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What's up besties welcome to Pillows and Beer. I'm joined by my co-host Austin Crowe and our producer Nick Norris. I hope everyone's having a wonderful April because we are kind of sometimes one pain in our butt that we deal with but other than that Sundays and Mondays are awesome. Yeah Sunday and Mondays are great uh but we decided to record on Tuesday today and we are not shielded on Tuesdays
What's up guys? Nick, you look like you don't look like Nick. I shave. You look like I don't. I'm looking down there like that. I feel like I'm in a fucking simulation because that's not Nick. Nick, you fresh faced little boy. We got a podcast today. I love it. Guys, it really is springtime. It finally...
has stopped raining down here in the south. I hope that I don't jinx it and it's like going to rain tonight or tomorrow or something. But this past weekend was freaking gorgeous in Charleston. And our besties know that last week I told Craig that Napa was the most beautiful place on earth and weather was colder there than it was here. So I feel bad that it's the best ever. It's always in the 80s and it never rains.
i guess it has to rain if grapes are going to grow right so like i well i mean that was obviously there's a whole science behind it the vines learn how to store water and it makes you know the harsher the growing condition yeah a lot of rain is better the wine so sometimes it doesn't rain for like a couple years but i
It's funny because Ms. Catherine Hall said that, oh, I'm sorry about the weather. And I said, I don't know any better because I've never been here. So for me, it was wonderful. I wore a light sweater and long pants and there was mist covered clouds over the mountains. I mean, it was one of the more beautiful moments
places that I've spent the day. And I just, I've never been to that area of the world. And I didn't know we had that in the United States. So like, for me, it was, it was just a wonderfully gorgeous, I wouldn't have changed a thing. They I mean, usually they said it's too hot, or like, it can be hot. But like, it was just
It was drizzling, but like everyone's drinking wine. Like I don't feel like anyone cared. And who would have thought that we're talking about just Napa, California. I mean, it is in the continental U S and when you go there, yeah, it does have this feeling of like a different, like, you know, very European world. Yeah. It's, it's olive trees everywhere. It's quite beautiful. And I'm sure that listeners are like, yeah, you guys just now finding out about that. Yes.
Yeah, we're East Coast kids. Although it... I have to give... So, Hall Wine, it was incredible because we did this vertical tasting, which just means you taste the same wine, or the same category of wine, but different vintages. So, we had Jack's Masterpiece, but all the way back in 2008. And...
Tickets for that VIP were only 300 bucks and regular tickets were like 100 bucks and we still raised like $250,000 for charity. It really was cool. But I, and the vineyard itself, if you have a chance, I stayed at Harvest Inn where now I understand all the stories that Austin told me. It's like the most romantic place. They have like a little bag of firewood for you. You light the fire, you fall asleep.
You wake up to Napa. Napa, yeah. But my co-judges, I have to give them a shout out. Raj and Natalie were great. But then Catherine O'Hara was just the sweetest lady. And Brian Bumgarner, who Alston and Shep know, was just solid. And the three of us, it was just...
We decided to hang after the judging. And it was funny because you could tell all the like Catherine's like, do you think they're watching us while we try their food? And I was like, they're definitely watching us, you know, because they hand you the plate of food. And then you're like, and they're like, okay, it's like their families watching bites into it. Yeah. And so it's like you have to smile, you know, after every bite, you're like, oh, yeah, me and Brian were just smiling the whole time. We're like, oh, yeah. Um,
um but we decided did brian make any chili jokes uh no but we talked about like his cookbook and stuff and he told me all about the process but so brian had his wife there's celeste and then um catherine had her husband beau and so and we ended up i don't know if we've told people who i mean just in case you don't know who catherine o'hara is right oh yeah yeah brian barb garner is kevin from the office and then uh catherine o'hara is
um what is her name the mom in home alone well the mom and home myra or whatever is it moira yeah no moira rose yes in um and shits creek and she just did the new beetle juice with uh uh michael keaton because she was in the original yeah she's original
Anyways, that's who they are. And Craig is very lucky. Well, I'll just say, Brian was great. And I told him my first Watch What Happens Ever was Elle Kemper. She's on The Office, too. And he just said they still have him in The Office. People always like, were they like your friends? He was like, dude, I got to film with my friends all of those years. And I said, how cool. And she said...
