Back To Basics | Group Chat News Ep. 907
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I just trying to start off congratulate late, uh, the three people to my left and on the screen the candidate one, Donald j. Trump is a going to be inaugurated with january fifth, I believe. And a big congratulations to you three. Thank you.

Just like I had no candidate, I was impartial and i'm just, you know i'm going to go with whatever the outcome was and .

this is the outcome. So you know, I I I said I had for okay, and who's .

effectively a surge of trump now great.

I think he's going to be a great as the head of the fda ah you're going .

go on the White house. I am really .

yeah and and I think like the the biggest take away that like it's really, really important for people understand because like I know like a lot of people are sad and angry and hurt and at the end of the day, uh, all of the things that happened last night in the election, whether there was the presidency, the senate or the house, was actually pretty obvious and they never the arrogance of the democratic party, actually inflicted massive pain on themselves.

And if they did not, they clearly, we're too busy shouting at everyone that they never actually listened to anyone. And instead of listening to what people actually care about, they wanted to impose what they thought was the right values of the party. And the fact that dont trump won the popular vote is the bigger spit in the face. Even I was.

So the time was like the biggest a reason for there. So Donald trump gained three million votes from the last election, and here lost fifteen million votes.

which which down itself with a side .

of million.

You so clearly people didn't come out that is that the number of show that, and you know, the things that are shocking to me is the latino vote just overwhelmingly jumped, I think, like eighteen, twenty points on men, nine points on women. And this is the same guy that called mexicans a rapist, drug dealers and murder.

And but that was in a that was taking on a context, again, that was in, he was referencing the illegal .

harmony of the hydrogenic voters, or docker families, which were tactically illegal.

That matter, that doesn't matter.

That doesn't matter. But I think IT doesn't matter .

is the numbers are there are not giving them credit for. Just really quick is like I think that a lot of latinos well aware that there are really bad people from southern amErica coming in. I think that there is a lot of linos that have fought for to try to go down the legal path or do IT the legal way that are offended that people aren't now like, I think it's I think what democrats underestimated was its way more nuance than see he called them rapist, murders why don't they all hate him? Like it's a way more nuances ah .

pulling shows that he resonated with everybody .

accept women over sixty five.

No, everyone is no is literally every .

group went up a separate women over sixty five.

But if you look at all educated men and women pull towards terrorists, working class workers pull towards trump, there's way more working class workers in america. Then there are educated americans.

yeah. I mean, how did the democrats not read that start line when they .

were for president? That was a mess up and for whatever region trump resonates with with that group and you know he's made a lot of promises, see uh, what comes of IT but well, he can deliver .

on IT because they control the senate and .

the house yeah then the scary things that I I believe now that he's back is there could be two supreme court justices that rolled out clearing Thomas and south lego. So it's gonna be A. Conservative court, regardless, like those guys are probably going to step out unlike what the bitter ginsberg did and just to preserve the court.

And there's a lot of second order effects of that. And you know someone who is a daughter and talk to a lot of women this morning, there's a lot that could be changed with abortion. I know you guys don't care about IT because use your APP daughters um but right now it's a state level.

This is why they lost because you guys talk down to people that's talking down and you don't care. Why would you that not even true?

If you had a daughter and not two sons, I bet your view would be different.

No, my view is i'd live in a state where and .

eight could change the federal supreme court judge. I know what they overturned, the David to states rights.

but trump has always said that he wants to keep at the .

state right that loads up to the supreme court if whoever he appoints I know.

but you're hanging on one issue.

And gun rights, like I care if you know people can just if school shootings expand because anyone can get a gun without any limitations.

that's a lot. That's a lot of like what if they do they they have never said that they're gonna do any of these things. They've said they have to the world. They vents said anything about gun it's a slippery slope. That's what people who own gun say and democrat make fun of them, right?

Like you have to understand that like if if you try to take any gun, right, the reason why gun people say no is because they say it's a slippy slow and so it's all just like fear and anxiety and all this stuff and and I think that like the biggest thing that I see is everyone is like panic about old, then they're gona do this. There's gonna do this. They're going to do this.

I just don't I don't know. They haven't said they're gonna do that. When he was in office, he didn't say he was gonna one thing and then do drastically another. He really didn't. He stuck to what he was gonna do.

And I think you going to build the wall. We were promised the wall.

where was the wall? But there was something.

and he said, he said mexico was going to pay for that to happen.

right? But once again, you know that's not my point when .

he comes a policy decatur's ep losing because they're not putting a good strategy together. If you here's a thing, if i'm a woman in the democratic party, I would be disgusted with the democrats, not Donald trump. Dont trump won the game because he marketed Better than what was I like you .

to talk to more women in your life and see if you get the same response.

Whose fault is this? Whose fault is that? The loss? Reality, snake oil salesmen.

whose fault is that? I think a lot. So if you think about what is globally, what happened? I think the list is like sixteen countries. So like from austria to like a lot of western europe.

So what happened was covered stimulus, which happened in twenty, twenty under trump and twenty one and biden. And this happened globally across governments, created inflation. Working class workers got disenchanted with the current administration of a little look at a sweep. The in comments all loss because they needed someone to blame and it's the same reason like bill clinton got credit for the economy from ninety two two thousand he had the dark com boom, he had a technology wave and its same obama from global financial crisis there is uninterrupted financial growth from two thousand and nine to end of this term. So a lot of these things happen that are outside of the candidates actual views that are just .

global macro issue was not that. And what your discounting, I think a quick I think what your discounting is, they're not just reacting to the result. They're reacting to what people say that they're going to focus on.

