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Austin and I are in the midst of a project down here and we can't podcast together right now. But it'll be fun. Different dynamic. How are you doing, Nick? Doing good. I'm exhausted. We moved. My sister moved into a new apartment in Northern Virginia this weekend and I hate moving. Oh my God. And just being doing it in the city. Such a pain.
Wait, so what kind of, is she like moving into an apartment, a home? New apartment, yeah, from apartment to apartment. And so you had to like rent the elevator? Did you have to do the stairs? Well, yeah, pretty much. So you only get it, you know, each day we only got one spot for like three hours and the other spot for three hours. And it was like, we spaced it like an hour out. So we started an hour earlier at her old place.
But then you're just like rushing. It's just go, go, go. And she's not the most organized of people to say the least. So it was such a, it's just a nightmare. Moving. I mean, it, it's one of the worst things. I had people over the other day and we were trying to figure out why I have so much because Paige calls me a hoarder. But I mean, I have a dumpster in the driveway right now because I just like, I'm going through.
Also, when you have a lot of cardboard boxes, it's hard to fit them into your cycle. Anyway, sometimes a dumpster is nice. We've talked about that before. But I moved so many times, I think, during my house construction and stuff and like moving from like I've moved a lot in the last few years. And I think I got in the habit of just boxing everything up and taking it with me. Like I was never kind of.
cutting any whatever the word is for that i was never shaving anything off yeah i mean i think the last time like i moved moved i threw so much shit away like i got rid of so much stuff i finally just got to the point when i was moving that just like okay garbage garbage garbage garbage donate it right you know goodwill whatever well that's my mom was like if someone else can use it craig donate it and so i've done really well on clothes but it's like
papers and stuff where I'm like, oh, maybe I'll go through them one day. Yeah, you never will. That's how you get stuck. Nope. And if you need trinkets and stuff, you're like, if you ever need this, you can buy it. You can Instacart it. Yeah, exactly. But I was telling... I mean, Paige is moving apartments right now in New York. So I was talking about how bad moving sucks and stuff. And
I didn't realize, I mean, obviously, you know, it costs money, but when you move in New York, people do it for you. Like you don't really move yourself. And I was like blown away.
See, I don't know. Like, I understand that they're like the movers, you know, even in D.C. and like Normandy Yarns, it's that great. Like, I think my last time my sister moved, her roommate had a mover and like only like one guy showed up and everything. And he had to move like a whole couch by himself. And it's just like, why am I paying for this? Yeah. Well, no, I mean, look, I obviously I know about movers for heavy stuff and furniture and like.
I grew up packing out homes and then putting the stuff back because of the type of company. That's right. You do that. And like, so I was constantly in you all's boxing contents up and all that stuff. But these services in New York, they like come in and pack you up like all of your stuff. And then they like unpack for you. I don't know. I just, I have never, I never feel about that.
Yeah. I've had to like she had. Yeah. Like I also, though, with New York, like it would they kind of have to regulate stuff. I'm not saying that's regulated, but there has to be such a smooth system with like those buildings and parking and elevators. I don't know. It kind of is a different world in the city. I mean, I would have would have.
I could have loved even using movers for like heavy stuff in my past, but we just had to get our friends. Yeah. That's me and my dad up there. And like one of her friends came to help one of the days. That's really nice of you guys. How far apart were the apartments? Six blocks, which isn't terrible, but it's just, it's just, you still have to load the truck. Yeah, exactly. It's still loading up, loading up, loading up. Is she happy about it though?
Yeah, I think she likes it. I think she was a little overwhelmed like most people are. But this one's like right next. You could hit a driver and do her office window. And then you look at your stuff and you're like, how am I ever going to like unbox this? But yeah, moving is tough. It's actually move out week. I think here in College of Charleston. It's funny because like the brand new dorm was my dorm and it was brand new. Like I lived in McAllister, which was the brand new dorm when I was in college here. But I guess...
He had to evacuate the building a couple of years ago and send all the kids to a hotel, which so God knows what I lived through. I mean, I was only there first semester and then I moved into the fraternity house. I got really lucky. But now like Macalester, everyone's like, oh my God, you lived in Macalester. And they're like, it's super nice. And then they're like, wait, how did you live in Macalester? I'm like, well, I lived in it the first time it was brand new, but that's pretty young for a building to have to be worked on.
