Revisiting the Making of Jiz & the Filming of Jiz with Jeff Maccubbin
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Hi, Bald. It's me, Katya. While we're working on some big upcoming projects, we're going to revisit some of our favorite episodes. This week, we're going back to our interview with Jeff McCubbin. Enjoy. Hi, welcome to our brand new YouTube channel. YouTube channel. YouTube channel. Channel on YouTube. It's us. And we're having a great guest today here on the pod. Somebody we have known for years who is honestly, truly, honestly, the blueprint.

The key master. The blueprint. Somebody who has... I don't know. What do you do? Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. He is the wizard behind the curtain. The skin curtain that is clipped to the back of our bodies. He's literally behind the music. The man behind the mask. The man in the mirror. The woman in the window.

He's the person who makes us look and sound like interesting people. It's Jeff McCubbin. It's Jeff McCubbin, folks. I have a question right off the bat. How often do you have to edit out? Can you tell when we're saying something that you know we can't put in the edit? Oh, yeah. Can you anticipate it? Oh, yeah. How often would you say per episode we say something that is so rotted?

Well, a lot of times, a lot of it is in the beginning. Like the stuff like before the intro, like the green screen stuff, when you guys are just chatting, there's a lot where then you're like, don't put this in.

Because you guys are just gossiping. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so that's obvious. I mean, unless it's like... Usually if it's something about Ginger, I'm like, oh, she won't care. Right. I think other drag queen stuff is fine, but we will... All press is good press. Not always! No, no, no, no, no. I mean, for drag queens. But sometimes things have been uttered of a nature so rife for canceling. Yeah. It's... Yeah.

But you got our back. Yeah. But even like today, we edited something and you'll probably be contacted later of like, can we use this? Because you're talking about a celebrity and we just want to double check with you. You're asking me? I don't want to bring it up right now. Who is it? Mouth the word. Who is it? Oh. Oh. Cut the cameras dead ass. But also, sometimes you guys will tell jokes that are just...

YouTube just can't handle. AIDS. Usually something about AIDS. It's cheap. Can I tell some of the, can I bring them up? Yes. And we'll bleep the whole thing. There's a lot where we say it and then we look right at the camera and go, don't use that. Yeah. Like don't say it. Yeah. Yeah. No, there was a whole one where you were just talking about, um, how has AIDS. Well, that's not a joke. That's just a fact. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

Mr. Clean. And so it's, I'm like laughing hysterically and I'm like, none of this can be used. I sent you some, I've sent you some audio clips. You have. And I've also contacted you directly upon remembering, Oh, don't say that. Like, you know what I mean? That's like, we got to cut that out. And sometimes we'll say things on, on, and then it will be like a waking moment or I'll be like, Oh,

I should not have said that. Yeah. Cause regret is a, is a powerful person. It's weird where over, over time it changes. Cause I remember you got a lot of flack for you. We're talking about pregnancy. By the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, on that note, a million,

A million YouTube comments were like, okay, Trixie usually is a little bit about women's bodies, but you sure were on the money when- You redeemed yourself. About having babies. About squatting position. Thank you. And they were like, they came for the editors and applauded you in a rare moment. In a rare moment. Because we were the assholes. Yeah, yes.

Imagine creating a program where two people who've never claimed to know anything about anything are held to the fire whenever they don't have a view that is agreed by a teenager watching YouTube. Or whenever they comically present a point of view that should not be taken seriously. Yeah.

Don't even get me started. So this is the best gig you've ever had. How does it feel? Definitely. I mean, seriously, it is. Well, I mean, I know of you from jizz. Yeah. And I also know of you from, well, I mean, I don't know if you, I didn't know you did it then, but I know you did. It was, you worked for Randy blue. Yeah. Directed pornos. Yeah. Male sex, gay sex pornos. So before jizz, you were also doing jizz. I was doing, well, I was doing, I love how it says, um,

I was doing jizz. I was doing jizz. And filming jizz. I was...

Yeah, I was making the, I moved to LA, was making the YouTube video channel. And then I got a job as an editor at a porn studio, Randy Blue. At the time it was the number three. It was, it was Sean Cody. Now what year? Because I subscribed to it. I paid cash money for it. 2010. Yeah. Oh honey, if you go. Randy Blue and Sean Cody. Any non-storyline Randy Blue porno, it starts off with an interview.

So I still have friends calling me being like, oh my God, I was on Pornhub about to jerk off to this. And then I hear your fucking faggy voice. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm interviewing all of them. It's my voice. So you work out? You never done this before, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That I didn't know. Yeah. I have so many questions. Wait a minute. First of all, did you, how often are the, I've never been gay before gay people actually never been gay? It's, it's a spectrum.

I think if you're willing to do porn, if you're willing to do it, you're not, a lot of them were like a hundred percent straight, but if you're willing to do it, you're already a tick down from like, yeah. Cause the money ain't that fierce mama. No, the money's not that fierce. It was, but everyone is different because there's, there's a performer called Chris Rockway. Yes. He was like one of my favorites. So when I was like, Oh, I get to film him. And then I was like, Oh, you're,

Fucking conspiracy theory, like, asshole. Oh, no. I mean, he ended up really liking me because we, I just wouldn't take any of his shit. Yeah. Like, I remember. Literal hunk, by the way. We were, like, filming a scene and I'm just like, Chris, like, slap his butt. And then he'd be like, I'd be like, slap Chris, slap his butt. And he's like, my name isn't really Chris. So I'm not responding to that.