And I think the democrats did not address the concerns that a lot obviously, that a lot of the voters have. It's not just them taking credit for an economy good or bad. It's that the whole point of their campaign and what they said their priorities were didn't resonate with what everyday people are feeling.

I actually think the biggest indictment here is, is mainstream media and mainstream media. I completely overplayed their hand and was basically pushing issues on people um that they didn't actually care about. They were telling people you care about this and that's why you're going to vote this way yeah and a lot of people say that like twitter is an echo chAmber. But if you actually synthesized the general sentiment of twitter IT maps pretty well to the outcome of this election, which is he won the popular vote and a sweep across basically everything, red wave across everything. And so I think that like these new platforms like Polly market and twitter and stuff are just a much Better barometer on like what's actually happening in the world and what's important to people verses CNN R M S N B C, fox news is they .

are pushing an agenda.

I just want to add that, like I think in my opinion, the mainstream media should be like punished in some way because the way that I see I was talking on in this before we started recording, like there are so many people this morning, people that I know, people that I see on social media, whatever, that have been told that this guy is hitler and he's going to militarize h the military against citizens, and he's going to lock everyone up and he's going to go his political opponents, and he's coming, after all women, and he's gonna A A blow blow b. Everything's going to look like hands made tail. And today they think that is gonna happen.

Yes.

people are devastated. People are like unable to function, unable to work, unable. And it's really, to be honest, it's mostly not because of the words that actually came out of trump's mouth, is what the media has told them for the last few months. And now people are fucking devastate ted. There are people that think hitler just got elected.

The thing, the same thing happened when obama got two terms, fox news and the rightwing media called a bertha kenyan. They, all them things.

Do you?

The worst .

person ever?

I understand. I don't agree with the hitler comment, but that's what my point is. The the mainstream media on both sides creates this. I agree with that.

But I think that if you look at IT, less than fifty percent of people actually cared about this, like more people voted for him than ever before, until they obviously saw through that. Like there there's not a ton of people who actually believe that. And so I think of the main point here is that, like regardless of what the main instream media saying on either side, people seem to care less about this. And I think it's like really promising for amErica generally is people seem to be drawn their own conclusions regardless of what's being said in the media.

Yeah, I agree with you when he comes to like look at the results, I agree with you. The majority seem to be able to find the signal through the noise. But I will say like there are millions of people, maybe low millions, who are scared to fucking death this morning because they think hitler just got elected.

But there's also still people wearing mask because they think they come true.

It's true. But like you shouldn't be able to like they should. I don't know how you would do IT, but the the way that the elections have gotten to and this one was the worst as far as like what demonizing the other person and now there's people that believe .

like it's just you come my hair raised one billion dollars, one billion trump raised three hundred and sixty I think SHE had a billion dollars to play with and not one good fucking marketing strategy for her business of getting elected as present united states and .

SHE had a million dollars but the media is blaming like, well, elon gave a million dollars .

a day that's not fair yes. Yeah you and like we will differ get to him. But like I think the thing that I find like today on on on C N N and M S N B C, the the commentators of blame the s lamming but but now they the fact they're .

calling, they're calling like black voters and latino o voters .

mastec rats, but like hard, like hard left leaning democrats now hate the tenos, which is like the biggest, funniest full circle of all time is right.

It's just you're not looking in looking at themselves.

Yeah exactly. So to me, if i'm the leader of the democratic party, I I would be like, okay, we got to inject new blood here. We got to bring a new ideas, and we have to focus on what people actually care about.

Every election is only about the economy. It's only about and when. When you look at what the narrative was, is that the economy is really good. If IT was actually really good, Harris, would I want one .

of other ship? I T, dont trumps a billion ego.

K.

so not three hundred and seventy six or eight days.

said I I think that the .

way he is the president.

I think the thing here is like the democratic, the democratic party needs like an entire overhaul.

I think I want to be because I thought, IT, that's what I need.

Campaign was trump is bad again. They did IT again. But I think the biggest .

delta here was actually between tim wall's and j events I don't think goes actually between trumped ma. I think if you look at like the the the republican party seems to be moving in a more progressive way from like the way that they are articulating laws and things that they want to do, but they are injecting like much more relevant people on stage.

Last night at the trump was day a White, uh, like bartram, uh J D vans and these are all people who are like gonna Carry the torch for the next couple generations in the republican party. But IT is yond there. There's no clear path for the democratic y party, right? Like I like if I was a democrat right now, be like, who is next and there's not really like a clear you know, it's not really a clear winner there. And so I think that it's just it's a weird way. It's the much more antiquated .

party now because they are just choosing check this out like the party of the future is about innovation. And I would never think the iron mask and palmer lucky, who are two of the most innovative founders of our time, are they are part of the administration like they're going to help innovate america. The republicans doors, trump got elon mask. That's seem to think four years ago, if you had told me that, I would said you .

had your mind not only he moved to pensylvania for two weeks to do like two or three rally a day. Like IT wasn't just him saying I support the person he like went to war for him. And I think that made a big difference.