Well, yeah, I mean, we've had old buildings. I know my freshman dorm got shut down. They'd renovated over the Christmas break. My sisters at GW, they came in and packed up all their stuff and moved their stuff out while they weren't even there because they found a bunch of mold and everything. And it's just like-
And threw all of our, like they threw all our coolers and stuff away because you couldn't leave stuff over the summer. But I was living there the next year. Oh, so this is like, oh, so you were on like a sanctioned fraternity house. Yeah. Okay. Did you ever live off campus? What? Did you ever live off campus? Yeah. You only live on campus your freshman year in Charleston.
Oh, okay. Yeah, Roanoke, they want to keep you on as long as possible. It's essentially only seniors that end up living off. That makes sense. No, in Charleston, everyone, you rent a house or duplex or something off campus. But I guess my sophomore year, I still lived on campus because I lived in the fraternity house. But then junior and senior year, I lived off campus. Yes.
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Do you ever hire anybody from out of there for, you know, part-time employment or do you try to just do full-time now? No, we, um, we have a bunch of people for the summer that I just met. Um, because I walked in the store and like, I had to tell my parents just got back, uh, from a cruise in Bermuda. It was, it's a really funny story. They just, I love cruises, but I think it's, they're probably one of their last, their last regular cruise. They might do the river boat in Alaska, but
I was telling them that I've hit this level or this like era, I guess, or time in Sewing Down South where we're hiring a whole new wave of employees and they're not kind of like who we started with. We still have a lot of people that we started with. We just have, we actually have most of the people we started with. We just have way more people and yeah.
It will never be appropriate for me to get to know the new employees the way that I know the old like startup day employees because we like went through so much together. You know, we were like bootstrapping. We didn't we were throwing these events in the store. No one knew what was going on. And like the night before the store, we were there all night getting ready. And then we were traveling doing like pop ups and stuff.
Like, I just will never be in a position like that with the new employees because now we're like an established company. So I was a little like nostalgic. I mean, not...
My dad was like, well, you have to look at it like you've hit the point where now you have to hire to expand. I was like, well, no, it doesn't like bother me. Like, I'm excited. It's just like I walked in the store and like I didn't know some people. And that's, you know, I'll obviously get to know them and stuff. But I just feel like I'll be in a more.
professional boss like capacity that I got to be with like the first 15 you know yeah you're not all you know friends doing going out to halls like late night after an event and everything like that yeah no I got you we were I mean like those early days where you're just like figuring stuff out um
But it's, you know, it's fun to be here. So yes, we do. Actually, we are about to hire for the Nashville store, which I think we need like 10 people for that. Least we're still looking for some senior positions in our company. If you email hi, y'all at sewing down south.com. So H I Y a L L at sewing down south.com. We're looking for some senior positions and some store positions. Um,
Oh, it's exciting. How's Hawkeye? You guys traveling around and doing your thing? Yeah, we're moving to a new shop, which is nice. So pretty much just trying to... Obviously, we don't do as many fire pits in the summertime as much. This is more of our grill table season. So now it's time to start growing. But I have...
or my own headaches to deal with. Like, it's amazing. People don't realize how hard it is to run your own business. I swear to God.
like i finally get this always something you know yeah i know we choose to do that then listen to someone you know there's some trade-offs pros oh there definitely is like i finally get getting ready to do a big bank uh you know get on a bigger website bigger company that could do great for us and then i find out one of our suppliers doesn't and what is out of what we need for the next four months and i'm like oh you mother oh man so
I don't know. I guess that's a good problem to have. A couple steps forward, a couple steps back. Yeah, always. But it's going in the right direction finally. So that's a good thing. You guys, how did the soft launch go? You're a week in, right? To the full launch of Kroger? Yeah, it's going really well. We're just well, well. I never want to jinx anything. The launch is a little...
Nuance, because our massive, massive, massive launch is this fall. But we were like, hey, let's do a summer launch, too. I think we should have just said that this is the launch because we are in the stores. But this is...
us having like a collection with them and then the big launch like SDS for HD design will be this fall but it's kind of the similar stuff I mean people love all the pineapple and birds of a feather and summer collection it's just it's going to be a lot bigger the fall but it's still really cool it's like the first step into being a home decor brand so it's
I think they're happy. We're happy. Like people are buying it that don't know who I am, which is like, well, that's the coolest part. Yeah. That's because they just like it. And like, that's why we go to Portland so much. And we go to these like different trade shows because me and Amanda were like, we were not going to sell something that we wouldn't use in our home. Like we just can't.