And then I went, oh, do you want me to say your real name on camera then? Engelberth. And so then I was like, okay, how about asshole? So every time I say asshole, slap his butt, that's you. But he like respected that. But then he would come up to me and he would be like, you have those faces. He's like, you got beat up a lot when you were in high school, right? And I was like, yeah. Oh my God. And he was like, I can tell you have like that face. Like when I see you, it's like, I just want to like throw you in a dumpster. Okay. Mary, I'm going to say.

Kind of hot, though. Yeah, he's so hot. I mean, he's wrestled me to the ground. He's gorgeous, but I will say for him, he's the level of straight where he would stop, look at the straight porn, get hard. Okay, Jeff. I'd call action. He'd run in and fuck the guy until it slowly went down, and then we'd cut, and he'd run back to the point. This is inconceivable to me. This is inconceivable to me because the money is not...

You'd have to be. Now, no. Back then, 2010. But it wasn't 200 grand, 300 grand, was it? 2010, five to $6,000 a scene. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. You couldn't make porn because now it's like $300. 300 to a thousand. Yeah. If you're bottoming. Yeah. For bottoming. It's really just adverse for your only fans.

it's exposure you know yeah what about we were at um we were at foobar once and we uh right out was dancing and you knew him and i was like oh my god i jerked off to that man in 2002 he's um now he's the opposite where he's like the nicest human being sweetheart he's someone where he's like i'm straight i will only he's married to a woman i'll only date women but when i'm doing porn it's fun

So that's his level of like, but he'll say he's straight because he will only date a woman, but he's technically bi. Yeah, he's somewhere in the... He's someone where he would just do this, put the condom on, be hard for five hours. I can't even do that. And his dick would just stay there. I can't even do that. It was like he was meant to do porn. Yeah. Also, Canada century. I was really meant to have sex. Incredible ass. I was going to say, like, I don't think I... But he had an acting problem where he was too much of a ham. Don't they all?

Too much of a what? A ham. Oh. Like I'd be like, okay, so the guy comes out of the shower and then you're like, ooh. But the guy would come out of the shower and he'd go, whoa. Oh, I love that. I love that. And I'd be like, that's... He's doing drag. Yeah, it's too much. Oh. Like, ooh. He's exactly like that. Ooh. Yeah. Like, he's the guy who when he'd come, he'd go, wee.

I love that. I have so many questions. I guess the number... I have like dramatic... A lot of people were like, oh man, it must be so funny. But it was mostly like... No. There's some like horror stories. Yeah. Such as? I love that you're like asking me if it's okay to talk about celebrity. And you're like, anyway, here's this person's social security number. Well, it's just weird where... Well, that one guy...

His girlfriend found out he was doing porn when he swore he wouldn't do it anymore. Okay. And then she called him and we're in the middle of the scene. Everybody's naked. And she threatened to abort their baby. Stop it. If he went through with the scene. Stop it.

And I was like, did he go through with the scene? Well, I was like, and he's like, I don't know what to do. I don't want to do it. I'm like, you don't have to do the scene. Like we can cancel. That's fine. And he's like, well, I still get paid. And I'm like, well, no, cause you're not going to do it. And then he's like, oh, fuck it. I'll do it. Damn. I never found out what happened to the baby. You can get pregnant again.

Yeah, it's not good. Also, you can't weaponize your pregnancy. You can't weaponize your pregnancy. You know what I mean? You can't weaponize your pregnancy. I don't know. At that point, I feel like if the termination happened, it was probably for the best. That's the thing. If you're calling your baby daddy on a porn set to threaten killing the baby. It's an embryo hostage situation. It's like, fuck him and I'll shoot. I also had a guy OD'd.

From Viagra. Oh my God. We took him out to Malibu just to do a solo scene. Malibu. And we were going to have him surf and then he was going to get in the back of this Jeep and then jerk off and he was having trouble getting hard. So I gave him a Viagra and then like a fool, I left the packet of Viagra in the front seat. So I was like, I'll give you some porn and I'll leave you some space and just knock on the door when you want us to come into film. He was nervous that he couldn't get hard so he took the whole, he took like eight Viagras.

That's what did he blood blood? Well, I was like, okay, I think we have to go to the hospital. Cause at first I come in and then I noticed they were all gone. And I was like,

did you take all of these and he's like no and i'm like okay i know you took all of these so tell me like you took all of that gives me so like and he's like no i didn't do it and i was like um you might die if you if you did take all these he's like what i just feel like i couldn't get heart so i needed more i'm like that's not how this works oh my god so we took him we had to cancel the shoot i took him back and i was basically just monitoring him

And then he didn't have to go to the hospital or anything, but he went kind of crazy. Yeah. Because then he was like, I want to get paid. I want to get paid. And then I was like, we're not doing the scene, so we're not going to pay you. Yeah. We're going to jerk off in the hospital bed. We're going to pay for you to fly out here. We give you compensation. We feed you and all that. But we're not going to give you thousands of dollars if you're not going to do it.

And he got very angry and then naked ran out of Randy's mansion running around. And, you know, he lives in like in Sherman Oaks. And I'm running and I'm outside running out like you have to get inside. And he's just like running around naked. Is it Randy Blue? Randy is a person. Randy is a person. Oh, I didn't know that. Randy who? Randy Blue. I'm not going to give his real. Oh, yeah. No, no. Isn't a porn name. That's the like the Sean Cody, you know, is the Randy Blue. Yeah.

I have a question. Did you like working in porn? It had its ups and downs. When it was two guys that liked to make porn, it was fun. Was it ever really hot? Was it actually hot? The hottest was when the person that said they were straight realized they were gay in the scene. And I'm filming the light bulb go off in their head. That's pretty hot. That's pretty cool. Did you ever...