Joe rogan made a big difference. Net boys made a big difference. Like all of these, like much more progressively thoughtful people, you know, just became super origin towards trump. And I think that that's like really move the eee the most yeah.

that's another example of democrats being out of touch is like they I mean, amErica not doing joe rogan not playing ball with those people, I think was a huge mistake. One big hope that I was gna say is I hope that now that this is trumps last term, that the democrats at least shift from trump is bad for their messes. Like.

now I just so last, yeah, I mean, you don't need you need to talk about him. He gets next four years, and we need one .

rebel for twelve years. They are for eight year。 How long? event? Sixteen, twenty four.

I've went with evil. That's been their main strategy. And hopefully now, I mean, once again, I ve set IT on here. I've been a lifetime. My actual frustration is that they have lost the script t so bad.

And hopefully this will force them to go back to the drawing born and say, OK, the trump is bad thing is out the window. So now what what do we actually stand for? I mean.

IT is the much the much harder fight is how are you going to beat jd Evans? Because it's a very high likelihood jd runs after this.

I actually don't think you can beat as as the only caveat will be if in a recession he he lose yeah because I think the only thing that matters to average americans is, can I pay .

my bills?

yeah. Can I? Can I spend time with my family and feel safe? And can I watch the chief s from the super bull that all americans care about is so simple what the average person actually cares about. But we want to overcomplicate IT that they are thinking about all of these other things. They don't actually matter like, i'm sorry, like ukraine doesn't actually matter to the average person.

They made IT a sticking point. And all wars.

republicans of court. But and all wars is a great, great for americans.

We don't want to see our people .

getting killed. Aren't killed? Yeah, that's money though you are.

The U. S. Troops are in .

war zones.

unlike A I N N of that.

And we just don't want to be dedicated. Everyone feels that it's on the d everyone's being told like things could escalate. Iran is now involved.

Russia threatening nuclear like it's just a bad feeling, you know. But when you try to get them to care about the average citizen of the ukraine over their own well being, they won't. They'll never .

care about that. The real a scary thing is because trump is clearly loose kennon, how he handles china and how g response.

But why do you say loose canon? What does he done that has made him a loose cannon?

There's been numerous books .

written by former administration was done that it's here, say, what is me?

The stories are pretty crazy.

what I actually do .

and what is that from her information? Because what hiding .

is different than .

doing what do? He's gonna have more involvement, in my opinion.

I think Better people around the table today, like when you look at the the, the republican party and who is who's there, it's elon. It's R F K. It's a va swami, S, J D, vans, David sax. These people are not dummies.

I don't think they are dummies. I agree with any with their policies, but I do think he now has clear like right to do whatever the healey wants. And I don't know if these people can stop on by contrarian perspective .

is just to build on this point that he actually doesn't have to do anything. He he himself can probably sit on his hands and a lot of good change will be enacted just because of people like alan and ark and stuff like I think that he actually in his best interest to basically do nothing or at least just be like sort of like this, talking head.

talking head. Yeah, talk shit. Make funny. Have some jokes.

He, all the cases got dropped. D, O, J is not pursuing anything. His legacy is intact.

Now he's gona skate off into the sunset here. Here's the more optimistic take that I believe will actually happen from this. The united states government has not innovated in a very, very long time. But I remember reading in the history books about F D R, how he like basically created like this very powerful manufacturing ecosystem in amErica during world war. And I think what's happening today, there is an enormous opportunity to create massive efficiencies within the united states government, which will have a massive effect on everyone positively. And the in the reason why I think is possible is you got the richest man in the world sitting there being who clearly is has time because he said in pennsylania for two weeks and had paid off.

And so I think the effective, I think most effective human, I think the .

hottest st. Take I as on the noise of twitter, dan prem, who's like the leading tech writer that follows all these, all the tech folks, that he predicts a massive fallout between elon and trump because there's only one main character that can be. But no, we all know trump s has the biggest eagle on the planet. And if on you on right now is getting all the credit for getting him elected, if you go on any social platform, you turn on any tiktok, you turn on any news channel, fox, M S N B C E C N N, everyone's crediting .

elan trumps. Can I turn and say what .

the five is going again? Like we should not be looking at journalist predictions as any sort of like source of truth.

There are like wrong everything, everything. Look at this as last administration.

Anyone that was getting too tired, you're talking about elon.

but he was also a surprise win and he didn't have like the chance to like really sit there and get the money. And IT was one of these things that was like more reactive than proactive. And I think that this administration has been extremely proactive from the very beginning. Every single person that is brought in was like for very specific purpose.

And so I get so so my optimistic take is there's a lot more smarter people around the table that have sensible thinking and sensible views. Um I think you're going to see enormous efficiencies in the government over the coming years, which will have an impact on all of us. We we should have more cash in the bank as a country to provide all the services and all of the needs of our people.

And I actually think we at the end of this, we actually end up in a Better place. And because of the people around the table, if there, those people were not around the table, I would not have this optimism, just Frankly, because I don't think he gives a ship to fix those things. But I think in this case, these people are very mission driven IT.

It's a classic like this is the one thing I like about 3Francesco tech people。 They actually address stone call winners when they want to. And you give someone a problem, they will try to solve IT.

And what you on top with twitter was this, this system is broken. I'm going to buy IT and i'm going to fix IT. And as far he is concerned, he fixed IT. He made IT so that everyone can do whatever .

they want and say whatever the algorithm.

but did like that something that I want to push back on. Because if you look at the algorithm, yes, IT leaned heavily right wing, but the whole country lean heavily right in an election.