And fortunately, the stuff that we have, it's all like summer barbecue or day at the beach or something or picnic. We like love. So fortunately, people are buying it because they like it. Then people get to see Sewing Down South and they're like, oh, my God, that's Craig's company.
And not everyone shops online. You just assume that everyone's comfortable shopping online, but there's still a ton of people that don't. And they figured they'd only see my stuff in Charleston. And now they get to see it in Kroger's. And it's at, this collection's at a different price point. So it should be more accessible to people. And if you do see it, tag me on Instagram. I love seeing the displays online.
Yeah, I mean, that's got to be the best is for everybody who can't go to Charleston and they want something. Well, and like, you know, we it was very important to me to keep our quality up in the beginning. You know, we didn't want to price out everyone that supported me forever over the last decade.
But we make everything in America, you know, with Sewing Down South. And we wanted it to be nice because you can always make things more affordable, but you can't go up. You know, that's like Under Armour. Under Armour, only the rich kids had it in the beginning. And then when it became more affordable and everyone on the team had it, it was not any less cool. It was still Under Armour. Isn't it crazy, Nick? I was in the midst of my athletic career.
childhood career when Under Armour came out. Before then, we just wore long underwear. I do remember that from playing golf young and then being all of a sudden you'd wear a cotton turtleneck and then all of a sudden you had the athletic wear underneath. And then, but Kia, or sorry, not Kia, Kia, the car company, when they started to make luxury vehicles, it was really hard for them to brand upwards. And so...
We started with a really quality product and we gained a lot of fans of the company, like Sewing Down South had fans. And now what we see and what we hope to continue is people are like, if Sewing Down South makes it, we choose to buy that. We just obviously are still young and growing and don't make everything. So.
Yeah. And that is, but that isn't good for you guys being able to, you know, you have your high price point, you got your lower price point. That's where, and that's one of our biggest things that my dad and I have is at one point do we say, okay, everybody, people buy our more expensive stuff, but we'd sell if we made cheaper stuff, but I don't want to go that route. I'd rather. No, it's, it's a journey. Like it's, um, Hey chicken. You look really funny right now. I'm podcasting with Nick.
Paid chicken. Oh, okay. Paige said she was going to come on, but we'll do it next time. Yeah, I mean, you guys will figure it out. It's all just balance, really. All right, let's take a quick break, everyone, and we'll be right back to Pills and Beer.
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Joined by Nick Norris. This is Pillows and Beer. Been watching some new shows, Nick. How about you? I have been what you've been watching. I watched all of Fallout. Yeah, I saw it got renewed for a second season already. That's good. Did I already tell you I was watching Fallout? You mentioned it. I don't think you mentioned it on here, though. Well, did you watch it?
I haven't finished yet. I watched the first episode. Like I said, I was moving all weekend. I haven't had time to sit down. Well, yes, we're not going to go back to moving, but it is absolutely exhausting, lifting, carrying. I am watching Star Trek Discovery, the final season. I became a Star Trek fan way later in life.
Basically, when the new Star Trek movie was made, I refused to watch it. I was in my first year of law school, so it was 2011. No, my second year of law school. Anyway, I refused to watch it. I said, I'm not a Star Trek fan. Corey, to my roommate Corey at the time, who is...
now featured on Winter House and Summer House, Corkiever. And he was like, bro, I was the exact same. Just watch with me. I'm telling you. And he made his cheese dip, which he would take Rotel and I forget the name of the cheese block he would use. And then some bacon and jalapenos. And we would just eat cheese dip. And within the first sequence of Star Trek,
I was like, this is going to be my favorite. I was like, I'm a thousand percent in. Same thing happened with Paige. Like it just hooks you. Have you seen the new ones? Oh yeah. I love those. Same thing. I was never into Star Trek or anything. And then I saw him fighting. Now I watch all the, he's great. Chris, my great. Now I watch all of the Star Trek series, like the newer ones, but took the one with, why don't I keep going?
