261: A Big Black Slab of Shame
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How do you store your USB cables?

Uh, here and there?

Do do you have like, do you like coiled up? Do you have like vos? Do you keep segregated by type? Like what's your strategy?

Yeah, I thought you talking like a or or where where they all go kind of thing but you're talking to in what form are they stored? Like how how do you can figure them for storage?

First one, then the other is what I masking.

I guess um I have developed a little technique that basically just sort of turns the the the cables stored circularly yeah to say that would be a little if just hold loop I do that ah okay yeah yeah yes around circle and then like each in you sort of like bread around yeah .

yeah I find that to hold pretty snugly and .

also crucially, you're not putting in a like weird they do a .

around like doing to figure out like doing I like I would do like a boat rope with the back and the back and forth and the wrap around also leaves the ends usually poking out weird ways because they like, it's not good. So I I do that. I do the coil around and then I have a docker that somebody sent me as a charge.

Key thing at some point that just holds. It's like my go bag for U. S.

B. cables.

And i'm sorry of what kid adopted .

IT I ah it's you .

put your toilets in IT ah.

okay, okay, no, yeah. What of those? I dd bag is called a dd bag.

I thought I I thought I heard somebody in my life call IT that before, huh? Hang on, i'm coming. Yeah, yeah, yes. OK, yes. You can call IT a dd bag.

Okay, I was kind of the docket. I think it's D O P kit, but I don't know why. okay? A D, O P P, uh, it's a toiletry bag called a toiletry kit, dop kit, bathroom bag, div bags, but bag, toiletry bag, personal hygiene travel kit or wash kit.

Why are there are somebody names for things?

Because we like, look, our country is a alphabet .

soup and say, we stole names .

for things from all over the world. And as a result, let's see, the dop kit is a term referring to toiletry kits for men in world war two soldiers, before later becoming a common term for toilette kids. It's it's coined by leather worker Charles dop. Let, who patented the idea of dos in one thousand nine hundred and got a contract with the army during world, were to go.

apparently thought he was deserving of naming the thing after himself.

I mean, look, you make you invent a bag for your toothpaste, and you get to name IT after whatever you want. But I put my USB stuff in there, and like also my portable batteries, and I was spir watched charger. I have, but I don't.

I reached that point now where the old USB cables are becoming a little scarce. Like minutes. Oh, oh, I only.

only two minutes left. Probably at this point, I was expecting you to say they are becoming too plenty of four to too much clutter or something. But yes, that is the reverse problem when you get rid too much of so you don't have the old thing you need anymore.

yeah. So few years ago I was like, oh, look, I have fifty of these many U. S.

B. cables. I don't never going to use these again. And I checked him in the recycling bin, which maybe still in the garage of, i'm being honest.

but probably I took electrical recycling is becoming a cautionary tale because I am exactly who you before that purchasing process, i'm very impressed all of your USB tables into one up kit or di bag. I've got a gigantic draw of them. But but this kind makes me want to be like me a little more awful ous about the way of some stuff like, you know, maybe, maybe keeping like five micro USB tables is not the worst thing.

So I have this set. I've like two sets of. I kj like those kind of crappy ik metal jorge. The one are like four feet all. And I use them as the place that my mixer and my audio stuff and all that lives away from the rest of the loud computer gear and that has a bunch of jaws and that has like a couple of their exceler cables and extra power cables and exchange gma and display port and um extra of quarter in channel gue and middle cables.

And like all like I have, i'm pretty sure there's a firewall eight hundred in there somewhere, right? It's all the weird shit that you might need, just like there's a draw that has donal. So this like a USB c to firewall dongle in there, U S, B, C to eat net USB c like little USB c hubs and all these other stuff. And then I have like a draw with mice. I needed a mouse s the other day because I needed IT turned out, if you use mouse without borders on a machine that doesn't have a mouse connected to IT makes terrible mouse trails all across the screen and use the mouse .

that's that's odd bug.

I mean, if you plugged in a mouse, you know what happens? The trails go away. So yes, so I plugged in an old mouse, but like i've been using the like I don't break very much. No, and I need like one specimen. Ths.

I don't need three premise got beat fair margin sounds like well.

I I have more like I also have more computers in the circulate. Like because like, my daughter uses a mouse. Now my wife uses a mouse, so I got to have to keep the family and fed mice.

But I don't know, man, I just, I wish I hadn't fun out all those micro U, S, B cables. You should hold them more is what i'm saying. Oh, well, now that I have your permission, yeah, i'm just going to over to your house in micro USB cable.

That's all i'm saying already. You know what? Happy to serve.

Welcome to bread and will made a tech bod.

I will I have a little .

finger on there to give you a little.

but I decided not to I didn't want to bring this up earlier. You've again on the podcast yeah you said flying before we started. Yeah, is a not for answer. Look.

there are words that you only read and you've never heard him, but he say, OK, this is one of those words. All I know is that is spelled fl A N G R. Yeah.

I sure.

Is that what IT sounds like?

IT sure does. And I turned IT off before people .

turn off their radius. I maybe doesn't .

sound entirely offensive if there's something that I kind of pleasant about IT you wanna listen? Do IT for too long.

but IT sounds like like sixties aliens. yeah. Later I feel like a lot of vfx in the sixties, or audio effects in the sixties, came about because people took like guitar peddles that people were hacking together in their go exact. And then when the voice came through.

but people got their hands on vacuum to and started making analog circuits, and then started finding out what was possible. Yeah, all sorts exciting. Where this stuff happened. What you might say, how good direction?

Brad, make words good. Okay.