So is IT actually more reflective of yeah.

I think that is equally there's an equal chance that is just indicative of how people are feeling verses.

IT shouldn't like I if I want to open twitter right now to be eighty, twenty. yes. You know, four.

eight years ago you opened up instagram. IT was the exact opposite. So it's like the social media. I I don't know the social media platforms really like the best heuristic to like think about this stuff with because all of the algorithms are controlled by whoever in power of the social media platform.

And I think I yeah and I think the the difference is like even if you saw the bidden administration had a chance to give them all of brands to elon so many .

times is a lifelong democrat road.

All you like to do is invite them to the E. V. Summit and said, tesla is saving american manufacturing. Here's a little tax subsidy and keep, keep in, keep, keep on your way. He would not find he's not going to fuck up his business and .

get out of the way of space x and that they, like, purposely made his life difficult. They threatened to put him in jail. I was just like they overplayed their hand lately in the wrong way.

And now they are probably going to get fucked because that he has, like the the department of government efficiency is going to be a very interesting uh microcosm of like how how he actually thinks about the government and he's going to a lot of power. And ah you know from personal anecdotal um stories, somebody who keeps graduations for a very long time. So i'm interested to see .

how all here's .

here's my other positive partake. When you have elon mask working at the federal government level, what do you think that's gonna attract? It's gonna attract the best and brightest people who never thought they'd be in politics are going to be like book.

Elon mask, sign me up for the department of government efficiency. I'm telling you, the talent, we've never we're never gonna have this type of talent in the federal government because we've never had an elon must type figure in the federal government. And I think it's gonna baLance things out in a major way.

And I think all the the fears that people have, look, are they gonna be master potations. I actually do think there is, but he's made IT clear. It's for people that have arrived in the last two years and that have not are just not productive people in society.

It's not just picking up people off the street. If you've lived here for ten years and you have a job and you have a family, they're not doing anything. He's made that very clear in writing that, that is the strategy.

Are there going to be tariff? S, yes, there is going to be terrifying. We figured out how to navigate, and I have never repealed any of the trump.

terrifying. So clearly possible that the terrorists can exist and the U. S. Economy can be fine. So I think some of those things you're going happen. I think the worst case scenario of militarizing and ending gay marriage and changing abortion laws, I just don't believe .

that's going to have the same way that these positive he could be right mean having a native viewpoint should be okay to have too.

Guys just .

pushing back as I have criticism of humans .

policies is going to and .

i'm saying he's he's the bus. We haven't years have been proven that elon's the boss and I don't think it's good.

And well, all the things I A believer that like, look, this is the .

situation point. No, no, ten minutes ago, your point was you just don't know if those things that happen. We don't know if anything .

that these things gonna en, why can you're allowed to do what everyone i'm just saying that I the way that I think and the way I think people should think even if your a democrat is, well, this is what IT is now, this is the fact. So why don't we try to see what could possibly work out or at a minimum just that everything's gonna be OK.

It's just I think that in general, like pointing out just the negatives of any situation is a bad way to go about life. I think the guy was in office. Look, i'm also speaking to myself when trump one in two and sixteen that night, I was extremely bumped and sad and went outside and salt, and I was scared and I thought, oh my but and then really, when I was all over, nothing, nothing of nothing terrible happened.

And I think that, quote, that cheap had that we didn't like the messenger so much. So we didn't listen to the message really resonated with me. And when I was all over, I wasted a lot of energy being negative about things that never ended up happening.

And I just don't think we should do that again. I think we should hope for the best and be optimistic. And if bad things happen, yes, we should you know pay attention to them. But I worried about a lot of things that never came true in two thousand and sixteen. Agree, and I think I don't want to take that time.

And and we've all experience different levels of like frustrations or things you have to overcome. And like at the end of the day, the only way you get through IT is by having that like mindset of positivity. Otherwise it's just it's like debilitating to just Operate everyday living in fear. And I think you you're allowed to take this entire week to be mad and angry and sad. But then next week, when the day the week starts, it's like, alright, i'm in this anyways, my this will take the vantage of the situation because whatever IT is like, if if you just look at the negative, you Operate and fear and you may miss out on a lot of great things that could happen.

And I think just the lesson is that like we worried about the the messaging around trump makes you worry about the worst of the worst happening. And I just that's why even when you said he's on hint, he's whatever I was. My question was what did he do? Not the media, not what people said, not what, because all we can worry about.

elan said on rogan, if kala wins, this is the last election ever, right? You don't think that's fear mongering.

I don't think it's great. I don't think either are not just blaming the democrats.

I do think the democratic you guys are.

Steve.

It's not a right, right or to say IT common winds. Do you believe that it's the last election?

Do you really believe that? I do think this is just my opinion. I even though I think both are guilty of IT.

I think that IT is worse to say. He is hitler and his medicine square garden rally is a hitler rally. And he said, we should put this chain of firing squad and he's gonna kill people in militarized.

I think that is worse than saying that this could be our last democratic collection. I do i'm not trying to compare. I'm saying that it's both stupid and I wish neither of them did IT, but I do think that the democrats use a little bit more charge language like calling someone adores hit. There are over and over and over to the point where people try to kill him using that same messaging on their social media. People are believing .

IT .

mean people .

disabilities. He mock judges. He's done a lot of bad shit.

I am nothing.

