EP.60 - JOHN'S TRUE GHOST STORIES, JONESTOWN MASSACRE, & METAVERSE THEORY
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What? Shout out to John. John's on the Discord. People that's seen Dino's live show, you know about him. He's always in the Jumper's Discord. Anyways, we were just talking about the Jonestown Massacre. Is it Jonestown? Jonestown. Jonestown, yeah. And Jim Jones, the cult leader. The big cult leader.

so john was telling me some shit like i never heard about him but apparently like he knows some stuff about there because his dad was there yeah so it's it's a more bigger thing but the whole like idea behind it is jim jones he was originally he's a cult leader is basically where he was um and he before all of it he was actually like heavy into christianity like he was a follower of god he believed in the teachings and after he developed his own like

kind of thought of thinking and he had followers behind it. Wait, was it connected to Christianity and Catholicism? It was. Yeah. So it was. So it was like his own take on it. His own take on it. Yeah. So it was kind of related to like the Pentecost. Yeah. He took it a different road and he had followers that followed him down this road. For the people that don't know, the Jonestown Massacre, I think is like the largest massacre

Or the biggest Massacre In human history Right It's one of the It's one of the more Bigger ones Mass suicide Mass suicide In human history I'm pretty sure Yeah like one guy Managed to like Took like Like literally thousands Hundreds of people To just kill themselves That's how bad it was Yeah and What they did I'm pretty sure he He told him to drink Like a Kool-Aid

Yeah. Like a poison, like a poison. Yeah. Yeah. I literally just told him to just do that. And then they just all off themselves. It was pretty messed up. That's crazy. Yeah. It was pretty bad. So what he did was this was in America first. Yeah. And he got a little bit of a pressure in America from his teachings because they were a bit too extreme. So he decided to build a temple. So he decided to come to Guyana, which is where I'm from. Yeah. Uh,

And he built it in Guyana in one of the more remote regions of Guyana. And he named his temple, like this temple community, he named it Jonestown. Yeah. So that's his own place now. That's his own place. It's like his own compound and shit. Exactly. So like little Italy or like little Jamaica or something like that. Yeah. It had his own name and its own like history behind it. Word. Yeah. So he made like this whole like, he made this whole society, like this whole hidden society. So that's his whole like own little country you just made. Yeah, exactly. His whole little, like his little, his man didn't hook up his...

That one His own little organization So It's actually really bad Because He got people to believe him To the point where They abandoned their lives in America They sold their houses And they straight up Just came down to Ghana Oh shit So he took Americans there Yeah he took Americans there Yeah So he took his Teachings and people From America Because they didn't really like him there And he was like Screw it I'm just gonna come back to Ghana Where I can Do my teachings in peace Without any interruptions Oh

I thought it was just like Guyanese or like the people in Guyana. No, no, no, no. It was Americans. Damn. No, that's crazier. That's crazier. So he convinced the people there to be like, come with me, travel with me all the way over there. And they abandoned their lives. They sold all their houses. They literally quit their jobs just to come and live with him. Like people like really believed in his message. That's wild.

yeah so literally he he believed in something it was like a revolutionary suicide so he believed everyone killed themselves like something would happen right and he did it like he literally i couldn't i couldn't even wait did he die too i really yeah he he died as well like he really believed in his message he died with the people like he managed everyone to kill themselves damn so so he really thought like this is this is his this was the way yeah that's like he's a prophet type of thing yeah this is the way type of thing show me the way this is the

Yeah, okay. So what did your dad hear about it then like whenever there's any big event? Yeah

You hear about it in the country. So, like, I'll give an example. Like, if there's, like, a big event that happens in a country, like, someone dies or something, everyone hear about it. Because Guyana is a small country. It's a very small country. It's got, like, what, a little over half a million people or something like that. So, it's not that big in the slightest. Like, 9-11 type of thing. That's basically what it was. Like, you were shocked. It's crazy. This never happens, let alone in Guyana, where nothing, like, no one even knows about Guyana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people might just be hearing about the country Guyana right now. Mm-hmm.

But yeah, it was like really just... Honestly, I can't even believe it. It's just crazy. Yo, you know what's crazy? You know Joaquin Phoenix? The guy that played Joker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The actor, right? Yeah. So he actually grew up in a cult. Not a lot of people know that. What? So Joaquin and River Phoenix. River Phoenix, I think he was in Indiana Jones. He was in...

What's that? Stand By Me? I don't know if you ever watched that movie. I think I've heard about it, yeah. Yeah, but anyways, so these two child actors, which became like very famous actors later on in life. Well, River Phoenix actually passed away. But anyways, they were actually part of a cult, bro. So he grew up in a cult and he grew up in a cult where they did some questionable things. Some suspicious stuff. Questionable things with children, fam. Whoa, whoa.

Yeah. Children. No, I don't, okay. I don't want to get into it because it's kind of gruesome, but like it's some next door, but that's, what's crazy is you see people that like everyday people. Yeah. And you don't know what they're about or you don't know what they've been through or like, who knows? They could have been part of that club. Who knows? They could have been like a free mace. They could be part of,

Illuminati, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? No, that's true. That's true. You don't know, like, really who you're walking by. You could be walking by a killer. You could be walking by, like, someone who just knows something. You know what I mean? Like, it's so unpredictable. Like, when you meet people and stuff, you learn so much about them. It's like, it's just, it's crazy, man. There's a lot of things you learn from people. Have you ever came across somebody while you were living in Guyana that was, like, a questionable or, like, sketchy person? Yeah.

There's a lot of questionable people, bro. There's so much questionable people you meet in Guyana. It's a culture-heavy country in terms of religious beliefs and paranormal stuff, man. It's so heavy in paranormal stuff.

Do they have their own kind of witchcraft there too? Because I know in the Philippines and a lot of places in Africa, they had their own voodoo, whether it be witchcraft, certain kind of spiritual things they do. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of spiritual stuff here. We're in Ghana. It's like witchcraft and black magic. Oh, yeah. Like black magic. Yeah. Most of that stuff, though...

It created like I would say creatures Like people believed In a lot of creatures Oh they had their own mythology Yeah like folklore I think that's what it's called Yeah yeah yeah Heavy Everyone knew like The same creatures Word Okay what's one of them What's one of them Alright I'll tell you The most famous Like the most infamous Creature in Guyana What is it It's called the Baku

Oh, shit. The Baku. That's scary. The Baku. Like, bro, when you were a kid and you heard someone say, yo, if you don't behave, the Baku's coming, you're clenched up. You're on your own. You're like, I better not mess up here. So the Baku was basically this, like, small creature. And it was, like, small in here. It was almost like a leprechaun. Yeah. Right? So what it did was...