That's pretty cool. Do people who aren't in the scene get boners during the scenes? I don't because I'm so concerned with the lighting and everything else. And a lot of times the PAs were straight dudes.

shut the fuck up really although we had one of my pas do you know the drag queen sarah problem sure yeah she was my pa for like a year i don't think but she was like i don't like any of these guys damn well that company is pretty like um clean cut also it's professional and for me like i wouldn't fuck any of them most of the time they did not

want to have anything to do with me. They're like, that's a, that's a, that's not even. Yeah. This little, this little pasty. Yeah. Mole person. Ginger, get away from us. Like, um, so for the most, but I also just had a hard line that I wouldn't do anything with them so that it would be like a level of respect. Cause I had some come in and they're just like, so like, when do I have to like have sex with you? And I'm like,

Are you serious? He's like, really? I don't have to. I don't know what happened to you. Harvey Weinstein. Apparently I hate to disappoint you. Yeah. But you can't fuck me. But you know what though? That's gay people though.

Tell them that this is the person you're fucking in the scene and they're like, nah. And then like, this is a person you legally can't fuck. And they're like, what's that? Yeah, totally. People only want to fuck the one you're not supposed to be fucking. So you never had like, I don't know. I've watched porn where it's like the camera guy gets into it. You never had like a moment where you got roped into the fantasy? Well, there's scenes like, you know, the POV scenes where like someone's riding someone or you're fucking someone. And then I would have to.

the place of the person. Of the fucker. Because it's a POV scene. And then here, my little rant. Most people today don't understand what POV means. Uh-huh. Pigs are vampires. But...

uh but pov is if your eyes are the camera a lot of people they'll just like literally put a camera there and they're like pov of me doing this and you're like i'm not a you yeah anyway i would have there's times where like i would be laying down and then the the porn star naked would get on top of me and pretend to ride me while i was pretending to be holy shit it moved that's pretty cool yeah

But still when you're like doing like fixing the lighting and the zooming you're not. It's a lot to keep track of. How did that prepare you for this job? Well, the blatant sexual harassment. I was ready for it. You learn to control your boners and you work with straight people. Yeah. My god. We're gonna take a break.

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So you finish your porn career. Then you move on at some point to jizz. No, no. Jizz was, that was all happening at the same time. Double jizz. Double jizz. I left porn and then I went from porn to drag queens. Which is just a lateral move. Yeah, it's literally three steps to the left. My resume just says faggot. Yeah.

It's a lateral move. Yeah. I have to ask, people at home might not know what jizz is. Do you want to tell them what it is? Of course I do. I'll kill you. I had watched this video where a friend of mine that I went to grad school with made these, there's these PSAs of G.I. Joe cartoon in like 2007 and he dubbed over them.

And then I was like, oh, they did PSAs of the Gem and the Holograms ones. I'm just going to do that. Oh, my God. And at the same time, I was watching an episode of the Golden Girls. And it was an episode where they all got colds. And I was like, oh, wouldn't it be funny if they all got HIV? And so I dubbed over that and the Gem and the Holograms ones. And I put them on my YouTube channel. Oh, my God.

And then unbeknownst to me, the next thing I know, I was like going into gay bars and they were like playing them like on the video screens. And I was like, oh no. They are so funny and so rotten. The Golden Girls ones have all been, I took them down and people, I actually had to re-go through all of the jizz videos because basically in the cartoon of Jem and the Holograms,

She has an orphanage and then decides to use a hologram machine to make her a pop star. And so I just made it that she's like a serial killer. And instead of an orphanage, it's like her brothel.

So all of the children are like prostitutes. And there's a lot of abortion. And there was, there's a lot of abortion jokes. It was my bread and butter for a while. I mean, just, but I actually had to re go through some of them. And I was like, yeah, that, that doesn't fit in today's society. Yeah.

And people beg me to put them back on. And I was like, it's just too much. You had to be there. You had to be there. Studio 54. And you will never be there again. Yeah, Studio 54. Well, I was thinking a lot like in the 2000s when like South Park Sarah Silverman came

The thing in comedy is they like to take the point of view of the racist and horrible person. Right. Yeah. And say the horrible thing to show like, isn't this ridiculous? As the ignoramus. Michael Scott. The stupidity. Exactly. And now you can't do that anymore. Just bringing it up is too triggery. Well, it's like Jemaine.

You don't want to be Jemay. You don't watch private school girl and go, she's a great person. I want to be her. You go, oh my God, I knew a girl like that. That is horrible. So it's just a dip. You just have to like, then you just have to evolve. But I still get, I get messages every day of like, please put this back up. I'm like, no, I mean, like people's temperature though. Like our edited YouTube version of own is like extremely edgy to some people.

Yeah. Well, I mean, you're funny. So like you can, you can use abortion jokes or not, or swear words or not. And it's still funny. Like I heard that comedian talking about like, if you don't know how to adapt to this quote unquote cancel culture, it's like, it's just a few words you can't say anymore.

then you weren't funny to begin with. You know, in the end, if it's funny, it's usually ends up not being offensive. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, Sarah Silverman's program was like a really good example of that. It was like, Oh my God, that show be Sarah Silverman. That show, that whole episode where she's like, I need good news. I'm going to go get an AIDS test.