He's a moral, a guide post for us all to live by. I'm saying that when he comes to our actual data date life as an american, did any of those terrible threats come true? They didn't. None of them. So even even killed twenty .

million years. So it's like not even really a much of a like even saying like .

someone's going to a rigg future. Democracy is not as bad as killing twenty million innocent people like it's just it's a little artier and now it's this one person who is in office and to all these people they think killer just got in office and I think it's terrible what that does to people's like psyches like I think this is bad like like the democrats should come out today and say, hey, things got a little crazy there. We're sorry.

He's going to be fine. Everything's going to be fine. They'll never do that. But my point is like after this is over, you just leave everyone with this toxicity .

and this .

wear in this exact.

I mean, we also trump also said the election got stolen and and for weeks.

why why are why did fifty million people not show up this election 点？ That's a big .

number to be .

number why .

i'm not a poster have idea.

but fifteen million did not show up. That's absurd that fifteen million people .

did not know what about the polls? The polls .

are just completely .

wrong.

And every, like every who said that what what is going on when you think trump is gonna .

lose idea and florida nates said .

trump might .

lose ford and he went and .

florida gone red for last eight years.

yes, but even miami date county went read and typically it's like blue yeah I think that there is well, you know just moving away from like the negative side. I think there is actually like a lot of things to be super excited and positive. And one is like for everybody in this room specifically is just sort of like the markets are going to open up again like an icon is i'm surprised .

is not fired already yeah um you know to resign today.

save yourself yeah but like the tech landscape is going to be open again. I think with R F K, like having some influence on the fda and stuff, there's like a lot of positive things that can come out to. Um and then like elan has the heroic that I always find really interesting, which is like he always referred to, like delivers travels which if you if you read that book, go liver get stranded on island.

There's a unch of little people who tied down of all these little strings and that's like really that's like a clear picture of what the the government landscapes has become, is just like an arterial clog towards progress. There's so many rules every year. Hundreds of new rules are added.

None are taken away. And so you end up in this place where you can do anything. And I think that that elan is somebody who knows that more than anybody.

If you've heard his like SpaceX story, like he got sued because he couldn't he didn't hire enough asylum seekers. But then on the other side, he's itar regulated and he is working with like sensitive government projects. So you actually can't hire any asylum seekers, anybody not a in a permanent resident.

And so there's like infinite examples of this in government right now, which is like specifically aimed towards that stopping progress in one way another. And I think that it's actually really exciting that we're going to get rid of the tone of that. And like I think the america, all the problems that were talking about um are going to actually see a much Better outcome just because, uh, there's a lot more clarity and straightforwardness and in the things that we can do, which is great.

Yeah I think I think the speed of government will also increase.

I think the efficacy too yeah government is not effective.

Yeah I think that there is plenty of I I the the thing that kills me, I don't know, i'm even coming off, right? The thing that kills me the most about all of this is just the energy that is wasted on all of this fear and anxiety like it's gonna fine IT might not have been exactly how you would have wanted IT.

But if you honestly compare twenty six trump to to bite in IT, I don't know, man, I really do empathy heavily with the robi wade stuff I really, really do. But other than that, I I just IT wasn't a dictatorship. IT wasn't nuclear bombs going off left and right.

IT wasn't all of these things that we were told was gonna happen. IT was all a of our energy. Like I just feel like I was duped and I don't want anyone to be duped again.

Like it's gonna be fine. That's going to a lot of positive. There's not going to be some negatives too. But like, shit man, I just see so many people devastate ted today that it's like.

by the way, I think it's fine to be devastated and be sad and be angry like you everyone needs to like, you know embrace that feeling if that's how you feel and go through the motions. We've all gone through IT, but you know at some point, whenever you get on the other side of IT, like it's take advantage of what's in front of us. And ani was telling a lot of friends who are also like blustering.

I was like look at the other day, like specifically for my cohort age group, take particularly people of families, like really our responsibility, ie s to our families. Um we have to make sure our families are are are can Carry up. We want to also have time for ourselves.

We want to enjoy our friends. We want to take hopefully a tripper to, uh, watch some football, have some fun, have some laughs, make some memories and live a healthy life like ultimately that's like in my perspective of a successful life looks like. And I think ultimately what this election was really about is that what people want is actually very, very simple.

And in order to get all the other things you want, you have to deliver on the most fundamental things, which is just like I want to be able to potentially buy a home or, you know, take my kids trick or treating or feel safe or, you know, not get my job taken by an illegal immigrant, like dozen things that clearly has resonated with people. And I think you just have to message. The narrative just has to change. IT can be attacking all the time because .

it's not working. Did you guys see they went violon social with the and Chris c from two thousand? He could replay that twenty, twenty four, eight years later.

But to me, once again, like my response to that is that should be the democrat. Like what are you doing? Why are you? Why are you replying the same reaction from twenty sixteen? It's like other night, I find myself just so frustrated with the democrats that they missed the mark so much.

And look at the end of the day, like I know there's a lot of people too that like you know, when you call trump supporters garbage and things like that, there is a lot of people that are like, who the fuck is a trump supporter? What the answer is? The majority of the country.

So like at some point you have to take a look at this and say, hey, we are missing the mark and this trump is bad thing is not gonna work anymore. We're not resonating. Like how do we get a different result is just, I think, back when they started filing all these felly charges, we started saying on the podcast, uh o here they go again, there are just propping him up again.

All of these charges are what's going to get him elected. We started saying that and they did they did the same playbook over and got the same result. And the dave ship sonate, because it's the fuck m founded, you know, response.