It was small and it was scary looking. So it had red eyes and rabbit ears, right? Like, there's just like, there's this beast. There's this whole beast out here. Yeah. And what it was used for, it was mostly, looking back on it, it was probably a scare tactic for kids where if you don't do so-and-so, the baku is going to come for you. Oh, so it's like a, it's like a, you better behave type of thing. Yeah, you better behave or I'm going to call my boy baku and I'll pull up here. So next up.

But yeah, basically how it worked was at nighttime, it especially took liking to kids. Okay. Pause. But yeah.

In the night time He used to come at night time Into the house Break into houses And raid your fridge Oh shit It loved expired milk And bananas Why? I don't know That's so specific bro That's mad specific It's mad specific But that's the two things I remember being told about And it had really long fangs I'm just remembering details Off the top of my head But it had really long fangs And it had really long fangs

And it could smell When a kid was being naughty And if you weren't being naughty It would straight up just like Gobble you whole Like it would go into your room And just Like munch on you That's similar to what What the Filipinos have Is the muumuu But

The Moomoo though Is just like It's like an unknown creature Like it's just something scary Like there's no physical features That we know about it It's just like A ghost You know what I mean Like it's gonna get you It's gonna get you So it's just It's like a general creature You get me You better behave Or the Moomoo's gonna get you You know what I mean He's pulling up high Yeah yeah That's what I mean

That's what it's like. Yeah, no, there's bear. There's another one. This one's actually a bit more serious. This one's called Ol Haigu. What's that? Ol Haigu. So this one, so there's a term we have in Ghana. This is also another term that I'm not sure if many people heard about. The term is called Jambi.

I think I heard that. I swear I heard that before. It's probably used in the Caribbean, but the term is called Jambi. Everyone knows about it in Ghana and probably in the Caribbean. It just means ghost. Just ghost. Yeah, it's just ghost and paranormal stuff. It's just a Jambi. That entity is a Jambi, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this one was a Jambi. It's called Ohaygu. And it's basically a spirit. It takes many forms, but the idea behind it, it's very similar to the Baku where it comes into the houses, but it's specifically made to punish people.

Oh shit. Yeah. So what it does is it takes the form. People say it takes the form of like a fireball. Yeah. So like if you're out at nighttime, it comes out at nighttime. If you're out at nighttime, you see a fireball just floating around. It's probably all high goon. You need to, you need to dip family. The area is not safe. You need to leave here immediately. Yeah. So what happens is it,

comes into your house typically through your keyhole. Your keyhole? Yeah, the keyhole. I don't know why, but you could just break a window and hop on in the house, but it has to come through the keyhole. So it's places that you can't cover up that shows like it's inviting for them to come in, right? So they would slip it on through the keyhole. So it mostly punished...

Well, it didn't punish. It took away kids. It used to kidnap kids and it used to harm them. Yeah. So a way that families used to combat it, the most popular way I guess would have heard is it's such a tedious thing. They used to take these whole bag of rice and pour it on the front door. Wait, why? For what? So what they used to do was they believed in order for the old haigu to enter your house, they have to individually count all grains of rice.

And then after, they used to enter your house. So they're hoping that buys the time. Oh, it makes them not want to do it because they have to count all that shit. They have to count all the rest. And if it hits morning, they got to leave. It's morning time. It's not night time. Yeah, why is it that in every single spiritual event or like monsters, every single creature, they only show up at nighttime?

Why is that? Why is that? It's like a spooky thing. I don't even know. It's like their thing, bro. Their trademark, their TM. Like they don't show up during the day. Like they're not allowed to show up. Like why? Why can't they just pull up during the day? They move in the dark, fam. They move in the dark. Anything too. Like you're never scared. I'm only scared when it's dark or whenever it's nighttime.

like never has there been a time where like during the day and i think about a ghost like oh shit i'm gonna get attacked by a ghost i mean yeah because it's light out what do you think that is why why do you think that is well i think like even even when we were kids like the night time when you're in a dark room yeah like you don't feel safe like if i put any man in a dark room there they don't they don't feel like it's like the unknown yeah the unknown yeah i don't know what's going on around us right anything could be going on around us a train of ghosts could be like spinning around

behind yeah yo i think that's what scares me the most is like when you can't see anything and you think something might be there because it's your imagination of course yes that's why right 100 like there's stuff like have you seen hereditary the movie yeah hereditary yeah so there's a scene um where the boy wakes up right oh i know you're talking about yeah he wakes up in the room he's like he just wakes up and it's he's waking up in the night right in his room and it's dark he doesn't know what's going on around him and if you're really like

like sharp and you look in the back yeah like you'll see the most mod thing bro you'll see like a girl poked up in the top of the roof in the corner just like a little like spider-man on the roof just like stay not it was his mom it was his mom i think it was his mom she's like possessed and she's like floating posted up on the in the corner of the room on the roof just like chilling there yeah he just carries on with his day like stuff like that if i'm in a dark room i always think there's like someone watching me

Exactly. That's what it is. I have to be on my toes. I'm looking around. I'm like, make sure no one's around. The craziest one is whenever I'm like in the shower and I hear like a sound like downstairs or something. I always think like, Oh shit. Somebody, somebody is breaking in. Somebody's breaking in. I got to fight them naked. Yeah.

i swear always bro anytime i hear a sound or like i'm in the shower or even you don't want your shampoo in your hair and you gotta close your eyes that's the scariest moment ever because when you can't see anything yeah you're not in control like i'm scared like i'll open my eye and i see something in the corner that's it bro flying flying arm you know i'm hitting something okay going back to guyana though have you seen personally any spiritual experiences or any ghosts

I've seen a couple still. I've seen a couple. Yeah. I haven't told anyone these stories, but I'll, I'll drop it on the potty. Um, let me hear it. So there's another group I haven't talked about. That's also a bit more popular. They're called the shadow people. Oh shit. I think I heard about this. Yeah. I think they're probably world renowned, but I, I've actually seen them. Um, I'm not sure if it was, maybe I was a kid. It was a different point, but I, I seen them, seen them. So this was actually, it was me and a couple of classmates when I was in school there. Uh,

And what we did, we were doing some pretty non-kosher stuff. We went up to like the teacher's room. Yeah. And we were just up there and we took a ladder, the emergency ladder, and we would just climb up to it. And we got to like a boiler room or something, like just a room that you're not supposed to, like a mechanical room, right? Yeah. So we're in there.

and it was me a girl and two other uh males yeah so we're walking around and out of nowhere i remember seeing this very like specifically i saw a black it was like a black dot or a black outline of something on the wall and like a dot yeah it was like it was it was like a an elongated dot it

It was moving weird. It wasn't moving like anything I've seen before. And I didn't react to it. I just looked at it and just took it in. And I just saw this dot move and get bigger and bigger on the wall. So as I'm looking at it, I'm a kid at this time. So if I see something, now I would probably dip. I'm not saying... Yeah, but you didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was. So I was fascinated. So I'm just looking at it to see what could this possibly be. And I look at my other friends.

