Travis Alexander: Murdered by Stalker Ex-Girlfriend, Jodi Arias
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Hey guys, welcome back to my channel. Today we are going to be covering a case that is very famous, very highly requested. It is one that I am personally fascinated in and have been since way before I started doing crime on this channel. And that is the case of Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander.

I have covered this case on my podcast, so some of my mile-higher homies may have already heard me talk about this. I still want to cover it on this channel because I still get requests for it all the time. Plus, there is so much public domain video footage in this case that the video format honestly works best for it. So let's go ahead and jump into it because it's going to be a long one.

Alright, so first let's talk a little bit about Jodi's background. So Jodi Ann Arias was born on July 9th, 1980 in Salinas, California to William and Sandra Arias. Jodi grew up in a pretty normal, I guess you could say, household. Her parents were Christian, however they weren't super forceful with that under their children. And Jodi grew up not super religious herself. And when she was growing up, one of her favorite hobbies was to play the flute and she was pretty good at it.

So on the outside, Jodi's childhood looked pretty normal and to most people that knew them, it seemed like a nice family with not many issues going on behind the scenes. However, Jodi over time, as you hear, tells a very different story about what growing up in her house was like. We're not able to confirm what really happened in Jodi's childhood because her parents completely disagree with her recollection of things and

There's been a lot of criticism of her that maybe she over-dramatized how things were back at home to help her own case, which I'll explain more later. But basically Jodi said she started experiencing abuse from her dad in their house as young as seven. She claimed that she was spanked very hard and hit with wooden spoons, or she was pushed into things, pushed into their family piano, for example.

One thing that they can all agree on now is that Jodi was doing really well in school and was a really great student up until about the eighth grade when she was caught growing some marijuana. And they ended up calling the sheriff's department on,

themselves essentially since it was in their home. This was the point when things started to change in their relationship and they definitely became a little more strict on her. Just how strict and if it ever became abusive is kind of debated by the family. But anyway, Jodi was definitely considered to be a very smart girl. She's very well read and she often talked to her mom about how she should read more and educate herself more about the world, kind of open her

horizons. She attended Eureka Union High School, but she ended up dropping out in the 11th grade though. However, she did end up earning her GED. She just said high school wasn't for her basically. Now growing up, Jodi seemed to

always have a boyfriend and there was no breaks in between the guys. And one thing that she looked to do with these guys is take photos of them because Jodi was really into photography and she actually got into photography pretty young, age 10. So she had lots of practice and she really wanted to turn it into a career one day. Now that she was out of high school and into the real world, Jodi started working and she did a lot of part-time jobs in the photography world, but she also worked as a server.

Specifically, she was working at the Ventana Inn and Spa in Carmel. And this was in the late fall of 2001. And while she was working there, she ended up meeting this guy named Darryl Brewer, and he became her newest boyfriend. They started officially dating in 2003, and their relationship moved very quickly, like all of Jodi's relationships. And not long into their relationship, they ended up buying a house together in Palm Desert, California. Now let's quickly switch gears and talk about Travis Alexander for a little bit. We'll come back to Jodi in a sec.

So this is Travis Victor Alexander. He was born on July 28th, 1977 in Riverside, California. Growing up, Travis had a terrible childhood. Really, really scarring. Travis learned how to take care of himself pretty young because his parents were drug addicts and they simply were not able to take care of him the way that they should have. Sometimes they would leave him and his siblings alone for days without food. Travis experienced true poverty in his childhood. At one point, they were even living in a

And his parents were also just terrible to him, his mother especially. She physically abused him almost every day. But thankfully, when he was about 10 years old, his grandparents decided to step in and save them from their parents. They took them into their home and gave them the most stable living environment that any of them had ever had. And they were so grateful for

However, it was a completely new situation for them because his grandparents were serious Mormons and they ended up taking them to their church and involving them in the whole Mormon world. And this was probably one of the best things for Travis, honestly, because he had never experienced a true community and sense of family like you would experience at a church. Travis became really into his Mormon faith and he met so many friends through the church and just was overall

very involved. When he was older, he went on a two year mission trip to Denver actually with his church. And he really enjoyed that experience and became even more invested in a church at that point. And then after this, he decided to relocate to California to work for this company called Prepaid Legal Services. And this is actually an MLM or a

multi-level marketing business. So Travis really had to put in the work to actually make any money in there, but he was really good at it. He was a great salesman and a great recruiter because that's what the MLM business is all about. Recruiting people to be underneath you to do their work. Then you make a percentage. And at this point in his life, he seemed to be really

writing. He was loving his job. He had tons of friends and he was also public speaking occasionally and just seemed to be, you know, one of those people who's really outgoing and happy in life. He was quite the character as many people described him as. He was funny. He was sociable. People just really liked Travis.