I also think the the the the big chAllenge is there was a lot was always constant conversations on the democratic party around race and gender and the voting blocks of what democrats expected didn't care about those conversations. So that's also an opportunity, in my opinion, to move on from that and stop making IT about that. Because clearly, like people thought, kill tony was gonna effect in latino.

What IT this is a positive effect. Did he get would get them more votes? Or was that going to be even more without killed tony? Probably so that means the the demographics of this country are shifting more and more la. Tina, there's no problem.

I also think that .

some aspect of IT is that people really deeply care about free speech. And like we were increasingly moving to a place where free speech was not like as welcome as IT used to be, I think that him being able to say that in front of that group, people at A, I got a lot of people resonate with the fact that, like, you know, we should allow comedy be funny. And like, you know, there should be you should be able to say.

what if you can ony and .

I was the right for sure one hundred percent .

should have been allowed and there is a lot of people saying, like, oh, you should have never platform a person like this like, I can't believe you talk about.

No, he should do that at a common set.

No, he, he should be able to do.

Everyone did that choice. He is a consequence of IT. His consequent might be a world tour that sold out now.

Like, I think that there was so much like fear monger around you, like you couldn't be able to say this .

in certain places and I think control the democrats.

the everything is about like even republicans.

New one is my taste.

but the new something can be.

Student guy said, I don't even .

know that I something .

can be .

stupid, but still be allowed and I think that's the argument that a lot of voters made is, yes, that was dump. Trump should have put out a statement distances himself that should have happened, but apparently he should also be allowed to do IT campaign. But that's fine.

And then.

of course, you do that. You think I can do clearly said trump supporters are garbage. They instantly change the strict transcript and lied about what he said. They both do IT. So like, I mean.

politics is a dirty game anyway, when to that? There is no way. The important thing is that we should be allowed to say whatever we want.

And it's like a very important corner stone to like freedom in amErica generally is that people should be able to say whatever they want even if you don't like IT, especially if you don't like IT, because that's what like allows IT like. That's the most important part of a democracy is being able to say what you want, when you want, even if it's not the right thing. Even if it's you know import taste in some aspects like IT should still be able.

And I think we were starting to lose that. I think that people were starting to like really pushed towards you're not allowed to say these things here. You should never talk about these people, these ways. You should have whatever dead named people or whatever. A lot of that stuff is import taste, I completely agree, but you should still be able to do IT. And that's part of what makes this country like a really amazing country to be in, is you can have whatever opinion you want at whatever time, and people shouldn't be able to, like, ruin your life over IT.

Yeah, I think that is a big reasons of my people voted for trump. Is that feeling?

Yeah, I think I think like a lot of people and in in and Frankly, I said this is the beginning of the year. I said the biggest winner of this year will be White males.

I was dead because why .

i'm around a lot of like middle as White .

people who felt like they've been in a cave for the last decade, right? A fear of getting cancelled and a lot of them did. And so eventually people were like. Why are we putting up with this?

Yeah like council cultures fully over. Like after the elections.

hundred percent done. yes. Consequence, I say.

actually like the moment of tony hinchCliffe saying what he said and trump still winning was like a real nail in the coffee .

for cancer culture yeah cancer come which is, I mean, a lot of people say it's about thing. I think it's a great thing because again, you know like it's it's a free country like that's the whole point of the people should say what they want without like massive fear that their lives are are going to because they have a point of everybody should be able to have their own opinions. The government shouldn't interrogate .

in that any kind of way. And the consumers should be free to support them or not. They shouldn't be much so you know they shouldn't d platform. It's like if people stop going to tony and Cliff shows because now they just think is uh, stupid and makes corning jokes, that's fine. That should also be able to happen.

but it's the the market. One thing that I wanted to touch on that I am really excited for locally here in california that and drugs are illegal again. Yes, that's a huge man and london breed got taken out of 3 france to go， which is massive. The da and 3 france ago also got cooked。 Um we might actually .

have like a functional .

society, california, an which is seventy thirty.

So do you know what like you only details of proper thirteen six, like what have what did that change?

Basically, if you're using drugs or selling drugs in an OpenAIr e nvironment, you're basically cooked. And then if you're stealing, I think they take IT was at a thousand box or not and getting taken down til like much lower. I think it's like sub five, like it's like couple .

hundred box now or something like this couple.

And what I just can say.

according to hackman, when he was on the pad, he felt confident that a lot of we would see results .

pretty quickly. Well, yeah, because he said that he can basically reverse nine of the policies just going to on day one, on his day one yeah, and just kind .

of set a precedent. So IT sounds like we might be back in the game here by spring.

No, I think I think that that's like one of the most exciting and overlooked aspects of all of this. Is that like california, it's like one of the best places in the world.

And I was rapidly losing sort of its like luster because of all of these ridiculous policies they were put into place specifically as a function of like the whole sort of like milk and council movement, like everybody was basically just moving in an insane direction with that. And um I think it's incredible that like common sense is returned alert is not racist anymore. Crimes are illegal again.

It's like, you know this is a very important step towards like the progressive future that we want. And i'm just like super, that's what one of the things that feel like a gloss over because everyone is losing their mind about at the federal level, right? Like there was a lot of state level stuff that happened. It's like really exciting and people should be .

really feel positive about yeah IT IT also like IT IT should be a wake up also to democrat party in even in california like you know native hackman uh, republican that who is an .

independent George .

bush appointed his first job as a republican. He changed to an independent because he lives in L A. That's how you get elected in L A.