And one of the boys starts crying. Oh, shit. Yeah. And the other girl goes on, like, goes on the ground and folds her leg. What the fuck? It was the weirdest thing. She goes on the ground, she folds her legs, and she puts her head down and goes on the ground. I don't know. I was looking at it like, what's going on here? And then the other boy who was just, like, standing and looking at me, he just says, let's leave. And everyone gets up, leaves. And from that point, we've never talked about it ever again.

No one's ever brought it. Word. And I've just kept it in the back of my mind still thinking like, what did I see that day? That day. Yo. And after researching and figuring out what creatures exist in Guyana, I'm pretty confident I saw like a shadow person. Damn.

Which was weird. It was a bit darker in the room. And I'm telling you, the darkness I saw compared to the darkness in the room, it was a very distinct darkness. It was like something there, like an actual figure. Yeah, like something was actually there. It wasn't like on the wall. It was literally just using the wall to move. It was very weird. What the fuck?

Now what's crazy is that You have people there That saw the same thing though That's why Yeah That's why it's crazy Yeah that's why I was looking at them And I was looking at How they reacted to it Like one girl The dude was crying The girl was Sitting down Putting her head What is going on here Like is someone morphing right now Like She was like Doing some weird movements But yeah man It's like I'm telling you The stories are They're crazy I have another one too Yeah yeah yeah So I actually remember This one even better And

My dad was here with me Was this when you were younger Or older This is when I was younger This is when I was like 10 Okay okay So um What happened was We were at an ice cream shop Yeah So in Guyana Uh

5 and 6 p.m. It's pitch black. Yeah. So it gets pitch black immediately. So this is around like 8, 9 p.m. Yeah. So this is towards the nighttime. And we went to get ice cream that night. A family of ours owns an ice cream shop. So we were just there chilling outside eating like an ice cream sandwich or something. Yeah. And Ghana is very a highly vegetated area. Like there's a lot of forests and stuff like that. Like jungles. Yeah, jungles. Jungles.

So we're just chilling there and right next to us, it's the dark, the sky is dark, right? Yeah. And I remember seeing something. I don't know what it is to this day. I can't even find anything about it. I see this, like this vulture. It wasn't even a vulture. It was like this huge green bird.

Yeah. It was coming and it stopped on top of one of the power, like the power line poles. It stopped there and the eyes were red. I remember seeing the eyes were red and it was looking around and I was looking at it and asked my, I remember, I specifically remembered asking my dad, dad, what is that? And I'm pointing, he looks at it and,

For the first time ever I saw my dad freeze I'm not even kidding I swear to God I swear I remember him looking And freezing He's just looking at it Like this And I'm like I'm just trying to take in Like what's going on What's happening And my dad looks at me He says look away And keep eating your ice cream And I looked away Oh he said look away He said look away And keep looking at your ice cream I remember he calling My uncle over And saying What is that Yeah And then they're just Looking at it And they're like Just don't mind it Look away and keep Eating your ice cream What the fuck Yeah

I'm not I'm all baffled to this day I don't even know what that was Dog you sound a little fucking Green Goblin real life It could have been Green Goblin bro

So was it like a creature? Was it like a human figure? What was it? It was like this really, like a bird. It was like a really huge bird. Like the wingspan was crazy, man. Like when it's landing, it opened its wings to like catch the air and land. It was way too big for like an Eagle or a bird. It was really green. Yeah. Red eyes. I don't know what it was. Like my dad, like I always ask my dad, like everyone goes to their dad for stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I asked my dad, I'm like, he didn't know himself. He looked at it and he,

And he was just like Puzzled Like I don't even know What he was thinking that day Damn Did you ever look into like Some of the mythology That it might represent I have But I just can't find Anything that's similar I've seen birds And it's like huge birds This guy unlocked a new Pokemon You saw a legendary Pokemon I saw something I've never seen before I'm just bad

I don't know what to say. Damn. Yeah, man. It's honestly like crazy. The things you see, man, it's honestly like, I'm trying to figure out what it is. I don't even know what it could possibly be. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's crazy. It could, it could. Yo, cause I heard there's a lot of sightings of like dinosaur type of creatures. Like a lot of people say some dinosaurs still exist to today. Yeah. To this day. Yeah. But they're like hidden away in very remote areas where not a lot of people go to. Right. So there's this, um, there's this, um,

there's this comedian is he a comedian no there's this artist david cho right i've heard about him you heard about him right and he went on an adventure to find the last dinosaur to live you hear about that i've never heard about that really yeah they even made like a whole documentary and everything right okay so bro so he had to find like this village no he had to go deep and deep and deep into the jungle and i think it's in south africa somewhere okay somewhere

But he ended up at this village, right? And then this village was like, okay, we can take you there. We can take you there. But the way to get there is very, very dangerous and you will likely die. Like there's not only diseases you might catch, there's crocodiles, there's all these poisonous animals, snakes, whatever. So you going there to try and find this dinosaur, you're probably going to die. But these villagers, they all say that they seen it. Like it's actually a real thing.

And they've all like spoken to the people that are doing documentary. Like, yeah, this is real. Like it's documented. They have sightings of this real dinosaur. It's crazy. That's crazy, man. What the heck? Yeah. Also in China, right? Because you hear about it all the time. Like the Yeti or like Bigfoot and shit. Yeah. Yeah. That people have sightings, but there's no like solid proof, right? Oh, yeah. There's no solid concrete evidence. Yeah. So there's this...

crazy video i saw on youtube it was in china and they said it was the sound of a dragon waking up what it's crazy okay i want to play i want to play for you i have to see this bro what yeah so it was making this like super loud noise in the mountains in china

That's crazy. And it was multiple. It was multiple people. I want to say over 50 people that were there gathered. They were like, what is that sound? Here, I'm going to show you. Listen, listen. For 10 days. What the hell? You hear that? Yeah, what is that? What is that?

Yo, this is real though. This is real. Yeah, I know. What the hell? See, all these people, all these people like gathered to try and find out what it is, like what's going on. Where is this sound coming from? That's crazy. It's crazy. Like, what the fuck? That's crazy.

That's honestly, bro. I honestly respect people who go out of their way to like find stuff like that. Like, you know who Jeremy Wade is? Who's that? So he's a fisherman who goes and he finds like these crazy fishes from different places in the world. Oh, wait. Is it the River Monsters guy? Yeah. Is it River Monsters guy? Oh, okay. I know who he is. I should have said River Monsters.

Yeah, I know he is. Yeah, so he's the Rivers Monsters guy. So what he does is he goes around the world and he catches all these crazy out-of-the-world fishes. He catches these things that drag people into the ground and eat them, like these sharks. He catches the craziest things ever. And there was one that was really just whack. It was a fish with razor-sharp teeth.

What the fuck? It didn't look like a normal fish. It was a fish. Like these chompers of teeth, bro. Like they could like rip apart like meat like that. You know what's crazy to me though is that the fact that we haven't even explored like half of the ocean. Yeah. Half of the water is anything, bro. And you know the story of like Atlantis? Yeah. So there's this scientist that believes there's an underground like ocean within the ocean.