In 2004, Travis moved to Mesa, Arizona. And one of the reasons that he did this was because they had a much larger Mormon community than back in California. And while he was living there, Travis really developed a great group of friends who all had similar beliefs as him and wanted the same thing out of life. So Travis was really happy at this point. That is until he met Jodi Arias.

So in 2006, Jodi was still living with Daryl in California, except for their relationship had really started to go downhill. They were fighting a lot and the spark was just kind of gone. And they were also having all these financial issues, which was really putting a strain on the relationship. So Jodi decided to pick up some extra work, working for an MLM, and that's when she began working for prepaid legal services. Also around this time, Jodi was meeting a lot of new friends and a lot of people within the Mormon community.

By September of that year, the two of them were just on totally different pages and Jody was actually going to be going to a convention that month. One of those fancy MLM convention banquets in Vegas where the higher-ups get to bring a guest. And Travis Alexander was one of those higher-ups and he was able to bring Jody as his guest. He was actually set up with her as a blind date while he was in Vegas.

His friends had set it up because Travis was quite the ladies man and Jodi was very pretty and they thought the two of them would have a good time together and boy did they. They really really hit it off and the sexual attraction with them was strong right away. Which none of his friends really knew about this because on the outside Travis told everyone that he was a virgin actually and he was really trying to be the model Mormon.

But in reality, he and Jody, they hooked up and they had a really good time so much so that they decided to keep the relationship going long distance, even though he was in Arizona, she was living in California at the time. There were tons of text messages and calls shared between them after the Vegas trip. There was just this sexual tension. And I think the distance made it even stronger.

Now I think for Travis, the attraction to her physically was a lot stronger than how he was actually feeling as far as getting into a relationship with her longterm. And Jody was feeling the complete opposite way. She became obsessed with Travis from the moment she met him. She thought he was so attractive, so perfect. So pretty soon after they had met, she got really, really into the Mormon faith.

and ended up getting converted to Mormonism for Travis. She said that this was specifically for Travis to make the two of them closer. She was baptized at a Mormon church in Southern California, and this was on November 26, 2006. At this point, they weren't officially in a relationship because she was technically still with Daryl. So she broke things off with him around this time. This was a little bit confusing, but some sources said that Daryl and her broke up before she was baptized. Some said that it happened like right after.

Doesn't really matter. And over the holidays, Jodi and Travis were talking all the time, flirting a lot. They would even get together sometimes in various locations, kind of little couples getaways. That's how they would spend their time together. And then in February of 2007, they officially started dating.

Now of course, since they're both Mormons, they're not supposed to have sex before marriage. Just not supposed to do that. But they did not follow this rule at all and their relationship was heavily based on their sexual encounters. Jodi would take lots of pictures while they were together and post them all over social media. She was very proud to be with Travis. However, he was not as into the relationship as she was at all.

And he was texting other women on the side. Joey found out about this and became really, really pissed off. And she actually was the one to end their relationship in June of 2007, which I think she thought would kind of play out differently for her, that maybe her breaking it off with him would make him want her more.

But even though they broke up, things definitely didn't end. They continued to see each other, they continued to get together, they continued to have sex. And it really wasn't Travis continuing the relationship, it was Jodi who would want to have sex with Travis. She would literally show up at his house, break into his house, sneak into his bed,

naked and wait for him there. And so Travis kind of saw it as a friends with benefits situation. He wasn't ready to commit to her long term, but he didn't want to necessarily stop hooking up with Jodi. So in his mind, this was something that was just going to continue on while he was seeing other women. But Jodi could not handle this type of setup. She was way, way too jealous. She started to really regret breaking it off with him. She wanted to be back together with him and be the only girl in his life. So she soon started to stop

him, which Jodi herself to this day denies ever stalking Travis, but let me know what you think. I mean, obviously breaking into someone's house and crawling into the bed naked is a little stalkery, but she was also doing some other crazy bitch things such as slashing his tires and she would actually sneak into the house while

he had other women there and you might be wondering how was she breaking in the house well through the dog door and she was also snooping around all his stuff she was reading his journals and this was really bothering him and he told his friends about this he was really upset especially about the tires being slashed about his privacy being invaded

her breaking into his place. She had fully become the crazy, jealous ex-girlfriend. When he would date other women, she would find out who they were, probably by hiding in a bush and watching them on a date. And then she would go ahead and contact these women and send them threats.

to break it off with Travis and she would threaten him too. And this was driving him insane and he told several of his friends about this. But even with all this crazy shit that Jodi was doing, Travis could not keep himself away. He was so attracted to Jodi and he would always reel him back in with sex. And throughout that next year and into March 2008, the two of them continued their sexual relationship. Not as an official boyfriend/girlfriend, but they were still seeing each other, hooking up, and sometimes even traveling together.