That was a whole episode. Or like when she was like, I need to know like a walk a mile in my shoes. She put a black face. Yeah. And everyone's yelling disgusting because people in the world are saying black face is disgusting. Yeah. But she's going, wow, people do think that this is disgusting. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then again, you don't want to be Sarah Silverman. She's not portraying a good person. No. She's always the idiot. I'm okay with someone portraying a shitty person to show how shitty people are. Yeah. I'm okay with the logic of that.

but the algebra doesn't work for everyone now. But I mean, it ties to drag queens. Like I love Nina West. I just saw a video of her doing a Nickelodeon song. And I said, I would never in a million years for a million dollars do this. I have no interest in making people feel good. It was, it's, I like making people laugh, but I'm not,

I'm not the big comfy couch of drag. I don't care. It was... I thought it was... It was a strange experience. Well, I'm sure at Nickelodeon they had to make some kind of pride thing where they touched on every color of the flag in a way that was... It was for kids too. Yeah, of course. However, watching it, I was like, wow, I would never be a part of this. My mom could be hanging over a shark tank and I'd be like...

You're going for a swim, bitch. Bon appetit, bitch. Yes. I just think with comedy, especially like with white, it goes both ways of like, some people will watch Nina West and Nickelodeon and go, this is too much. Yeah. But, and also though, but can you like, some line reads, I cannot deliver sincerely. I'll just say no.

Yeah. I just can't do it. I can't do it. Like I couldn't if I tried, if the mom was over the shark tank. Pride month. Some of the copies you send for like corporate things like, hi honey, are you feeling fierce diva? Yeah. It's like, oh my God.

Oh my God. Ooh, I'm ready to work it diva because it's time to work it. Have you seen that? There's a TikTok where this comedian girl is like, happy pride month. Meg's daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For buttercream. Buttercream. You sashay into our buttercream store. I mean, it's so funny. I actually put it on the podcast last week. She's really funny. Yeah, she's amazing. Yeah,

I, but I, I was always that, but I, I was always definitely the outcast gay. I think if you're not like the muscle queen, then you're just like, I, I always hated pride. I still do. Like, so I, I hate it. I don't hate it. I just don't enjoy it. Should kink be a pride? Should it be a pride? I'm like, I'm not going either way. So it doesn't, it doesn't matter to me. Yeah. And for me, like kink, not being a pride is an option because I'm everyone's kink. Oh,

Universal appeal. Well, can't get pride. I mean, for me, I mean, I know I don't speak for everyone, but I'll just say in general, I think in drag, we used to offend the old conservatives. And now in drag, the people most offended by us are the youngest liberals. Yeah. So the Gen Z. Yeah. So it's like,

We used to have your grandma being like, I don't like it. And now we're passing the torch to people who are like, that torch is hot. Yeah. And not everybody likes hot. So I will not be a part of it. Also, but what is it? It's a Speedo and a harness. No one's like eating someone's hole. Well, no. They are. Go to a different price. Go to Nickelodeon Pride with Nina West. Jesus Christ. You don't have to stick two inches of your tongue in my gaping hole.

I know that we live in a different world, but like there's different types. If you want that type of pride, go to Target and buy a rainbow tote bag on June 1st. I'll be over here watching people get fucking opened up. Okay. Well, it's the gooning and baiting. Gooning and baiting at Target. Gooning. There's a...

Near the linens. There's a problem. I think it's like when you're under, like if you remember when you were under 21, you're like, oh my God, it's so unfair that we can't get into the bars. And then when you're over 21, you're like, oh, thank God. None of you can come to the bars. Absolutely. Absolutely. I don't even get, I mean, once in a while, so I just saw something really similar to be like,

drag is my safe space and I should be able to enjoy it without being offended. I was like, that is the opposite of the experience you should have with drag. You should see a million drag shows and still go in on show number a million and one and something should shock you. Yeah, or literally hit you in the face. I've talked about drag queens that are, Christine, love the idea. Aggressive. It's too far for me. It's too far for me. Confrontational. I like her as a person. I'll never see a Christine show because I'm like, I don't like poop stuff.

She does a lot of poop stuff. Butt stuff. Yeah, poop stuff. Killing your mom? Great. Poop? No. That's where I draw the line. But again, it's just like, but my line isn't everyone's line. Right, right, right. So who cares? Did you have any... So you go to the gay bar and they're playing the Golden Girls or Jizz and you were like, is this really happening? Yeah, the very first one is I did God I'm a Whore instead of Part of Your World of The Little Mermaid because I did a lot of Disney songs.

And that was the first one that like showed up. And then I was like, and then I suddenly got interviewed for like butt magazine and like, yeah. And then I just started getting like millions of views and it was just very, and I was like, Oh, I guess I should just keep doing this. Yeah. But then it's just very tiring to try and keep up. I then went to did punky Brewster. I did spunky cooter. Shut the facts of life. I did fucked for life. Yeah.

But I, and I showed, I showed, I personally showed you that one. You've showed me some. And I had to take that one down because that was a little too offensive. I just love it. There's no line for me. And I did Thundercunts instead of Thundercats. Right. I love, see, how old are you?

How dare you? I just turned 45. I was going to say, we're around the same age. He is ageless. I need everybody to look in the camera. Look at Jeff. This is fucking L'Oreal Regenerist spokeswoman right here. How are you doing this? Yeah. I just don't go in the sun. Yeah, that's, yeah, he doesn't. 31 years old. I look like the alien inside the head in Men in Black. I'm 27. I look like my own grandfather.

And she had a 40th birthday and she's still 27. Can you believe? Well, 28, 29. It's all a blur. It's nebulous. So wait, wait, wait, wait. You, cause we're of the same kind of generation. All these shows that you're pairing are like shows I grew up watching. Yeah. Thundercats, Gem and the Holograms, obsessed with them. So like they have, they're so special to me. Because that's the thing is when I watch TV, if you want to watch TV with me, I'm constantly dubbing over a horrible trauma that doesn't belong there. Yeah. Like I'm just watching horror.