So it's like a deeper, it's like a deeper set of ocean within the ocean. It's very, very odd. Right. And he's trying to explain that the city of Atlantis might be underneath like Antarctica. Cause if you think about it, think about it, right? If there's no evidence of this place, Atlantis, but it's written about in books in ancient history through Plato, Socrates, whoever, right. All of these philosophers that have real events that they wrote about. Yeah.

Why is there no evidence of this lost city Atlantis? So the theory is that the reason there's no evidence is because over centuries it's frozen over and it's lost. Oh. Because you can imagine all of that shit is covering it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And there has to be a landmass there somewhere.

That's very interesting. I've never heard that. We'll find it soon, fam, because the world is global warming. Global warming, right? Global warming. It's melting, bro. They're melting like crazy. So something, what, should just randomly pop up like in Antarctica? That'd be sick. I think there's something actually there, bro.

What do you think? You think there's actually like something they're hiding there because none, like a regular person can't go there. Oh, of course not. Yeah. I, there could be something because even Antarctica, I don't think it's like fully explored. You know what I mean? It's not, it's not, I don't think so. I don't think anyone's like put in the actual resources to be like, is there anything here that's, is there a reason why this part of the world was frozen over? You know what I mean? Like was, was there like something here that froze this part of the world? Yeah. Um,

um but yeah i i don't think we'll ever like we probably won't see in this life but it'll probably come eventually i hope so bro because i really want to see something where it's like wait a minute this doesn't make sense to human history right now and then have to be like fuck we got to change what we know now yeah yeah do you think do you think if some crazy phenomenon whether it be like evidence of aliens or evidence of like uh

futuristic advanced civilization from the past comes up, do you think the media will hide it just because they want to be wrong about what they've wrote already?

I think if the media does find something about this, I think they'll try to get it as much to the public as possible. You think so? Yeah, but it'll be heavily regulated by the government. Because I think the government doesn't want people to know, like, with aliens. Remember before there was this long battle where the government kept denying there was aliens? Yeah. I read something recently, like,

like a month or so ago i read something where the government actually admitted that there are aliens and they were going to release a document about their findings about the aliens yeah it was like the cia like a black files yeah like some crazy file or something like that and joe rogan was talking about like there's aliens here there and there you don't know where they are um i think that'd be interesting to see like i don't know how it is with aliens but i think it'd be interesting to learn more about aliens yeah like what what can they do right because man's are talking about light travel and

I know. I know, right? I don't know if this is Star Wars, right? Like, man, they're talking about all this different stuff. But here's the problem, though. Here's the problem. If aliens do exist, right? Yeah. 100%, the world of religions, they're going to be baffled. What do you think? I think they might be baffled still. Baffled, like, wait, what? Yeah, they're probably going to be baffled. Because...

Yeah, that's true. Now thinking about it, I think everyone might look at it differently now because I think mostly religion is based off of, I wouldn't say earth, but it's mostly based off of like the culture around earth, right? How this one world, like I don't think religion talks about

the different universes or like if there's anything like that. No, not exactly. Cause, cause all they know about is earth, the land they were. Yeah. I mean, the land they had. Of course. Yeah. So they don't really, and there's no real talks about the cosmos space. Cause they didn't, they didn't have the technology to know about that. Of course. Of course. Yeah. So if, if some things come, if aliens land on earth, right. If there's like a huge phenomenon where like, damn, they're real, they're here. Yeah.

My theory is there's going to be a whole new religion, which will take over the world, which would be like, yo, this is where we came from. This is the answer of life. Like, this is what it's going to be. Because if they're super advanced, right? And they came from like the next side of the galaxy. Do you think they would have answers that we don't to the meaning of life? Well, I think if aliens were to...

I view it like this. If aliens come to us, I don't know if you've seen those videos or those documentaries where they find tribes on different islands. Yeah. Just been completely isolated from the majority of the world. Right. So they don't even know what's going on. They're using bow and arrows. Like there was a screenshot of them like seeing a drone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to shoot down with bow and arrow. They don't know what the fuck that shit is. They don't even know the full pieces to the puzzle. You know what I mean? Yeah. Full thing. I think that would be similar to aliens viewing us.

We're just keeping it to ourselves on this planet and we're not branching out to see different planets, maybe different areas. Yeah. And they're going to view us more of as like almost a primitive species where we haven't even discovered like maybe like the fuel they use to time travel or stuff like that or like jump warp speed or something like that. Because we're too like, we're too dumb for them. Yeah. Yeah. We're too caught up in our own world. We haven't even like, we haven't even, we haven't even got off the boat. We haven't even left our planet and went like- That's so true. To capitalize anywhere else, right? Yeah, that's so true. These guys haven't even like really-

to leave their planet and branch off into different areas. That's how we're going to be viewed as. Oh, bro. I think life will change 100% and I think it's just a matter of time before something like that happens. Yeah. And then everything's going to... Because

Because if you think about it, life right now, what is our purpose, right? Shit, get a job, like have a family, work, work, right? Work, whatever, spend on things you want to buy. But if the true, what if somebody came here and then gave us like the meaning of life or like what we're supposed to do with ourselves? That would change everything. That would change everything. That would change everything. Especially if they have proof of, let's say, the afterlife.

or where our souls go after. Whether you believe in that or not, right? Of course. If they have proof of that and they have knowledge of, okay, this is what's next, we're all going to be working towards that. We're not going to care about this. I mean, so all of this society building commercials, blah, blah, blah, selling product, blah, blah, blah, building wealth for nothing. Of course. Because it's going to be...

It's going to be for the next life, not this, the eternal. Yeah, it's actually interesting that you mentioned that. I was actually back like a year or so ago, a couple years ago, I saw this video of... It looked like it was trying to depict the Secret Service or the CIA or something. They captured an alien. I don't know if the video is probably fake or something, but it made a really interesting point where...

They captured this alien and they're interviewing it. Like it was a live video recording interview. I'll show you. Oh yeah. Where they basically talked to, to the alien and try to like, like, who are you? Where are you from? This green alien. And the alien basically said, I'm from earth.

oh shit we're like earth what do you mean and he basically said earth far ahead of time like he time traveled back or something like that yeah yeah and then we're like oh okay so how do you look like this like how do you know you're from earth stuff like that and he said the reason why he looks like this and everything has changed and he came back to warn us he actually came back to warn us that's why he's here yeah and he said there's going to be a huge war that breaks out

oh shit and it's gonna get to a point where all standards drop and mans are just dropping nukes and bombs and other bombs mans are just going deep just yeah yeah yeah wipe out each other because there's gonna be a division soon with people and it's get it's gonna get to the point where the other party wants that other party dead to the point where they're just gonna rip apart the earth just to just to win the battle yeah

And it's going to get to a point where literally we're going to damage human society as we know it. Or we can't even repair it. And there's no turning back from it. There is no turning back. There's no turning back. So I think it's going to be like this huge thing. Like you made an interesting point where if aliens do come. Yeah. Like we're just going to let go of all of our religious beliefs. Right. So I actually have a theory about that. What's your theory? What's your theory? I made a theory. So the theory I have is.