In April of 2008, Jodi ended up relocating to Eureka, California and started living with her grandparents. And only about a month or so after she had been living there on May 28th, 2008, her grandparents called the police to report that a handgun and some electronics and cash had been stolen from their house. This is important. And then only a few days after that, on June 2nd, Jodi ended up renting a car in Redding, California and drove all the way to New York.

Mesa, Arizona where Travis lived. On her way there on June 3rd, she made a stop at Darrell Brewer's house, her ex-boyfriend who she was still friendly with, and she ended up borrowing two gas cans from him. And during this time, Travis was getting ready to go on a little work trip to Cancun with another friend that he worked with named Mimi Hall.

And they were supposed to leave on June 10th for that, but she didn't hear from him for up to five days before the trip. And she started to get nervous because normally, you know, you're coordinating trip details, chatting. She just wasn't even responding to anything. It was very weird. So on June 9th, which is the night before they were supposed to go on their trip, she went over to his house and was knocking on the door, but no one would answer. So she makes a call to another one of their friends that she's friends with. And then that friend calls her boyfriend and

they go over to the house and meet her there to see what's going on. When they get there, they aren't able to get any response from Travis inside the house, but they can see that his dog is inside the house and become very concerned. They call another friend who has the garage code. So they ended up using that and they entered the house through the laundry room. Now, as soon as they got into the laundry room, they smelled something awful.

And at first they thought maybe it was the dog, maybe it was trash rotting, something like that, but it was much worse. They go over to Travis's bedroom and when they try to open the door, they realize that it's locked. And they become really, really concerned. Now what's so crazy is he had another roommate there named Zach Billings. And he was there that day.

He just wasn't answering the door. He was like in his room. He was just chilling in there watching a movie, so he didn't hear the doorbell ring. And he also hadn't noticed the strange smell that they were all smelling. He calls their other roommate Enrique, and then they both realize that neither of them have talked to Travis in almost a week, even though they live together. In fact, Zach was under the impression that he had already left for Cancun.

So Zach looks around the house and finds a key to Travis's room. They unlock the door and they all go in to a horrific sight. - I was actually watching a movie with my girlfriend at the time, or my wife now. I remember getting a knock on my door and

Travis's friends came to the door and they said, "Have you seen Travis?" And I said, "Well, no, I haven't seen Travis. He's supposed to be in Cancun or out on vacation right now." And they said, "Yes, he is, but he's supposed to be here with me, with Mimi." And so I said, "Well, have you checked his bedroom?" And that was my first thought.

And as soon as the door was opened, my heart just sank and immediately on the right hand side, I did end up seeing a pool of blood and looked down the hallway and saw

Just blood strewn throughout the hallway. Now this crime scene is pretty graphic I must warn you but there was a lot of blood in this crime scene and even hearing about happened to him It's just scary honestly There was blood all over his room leading into the bathroom and leading into the shower where they found Travis on the ground So they immediately called 911 and here is that caller

Yes, he has. He has an ex-girlfriend that's been bothering him and following him and slashing tires and things like that.

So as you heard on the call, the friends are already starting to think that this could have been Jodi Arias. She immediately came up in their minds. Just before midnight, the Mesa police arrived at their house and they attempted to look at Travis, but they couldn't tell much because there was so much blood. It was really hard to figure out what had even happened, but it turns out that he was stabbed

29 times. And that wasn't it. He was also shot right above his right eyebrow and then his throat was cut from side to side to the point where he was almost decapitated. And at that point, Travis had already been there a while, so his body was already decomposing and starting to mummify. Of course, they removed Travis's body from the crime scene for analysis. They took hair samples, fingerprints, collected any other possible DNA that they could

There was a bullet casing on the ground that was found and taken in as evidence as well. And what was really strange is it looked as if the crime scene had already been partially cleaned or someone had attempted to clean it. Someone had taken all the bedding off of the bed and had it in the washing machine. And they had also used the shower head to try and clean off Travis's body. They also could not find any forced entry to the home.