And so these types of people now are now in in leadership positions to make real change. And so there is a and and the laws that got passed are pretty. And look, the gay marriage thing got untouched.

IT was good. IT was fine. The the, the most common sense things are happening again in california, which is a very, very good science. Like, of course, everyone should build, marry whoever they want. But no, you cannot commit crime like we ve got to go back to base level things. And the democrats party needs to embrace that stuff and just changed the tone like otherwise it's gonna be a fucking sweeping for next twelve years. Like I don't I I said at last week, jay events is like I lock to be president of trump ins.

Did you look at the comments on his a rogan podcast? It's it's basically like, this is the most Normal like and the crazy like you not to take you back the main remedia and whatever again but he was like, they were like, this is the west guy ever, where he is such a weird guy and then he just turns out to be like the most Normal like midwestern and like, do you want to have a beer with like a yeah and I think that that again, and it's just like all these people just overplayed their hands so much. They know that they were much more powerful than they actually were, and people actually cared about these positions much more than actually did. And yeah, you I mean, you got ta lick your wounds after that.

You the part that does feel good to me, you just said is the the common sense IT feels like there's there's a lot of common sense winds last night, you know, like, IT just feels, I don't know, like the way california has been and crime has been like there IT just feels like things have been pretty nuts for a while.

I think in california specifically, because we obviously live here, everyone can objectively said, say, we went over overcorrected, right? Made the city like gotham city.

But i'll be honest with you, part of my fear now, not like the other kind of fear I was talking about, but was like, I don't know, I felt like commonly shared a lot of those same ideologies that LED like, I kind of felt like I saw IT happened here. And IT was a little scary to me that that might happen on a broader scale. And who knows, who knows? What would that happen? We can all play what if? And that's exactly i'm telling you you to do. So i'm not onna do IT, but IT does feel like I don't know across the board just making crime illegal again and making these obvious things feel obvious again feels really good.

And what one thing that on and should be super excited about is this is the most crip friendly group of people that have ever been elected.

And I got a lot to be excited about that. I think that .

generally is just a great thing like we're inflating the dollar away at a ridiculous pace and it's only going to get worse with the amount of debt that we we will. Um people stopped buying treasury ies all around the world. It's like a kind of actually like a very scary thing.

And um just being able to embrace that. One of the senators came out and said that we should build a strategic bitcoin reserve, which is like one of the most obvious things in the world, at least to me. And I think that we like if you're somebody who cares about cyp doll and you know on and has been following IT and and heavily invest in for a very long time, that's like a super bright spot on knowledge is as well.

It's it's crazy to me that Donald trump will end up like the beginning of the presidency. We don't know what it's going to be like that of his presence. Cy, his talk in crypto, we're talk in space. We're talking elon must he did like .

a five minute advertisement for SpaceX last night about how the rocket got caught and is like is like Victory beach was like five minutes of IT was .

just about the whether we we've never embraced innovation at the government level.

I like my my positive outlook on all this is this is actually one of the most exciting times to be in amErica in history. And it's it's sort of removed from these social issues that a lot of people you tend to like really focus on.

But I think that like we're at this like pinna moment for A I space exploration major shift to biotech, like a crypt u like the next ten years if like we really let lean in and let the like super innovative people in this country just do their thing and not try to get in their way. I think that we're like headed for like an incredible cycle across a variety, different things. I think lives will be longer.

I think we'll be able to to explore the universe. I think that A I will just basically make everything easy and functional in the world again. And this is like something that people should be really excited about. And instead they are sort of focused on these, not nuon topics, but like very specific things, and not seen the bigger picture, which is that like we live in an innovation society again, and like the people who innovate, can innovate.

I also .

think it's amazing that for twelve years, thirteen years, every smart well street person, every smart coton cope person, said, big coins, a scam. And now is like part of now, the administration, right?

I think the hard thing to predict there was like what what the government was going to do to the U. S. dollar.

Like nobody could have ever expected that the U. S. Dollar would have gotten inflated this margin. All of these um you like they would just keep printing them. A cover obviously exacerbated this but and then goes very hard to predict that the U S. Dollar would lose that sort of like global dominance um you know and so like you see bricks starting till like a doped coin in all of these other countries are moving off the petra dollar standard and um I think that that was like a really hard thing to predict that IT is crazy that people basically said the coin and all these things were cam.

I was told those in idiot for twelve years.

Yeah, me too.

Well, that was a big win then. I mean, last night was .

a big mart happened .

over time either way so that why in care I don't know.

I don't think that you ever saw once like bite in any part of his campaign embracing yeah so and I doubt the commonly what have either.

So I just have a long term view on IT is like okay in the next four years if he doesn't happen and up in the next .

four yeah but like progress is this compounding thing where every year that you waste not like pushing towards progress. It's like it's like, you know, saving and I like a raf air air for one k every year that you don't save, you're missing out on some massive expansion, al. Gain because of the compounding factor at all.

And so it's like you want these things to happen as quickly as possible, specifically because you want to be around to see the outcome of at all. And that comes much quicker the sooner you start. So i'm just excited that all the the biggest win here, I think, is actually innovation and the fact that like these very technologically centric people.