Like was watching mayor of East East town. And then it's just like the kid did it. And then I'm just like, Ooh, yeah, well, you're like, I'm just like the most inappropriate thing. And that's why I have to release it. Yeah. And I think that was the other problem is I started doing like a Mario Diaz started having me do shows like performing as jizz at bars. Oh, wow. And then I would like be doing standup sets, like make it like just these. And I was, it was,

People thought like I was that character. Oh, just be like, yeah, let's fucking do heroin in the bathroom and like, fuck this and let's go and like fucking break into a house. And I'm just like, Oh no, I know. So how long did you leave a heroin? Yeah. I could see that. They'll just assume that you're fucking off the rails. I did hook up with a guy who did heroin on the, on the date. Wow. How did that come up? What was that transition on the date?

could you tell okay it wasn't really a date we i picked him up at a bar well it's and then i'm driving him back to my place he's like wait wait wait stop stop stop stop and then he gets up runs down an alley and a guy hands him a bag and then he gets back in the car and then i was like oh i guess he's just doing some cocaine or whatever he snorts the whole bag and then by the time we get to my house it was like oh my god yeah is that ignorant

I thought Aaron was this. You can do it all types of ways. Oh. Yeah. Did you fuck? No, he was like, it was just like, oohs. And so then I just like- Poured him out of the car. Poured him out of the car by the subway stop in Chicago. And then hopefully he was okay. And then I went home. Let's take a break. Oh, let's take a break. And we're back. Yes, we are. So, okay. How does it feel to-

Sort of be the unsung hero. How does it feel to have a peenie in the poopy? How does it feel to have a peenie in the poopy? How do you know when it goes inside? Is there a popping sound? No. Like, how does it feel to be the unsung hero? I feel like this is less of the case now as people become more aware of you guys' genius. But like, you know, we get all the credit for the show being amazing and we have very little to do with it sometimes. What are you talking about? Well, I mean, come on. I mean, it's literally...

Your funny words that is an incredible body just embellishing But I mean, I I don't know I've like I've really enjoyed this season I watched them on my giant television three to four times and

In a row. Yeah. And I know that we're all doing it for the love of it. Not that we all get paid, whatever. But this season, I don't know what it is. You guys are on a journey. It's psycho. It's the craziest, funniest season. That is the thing with me and Ron are now attached at the hip. Yeah. And we...

We kind of are just like in this battle with each other of like, I want to be able to make you laugh. Yeah. I want to try to do something crazier. And then it's like, Oh, I just saw that crazy thing you did shit on the next one. I need to do something crazy to show you. Yeah. Like, yeah. How do I tap into that competitive spirit in order to do something good? Why start now? Why start now, honey? Because I'll ask this question. Can you guys tell who's editing what?

Because for us, it's so obvious. I can. It's split in half. Yeah. So I do one half. He does other half. We switch whether it's first or last. But for us, it's so obvious. But most people can't tell. I can because I think you've worked because you've worked for me with other projects. And I kind of know. Yeah. What's your tea? I think I can tell in the beginning because, you know, we usually have like almost like a cold open before we do our intros. That will usually be the telltale of like what you did with us being miked. Yeah. Yeah.

Like there was one I think it was you was an alien the music's like to buy to buy to oh, yeah Did you do you did the the hallucinating in the lake of incest yeah, yeah or didn't you do an episode with a whole like National Geographic opening with birds

Yeah, that was... The constant bird... The wild flamingos of Sumatra. The birds, every time I laugh, the birds. Also, the... But that's a combination where...

He was the one, Ron just put bird noises. Okay. And then I put your voice on an echo. Uh-huh. And then he, and then he, and then he did like a flapping sound. Uh-huh. And then eventually another one, then I added an actual birds flying. Yeah. So then it's like, that one's like a joint effort. Pretty soon you could just do nature documentaries. Yeah. Like just screw us. David A. Ferrell. The newest one where it was a bunch of superhero graphics.

crazy so funny Otter Man Beaver Man everything it was just so great the Ann Getty honestly we've talked about it we when we do the show we black out so I leave there kind of I get home my boyfriend goes what did you guys talk about

No idea. And also it wasn't funny. Like sometimes I get the distinct impression. I'm like, we flopped. Yeah. Like, well, that's, I mean, I know the lunch episode is going to be bad, but other than that, no, but there's been times where the funniest episodes, I'm like, what? Yeah. There's a few where I'm like, why was this? So I think also there's some where it's like,

You guys have varying energy depending on the episode. Yeah. And sometimes what you... Depending on a lot of things. The moon. Like the moon. A lot of different compounds. No, there's the moon. It's the weather. I'll say there's one. Ready for love. You just kept talking about like, I don't think I can do another. Oh, I was so tired. I'm so tired. But you were so tired. And even Pete was like, you know, Katya was very tired. I hope we can get something out of this. He kept saying he was tired. But you were so...

You were at the point where then you were just crazy. Yeah, it was loopy. Hilarious. Weather. Same thing happened with weather. I think weather was after that. You're just like a lawn dart shot me in my pussy. That was weather happened after that. Oh, and then weather too. Weather. We were so over it. The second wind of psychosis. Yeah. It's sometimes. Weather was so funny. And that was the episode that we were like, what's the topic that we would talk about if we were out of topics? The weather. Why?

Why was weather so unhappy? That's one of my favorite ones. Weather. I think tomorrow we're talking about news. The news. The news, yeah. We're talking about injuries, maybe. Injuries, and I think money again. Money. I like all. Yeah, there was a bunch of other ones too that they're all very exciting to me. Yeah. What's your favorite ones you've done? Favorite episodes of Unn?