So they figured right away that this had to be someone that Travis knew. Of course, investigators looked at his roommates first because it was kind of weird that they didn't smell anything or notice that this had happened in their house for a while, but they were eventually cleared. All the bedding had been moved to the washing machine, and when they looked for the bedding in the laundry machine, they actually found a camera in it.

and whoever had washed this camera clearly thought that that would destroy it and destroy any evidence that could have possibly been on it. And the camera wouldn't turn on, obviously, but the SD card was completely intact and they were able to get several photos off of it. And we will be returning to that as well. And before they even contacted her, she made it easy and contacted them to ask if she could help in any way. She was devastated to hear about the death of her good friend Travis Alexander and wanted to help in

any way that she could. So police asked her what she already knew and she said that she just knew that he had passed away and that there was a lot of blood. She explained that Travis and her had a really casual relationship on and off for about six months, but she said they were broken up and they decided to just stay friends. She also explains where she has been. She said she was on a road trip and that she had actually talked to Travis and he was upset that she wasn't going to be stopping in Arizona to visit him.

him. While she was on her trip, she actually had called Travis and left him this voicemail. Now, this actually was about six hours after he was murdered. Phone died so I wasn't getting back to anybody. Um, and what else? Oh, and I drove 100 miles in the wrong direction. Over 100 miles. Thank you very much. So yeah, remember New Mexico? It was a lot like that. Only you weren't here to prevent me from going into the three digits. So fun, fun. Tell y'all about that later.

So detectives went ahead and asked for fingerprints from Jody and a bunch of other friends and people in Travis's life as well and everyone complied. They also interviewed a lot of Travis's friends and people who were very close to him in his current life and most of them thought that it was Jody. But Jody was sticking to her story. She was on a road trip. She wasn't even in Arizona.

And Jodi ended up telling several versions of what happened. So here's version one. She said that she left Northern California on June 2nd and she drove to Southern California to meet with her friends. And then she arrived to Salt Lake City on June 5th.

And police believe that this was the day after Travis was murdered. They now know that he was murdered on June 4th, sometime around 5:30 PM. And when they interviewed her in person, one thing that they realized is that she had changed her hair color. It was brown. Before this, it had always been blonde. And not only that,

They also noticed some cuts on her fingers and she told them that it was from bartending that she was super clumsy. So this would be Jodi's route if her story were true. However, this is actually Jodi's route. Jodi actually traveled south through California to Mesa. She did something in Arizona, then she went up to Salt Lake City and went back home to Northern California.

And the reason that Jodi got those two gas cans from Daryl was because she wanted to go right through Arizona without making any gas station stops so that they couldn't pinpoint her location there on the day that Travis was murdered.

But police were able to quickly debunk this whole story because that SD card came back from the lab with all of the pictures that were on it. And Jodi was in several of the pictures that were taken on the day that Travis was murdered. And that is one of the things that makes this case so fascinating, I think, to the masses is that there are photos of this whole thing playing out.

Travis and Jodi were not new to taking sexual pictures, to doing little private photo shoots together. This was something that they did. So they're having one of their normal hookup sessions. And you can see in the photos that Jodi's taking several pictures, you know, of his back, of his face. All looks pretty normal. He looks pretty normal. But then there's this last picture. And this is the last picture that they believe was taken before Travis was murdered.

So they know that she was there. They just need to get her to admit that she is lying about this first story. So they bring her in and here's some of the interview footage. It's pretty interesting. I could show you proof you were there. I wasn't there. Be honest with me, Joey. I was not at Travis's house. I was not. You were at Travis's house. You guys had a sexual encounter. Which, there's pictures. Are you sure those pictures aren't from another time?

And at first you can hear that she is trying to deny that she was even there. But then he brings out the evidence. They have proof that she was there. They have a bloody palm print, her hair and her blood at the scene. And they have a photo of her, which I can't show, naked on Travis's bed that day.

And not only that, there's even a picture of what appears to be her foot or her leg next to his dead body. So this is pretty strong evidence. Jodi starts to freak out. So based upon these pictures, it seems like they were having one of their normal hookup sessions when things started to take a turn. It's believed that there was some type of physical struggle between them and that it continued on into his bedroom. Jodi followed him into the bedroom and that is where she would have cut his neck and killed

and killed him. And there's a lot of photos that have been debated back and forth a lot about whether or not they were taken on purpose. And Jodi says that some of the photos were taken on accident, that she like dropped the camera. And there's one photo that seems to be her dragging his body through the hallway. They believe that she then brought him

back into the bathroom, washed him off there, and left him there. And Jodi continued to deny that she was there. She tried to say that that was not her leg in the photo. She would not say whether or not it was her in the picture on the bed. And she also started arguing about how time stamps can be altered on cameras. But she had pretty much nothing to say about that palm print. I mean, that is pretty strong evidence.