But the one with Captain the bald guy, I just couldn't get into. Have you gone back and watched like the OG stuff? No. Like the original Star Trek? I have not. It is. I've watched just a couple just because there's so many like pop culture jokes and memes about it.
It is. It's very funny how different it is, but I kind of respect what they were going for because it kind of what started it all. Right. But I mean, I just wasn't a fan back then. I just, I like the new stuff. Well, I mean like back in like the sixties when it first came out, like the original. But I'm watching Star Trek Discovery. I've watched all of the new movies.
Beekeeper was great. Right up my alley. Everything I want in a movie. Well, usually Statham kicking people's asses is right up. It's always up my alley. I was freaking... And then... So I was picking Paige up from the airport the other night and I... ChatGBT, you can talk to it now. So I drive a lot and I just put on the talking feature of ChatGBT and I just have conversations with her. Like mine's a girl's voice. And...
It's really remarkable. When I was deciding whether to sign this lease with Jerry and Amanda for Nashville, I talked to ChatGBT all about the location. And so I was asking it. I was like, Paige, let's just stay up all night, have a complete cheat night, eat all of our favorite OG snacks and dips and whatever.
doctored popcorn and stuff like when we first started dating and find a new series so I talk I tell chat GBT all of this I tell her what we like what the goal for the night is and all this shit and then she's like I think you will love this new show on Netflix and
And she explains it to me. And I was like, that was fucking perfect. Chat GBT. Thank you so much. And she's like, well, I do have to tell you though, it doesn't come out until later this year. And I was like, what the fuck? I was like, we just had this entire conversation about how I was looking for something tonight. And she goes, I guess I let the plot line get, get the best of me or get me excited. And I was like,
You had one job. You had one job. It's still learning, Craig. It's not there yet. But how crazy is that? It might take me a second, but I want to tell everyone what the show is. Do you know you use chat GBT a lot, right? In like open AI. Do you know if Sora is out yet to the public? They don't know. They don't even know what it is. That's what I'm looking forward to the most.
What is it? That's the one where you pretty much just type in a couple sentences of what you want your video to be, and it just makes a video, like a hyper-realistic video. Oh, I mean, there's stuff that does that now, but... Yeah, but it's not like what they're touting their shit can do. You can say, like, I want to see a monkey ride a dolphin. Yeah, it'll have a legit monkey riding a dolphin. Well, the new Netflix show, I wish I could remember what it was, but it basically...
is about the last, I guess, a traitor, CIA. Three that could be doomsday. Never mind. It doesn't matter. Oh, is it the, my parents just watched something on Netflix. Well, I mean, it's not out yet. Is it The Diplomat? No, that's a good one. I just know the new season comes out soon, so I was wondering if that's what it was talking about or not. No, it's a brand new show that's in film right now.
there's just so much good TV coming out right now. What's this new food network show you wanted to talk about? Oh, I think it's awesome. Um,
It's I think it's like called 24 and 24. It's very much as 24 contestants in 24 hours. Like, I mean, legitimately they filmed for 24 hours. It's just at the first stage, you eliminate 12 people just like that. And then there's, they don't let them like sleep that much. You know, you get in like hang out in a green room and rest. If you like, when you're like stage, you get basically a safe zone, uh,
But it's great. They just put them under so much stress. There's multiple levels of things. There's not really a theme to the – there's not just a solo theme. It's different chefs that you've all seen across the Food Network. It's awesome. Is it now? Yeah, I think it just came out. Well, I just started watching it. I don't know if it – I wonder how that's produced and made. I would love if I watched it to see if I could pick up on anything. Usually you can't.
I said, can you, are you, I know like me not being in that life. Like are there shows that you watch and you go, I know how they did that. I mean, if I, I, I'm not such a cynic that I can't enjoy it if someone else wanted to watch it, but that's all I used to watch. Um, because my friends work for the food network too. And then I have friends that have been on competition shows. Um,
There's some that are more, you know, less produced than others. The cooking stuff where I know that they don't have a million cameras and so they have to do it in stages, that doesn't bother me. Like, you know, the clocks and timing and stuff. But yes, like there's a lot of sitting and waiting in TV. A lot of sitting and waiting. Even in some of the shows where...