Also, do you have any suggestions? Yeah, please help us. Okay. Abortion. I'm still waiting to do suicide. There's a few I don't like. I don't like when things get brought in. I don't like the doll episode. I don't like the food episode. No props. No props. No guests. I don't like the animals. No guests. I think the pet one worked, but mostly because Jaguar Jane was pretty cool. She was cool. She was. When she talked about the rodent masturbating. Yeah. The chinchilla masturbating.

I don't remember that. I got to rewatch. I remember. Plus there's a whole bird box scene that's amazing in pets. Okay. I just don't like guests. Yeah. It's a different show. I like it actually. Like whether, like, I think if you just did something like colors, like,

Or textures. Textures. Our new series, which is colors, textures, sounds, scents, vibes. Oh my God. Cause I feel those make you go off the rails a bit. And that's when I, I abstract. Let's I, anytime you guys get up,

Which is a lot. It's going to be funny. If you want technical notes, I can give you technical notes. I didn't get up when I was wearing that gorge. I looked so hot in the most recent episode. I did not get up once and show that body. No, you got to get up. When I'm feeling it, I take a lap. I should have took several struts, laps, like spread eagles, everything. It was a real disappointment on my part. The one problem with the pandemic shooting with spread out is you guys tend to be more

Yeah. Profile. Turned away. As somebody who's from the side, looks like my face was cooked in a grill. I understand. Yeah. I was watching the episode yesterday and I was like,

I look like one of the Canadians in South Park. Just like lines on my face is so bad. It's rotten. We could be like Raven and Raja who just never look at each other. Oh, Trixie, that's a very interesting point of view. You should just be side-eyeing each other. I love that comedic take you said on color. You've never looked better in your whole life. That's horrible. I don't like it. I'm like this. You can't see anything. You also work on Wait What?

I did Wait What? I did Wait What? What the fuck is Wait What? It's Kimora and Derek talking about like math, science. Oh my God. And it's just... What if they said that you're like, are they kidding that they don't know that? Well, the first one, it was Kimora and Mariah Balenciaga and it was the solar system. Oh my God. And it was just like... Please talk. I gotta go watch it. And Kimora Black was just like...

Well, like, you know, because the moon, there's like the moon and the sun. And then she was like, well, then the moon's on Jupiter. He's like, what do you mean? There's like one moon.

And then Mariah's like, no, other planets have moons. What? No, they don't. And then it was like, what's the biggest planet? She's like the sun. The sun's the biggest planet. And then she was like, no, the sun is a star. The sun is not a star. Like, it's just like, oh, it's just. I love not knowing paired with conviction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the key there. The sun is not a star. Yeah. Well, I watched an episode of that. I do remember now. And I had to turn off because I was thoroughly depressed.

It made me depressed. At the school system that they went to. Yeah. Someone lied to her several times. Someone lied to her. Yeah. But some were crazy where Derek Barry once was just like, have you ever done like, you know, played a clarinet? And she's like, the one that plugs in the wall, the like straight, and she's like, a hair straightener? Why would you think a clarinet is a hair straightener?

That's incredible. That's incredible. Those things. Derek Barry went on a five minute speech about what longitude and latitude is wrong. But the whole funny thing is she's just going, you'd think longitude would be long up, up in this way, but it's not. And then I'm just putting in the graphics. It is. It is.

It's fine. No, but when when we started a while presents plus I did all of them I did detox Detox is video jinx is cool mom Was it um tea with Tati or something with Tati I did I did Wait, what's the white Valentina? Oh, yeah had one I did all of those. How do you find time to do? I mean cuz I know un Sorry, it takes you guys like

a week how do you find but if you even look at the older episodes they're not as insane yeah so now is just like it's so insane now it just takes up it's like rick and morty for sake i mean it's like a huge it's a giant well that's because i added i mean i will say i i felt like i was bringing wow into the 21st century because there were times where i was just like i don't mean to like but i was like we need to do more crazy graphics so i would just

take the stuff that i had at home like the software i had at home and then just start doing crazy stuff and then they're like oh you need to do this on this show and i'm like oh this is my own software that i put on yours so then i they were then forced to buy it damn and but then it kept but like now i just got the facetune where i can put your old lady faces on you and stuff baby filters the whole time i just put an old lady face on you

just earlier today. I need to see it. You put it on our few years ago, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to see it. I love those filters. I mean, and you can, don't get me started about those filters, but okay, so where do you think, like, what do you think we could do to... Why do you want to work at this company? What can you offer us? What kind of skills do you think would provide an asset to the development of our company's strategy for development? What should we do to make the show better?

Or should we not do? Do we do anything that we should not be doing? Okay, here's what I will say. I think when you guys talk about a topic that you hate, it's not as funny. Lunch. Yeah. Because when you're just saying, I hate this, I hate this, I hate this. Positive. You gotta keep it positive. It's harder to find the funny things. Yeah, it's like, no.

It's not yes and it's no. I mean, it's fine to like talk about something and then you hate something and it can be funny. But if the whole episode is about something you hate, it's harder to find things that are funny. Yeah. Do you think that generally she's the problem? Because I hate her. And so everything turns, you know what I mean? Do you love, I wish Ron was here. Not that you're not your own feature. Do you love working with Miss Ron? Yes. She's an icon. We're pretty much going to just...