Now have a say in all of the things across a variety of different verticals that are really important. Yeah and I think that we are like we are the direct benefit years of that in and everybody is because hopefully, it'll democratized. Everybody is cell.

That's exciting. I mean, the fact that look like the fact that IT goes from elan moscow greatest innovator, being an enemy of the government to now he is best friends like IT is caller now. Now he's our president.

He's the shadow president as of now.

That's great. Like this country is so fascinating to me, I don't know how I feel about it's not that. It's like the fact that if you pair our greatest innovator with essentially government friendless ss, what happens? Because greatest innovator plus government enemy, obviously, is gonna really hurt innovation. So when you make IT best friend of the government, I just mean, we might be in person .

really fun time. Think about IT you want did space starlink and tesla despite the U. S. Government.

yes, hating him. So what happens when he has full access?

That forty billion dollar purchase of twitter now looks like the cheapest.

That looks like the cheapest by all of all time. Did you see? Do you read strategy? benton? Son, no.

So today he wrote like a hotel. IT looked like one of the worst purchases now that he runs the government space sex. Tesla, everything this test, tesla went up thirty billion .

dollars last night and I don't even know what to up today. Yeah exactly up eighty today. So we double this money just today.

And I saw wat that to say what you set out and really simply said something like, yeah, forty four billion was such a stupid Price for twitter. All I got was control of all three branches of government.

And all these companies now just get Green light to do whatever they want, I mean, and tax.

When you look back once again, no matter how anyone feels about the guy personally, when you look back on this guys run and he's far from over, IT is the greatest run of all time. I mean, do you're telling me that he arted, he started involved in the trump campaign? I was like, H, I know that know you going to make a lot of enemies. You're gna look a little cookie IT .

worked out for lesser. I think it's similar to people that in two thousand fourteen fifteen that were kind of outsides of the government hitch their wagon, trump and everyone thought they were crazy than they run office for four years. And they might be in china now, but they had a chat.

Long once .

three.

everyone's no, I heard he was twisted at trump to get a part in.

I didn't know he .

was unparted incredible. Like how much the contrarians of one, like all these people who have just like been looked at by society, is like these people who just like are completely wrong, you know, like have no value and anything that they are saying, they always end up or not always, but in this case they've ended up winning huge. And it's like it's an interesting way to, like, live life.

Onest ly is trying to find these pockets of value that nobody else's because if you actually hit them, it's it's investing in bitcoin in two thousand and eight or like doing any of these things. You're just or looked at as like this heretic that nobody thinks like like you know palmer doing defense companies and twenty fifteen at the height of the work, women, all of these different things, so much value. And just like being able to think differently.

And like, again, I hate going back to this thing. I hope that like sort of like implosion of the mainstream media just forces people to think independently again, because you obviously can't trust them. They were wrong about everything.

Every pole was wrong. Every you know, headline that the mainstream media put ford was wrong. It's like the best thing that you can do for yourself in the modern day is have independent thought, like away from what the the herd of mentality is. yes. And I hope that more and more people like realized that that that's where actually the true value as is thinking for yourself.

And I think just to add to that, if you want to be a contrarian, you Better make sure really damn smart because all the people we just mention are brilliant minds. They were able to execute control and idea as Peter theil uh palmer .

lucky ah .

elon and while IT wasn't popular for most of the public, they all thought he was crazy trying to launch rockets. People thought making, said palmer, I was crazy for trying to build missiles. Like those government controlled programs. These guys are also the tories people in the world.

You can hit your, you can hitch to them.

You will be in an .

early employee. Yes, that's IT be be more thoughtful about where you work and who your friends are on where you spend your time. You don't have to be the brilliant one to take advantage of. Iron mask well, or investing in stock.

simple as sure.

I also want to say on a really small level, there is a lot of people like really micro level that were contrarians that ended up being right, like over. But when IT comes to health or diet choices or even the way some people felt about vaccine stuff or covet stuff, like there's a lot of people that in micro ways chose to think for them self and ended up making great decisions. You know, healthwise are on this. So I think it's just it's never been easier to think for yourself because the information is all available, but it's also never been harder because you're just bomb barred with really good content all day that tells you what to thank you.

But I don't if you're truly thinking for yourself, you only really need to be right one time to change your life like all you need to do is hit one of these like you can get nine IT. That's the great part about power law, which is live venture capital. All the stuff works. You need to be right once in a really big way. You can be wrong ninety nine percent of the other time. But just finding that one thing you can change your life for the Better, whether it's across health, whether it's across financially, whether it's socially like all these opportunity is exist in I think people people should uh, be happy that the time is now that you can do this in a way that you don't have to worry about as much blow back for IT.

That's a good, good ending message.

Yeah, positive. You can keep a positive. You your way to misery.

Alright, got to shut out from ten big, shut out to Daniel brill for crushing his first marathon in new york city last weekend with the time of three hours in two minutes. Well, this guys fast. All those months of training.

Pyto of congratulations. That's not an easy thing to do. I could never do a marathon. My needs aren't built for IT. So congrats.

So my last shout out is a to d he's not in the pod room right now. I wanted to bring that up. I just didn't have a chance to because the way the confrontation was going, he texted me in multiple group chats.

Are you sad? Are you sad? Are you sad? Because come lost and I want everyone to go on twenty twenty live election pod, which is on youtube.

He was crying on air. So he was actually sad because he thought trump was gonna win. Four years can change a lot. We will see guys on sunday.