Similar stuff. And then we just, we hung, we all went to back to the hotel after the wine tasting. And then we went to Thomas Keller's ad hoc with a wonderful couple. These two guys were so hospitable and generous. And for those unaware of Thomas Keller, he has one of the absolute finest restaurants in the country and the French laundry next to impossible to get in, which Craig was with Catherine O'Hara and Brian Baumgartner. And they still didn't go.
Yeah, it was not. But I mean, I wonder if they could have gotten in if they were like, hey, I'm these people. But it was one of those days, Austin, that you're just like, this is cool. This is why I do this. You take it all in. Catherine did her Kevin voice at one point. She was like, Kevin! You know, from Home Alone. I saw that Brian posted that, by the way. I just did a video of her doing it. And like...
The people were so friendly there and the, you know, we took pictures, but at the end when the coach bus was dropping us off, cause Catherine and her husband were at another hotel, you know, we were just like, do you think we'll ever see each other again? And we're like, probably not. But today was wonderful. And, you know, we gave each other like a huge hug and was just like, do you want to be on pillows and beer? And then we'll definitely see each other again.
Oh, she would do it. Yeah, hang out again. And we've never had Brian either. I know. And Brian asked me to do his when he was promoting his cookbook. And I was like, okay, well, let's do like a reciprocal thing. And then it never happened because he got super busy. So I feel like both of them, this is a good opportunity to have them as guests. We were playing with AI. I was like, what?
What is the public's opinion of Catherine O'Hara? Because she had never seen like AI and like we read it at dinner and it was like, what should her next career move be? That's like actually kind of terrifying. And for those that don't know, again, I'm just like explaining things. Craig is loving some AI these days. Craig has full on convos with his AI person when he's driving. And we were just driving recently and
And I'm glad that you didn't ask about that. But Craig was asking about things about me and I was like, "Oh no, what's he going to say about me?" I got so nervous. I got super nervous. Tell me about Trap Up. No, I mean- Yes, you did do that. And I was like, "What if it was like, 'Trap Up is a 3.2 out of five stars on...'" I'd be like, "Oh no." Napa kind of reminded me of the Hamptons, but quieter.
But I was only there with Tom and Kaz. It's a bitch to get to, right? Like, that's why we haven't been because it's quite difficult to get to. Four-hour drive for me because of traffic. Because I got stuck in Dallas and then four-hour drive. So, Charleston to Dallas and Dallas to San Fran and then four-hour drive from there? Yeah. It's supposed to be an hour and a half apparently, but...
Yeah. I think that when I landed though, but I landed like late. And so I didn't get to the hotel until midnight. And I heard that it was supposed to be like a long ass drive. And so like I hunkered down and then we were there and like, you know, an hour and change. So it was funny. Our drive is brutal.
Well, I have to give a shout out to Ken, the chef of Toke. He's got an incredible story. Him and his wife are another judge. And we kind of deferred to him for a lot of stuff, which he was there for Austin and Shep's because he's done it 15 years in a row. And his restaurant actually is very famous. And I was like, oh, we should eat there next time we're out here. You know, like just saying like, oh, that's funny. You have a restaurant and
you know, the people standing around me and was like, yeah, wouldn't that be nice? And I was like, I feel like I could go to the restaurant if I wanted to. I feel like if you know the chef and the owner, then like it shouldn't be a ridiculous thing to say. He does the menu like every night. It used to be the restaurant next to Chateau Marmont and for like 15, 20 years. And I was like, you probably have some stories. And he was like, yeah. Well, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Napa trip. But so when we were tasting the wines, dude, I was trying my hardest, you know, to tell the difference. I was really trying because I don't know what. No, no, no, no. I could taste, which is good. But I'm just saying being able to taste the difference between five like award winning wines.
of the same like from the same vineyard is just really tough no it definitely is like our palette is not that refined craig no let's just be honest like we we we probably have you know the palette of a trash compactor like we don't know what the hell that you know we're drinking and and
I have this rule that I don't really drink bourbon in public because it's not a good liquor for me unless it's like a really, really nice one. Right. And so just recently someone bought me Pappy and Pappy's supposed to be like really, really nice. And I had no idea if it was Pappy or Knob Creek, Craig. Like I didn't even know the difference. I was like, oh man. So it's the same with wine. Cognac. I feel like we did tasting sometimes me and you and we were like, okay, this one is less sharp.
