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Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

2024/10/2
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Dylan Patel: 对中国半导体产业的分析,包括人才竞争、技术瓶颈、以及美国出口管制的影响。他认为中国在AI领域尚未实现规模化发展,但具备快速建设大型数据中心的能力。他还分析了先进制程工艺的研发难度、以及AI技术对半导体产业的影响。他认为,虽然美国对中国的出口管制旨在限制中国AI发展,但其效果并不理想,因为中国可以依靠其他途径获得所需技术和人才。此外,他还探讨了半导体产业链的复杂性,以及AI技术在提高效率和创新能力方面的潜力。 Jon: 他从地缘政治和商业历史的角度分析了中国在AI领域的战略,以及如何通过各种手段获取所需的技术信息和人才。他认为中国可以利用其强大的电力供应和基础设施建设能力,快速建设大型数据中心,从而在AI领域实现赶超。他还探讨了中国半导体产业的发展现状和挑战,以及中国企业在技术创新方面的能力。

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A bonanza on the semiconductor industry and hardware scaling to AGI by the end of the decade.

Dylan Patel runs Semianalysis), the leading publication and research firm on AI hardware. Jon Y runs Asianometry), the world’s best YouTube channel on semiconductors and business history.

  • What Xi would do if he became scaling pilled

  • $ 1T+ in datacenter buildout by end of decade

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Timestamps

00:00:00 – Xi's path to AGI)

00:04:20 – Liang Mong Song)

00:08:25 – How semiconductors get better)

00:11:16 – China can centralize compute)

00:18:50 – Export controls & sanctions)

00:32:51 – Huawei's intense culture)

00:38:51 – Why the semiconductor industry is so stratified)

00:40:58 – N2 should not exist)

00:45:53 – Taiwan invasion hypothetical)

00:49:21 – Mind-boggling complexity of semiconductors)

00:59:13 – Chip architecture design)

01:04:36 – Architectures lead to different AI models? China vs. US)

01:10:12 – Being head of compute at an AI lab)

01:16:24 – Scaling costs and power demand)

01:37:05 – Are we financing an AI bubble?)

01:50:20 – Starting Asianometry and SemiAnalysis)

02:06:10 – Opportunities in the semiconductor stack) Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkeshpatel.com/subscribe)