What's gonna happen is you said what are the two biggest groups right now? It's the Freemasons and Illuminati Illuminati is like Freemasons. Yeah, I think there's gonna be a huge outburst where one group is gonna rise to claim world power and

Because after the aliens come, they're basically just going to spit on our hierarchy of who's top. They're going to spit on the government. Oh, that's so true. They're going to spit on and say, none of this is this, this. They'll come with these points. Yeah. And let's say the Freemasons, they use their...

they use this information to rise above and say we will be the world government we will help you run run the world to meet up with the standards of the aliens and there's going to be people who obviously don't agree with that yeah it's going to be that's where the line that's going to be like a whole war that's going to be war in itself a war of control over the over the earth is what i'm thinking damn the video of the alien comes back into the play like it's crazy it just goes into a circle

- Shit. - What do you think about that? - I think when it becomes to that point, that's when everybody's like, okay, put me into simulation. - You got me though? - Put me in the metaverse. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, 'cause if you think about it, right?

Not everybody can be, let's say, the ruler of their own world. And a lot of people do. A lot of people want to be in control of everything in their life. But no way that's possible. If it comes to the point where we do have the technology to put us in that position and escape the harsh environment that they're in, the harsh reality of, let's say it's an apocalypse, let's say there's war, famine, whatever, and dip out, why not?

yeah like why not like an escape right yeah like imagine imagine you make your own minecraft world but it's like real life and you get to live in that forever that makes sense with like people like infinite tsukiyomi like that type of shit bro yeah like like the matrix yeah like the matrix like the cryopod or something he lives off of those tubes and he was in like a like he wasn't in i

a different world i would say he was in his world yeah yeah dreamed of to be his ideal world while in reality he was plugged in to find an escape i think that might be a big thing especially with like the metaverse like mark zuckerberg yeah bringing out like a different world where you can you can be who you want to be he's basically i think he would be creating an escape and

where people would undermine this current world and prefer more of the world that's in the metaverse because it's a world where they can change to whatever they want yeah they can do whatever they want in that world you know what i mean that's that's kind of what they really they're trying to they're trying to be the pioneers of it so that they can take advantage like be the ones to make the money off of it right that's what it is at the end of the day they want to be like the christopher columbus of this verse of course right yeah it's it's a battle for for power honestly who

like the amount of influence I can get. You know what I mean? You know what it is though? The thing is, I would never want to be in the metaverse unless it's like HD. Yeah. Cause right now you're telling me right now you would, you would just like live in the metaverse and everything just looks like PlayStation two graphics. Nah, bro. I think until, until it becomes close to reality, where it looks like 4k, like I can see pores and shit.

then it's gonna be a problem but as of right now with like vr you're hopping into the metaverse and the central land or whatever that shit looks like old ps2 playstation you know what i mean yeah no i know what you mean um i think we're getting to a point where stuff like that's gonna happen because with all like the technology coming you know what i mean like did you see what like you can implant chips at the back of your head and stuff yeah yeah yeah what is that about

bro. The back of your head. Okay. Do you think that's, that's kind of the whole reason I don't, I don't invest in a NFTs like a lot. I don't really invest much in NFTs. Do you? No, I don't, I don't get involved with that type of stuff. Cause I have a feeling like, okay, this is my theory on NFTs. Yeah. My theory on NFTs is there's this whole boom and it's a wave, right?

People are going to be buying digital art because it's going to be used in metaverse or whatever. Yeah. Sure. It's going to be the first of the first, blah, blah, blah. A hundred percent. I believe all of that shit is going to go up in value. Yeah. But I believe, uh,

a lot of the other things outside of it are going to raise in value also. So for example, instead of collecting digital comics like on Vivi, I think the physical are going to jump in value just as much. Just because it's like the abstract

active collecting shit yeah of course it's always been like that with video games i'll give an example video games what's the one thing you want to have in video games the newest skin yeah yeah i want a new camo i want the newest skin like fortnite oh bro kids abuse their mom's credit card oh yeah they drop their skin i want the new skin and stuff everyone's dropping their money just to like get the social acceptance they they they want right

They want to feel that. They want to feel, oh, this guy has the newest skin. You know, he looks sick with it. Yeah. So that's what people want. They want that acceptance. They want power. Okay. My question to you then is, do you think there's going to be a point where they care more about the online rather than the physical? Yeah.

I think it's already gotten to that point. You think so? Nah, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I think it's there. I know people who spend countless hours just gaming. Some of them haven't even talked to me in the last couple days. For real? Yeah, like some people just like, they game hard, man. I know guys who go deep. Because I know you're a serious gamer. I'm not too deep into that realm. But like I do see where you're coming from. But I don't know if I can see it becoming to like,

it's all digital yeah or caring too much caring more about the digital than than the real world i don't know i think right now in the world everything is accessed through the computers like literally when i wake up the first thing i see is the computer that's right next to my bed yeah anything there i could get on a zoom call for school i can talk to my friends on the computer i can order food on the computer through breeds and have it delivered to me i can go to work on the computer if i wanted to i can do literally i can amuse myself i can play games i can do

literally anything on the computer. You know what's crazy though? Because I was a serious gamer when I was a kid, right? When I was elementary school, I gamed six, seven hours, man. Like, bum, bum, bum, right? I'm playing, playing all day long. And I grind in those games. But there was a point in my life where I'm like, yo, this is the greatest game ever. Like, right here? This is the greatest game ever. So why don't I grind here? Why don't I build my character here? Why don't I get, like,

The clothes I want in this world. Do I not get like the power I want, whatever, the friends I want here rather than on the game. So do you think, this is my theory, do you think there's ever going to be a change where all of these gamers are going to have an awakening and be like, yo, why not just do it out here rather than online? But that's tough. That's tough, right? Because what would cause that type of an awakening? Like this is a better game than that game.

I'll tell you something that'll make you woke right now. I'll tell you some next level stuff. So in my life, this is all for you young jumpers out there. I'll give you some advice. So the biggest thing why people fall online, I was also like this when I was a bit younger. Yeah. The biggest thing why I prefer online then, I thought similar to that, than doing that in real life.