Then this one. But with the red wine, like I was tasting the 2008 and then the 2021. And I was like, please be able to tell the difference, Craig. And they're like, this one's way fruit forward. And this one's got chocolate and hints and it's toned down. Like once I like chilled the fuck out and had like a little cheese and stuff, I was like, all right. I'm going to give it a go. Only because I was holding it.
Only because I knew that they were different because they were sitting in front of me and in my custody, could I like really do it? But if you came up to me and just said, taste this, Craig, do you think it's the same as this? I mean, they're just so good. Like it wasn't like I was drinking cheap wine versus Hall. It was all like Hall's master. Yeah. You know, they're like sold out collection. I feel like they say, and don't ask me who they is, but they say that you literally can't
Like you can say whatever you want when you're tasting wine and like no one can tell you that you don't taste it, Craig, right? So if you're sitting there and you're like, I taste a hint of
you know, orange peel. No one can be like, no, you don't. And you're like, well, I do. So fuck off. So fresh tennis balls. Yes. And I know that there was that show on Netflix that was called some or something. And they said all sorts of things. It's like, and if they can say freshly cut tennis balls, then I can say that I taste black current fruit every single wine that I drink. And you can't tell me that I'm wet rock. It was neat though. I mean, I really loved it.
i mean i was like i'm basically on a honeymoon i was in this like the most romantic room drinking awesome wine and like awesome food and the shower pressure made the trip you know it was incredible the little things the little things a trip and i assume you called paige and you gave her like a little you know room tour i did give her a little room tour um
but you are in the middle of no, like you're, it's a very private place. Like, I guess people know that that have been to the region, but, um, I guess that we went a day early and they organized like an SUV for us and took us around to a bunch of vineyards and stuff. And that was a lot of fun. We had a, a bus or like a little coach bus, you know, private charter thing that took us to a couple of different places. But, um,
It was just, and Brian was down to clown, right? He was like, yeah, he was great. Him and his wife were a lot of fun. And, um, you know, what's in this one, what's in this one, what's in this one. But, um, but I will tell you this, Austin, it is fun to meet people don't know us and like to hear the story for the first time, you know, it's refreshing. I'll tell you what, when you were talking about Brian and Brian being like, uh,
you know, oh man, filming The Office was so great. I just got to hang out with my buds all the time. I'm like, man, wouldn't that be nice? You know, he's on like a scripted show. He doesn't have to fight with his coworkers and so on and so forth. I was like, that sounds really nice and good for him that he had such a, you know, cherishable memory from filming The Office. But it is cool. So for you guys,
were you saying man catherine was like wait well what's your deal or just been everywhere well yeah because someone was like craig's an off or brian and craig are both authors and i laughed and i was like i have a book but i didn't like write like i had a writer and she's like well what's your book about fiction
Right. And I was like, oh, well, I've been doing this show for like 12 years in South Carolina, but I was in law school at the time. And I went through this breakup in my mid-20s and I started to sew because I like to garden and cook and all this stuff. But I thought I was going to make clothes, but I didn't know how. So I made pillows and then I moved to the Bahamas. And then I, you know, I was took a lot of Adderall and then there was a shark attack. And then I was like, but I don't really think there was a story there. And my friend was like.
This is amazing. She was like, tell me more. And I was like, we just had our national launch and like 2300 Kroger stores where they're like store brand stuff now. And she was like, I love this little pillow maker, man. No, she just. Is that how you said it all to her? Cause if that's true, then like, I need to find out like a way to save my spiel in like two minutes. Cause that was elevator pitch. That was the first thing I said to her. And she was like,
She just, from not knowing anything about us, was able to be like, oh, that's very interesting. I've never met someone with that story and can't wait to hang today. It's like way to keep someone kind of hooked. And then they're like, wait, and then this, and then this, and then this, right? It's not like, oh, I'm on this TV show on Bravo. And then she's like, oh, well, tell me more.
Like you went through a whole lot of things that weren't just Bravo. So she good elevator pitch. Yeah. I'm like, sorry. It's kind of a, there's a lot there, but, um,
So it was, you know, seek out Harvest Inn, seek out Hall Wine, buy it online. That was the funny thing. The wines we liked most, it said sold out. And I was like, yeah, but like, do you still sell it? And they're like, it's sold out. And I was like, and then they were like, but you are drinking it. So ask yourself, is it really sold out? And I was like, wait a minute. How is this sold out if I'm drinking it right now?
they're like well that's a library wine which means we just make up the price for it now like depending on who's buying basically i think um craig do you want to tell us do you want to tell everyone about
About your launch today. I feel like this is it. It's a good, it's good. Um, yeah. If you live, uh, where Kroger owns the stores or where there's a Kroger on store, look for, uh, STS for HD design, because we are making, or they're different. Like are there franchise Kroger's then? Well, they own Fred Meyer. They own. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. So like we have like six Kroger's where I live and like four Harris Teeters, they should all be.