Like if we're doing other projects, we want to work together. Tie your penises together and piss in each other's holes. And I'm sure, you know, we're happy we have you. I'm sure that you guys will someday move on to other dream projects. I hope you don't. Hopefully you can work together on other projects too in your life. What would you guys make? What's your dream project? If Wow said, we're quitting, the show's over, here's a severance, what would your dream next thing be?

um and the severance is 100 million i'll just say you'll see because that might be happening more porn not that we're being fired or anything but porn but no but we we're we we are working on other shows together oh like really just wipe out with john cena nicole biner well just stuff to kind of like what what our crazy editing style like what else could it be yeah uh good at yeah

But first and foremost, we want to just keep doing your stuff because that's the thing is like, it's also like our baby. And if I saw someone else editing it, like I might have to kill them. Yeah, I don't think I would. I wouldn't allow that. It's like, you know, you go to the same obstetrician your whole life. You're not going to switch or you're a seventh kid. Yeah. When did you join the show? Were you in the show for the...

Not from the very beginning. No, it was 2017. It was the first one. The crazy thing is, the first two episodes I had to do was the one with Courtney Act and then the one with Willem. Oh, weird. So I had to do the two weird guest spot ones. Yeah, that was weird. That was weird. Yeah. Courtney just making us look like the Kennel Club and Willem totally... She's sitting foot behind us. Yeah. So skinny and little and beautiful. Yeah. Just like dog show. And then Willem was so weird. Yeah. I just think Willem, he said he'd do it and then he...

Kind of just didn't seem like he wanted to do it. And they wore a suicide bomb vest. Yeah. Suicide bomb vest. Yeah. Suicide bomb vest. Love that. Love that. Well, I don't like having guests, honestly. No, I hate it. Okay, goodbye. This is fine, but I like doing just us. It just makes it easier. Yeah. Well, so you guys have, you've worked together so long. You have a groove.

a riff yeah that if someone else is there it it would disrupt it it completely especially if it's someone that i would say thinks they're funny but if so it's someone who wants to be funny no but if you have a guest that like wants to like it's courtney yeah yeah it's funny i i did um oh ow ow ow my knee ow my knee the don't touch the video games episode

Was that? It was Mary. I, I, whatever. I love them both. I love everyone. Fucking Dugan. And also that video game episode. Well, we cut.

It was also I wore a sweater at the end of the day was sweating like a fucking cracky and I was so I hated it so much. Yeah, it just it wasn't them. It just every time. Nice guy. Yeah. Nice guy. Super nice. But every time we add a person to just throws off the groove. Yeah. Well, it's like you can't you know, it's not like Abbott and Costello in and you know, it's just those two. Yeah. Well, yeah. Statler. Statler and Waldorf.

So who is that? The old men from the Muppets. Oh, the Muppets. Yeah, the Muppets. Yeah, sadly that's us. Laverne and Shirley. Did you ever get into the mystery science? Do you think that's where part of your POV comes from with like talking to the television? I did watch that show. I don't know. I think when I was a little kid, I would just, my mom got me a tape recorder and I would just tape record things

Shows and I had one it was called tape record the TV. No, I would just take record myself And of course I found these videos me eight sounded just like this young lovely woman Did you get the woman voice on the phone where people thought you were miss whatever that happens to me? I haven't you like yesterday cuz also when I get played I just my voice just yeah, no, I used to work in insurance and I held an insurance meeting and

And then, and apparently I was rude. It was like over a phone call. And then they had a meeting and they're like, we need to talk. Apparently this company called saying that the person, this woman named Jess, this woman named Jess was very rude, but no one named Jess works here. And she said it was a very rude woman named Jess. And I'm like, oh, it's Jeff. She,

just she auto-corrected misgendered at the gig misgendered by a colonial woman yes the human well that's great though you had an out she's like I don't know who Jess is no but as a kid I always was just recording over and doing fake commercials I love to do fake douche commercials at like 10 and I would make up different flavors because you know how it was always like summers yeah but it's like you know like water and vinegar and then I'd be like no crab shell and barnacle like and I was like 10 years old I found these I'm like oh my god I'm so funny

That is brilliant. The women's like product smells get me. It's like summer peach. Yeah. Or like, it's like, um, he's the autumn. Yeah. It's like so bizarre. Always, always, always some kind of consumable. Yeah. Yeah. A vague. Yeah. It's so weird. It's a summer sirloin. Yeah. I think I was just obsessed with feminine products. Yeah. And the, the whole, basically the female mystique was just a mystery to me.

Also the way female products are marketed. I know that it's now very dated and gross, but it's also mama production fantasy creating a narrative. Yeah. Mystery. Yeah. I always complained why the blue liquid when you're testing the maxi, the maxi pad. You can't show blood. Yeah. Because it's, it's clinical. It's not, um,

It's like scientific. That's what I'm saying. Can you imagine if there was two pads and just red? Soaked with chunky, chunky, congealed menstrual blood. Because there shouldn't be no shame. No, there shouldn't. There shouldn't be any shame. It's anti-women. If that was a men's product, we would see the blood.

We would see everything. Yeah. And he'd be celebrated. Probably get it. There'd be a trophy in there somewhere. Do you like when the people follow you on the internet? Evil Jeff? I do, but I'm not like obsessed with it. I've always discovered like if I put, if I put stuff like on social media, I get more followers and I'm like, Ooh, that's great. But it has not inspired me to,

I also, I don't like documenting myself or my friends or my food. And you have a boyfriend long term. Yes. Yeah. You guys have been together a long time, right? Almost five years. Wow. Wow. Good for you. That's wild. We became boyfriends three days before Trump was elected. Oh, wow. So we've just been in this trauma. Forged in the fire. David and I, our third date was the night Trump was elected. Are you serious? Yeah.

We went to see Hedwig at the Angry Inch at the Pantages and we walked out and we checked our phones and then we just kind of killed the vibe. I mean, we still fuck. Who was Hedwig? Darren Criss. Oh, okay. Darren Criss. It was good. How was your sex life with your boyfriend?