So the detective tells her, you know, there's no doubt in my mind that this was you. This is strong evidence here. But she continued to hold her ground. But at this point they have plenty of evidence so they go ahead and place her under arrest. And her behavior in the interrogation room after this is really bizarre.

Kind of famous. I mean, people have talked about these clips over and over again, if it's normal behavior. I mean, it is odd. You can see her doing a handstand and singing "Oh Holy Night" to herself at one point. And at one point she says to herself, "Still hate me?" Still be the holiest of the bright they shine. This is the first day of your spring.

And when she's taken in for her mugshot, she takes this. She was all worried about how her hair looked. She fixed it and smiled for the picture, which doesn't surprise me at all because Jodi is a true narcissist through and through. So the next day for interrogations, they decide to bring a female in to see if they can get Jodi to crack a little bit more and open up.

However, she doesn't like this and she actually requests to have Detective Flores back. And at this point, it's clear that Jodi has spent the night thinking about how there is no way to say that she didn't go to Travis's house. So she starts to change her story a

She admits that she did go visit Travis and that she arrived at his house around 3 a.m. But then she drops a huge bombshell and tells them that not only was she there on the day that he was murdered, she was there when he was murdered and she was not the one who murdered him. Instead, she tells them that she witnessed someone else murder Travis, that the two of them were doing their thing, hooking up, taking those pictures when two people broke into the house and attacked them. Kids.

I saw two other individuals in the bathroom and they were both coming toward us. They were covered, their hands, their gloves, they had long sleeve shirt on. They were in all black. He was wearing jeans, but they all, they had ski masks on.

I saw Travis was on the floor in his bathroom on all fours. And as soon as this guy left, I just got up and I charged her. She had a knife in her hand and he had some blood all over the floor and there was some just coming down on his arms. And I said, come on. And he kept saying, I can't. And then he said, I can't feel my leg. And the guy came back in and got really angry at me. Eventually, he was holding the gun at my forehead.

And they just kept arguing back and forth whether or not, you know, to kill me. And he pulled the trigger and nothing happened with the gun. And so I just grabbed my purse, which was on the floor at that point,

So yeah, she actually tried to pull that off. Tried to say that two people broke into the house, murdered Travis, and that she just witnessed it and that she's keeping it quiet so that she wouldn't get in trouble or get murdered by these people since she had witnessed a murder.

So obviously this is bullshit and the story is not very believable, so Detective Flores wasn't having any of it. But Jodi decided to stick to this story. She said that she was completely innocent and that she would fight to prove that to the jury. But on July 8th, 2008, Jodi Arias was indicted for first degree murder.

So while she was waiting for her trial, Jodi ended up doing an interview with Inside Edition. And she says all kinds of crazy shit in this interview and tries to convince the public that she is innocent going into this trial. Travis's friends and family were sure that Jodi did this and they were just absolutely determined to make sure that she was found guilty. So of course it takes a while to get a trial like this together and this was a big one. So it didn't start until January 2nd of 2013.

And by this time, this was a big case. There had been so much media coverage and public interest, people were just completely

completely wrapped up in this. Something about the way that Jodi talks is just very captivating. And she's just such an evil person in this really beautiful shell that I think that's kind of intriguing to people. So the case already had so much publicity before the trial even begun that when it actually did start, people were lined outside.

the day of. The courtroom was completely filled, people had made signs, people even flew in from other states to see this trial. Juan Martinez was the Maricopa County prosecutor at the time, and he of course was arguing that Jody killed Alexander in cold blood or possibly even premeditated murder. And they went into this seeking the death penalty because that's what Travis's family wanted. And that definitely makes things a little harder.

So the first thing that they looked at in the trial was the state of Travis's body. They were having a hard time determining when he died or if he died before or after he was shot. It was hard to determine the order of his injuries. And this was because there's just so many, but also because the advanced state of decomposition at this point.

So they ended up saying that the cause of death was just due to massive amounts of blood loss. Travis also had several self-defense wounds on his hands, so it was clear that he put up a fight before he died. And the prosecution argued that the reason that Jodi did this was because of that Cancun trip with Mimi Hall.

They said that this just crossed the line for her, that she was insane with jealousy at this point, and that that was when she decided that she would murder Travis. And this was a hard trial, especially for their family, because they showed a lot of photos of Travis after he was murdered, and it was just a terrible scene for his grandparents and his siblings to sit through. They also brought up the gun that was stolen from Jodi's grandparents' house where she was living at this time.