Harris Teeters won't be till Christmas, but the Kroger's will have us. And then so summer is our smaller launch, but we've got everything for backyard barbecue or a day at the beach or a day at the pool, which is new for us. And then this fall is when what's wrong when my baking launches. And so we have like something for the entire home.
I didn't know this. So this is privileged information for all the besties because you haven't posted this, have you? No, it's a secret. But I mean, I'll tell. It's not a secret anymore. No, it's okay. I mean, but I got to, we did the photo shoot the other day with everything. I guess it's completely fair. Like you could do like a what's wrong with my gardening? What's wrong with my cooking? What's wrong with my. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, it's the goal is to be in everyone's home in one way, right?
or another. And it's funny because like the process is so much longer than people realize. Like someone was like, I know your tomatoes didn't grow that fast because the video I posted today was shot last year.
i mean like and like the products right right craig i actually thought about that too i was like wait a minute i i just saw this and like you just planted your tomatoes and then in your video today they were like lush and completely grown i was like what the hell did i miss you're like what ai is craig using so like the stuff that you see us launch next year we've already made and shot like it's really
So congratulations. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. And you'll see what's neat as you'll like see Trapop and SDS in the same store now. That's really cool, actually. Yeah. So send me your picture. If you tag me in your pictures, I want to see it because obviously I can't be in...
2000 places at once. So I want to see how it's set up and well, let's take a quick break. Yeah. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy and help improve muscle strength and endurance.
I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is a definite risk when I work out or am active, but might appear does more than just help with my muscle health.
it can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.
Mitochondria, our cell's power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.
Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.
Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillows and beer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillows and beer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslog administration. These products are not invented to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. The Mazda CX-50. We're not supposed to be out here. Built for the outdoors.
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it's funny like today i got all these messages like the sticker's still on the bottom of the cup and i'm like well yeah it's brand new fucking like right that's so funny that you say that but like i noticed it too but obviously in my head it was like exactly what you just said it was like well that's because it's a brand new cup out of the box so now i'm gonna take i noticed it but obviously i was like well you know i'm not gonna say anything but of course
People mentioned it. It was a big one. I was a big distract. Really? That was a big distractor. Cause I noticed it, but, uh, clearly it was like, well, I'm not going to say shit because it's like a brand new cup. Oh, the things people notice. That's so funny. Yeah, it was, um, I mean that, and, uh, people are like, Oh, but lots to come there. So we're really excited about it. Grab a Cousy for your drop off at the store.
Do you remember back in COVID when I had to buy other cans and then I wrapped them and you could see the other can at the top? And so people were peeling off my wraps and they're like, what gives Austin? You know, you wrapped like a different beer. Like, am I drinking trop up or something else? And I was like,
guys, it's COVID. I'm just trying to survive. Like I had to buy someone else's cans and then wrap them with the wrap, you know, that I did and then put the liquid in it. Like it is Trap Hop, but yes, it is someone else's can. And that whole thing was really, you know, just like a facepalm
time in my life, you know, just like what you're saying. You're like, and so this new collections here and it's March 25% down, but no one knows that that's the process. And so I'm getting tagged in it. You're like, well, and also like, everyone's just trying to figure shit out. You know, there's so many people ready to point something out and you're like, guys,
just for other people which they probably know like everyone's trying to figure life out like no one has it completely figured out and that's okay and man do you can you tell how ups like miserable someone is um you know from being a hater online it's just sad uh but south park takes care of all of that for us so i feel like every person on planet earth should be forced
If you are on social media in some way, shape, or form, everyone on planet Earth should be forced to watch that episode on South Park. Yeah. It is... Yeah, that's actually funny. But that was well said in the first part of it. We'll be...