Is In On If In online If I Make a mistake I can just redo it And get it done again Oh that's so true So in real life Mistakes Hurt a lot Mistakes have actions to it Yeah In a game if I make a mistake I can respawn I can Yeah that's so true I can do something like that I don't have to suffer The repercussions That's some deep That's deep So now some people In real life They're scared to do actions Because they're afraid Of messing up

So that weighs more heavy than actually just doing it. You know what I mean? Yeah. About the outcome. I'm just actually just doing it and going with the flow. So that's where we get to a point where some people, they're just, they're scared. They're scared to do certain things because they don't know if it's going to work out. They, what if this happens? What if that happens? People just don't, they don't go for it. Right. Yeah. Rather than I'll give an, in a video game, if I, I'll give an example, let's say I'm playing, I'm going deep in cod and I push a guy. If I push a guy and I die,

It's fine. It's fine. Just respond. Give me one second. I'll respond. I'll get back in there and I'll go crack into it. So mistakes are heavily weighed, obviously, in the real world. And people are scared to suffer the consequences to those mistakes. Mm-hmm.

So, so being, yeah, you know what? Cause for me, like being online, being in a game, it's almost like you can do everything. No consequence. Of course. No consequence. You can, you can be the person you want to be and you don't have to like face rejection, blah, blah. You don't have to face any problems, failure, uh,

Because you never really fail in a video game because it's just a game. It's a game. Yeah, you could win if you just keep committing to it. You know what I mean? Like, there's this. Damn, that's some deep shit, John. I just bagged that. That's what I'm telling you, bro. GTA, bro, I could go ham on pedestrians. I don't have to suffer consequences. But everything comes with a price in this world. Yeah. And games, I think it doesn't.

And that's what gives the people to do more things in video games knowing that they're not they don't have to suffer anything for any Mistakes they do. Yeah, and that's what I think it's the idea of punishment, right? Actually, no, we're talking about this. I have another theory. Yeah, the theory. Okay, let me hear you So this one's actually back on the world domination. Yeah, we talked about where the world control so talking about this They actually brought up have you ever seen Kingsman Kingsman? Yeah, Kingsman like the Secret Service Secret Service one

So in one of the movies I can't remember which one it was There was a scene Or the whole plot of the movie Was There was a really Really rich guy Yeah Valentine right Yeah It was the black dude with the hat And he brought out This revolutionary invention And

it was a chip and i think the chip was implanted into your head or something it was implanted somewhere yeah yeah where and i think it made you feel better or you can do a lot more stuff right and the best part was you brought it out for free so it was like the it's kind of like just going around and um no i think it was like free cell phone service or whatever it was like free cell phone service with this chip yeah yeah you have this chip you can do like

like the possibilities are endless compared to if you didn't have it and he provided for free. So all you have to do is go in and get it and get the chip. So everyone is obviously lining up and getting the chip cause it's free. Yeah. It gives you all these benefits, right? I think you already know a lot of this. Go ahead. So in the end, what he did was he had this machine or he had this power with this chip. It had an ability by owning this chip. It, it,

emitted this frequency that basically rammed up your violent behavior to the max yeah have a very aggressive personality yeah and what this created was since like literally billions of people had this chip it created nothing but violent intent so everyone was literally everyone's killing each other it was a war it was a straight up war just for someone to be above anyone else and after looking at that movie like i was just bagging this like yesterday i was it was it was a shower of thought

I was just thinking about this right now. Elon Musk bringing out these new chips. And I was looking at these chips. And I'm like, what do you mean by that? Why are you bringing these chips out? What's the point of this? So I'm researching it. And I read somewhere where it says these chips are made to control the behaviors of people. It could be, man. It could be. It's going in your brain and it's going to control the different parts of the brain that stimulate behaviors. Yeah. So I'm like, what do you...

That's the whole issue. If we do take part in this technology, we're giving them the advantage. We're giving them our trust. We're giving them us. If you're putting something in my brain, I'm giving you me, bro. This is the control center. Exactly. And what's even crazier, bro, is we don't even realize that we've already done that with our phones. Wow.

We yeah, this is pretty much part of us. Oh this is pretty much part of us like we have it on us 24/7 almost like when you're sleeping it's literally right beside you right beside me bro It's this is pretty much the same shit as having a chip in your brain But we don't really take that in you don't take in like we're giving our whole life to this right here Yeah, you know and the next step from that is just putting it part of our body. I

That's true. That's true. That's some woke type of stuff, bro. It is. It is because that's the only place we're headed. And eventually, because, bro, look at all those conspiracies with Edward Snowden, how they're collecting information about us that we don't know. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Having an iPhone, putting your trust, your whole life into a phone like that. You're giving your secrets. You're giving your day-to-day schedule. You're giving everything, your habits, sleep pattern, anything. They all know that stuff now. They all know that stuff now. It's almost the same thing as like,

You're giving your life up, but you just don't realize the consequences because there's no consequences that we see in plain sight. Of course. But who knows behind closed doors if there's other intentions that we don't realize we're doing? Yeah, that's true. I think...

Being able to have a closed door now in this world is a commodity. Yeah. Because I'll give an example, like where I work, I work, I work, um, security, right. And our area, we have cameras to like, we can see everything, bro. Yeah. I can scroll, you can be like a hundred meters away and I can zoom right into your phone and I can see what you're doing on

your phone like i can see if you're sending a text i can see what like it's all on camera it's all on camera and everything's recorded so i can i can i can go back to december 12th 2013 and i can find footage just like that yeah what that was recording at that time our cameras are really advanced that's crazy because you can really relate because you work that yeah i worked i can only see like i can i can pick up someone walking into the mall i can track literally what they're doing they go into this store they went to this store they went to that that that they bought this yeah

Left the mall Like I can catch their whole Experience in the mall Just by sitting down And clicking a couple of buttons Damn

It's crazy. Like, it's required. Like, our mall. I work at a mall, right? Yeah. The mall's crazy, man. So much stuff happens at that mall. Yo, yo. You told me before that you had, like, ghost stories at the mall, too. Yeah. Okay. I got to hear some of this. I got to hear some of this. We have a rude ghost story. Okay. Don't say which mall, though. Don't say which mall. I'm not going to get into the mall. So, we have a ghost story. He's an entity. We call him...

We call him the trench coat man. Yeah, like, whatever you say. People get spooked. Like, what do you mean by that?

I'll tell you something. I think I've seen him, but honestly, if you work, like I'm thinking at that time I was probably like tired. So maybe I just, so you're like a mat. You think you're imagining it? Whenever I see, like there's been a couple of times where I've seen some pretty questionable things. What do you mean by that? Like this, this is not the normal stuff. And I just brush it off to me like being tired. Right. So, um,

This was when the mall was closed, right? Because you worked like the night shift. I worked the night shift. So it's whenever they give me shifts, right? And you're alone? I'm alone. Sometimes I'm alone. Bruh. So what happens is... The very first sighting was our manager. He said...

When the mall was closed, everything was done. He was walking in one of the back hallways. The back hallways are sus. The back hallways are dim and light. They look like something out of a horror movie. They're not well maintained. So he's just chilling, walking in the back hallway. And he sees someone. Take a moment. This is like midnight. The mall is done. The mall is closed. No one's here. So he sees someone. And you look up.

