In this edition of Between Three Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk to Alex Joske, author of a book about how the Chinese Ministry of State Security (MSS) has shaped Western perceptions of China. They discuss the MSS’s position in the Chinese bureaucracy, its increasing role in cyber espionage, its use of contractors and the PRC’s vulnerability disclosure laws.
Show notes
- [Spies and Lies (Joske book)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spies_and_Lies_(Joske_book)))