The fact that they had made that police report was huge. And when the defense came forward with their argument, it was pretty shocking because Jodi's story had changed yet again. At this point, she starts admitting that she did, in fact, kill Travis, but that it was in self-defense. Also in the trial, they argued that Jodi herself had said that a jury would never convict her of this crime. A jury is going to convict me.

Why not? Because I'm innocent and you can mark my words on that one. And Jodi tried to walk this back and said that the reason she said this was because she was planning to take her own life at this time and she didn't even think she would make it to trial, which I highly doubt that's what she actually meant, but Jodi's constantly changing her stories. And here's how she said this whole thing went down.

She goes to visit Travis in Arizona. She goes to his house, they hook up like normal and they're taking these photos. This is on Travis's new camera. And at some point Jodi says she drops the camera and that Travis reacts to her in a fit of rage. - Travis flipped out again, stepped out of the shower and he picked me up as he was screaming that I was a stupid idiot. And he body slammed me again on the tile.

He told me that a five-year-old can hold a camera better than I can. When I hit the tile, I rolled over on the side and started running down the hallway. So I ran into the closet and I slammed the door. I grabbed the gun. I ran out of the closet. He was chasing me. I turned around and we were in the middle of the bathroom. I pointed it at him with both of my hands. I thought that would stop him. If someone were pointing a gun at me, I would stop. But he just kept running. He got...

That's right. She tried to say he was so mad about the camera that he was violently attacking her to the point where she had to stab him 29 times, slit his throat, and shoot him in the head. It was Travis's continual abuse.

And on June 4th of 2008, it had reached a point of no return. He lunged at Jodi in anger, knocking her to the ground in the bathroom where there was a struggle. And sadly, Travis left Jodi no other option but to defend herself. On that horrible day, Jodi believed that Travis was going to kill her.

And one thing the defense tried to argue is that Jodi was not new to abuse, that this was normal to her, that she was triggered in this moment because she had been dealing with abuse her whole life. Now, here's where the whole narrative about Jodi's childhood comes into play. They start trying to say that she was abused by her father, that she had a series of abusive boyfriends, that she was used to abusive men. As I became a teenager, my dad would get rougher and rougher.

He would just shove me into furniture, sometimes into the piano or things like that, into tables, chairs, desks, whatever was around. He would just push me really hard and I would go flying into that. My mom began to carry a wooden spoon in her purse. If we were misbehaving, she would use it on us. What do you mean by use it on you? She would hit us with it. She hit you hard?

It felt pretty hard, yes. And like I said, her parents deny all of this. They said it is made up by her. And the prosecution also pointed out that there are no entries in any of her diaries, which they have record of, that talks about her being abused in her past. And Jodi says the reason for this is because she believes in manifestation and doesn't want to write anything negative down.

down. So it's debated on to this day. Some people think that Jodi really was abused her whole life. You'll have to let me know what you think. Is this a defense strategy or is this the truth? The next thing that they did was try to completely ruin Travis's reputation, which is terribly sad because he was never able to speak up and defend himself on any of this. Jodi talked about how she was Travis's dirty little

secret that he was going around acting like this virgin Mormon role model when in reality they were having this extremely sexually charged intense relationship behind the scenes that no one knew about which that part is definitely true. They also tried to spin the narrative that he was a violent person that he only cared about sex with Jodi. In fact, she even talked about when she was baptized they came home from her being baptized and he spun her around threw her on the bed and

and raped her. She also made accusations of him being a pedophile, which I can't really get into on here. If you want to know more about that, you can look it up. - I had something on the bed and I realized they were papers and um,

As he was grabbing the papers, one kind of went sailing off the bed. It was a picture of a little boy. However, I will say that it is not true and Travis is not here to speak for himself. So it really doesn't matter in this case anyway. The defense also brought up one of Travis's exes to the stand. Her name was Lisa Andrews. And she talked about how bad Travis was to her. Did you talk to him about that sometimes you felt that he wanted you just for your body?

I did say that in the email. And that your kisses didn't mean anything to him? I did say that in the email. That you felt that it was a way for him to let out some sexual tension? I did say that in the email. That he had so much of? Again, I said that. Did that make you feel used and dirty? I did say that in the email. And that if you truly, if he truly cared for you, did you tell him that it wouldn't have been about passion and lust? Do you remember telling him that you had...

previously told him to not grab your butt. Yes. And especially not in public. Yes. But that he persisted in doing it? Yes. Did it make you feel like he wasn't really listening to you?