Great. It's good. It's like, you know, at this point it's like, it's like from romantic sex. Yeah. Not, um, a lot of whispering. We're open. We're open. So we get to have the dirty, nasty, gross sex with other people. Yeah. I think we have the same relationship. Yeah. Same time span. Yeah. That's great.

Does he love what you do? Does he think it's funny? Yes. He does? Because I used to do more comedy like pre-pandemic and he would come to all my stand-up sets. Yeah, you did a lot of stand-up. Yeah, I do stand-up. I do improv. I was on main stage teams at IO, UCB, Second City. Wow.

And he would come to all my shows. That was, I mean, if someone's going to date you, if you do comedy and you're dating someone, they have to think you're funny. They have to. Or what? Like I was going through the groundlings and I was dating a guy and he, I looked into the audience during my, my show to see if I could get into the Sunday company and he was on his phone. Eight months. I mean, you have to be. Aborted.

Yeah You have to at least Get the vibe You know what I mean You have to at least get it Yeah My boyfriend thinks I'm funny Thinks other people are funnier Which I think is a great balance Oh yeah Yeah yeah yeah Great balance You don't want them to be obsessed with you No They can't be your number one fan He understands why people like what I do Yeah He's like Jinx would do it better Like he loves Jinx Batsune Yeah He's like Jinx would sing it higher And have a better joke at the end Which is perfect Perfect

And he thinks you're great. He doesn't think you hung the moon in the sky. No. Well, like, does your boyfriend think, um, do you like comedy in general? Yeah. Okay. So he's like, but he's, he's a storyboard artist for DreamWorks. So he's a very like cartoon Disney. He's like a Disney gay. Oh God. How do you deal with that?

I don't mind Disney. Do you drink? No. Have you seen Disney porns? I recently watched a few. Disney porns? Pocahontas. Yes, Pocahontas. There was the white guy, John Miller or John Peterborough or whatever the guy was. The colonial life. James Gunn. Was getting DP'd by a trio of Indians. I was gay?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were they Native Americans playing the Native Americans? No, it's a cartoon. Oh. It's a cartoon. It's like Pocahontas, but Pocahontas or something. Oh. Yeah. It was, I recommend. Would you ever go back to porn? No. I will say I, the company went under before I got to make my

Dream porn. My dream. Which was what? Well, cause I made, I always wanted to do a porn version of Mulholland drive, which I did, which is called welcome to LA. I've seen, I've seen it. It's not like exactly. I couldn't go full. It's like three parts, right? It's, it's two parts. Um, and each one takes place in a different neighborhood in Los Angeles. I think, um, yes, I know. Welcome to LA. Yeah. And then every Halloween I get to do a different horror movie.

And then I wanted to do the final horror movie. I saw the movie It Follows and it like changed my life. So I wanted to do It Comes. Or It Swallows would be good too. Yeah, but I mean, we want fucking. Yeah, we don't just want to swallow. Also, they don't want swallowing important. They want to see The Come. They need to see it. Why is it like Come when they finish in someone? It never happens. And then it drips out. Or doesn't. You could tell someone's climaxing without seeing The Come.

Yeah. Or this, you can fake it. Yeah. I, he, Jeff opened my eyes to the whole phenomenon of faking cum. I had no idea. Yeah. He fucked me and he put that C to fill up my ass and he made me squirt it out.

We had a C to fill. Well, no, we actually bought, there was cum lube. Cum lube, yeah. There's lube that looked just like cum. Yeah. Oh, I know. I didn't know. Now I know. I look out for it. And the thing is, I would do these scenes where I'm like, you're going to pretend like, uh-oh. Oh, no, no. And then you look at me, the cameraman, and pretend. And then I'll be like, what do you do? No, no, no, no. And then you'll be like, oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, no. And then I'm like, oh, no. And people will be like, that's the hottest thing. It was so real. And I'm like.

You know what that is too? It's how you need, you need make it best to look natural, but it takes makeup to look natural. That's the energy. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for joining us. What a thrill. What an insightful journey and what a talent and what a man, what a guy. I miss the world of wonder building being open because I miss coming in and getting in drag and seeing you. I know. I know. That's bother you. You guys ever going to come back?

June 15th building opens up. I would, I would like it if like, if you're shooting, I would love to just come down and say hi. Yeah. Do that. But I mean, honestly, um, fuck us. Well, no, no, no. I'm just saying for them to reset all of the computer stations back up at that. I mean, who knows when they're going to do that again? Yeah. They wilded out with the COVID stuff. It's a mess. They really did. We were miking ourselves. Yeah. Is there going to be a point where you can sit close together again?

I hope so. We're both vaccinated. Yeah. At this point. Because even though it's way easier to edit to like cut you guys out and put you in crazy things. I like to be able to touch her. I mean, not sexually. I like it when you touch each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can tell our eyesight. We don't look like we're looking at someone two feet away. Yeah. It looks like you're seeing someone across. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now the smell has been nice to keep that for me. And the air conditioning has been really good. Oh, yeah.

fierce mama oscar-winning oscar-worthy jeff let these whores know where they can follow me find you um you can follow me on evil jeff at instagram the evil jeff on twitter and um and you can listen to i do a podcast called comic book queers if you ever want to know whether wolverine and spider-man if they fucked of who would be the top and bottom

Listen to Comic Book Queers on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all that shit. I just saw Wolverine fuck Deadpool last night. Where? Yeah, cartoon. I'll let you know. Text me these links. We'll post the link in the chat. Okay, bye. ... ... ...

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