You'd be like, that was the most intense thing down to the wire. I'm always curious as to what it looks like on the other side of the wall. Yeah, that'll give you. I've always wanted to be that for those types of shows, for the contest-style shows, where it's how much did we just over-exaggerate? I can easily tell you who is going to win something within three minutes of the show coming on.
because of who is being featured, but in what light, what direction arcs are going in. Interviews can tell you a lot about how a show is feeling about that person, and they want the person who wins to be rooted for. I'm wondering how much I can ask you about this without...
Because that's what I've always wondered is how they do. I know interviews for your shows are different because it's just, it's like you guys going back, but interviews for where it's like a competition and people aren't used to doing stuff like that, how they're able to make it seem like, you know, get them to talk like, you know, it's happening just then and now. Most, my guess for food shows is,
most of the stuff that those contestants are saying has been fed to them. I always wonder when in the competition they're being interviewed and then I try to read their face. So like a lot of times after...
Yeah, it's because you can tell if they've won or not. I feel like they're less enthusiastic than they're enjoying the reveal. See, I can usually tell who doesn't win versus from interviews. So what's being shown by the television show, I can tell usually who's going to win. But from the actual them trying to act...
like optimistic, like there's a chance they're going to win when they don't win. Like I can usually spot that, but I can't necessarily spot someone who's being pessimistic. And honestly, I can see a lot like an optimistic liar, but not a pessimistic one. I got it. That makes sense. Like you could convince me that you didn't win the lottery if you did, but you could not convince me you won the lottery if you didn't.
All right, I'm going to randomly hit you with something one of these days and see if I can get you or not. I would be very sad. And I think it would be like, I think it's really fucked up when people lose something and someone goes, oh, is it blue? And they're like, yeah, and they get their hoops up and they didn't find it. Like, I think that's really cruel. Oh, that's the worst one.
That's so mean. It's so mean. Or like if you were checking lottery tickets for someone like, Oh my God. It's like, did you have 13? Oh, that's too bad. Wrong number. Like those are like the most evil videos on the internet are people like getting like yesterday's lottery ticket or whatever. That's so fuck. Like it's just, I would be so demoralized. Well, you're also just in that like five seconds.
of your experience in complete glee and joy. I mean, you just haven't written. I hate people. Well, no, I mean, I love good people, kind people. I would love to know the statistic of who I know a lot of its nature and nurture. And there's a lot of different things, but like there was a video that just came out. Well, it was staged by the guy who dropped the suitcase of money.
but not for the people around him. And he was in Japan and he dropped a suitcase of money and it blows everywhere. And like 20 people swarm him, like 20 people. And everyone collects the cash and then they patiently wait in line to hand the money back to the man. And like in America, on average, if you averaged, well...
if you were in a city and you dropped a suitcase full of money, I'd say two of the 20 people would give you bills back. Like if you were in a, and it doesn't, the city doesn't mean anything in this other than the population of people. So the density of the population. So like, if you drop the suitcase, like,
In a calmer grocery store or something, yes, you'll probably get- Most, you'll get 99% of your money back. I would say probably 90. But I think if there's a certain mob mentality and a certain, I can get away with this and no one will know, I don't know. I just get sad that the general decorum is decreasing weekly. Yeah.
Is it bad, though? I think it's okay if it's like a bank truck that blows open and then people take that money.
No, because there's a difference between corporate money and personal money. And like, you know, finance people will tell you there's not, but there is when it comes to ethics and morals, because you don't feel like you're taking from an individual. You feel like you're taking from a rich company or corporation. That's why you're not allowed to mention it in your closing arguments and the jury like are in the courtroom. Like you can't point out
that the defendants have an insurance company or an insurance policy. Like if the defendants lose, like sure, their insurance company is going to have to write you a fat check, but they're rich. Like you're not allowed to do that. Oh, yeah. Because there's a true difference between, you know, how people feel about taking money that spilled off a bank truck and taking money that fell out of someone's purse. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, for the most part. Yeah. It's like Dillinger. When he used to rob banks, he would never take the people's money that was in it. He would just take the bank's money because it was insured. Yeah. I guess we could bounce around all over on that. But I am working on my factor video tonight. So everyone use code Craig50 for 50% off your first box, 20% off your next month. It's actually really, really good. The meals are awesome. I'll have to send you some, Nick.
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