At the time, yes. But when she was cross-examined by the prosecution, she ended up saying that she felt like she had overreacted a little bit to the way that Travis was speaking in some of his emails and that it was really just because she was inexperienced sexually and he was very experienced. So she kind of walked that back. They also called Jodi's ex-boyfriend, Daryl Brewer, to the stand and he defended her saying that they had a great relationship and that she had a great relationship with his son as well. But bringing him to the stand actually really backfired

because the prosecution was able to ask him about those two gas cans that she took from him, which essentially proved premeditation for the murder. So during this trial, Jodi ended up taking the stand herself, which is rare. It's not always done this way, but she ended up being on the stand for 18 days. There is hours of this footage available to watch. - I have no memory of stabbing him. I was in the bathroom.

Yes.

Yeah, things get very foggy from there. And one thing that was really unique about this case is they allowed the jury to ask Jodi questions. This almost never happened, so this was very intriguing to hear. But the jury did not hold back on their questions. Why did you decide to tell the truth two years after the killing? Why did you wait for so long to tell the truth? Would you decide to tell the truth if you never got arrested?

I honestly don't know the answer to that question. How is it that you were so calm on the television interviews? They ended up submitting over 200 questions for Jodi. So plenty of opportunities for her to talk herself into a bad situation. And at one point in her cross-examination, Juan Martinez actually pulled out this magazine that Jodi had smuggled to a friend outside of jail and had a secret message written in it.

And this is what it said. Jodi also tried to show her wounds that she got from Travis and why she needed to attack him so violently in self-defense. And that was her finger.

Her finger was a little crooked and jammed, and she said that was from Travis repeatedly punching and kicking her. So the two sides went back and forth for a while, but finally it was time for the jury to deliberate in May of 2013, and they took four days, and that was because they were really hung up about premeditation. They could not decide if Jodi had planned this out in advance or if she just spurred the moment murder.

But on May 8th, 2013, they finally announced a verdict. We, the jury, duly impaneled and sworn, and the above entitled action, upon our oaths, do find the defendant, as to count one, first degree murder guilty. Five jurors find premeditated, zero find felony murder,

Seven fine, both premeditated and felony. And people were so happy to hear the news and hear that there was going to be justice for Travis Alexander, especially Travis's family, of course. I mean, they were just over the moon when they got this verdict back. But of course, this was a death penalty case. So they still had to decide what Jodi's final fate would be. And Jodi ended up going on the local television station in Phoenix and said that she wanted to get the death penalty.

Well, the worst outcome for me would be natural life. I would much rather die sooner than later. Longevity runs in my family and I don't want to spend the rest of my natural life in one place. You know, I'm pretty healthy. I don't smoke and I would probably live a long time. So that's not something I'm looking forward to. I said years ago that I'd rather get death than life and that still is true today. I believe death is the ultimate freedom. So I'd rather just have my freedom as soon as I can get it.

So you're saying you actually prefer getting the death penalty to being in prison for life? Yes. After this clip came out, people went wild.

There were so many opinions. People were so mad at her for even just talking like this and almost setting herself up for if she does get the death penalty, then she will have one. Or maybe she's trying to play some reverse psychology here. So they try to do what she doesn't want. Who knows? However, after spending some time thinking about this, Jodi comes forward and says that she actually does not want the death penalty because she does not want to put her family through any more pain. That is all really for them.

Every time I've had the thought or desire to commit suicide, there's one element that has always, almost always caused me to waver. They're sitting right over there. They're my family. And I didn't think it was fair to expect my family to have to support me for the rest of my life.

I didn't know then that if I got life instead of death, I could become employed and self-reliant. I didn't know that if I got life, there are many things I can do to effect positive change. In prison, there are programs I can start and people I can help. My hair was past my waist.

and I donated it to Lots of Love, the nonprofit which creates wigs for cancer patients who've lost their hair. If I'm allowed to live in prison, I will continue to donate to that organization for the rest of my life. I can help other women become literate so that they too can add that dimension to their lives. My mom came to visit me after court that dark day. She had spoken to my dad on the way over, and she told me that in the 34 years that they've been together, she's never heard him cry the way he did that day.

And during this time, she starts wearing this t-shirt with the word survivor on.

really trying to play the victim card, even though she is clearly not the victim here. And it turns out she's actually trying to sell these shirts from jail to raise money for domestic abuse victims. Why didn't you apologize to them?