And you don't stare at the person while you're walking at them You look up and you then look around to make sure that no one else is here and then you start walking, right? So he looks up and as he's walking he looks around to make sure everything is good And he looks back and as he's looking he sees As you get closer you see a bit more details. He notices a guy Wearing a long trench coat and he's got a hat on And the thing he said which was weird was he said he couldn't see the guy's legs, right?

Oh, yeah. Like he was really like puzzled. He said specifically I was looking at his legs because there were no legs. Like when you're looking at something, if you don't recognize something, you keep looking at it. Yeah. Your mind pulls something out of the database that matches something. Right. All he saw was a man wearing a trench coat and a hat and no legs. Like he's trying to, his mind is trying to put together like, what am I, what am I seeing right now? What's it? Yeah. And as he gets closer, he blinks for a second and looks away. Gone.

yo gone absolutely gone and stuff like that we brush off right yeah but another guard

Saw the same thing? Saw the same person. Saw the same person, bro. How is that possible? So she said she was in like the main part where the mall was closed, like the main court. And as she was like looking around to make sure no one's in the mall, she sees a guy just standing still, looking in the distance. So she looks up and then walks closer. And as she looks, she says he was wearing like

a creamish, darkish trench coat with a hat. But the thing was, she couldn't see his legs. It was like he was floating.

And I was like, that's exact same shit. I was like, no way, no way. That's not, that's not possible. Like, I'm like, that's, that's, that, that, that's not real. Like to the T. Yeah. And, and he, he basically outlines exactly what he looks like. And the manager says, you know, it's, you know, it's crazy. This is the first time me telling the story. Bro. That's the first time me telling the story. And it's crazy how you give out the exact same details when I'm telling the story.

But I was like, I was like, I was like, oh my God, that's crazy. That's crazy. Um, I have another story. This one's actually a bit more messed up. Why is there so many stories at this mall, bro? This mall has some history, dog. This mall's been through everything. How old is the mall? How old is this mall? Late,

like 1980s 1990s 1990s so that's not that old it's not that old but it's got but it definitely has history yeah yeah specifically this one goes this other story i'm telling you was my manager he worked at a different place okay okay so this place was actually one of the more haunted places in canada yeah um so he used to work then he told me the craziest story man i can't yo i'll drop you guys this is the craziest thing i've ever heard like yeah ghost stories so

So he's working at this place and he normally works by himself. So all he does is he goes around. It's a staff room. Yeah. So this is a place that all staff go to and stuff like that. Owners and stuff like that. So he's in the staff room. It's of a very of a hotel staff room of a hotel. So he goes in and he does his normal patrol. Yeah. Looks around, make sure everything's good.

It's crazy. So he's waiting. Yeah. And as he's waiting, he's in the kitchen area of the staff room where they prep food. And this is nighttime. This is like a one in the morning. So nobody's there? No one's there. It's just him. Yeah. So he's looking around. He pulls out his notebook to document like nothing's here. Everything's good. And he looks back and he sees this guy walking. Yeah. Just casually walking by.

and he said something really stuck out with this guy because he was wearing a suit from like the 70s like it didn't look like a suit that was made today yeah yeah it was like a vintage suit so he looked back and then he was like hey like you're not supposed to be here yeah yeah and he walks and he goes into the other room no one's there bro he says i swear to god this is what he said happens

The very next day, he comes back to work. He doesn't... Typically, that has so much ghost and stories and stuff like that. He doesn't... He brushes it off, right? Yeah, yeah. He was walking and on the wall of this famous hotel, it shows pictures of various owners that own the hotel. So the owner...

Who owned it in like the 1980s or 1970s. Yeah. He said, I cannot, I'm not kidding. This spitting image of the guy I saw walking was the owner of the night in the 1980s. What the fuck? Same suit, same everything. He was just walking. And I'm like, yo.

I'm like, that is... That's some like the shining shit. That's what I'm telling you, bro. I'm like, that's crazy. In the hotel. In the hotel. And that's not even the worst part. He said a week later. So he works with this other dude. Yeah. The other dude he works with is Aboriginal. He's really into spiritual...

Oh, so he can feel. He can feel a presence? He can feel it. And he told the guy I know that works there. He says, this place is spiritually heavy. Like, it's spiritually rich. Oh, shit. And he's like, okay, I'll keep that in mind. So here's the craziest thing, man. He told me. I couldn't believe this when he told me this. He was working this one day. And he heard...

talking yeah you're like you're like talking and this is a night shift right so if i'm hearing that i'm leaving i'm not i'm not yeah i'm not getting involved this is not my area this is not my my set of skills right after this guy said this area is spiritually heavy this is not my yeah this isn't my level i don't belong here so i leave um but he heard like he heard the whispering yeah and he walks into this room and

He, and based on this information, the guy told him, he says, he speaks out loud. Like he said, at times I thought I was going crazy. He's like, listen, I'm just a guard here. I don't want to have any problems. Just let me do my job and I wouldn't, don't bother me and I wouldn't bother you. Right. So as he's leaving and he looks back just to do a final check, this is where, you know, it's all apartment buildings in New York where those, those stairs outside. Yeah. Yeah. Like emergency stairs. Emergency stairs. So this hotel, this hotel has it in the back. Yeah. So he looks out the back and he saw,

He saw something of a woman looking at him through the window. Just like an image standing still looking at him. He looks back for a second and he looks back like, you know, when you look at something and you, and you see like something's not normal and your body tenses up. Yeah. He looks back. He bought it. He said his body tense up. He looked, he looked forward, didn't look back and just walked away.

And here's the worst part. Yeah. He was almost done his shift that day. He was done his shift that day, right? And as he was getting ready to leave, he gets a text on his phone from the spiritual guy. Yeah. And the text says, you saw them, didn't you? No! What the heck? Bro! He was like, he was so... Bro, he was shook. He told me, I cannot tell you how shook or how on...

How like bad I felt I didn't feel normal that day When he sent me that text You saw them didn't they What the fuck And he calls him He calls him and he says What do you mean by that What do you I would be asking like What do you mean by that And he says The owner's wife You saw her didn't you How did he know And I was like And he's like He was like How did you know that And she's like Oh she told me What the fuck She told me she saw you doing She told me she saw you Doing your patrols Bro And you saw And you told her To say all this stuff I'm like

I'm like there's no way you're telling the truth this guy said he's like yeah yeah what happened I'm like that's crazy man that's crazy he said right after that he quit like he couldn't he couldn't do this anymore yeah he's done he died to the point where he heard talking yeah and then he actually saw someone staring like he felt uncomfortable bro he just stopped working

Bro. Crazy, huh? That's crazy. That might be one of the craziest stories I heard. I was baffled when he told me this. I'm like, you're joking, right? He's like, I'm not kidding. Yeah. This is what I saw. He says, to this day, I cannot get the image of what I saw in that window out of my head. I always see it in a window. Damn. It's like imprinted. You know when something's imprinted in your mind? Yeah, and you can't forget about it, bro. He said, I cannot get the image of that woman's face out of my mind. I just can't. Wow.

