会环境下是具有突破性的。她不刻意美化女性形象,而是展现女性真实的样貌,这是一种自信和力量的体现。在流量时代,女性创作者需要在独立性和市场需求之间找到平衡,既要坚持自我,又要适应市场规则。 @周小畅 :不同媒体时代(纸媒、电台、播客)的创作载体变迁,反映了时代变迁的迅速。女性创作者在不同时代面临着不同的挑战和机遇。在流量时代,保持创作独立性非常困难,创作者需要在独立性和市场需求之间权衡。 @吴迪 :女性创作者面临的困境,例如在工作与生活之间的平衡,以及来自外貌的评价和性别审视,是男性创作者难以体会到的。即使是已经获得成功的女性,也仍然会面临来自性别方面的审视和评价。女性的柔韧性是其独特的品质,能够在困境中权衡和选择,最终实现目标。不同年代的人对精神和物质的追求不同,不能简单地以现在的标准评价过去的人。

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Why is the female perspective considered necessary in artistic creation?

The female perspective is essential in artistic creation because it offers a unique and often underrepresented view of the world. Female artists like Pan Yuliang challenge traditional norms by depicting subjects such as the female body in a way that avoids idealization, presenting it as it is—with imperfections like folds and cellulite. This authenticity, which only a female artist can provide, highlights the beauty in realism and breaks away from the male-dominated standards of perfection in art.

What challenges do female creators face in the modern era of content creation?

Female creators in the modern era face significant challenges, particularly in maintaining their independence while navigating the demands of the market. The pressure to conform to popular trends and the need to attract views can compromise their artistic integrity. Additionally, they often face gender-based scrutiny and are frequently questioned about balancing their professional and personal lives, a line of inquiry rarely directed at their male counterparts.

How did Pan Yuliang's approach to painting challenge traditional Chinese art norms?

Pan Yuliang challenged traditional Chinese art norms by embracing Western techniques and subjects, particularly the nude female form, which was largely taboo in Chinese art. Her work did not conform to the idealized depictions common in classical Western art; instead, she portrayed the female body with all its natural imperfections, such as sagging skin and cellulite. This approach not only broke cultural taboos but also asserted the validity and beauty of the female perspective in art.

What does the discussion about 'sitting at the table' signify for female creators?

The discussion about 'sitting at the table' signifies the struggle and achievement of female creators in gaining recognition and respect in their fields. It highlights the difficulties women face in being acknowledged and the additional hurdles they must overcome compared to men. Once they achieve a position of influence, they must continue to assert their presence and resist being marginalized, as exemplified by Pan Yuliang's perseverance and refusal to be sidelined despite societal pressures.

How does the podcast address the issue of independence in creative work?

The podcast addresses the issue of independence in creative work by discussing the balance between maintaining one's artistic integrity and adapting to market demands. It explores the challenges creators face when they are pressured to conform to popular trends or alter their content to increase viewership. The conversation emphasizes the importance of staying true to one's vision while also being pragmatic about the realities of the industry, as illustrated by the experiences of the speakers and the example of Pan Yuliang's career.

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三位嘉宾分别经历了纸媒、电台和播客时代,她们分享了不同媒体时代的创作体验和感受,也探讨了媒体变迁对女性创作者的影响。
  • 纸媒、电台、播客等不同媒体时代的创作载体变迁
  • 不同媒体时代广告收益的巨大差异
  • 新媒体时代创作者面临的挑战与机遇

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本期录制于世博会博物馆潘玉良个展展厅内,本期将听到:

女性视角在做创作时的必要性;我们会因为些什么敬佩一个女性;在流量时代做一个精神独立的创作者何其艰难,我们该如何看待精神独立和市场需求之间的关系;对于“上桌吃饭”的问题,怎么为自己挣得上桌的可能以及上桌之后也会面临到的困境;女性独有的柔韧性在抉择时如何应用;本场为线下开放麦录制,后段有现场互动,有嘉宾对于“60年代的人单纯当今年代的人物质”的犀利回应,真实且精彩

别看我写地如此冷静规整其实本场内容非常犀利麻辣,权衡左右还是选择保留嘉宾的个性维持重辣下锅,友友且听且珍惜

聊天的人:雨尘swanheart(小红书:万雨尘SWan,微博:@万雨尘)

【小畅翻牌|开小灶】主播:周小畅(微博@DJ周小畅)

吴迪(B站、微博@麻辣情医吴迪)

封面:潘玉良&雨尘

文案:雨尘

后期剪辑制作:秦沛工作室

小助手:Msswanheart (添加微信并备注听友群)

03:51 从纸媒到电台到播客时代创作载体的变迁

08:04 创作者的女性身份和女性视角有其必要性吗

14:19 不刻意美化就是其意义

17:52 即使是已经在桌上吃饭的女性也逃不过被性别审视

23:20 我们因为些什么在敬佩一个女性

27:01 对大妈一些行为和审美有必要这么苛刻吗

29:08 在流量为王的时代创作独立多么地不容易

34:26 太独立太自我的话可能连上桌的资格都还没有挣到

40:23 用好女性的柔韧性,能屈能伸是女性天然独有的品质

48:48 既然上桌了就不轻易下桌

53:19 60年代的人单纯90年代的人物质??

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