I did apologize to them. You never said, I'm sorry. I said that I'm sorry, that I'll never be able to make up for what I did, and that I can never replace their loss. But you didn't use the word, I'm sorry. Well, then I'm sorry I didn't say that, because certainly I am sorry. I think, in a sense, the words, I'm sorry, just seem...

meaningless, especially since nobody believes what I'm saying anyway. You said it right there. No one believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? Well, because I know that I'm not just I've lied before. That doesn't mean that I'm a liar by definition, by character. What do you think of this jury? It's pretty clear they don't think too much of you. I wonder what you think of them. I feel a little betrayed by them. I don't dislike them. I just...

I was really hoping that they would see things for what they are. To a lot of people, they think this switch from "I want to die" to "Now I want to live" is just another lie from Jodi Arias. I don't know what that means. Was I lying when I said I want to die or was I lying when I say, "Please spare my life"? You know, whatever happens, I'm just going to take it and deal with it. You said today you want to give Travis' family closure. You know they want you dead, so why don't you give them that closure?

What do you mean by that? Why don't I kill myself? Is that what you're asking? No, why don't you accept the fate of the death penalty if you know that's what they want? If you truly care about their closure? Well, I've caused them a lot of pain. I've caused my family a lot of pain. And I think that by asking for death, I'm only going to cause more pain. So you really are never going to tell the truth about what went down in that bathroom? I don't know what you mean by that because I've told the truth.

Okay. I didn't know that you were a hater when you came to interview me. And that was about as angry as Arius got. So at first, when the jury came back, they were unable to come to a conclusion. So the judge basically told them that's not going to work. Go back in there and try again. So they continue to deliberate and then they come forward and they are still undecided. Eight of them want her to get the death penalty and four of them just want her to get life in prison. So because of this, a mistrial was declared.

So then fast forward to February of 2014, they have to do the whole thing over again. It comes to an end for a second time on February 25th, 2014. And six days later, there was still a hung jury. This time 11 for death, one for life in prison.

So at this point, another mistrial is declared, which seems like a huge headache. But luckily at this point, Arizona state law says that the judge will just do the sentencing at this point. So they don't have to do another trial. But Jodi's defense team was really pissed about this and felt like she got an unfair trial, which she still argues to this day. And they ended up filing a motion to dismiss all

charges against Jody. They also tried to argue that thousands of images were deleted off of Travis's computer that proved that he was up to no good and that the Mesa police were the ones to delete everything. So they basically were arguing misconduct in the court. So as kind of an alternative for completely redoing the trial, they decide to take death penalty off the table for Jody.

And before she was finally sentenced, she got to make kind of a final statement and a plea to the court where she apologized to Travis's family. But I had to fight for my life just like I did on June 4th, 2008, because I realized how selfish it would be for me to escape accountability for this mess that I've created. The most important thing I want to say

is that I am very sorry for the enormous pain that I've caused the people that love Travis. I'm horrified because of what I did and I wish there was some way I could take it back. So Jodi was finally sentenced on April 13th, 2015. The court finds the mitigation presented is not sufficiently substantial to call for leniency and that a natural life sentence is appropriate.

It is ordered the defendant shall be incarcerated in the Department of Corrections for the rest of her natural life with no possibility of parole. Jodi will spend the rest of her life in prison and right now she's in the Perryville Prison for Women in Arizona. She has to live the rest of her life in an 86 square foot cell and think about the life that she stole from Travis. The first two years she was in max custody so she wasn't able to really see any other inmates or have any social interaction but now she has

cellmate and she's also able to go out in the common area and eat meals with people and stuff. But the victim mentality does not stop for Jodi Arias, not one bit. She said that she is still victimized in jail. She says that people harass her all the time for her conviction, but she's been clearly enjoying her stay in jail. At one point she even did a singing competition where she sang "Oh Holy Night" to the whole group.

And then a few years later, in 2017, Jodi actually turned on her own defense team. She filed a civil suit against them, saying that they disclosed private information for financial gain in a tell-all book that was published on the case. She also said that Juan Martinez was really inappropriate to her several times. This has been argued in court every time that she has appealed. And just this year, in 2020, he was actually terminated from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

And this was because of inappropriate behavior towards female clerks. So it's possible that some of the stuff that Jodi accuses him of is true, but it really doesn't change or affect the outcome of the trial. And they tried to argue this when they did her appeal. She recently had an appeal. I think it was

about eight months ago. And I actually listened to quite a bit of it because I was really curious what a defense lawyer would say to try to defend Jodi. They brought up all this stuff that she felt was unfair in the trial, everything with Juan Martinez and tried to argue that it could have affected the overall outcome. But the judge just said that it really wouldn't have affected the overall outcome at all. It really has nothing to do with the death of Travis Alexander and the murder committed by Jodi.

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