And then, so that was like the catalyst of him leaving. He's like, nah, fuck that. I'm never going there again. Not doing that anymore. He moved and he started working where I'm working and he just dropped that story. Damn. That's crazy, man. That's crazy. What the fuck? Yo, I hate it when it's those things that connect to other people because that's how you know it's real. Yeah. Honestly, like when, when, when pieces of that puzzle start fitting up and you're like, this is such a solid story. Like I,

I find it hard, like, not to believe, you know what I mean? I know. Like, it's such a sick story. Like, it's crazy. It's just a crazy story. It's so much that it just lines up and it's, like, unexplainable, bro. Exactly. Exactly. Like, it's, like, I was shaking. Like, I'm like, there's no way this is real. Like... Dog, that actually gave me, like, goosebumps. Like, I could see everything in my head. I...

Bro, when he said the face he says I still can't get the face out of that window I can't get it out of my head like I was like shaking I'm like just thinking about what that could like what that face could be. Yeah, old woman staring at him I

I actually have another story about that. You have another story? Bro, this guy has all the stories, man. Yeah, they're horror stories. So this one, it was on a different hotel. Yeah. So there was a hotel. I can't remember the specific hotel, but a woman died in this hotel and her head, someone's head got decapitated and was rolling down. I think it was in the newspapers. I can't remember where it was, but a woman basically died. Yeah. And someone's head got decapitated and it was rolling down the stairs. That's all I took from this news story. So a

a couple went into this hotel. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'm not sure if the story is real, but someone told me this story. So he went to the hotel and they were living in the hotel just for a couple of days. Right. Yeah. And as he was going in, he didn't, he didn't know about the story. He didn't know. So as he's going into the, um, the hotel goes up into his room, he's opening his room. It's a really short story. He opens up, he's opening the room. Yeah. It was not, it was not unlocking. It's not locking. Right. So he's trying to open it. It's not opening. Yeah.

He looks into the keyhole Yeah, the room just to see like what is something blocking it something and all he sees is red He just saw red like just red. Yeah, just red like really like like a light light red Yeah, just right with some bits of black just like red and he's like, okay, maybe something's blocking the um This is crazy. He sees red right red. Yeah bit of black. I'm getting chills telling this story So he looks at it and he's like, okay, let me go down downstairs and check he goes downstairs and

And he says, I was at room so and so and so. Yeah. It's not opening. And then all the staff like was shit shook. They were like, did you try getting into that room? And then he's like,

He's like, yeah, but it's not open. He's like, okay, don't go into that room again. And he's like, why? He's like, here's a new room. Take this room, right? So they told him the story how there was this crazy woman who I think she killed her husband and took someone's head off and threw it down the stairs or something like that. But one of the biggest features to her was she had a white dress and really red eyes. Oh, shit. So she was looking out the hole. Oh, my God. Yeah. And that's it. The story ends from there. She has really red eyes.

You have some crazy stories, man. You have some crazy stories. I had a John one time. Holy. Yeah, man. It's crazy. See, I want to, I want to be able to like go out into spooky places and then come out with my own stories too. That's why, that's why I'm trying to do more vlogs. Yeah. But would you be down to do the haunted vlogs with us? Yeah.

I know sometimes you're not about it. Yeah, bro. Sometimes with these stories I'm hearing. Yeah. I don't want to put it. You don't want to be put in those situations. I don't want to be put in situations like that. I see a guy. I see a guy just run past us in the forest. What am I supposed to do? Why am I here? What am I doing here? Not because we had stories before of like us trying to go geocaching and shit. And then it takes us to like

Undisclosed locations, man. Next locations, man. Into the freaking, the forest. And John's like, nah, I'm not going there. I'm not going there. They're going pitch black into a forest with like the biggest morale boost. I'm not doing that. What do you mean by that? Going there with just a flashlight. I'm not doing that. No, this is a funny story. So we were doing geocaching. John was with us. And then it took us to this spot. It was like, it was literally in like the back roads. It was literally in the back roads. We haven't been here before, right? Yeah. Okay, we'll go. We'll go.

So we pull up, John pulls up and he's like, it's taking us to the forest. Like straight in the darkest forest in the area. And it was nighttime. It was, I think it was like 10 o'clock. It was pitch black. It was later than that. It was like, it was like close to midnight. Yeah. It was, it was bad. It was bad.

So we walked in right so no we asked John like John you're coming to come in like it was me chair and Gavin I think John's always there as well. Yeah, so it was a bunch of was the whole squad was there this one sure so we're brave John was about it John was about this guy's waiting in the car So we walk in right and this is a story told John so we're walking towards the force walking towards force We're looking at the geocache thing like okay shit. You gotta go a little bit deeper. I

Okay, we'll go a little bit deeper. Walking and walking in. And then we're trying to look around because there's stories of people doing geocaching and they find like dead bodies. They find like murder weapons. They find like random shit.

You know what I mean? Why? Why do you do it? In nowhere. Okay. So we were walking and I'm trying to look like, fuck, do I see anything around there? Do I see anything? And then I see like a light, like a glow, like almost like a lighter. Yeah. It's like just glowing in the back. I'm like, what is that? What is that?

So we book it. We run, right? We run, run. And then you see us. You see us. We're running. You see John. John's the. What? This guy's panicked. This guy's panicked. I was spooked.

I was spooked. I was fully expecting some like next Bigfoot to be chasing them or something. The whip was right. The whip was hot. And I just spun out. Drive, drive, drive. And this guy's like, let's go, let's go, let's go. Spun out, bro. I spun out on that street. But that whole story was fake. We didn't see nothing. We just wanted to scare you. We didn't see shit. We didn't see shit.

Well, we just wanted to scare you. That was a good scare. You put me on my toes there. Because when I saw you guys running out of the forest. Because it was all of us. It was like a bunch of us too. Yeah, everyone was running out. I thought like, honestly, I didn't know who everyone was there. Anyone could have been like someone we didn't know. Like it was some weird stuff. Yeah. But we'll run more. We'll run more on the vlog. Because fam, I have so many other vlogs I got to post. And so many other ideas I want to do. But it's just a matter of doing it with everybody. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I feel like when you have everybody together, you get the reactions. The chemistry is high. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be the right chemistry, you know? Of course. Of course. That's why I need you there next time. Of course. I'll be there fam. I'll be there. Bet? Yeah. All right. Thank you everyone for watching this episode of Jumpers Jump podcast. Shout out to John. This is his first time on the podcast. You might've seen him on the discord. So if you haven't joined the discord already, join that link in bio. Yes sir. Follow us on Instagram, links in bio and yeah, Jumpers Jump out. Later. Good episode bro. That was sick.