you know, all of it. But the first part of it was a nice message of everyone's trying to figure it out. Yeah. Like during COVID you ran out of cans, but you fixed the problem. Like I focus on make sure that liquid was out there for people to purchase. And yeah, I was getting tagged left and right. What's this other brewery that I see underneath? I'm like, well,
when i become wiser and i will own a kind of older cans that's what happened i bust in or or that brewery you know they needed help as well because they were like we have these extra cans we need people to to buy them and people like me were like more than willing to to buy them you should have got an intern or something awesome just to cut off all the old labels
No, no, no, no, no, no. It was a printed, right? So, so, so like buying like a six pack, like a Bud Light. Yeah. Yes. Like, like that Waterloo. Like our friends at Waterloo. Like our friends at Waterloo. Yes. And then what, and then I had like a wrap, you know, Nick, like around it. So then people could see the Waterloo can underneath and were like, what? This isn't Waterloo. And I was like, yeah, no shit. It's not Waterloo. Yeah.
I like all your topics, Nick. A few of them make me laugh. The woman in Nebraska being charged with felony. I don't know about you guys, but I used that gas card that I got. I used that card so much that I thought that I was basically this woman in Nebraska that is being charged with felony theft because she figured that if you double swiped your rewards card that there was a glitch and it gave you free gas. And allegedly she got almost $28,000.
dollars in free gas and I was beginning to think that my little two uh 250 dollar card that we got kind of like that and I was like oh my God it just keeps on giving me gas and it keeps on giving me gas and it keeps on giving me gas and then uh it it it finally just went and it cut me okay Craig an attorney that's kind of like put this one in here what is your like would you be able to defend someone like her from going to jail I can defend anyone
Well, I mean, like, as in, like, I always, I don't defend anything. I get it. No, I'm saying me personally. I think rules are stupid unless I think they're not stupid. Let's see. A woman always charge you for us. And it's not her fault. It is whoever wrote the coding for the program. I don't think that's a stretch at all. I mean, that's true. How the hell could you charge this woman for?
Just because she was like, oh, well, maybe it didn't read the first time. Let me do it again. Well, no. If you have something that you gave her that she acquired legally, which is that card, gives her free gas. I don't think she has a duty to report to anyone that the system's malfunctioning. I think you have an ethical issue, but I don't think you have a legal issue. Yeah.
But it's so funny, though, how often that's used to arrest people, though. Ethically, they can say, well, she knew what she was doing and she stole it. But no, I mean, we don't know that she stole it. She didn't do anything. She legally did everything. Like, she didn't do anything illegal to acquire it. She swiped a gas card and that tank turned on automatically. Like, she didn't go in the back and, like, flip some switch. Yeah, dude, she didn't, you know, go up in there.
put a gun like in someone's face right turn on the pump like the card was working and she didn't make the card like she didn't go and like hack the card they up like they have to have proper monitoring systems in and then if they were like don't use that card anymore or something like that if she continued to do it but
They, I think thousand dollars in gas is so much effing gas by the way. But now look, I'll play devil's advocate. I know it is. I'm sure you guys have some X. If someone used a gift card at selling down South over and over and over and over, cause they just got like a lucky like code in the system. Yeah. I mean, I would be bummed, but I also like we have.
checks in place that all three of us, me, Amanda and Jerry would see that someone spent over a thousand dollars even once on our phones and look into it. And then if we saw their name pop up again, like we would be automatically notified. So I think it's also a corporation just got too fricking big and they got lazy. And you know what? I hate lazy. Yeah.
Thanks for joining us on today's episode of Pillows and Beer. But, I mean, honestly, that's a decent little... Yeah, you can take us out. Or would you guys, you have to say, would you have continued to swipe the free gas card and just be nervous all the time? Oh, I'd have done it.
In a heartbeat. If I figured out that's what it was. 100%. Dude, if the card that I had kept on giving me gas, I wouldn't be like, well, I'm over the 250 limit. Well, okay. So that's a little different though, because I think a gift card is different than a, like a, like a, what do you call it? A royalty card. Well, look, man, the answer is yes. The answer is I would have kept it. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yes. I'd have fucking, if I figured out that if all I have to do is swipe it twice and give me free gas and be like, well, they're morons.
And that's what I'd have done. Yeah. Fuck that. I'm not buying those machines that actually like scramble gas to give you a free it's they handed to me. It's their fault. Like Craig said, it's how do you not realize that this lady's bought 28,000 in free gas? You think at some point, maybe after a thousand dollars, it'd come up and go, where's this gas going? So, um, and with that being said, thank you for joining us this week, besties. We just wanted to pop in and have a fun little catch up.
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