I started to put a note in the thing to add that album. Instead, you you make a joke about a salt strike. How about what are you at reading the pronunciation guide on wikipedia? bad. Okay, real bad. And you cycled.

I guess not. No, I have to hit the button on google that says.

here's how the robot says you pro a one. Fler got OK going to say that could go either way. I'm actually not sure how to read that symbol.

Uh, yeah, no, this is incomprehensible. This is a thing that, oh no, oh no. That's an example.

Not the way you say. IT, yeah, I don't know how to say that. I don't think I don't. It's like there's A F N L.

I know that's fu and then there's some stuff and then there's an N D, which is and then there's a three like a semma maybe and an eye and end with a weird tail. I don't know OK. That's a note for me.

dog. Everything i'm seeing says soft g sound.

So fler .

the finder, finder one a soft g we talking .

about the podcast this week.

you tell me uncial .

of flours were going to do two hours on this.

This is right. Ranking ranking of ranking of flanger .

renunciations ranking of phonemes go this forty eight in the english language. That's not right.

There's more than that. Some somebody already beat us to the ranking of letters in the alphabet.

Look, there was a time when I was pretty good at the principle guy thinks we were doing the full stuff. We had to um we were doing lip p lip sink and we try to do actually lip mouth, mouths n tongue movements to make IT look right. And IT turned out to be a phenomenally complicated thing and we just got a close .

enough where I is. It's very good and moved on. Sure, i'm sure it's emblems ly complicated. I might crazy or mean, I dictionary and I do system .

that uses something more complicated than the thing that we learned in elementary school.

Yeah, okay, yes, they use the I, P, A transcription system.

How would I be used as that? I P, A.

I don't know. What is I, U, international bitter units? International bitter? Well, okay, I ve been.

I always just work off some like extreme beer nerd thing. I think I like beer. fine. I R, I figured out with something I just didn't care that much about. Yeah, you're right.

International bitterness unit. yeah. So IT gives you an idea of how happy he is going to.

It's like the what's the thing that the the t saw erds use? The scope is reading that. But real scope for beer coal, there's a real scope al inflation problem right now.

My thing is that not a standardized unit. I don't think so. I think once you get over certain amount of hot IT doesn't matter.

That's my, that's my. So once you started having visions when the food hits your tongue, it's not onna make any difference. Come at me, nerds, and it's time at him this week, this week. Speaking of nerds, we we have a pop ery of projects, a project property.

a project property.

And IT doesn't sound like lavender or grandmothers. It's um a mixture of fixing things and doing things lead things. We have learned the hard way over time and a cool audio business.

And finally, we're going to learn about containers because like you and I were both big fans of jail back in the B S. D. Days and I have never taken the time to get good at docker since I switch over the linux for server purposes.

So were going to talk about contain a little bit. What do you start? You start with what?

Start with fixing your monitor. Because that was the site I got to set up for that two, three weeks ago on the page on episode. And I i've want to hear the exciting conclusion.

And for people who didn't hear that page, epo de, I think this is a fascinating topic. And also before we get to my stuff, I will say i've got a little little time off coming up here from expanded. So that's why i've got i've got mostly a list of perspective projects here that i'm going to work on in the coming days, whether you have got some stuff you .

have done already. Thank you. OK. So okay, so I have this ultrawise. It's one of the first LG ultrawise I wrote about an unexpected like ten or twelve years ago.

Wow, it's just still using IT.

Yeah well, it's like my third. It's like my third monitor for the second P C.

On my desk. I'm just done trying to put this in historical context like in anything that you wrote about untested has got to be showing. So my hedge .

this twelve years old um so one day I was IT. okay. Other side note, it's also in portrait orientation. It's a thirty four oriented. I me happy windows eleven finally knows how to handle that, right? Windows can always had problems, whether they would try to make things like side by side, which is not good when you use the windows napping.

So one day I turned, I turned on the computer that attached, I just didn't turn on, didn't make IT like norway makes a little nice, a nice little time bomb. And then IT turns on, and I just didn't turn on after a power of failure. Or maybe i'd knocked the power court loose from the powerful PS up under my desk.

And when I google did IT turned out IT was a fairly common problem in LG ultrawise. And then I didn't have time to deal with that when I was breaking, when this happened. So instead, I just set up remote desktop on that computer and started remote that stopping into that computer I needed and didn't worry about. So nine months later, I find time to butz with IT. And I found so sorry.

Did just say where IT was for that nine months just in earth?

I can't. It's flat against the wall, so it's out of the way. But yes, for the most part of just stay there a big black slab of shame because I will be honest, IT required because it's ultrawise in portrait and kind of it's a little scary taking off the ARM because the ARM is super under a lot of load.

And when I lifted off, i'm afraid i'm going to break my jaw every time I egg. So I like, I don't move IT without need, right? Okay, so I got time. I was like, i'm going to take the same in cy.

What's up with that? I looked at some websites and I found this, a wordpress blog that basically said, hey, if you short out and and this is where he gets a little hinky IT says, if you shut out pince one in pince four on this e prom on the board, it'll kind of reset the the take a effect the thing that's broken on IT is there's an e prom which is a programme will flash from that you have to like hard program not like you can't like program that would stop where the on the firm where Normally right um but what happens is when the IT gets a checks on the e problem that's not good. Even if the contents of the e problems is to o IT puts the the machine into a loop. So the CPU for the monitor is everything as a CPU. Now the CPU for the motor just keep outing and rebooting and rebooting and never never .

successful ly boot ah is that you know is that an intentional fail safe mechanism? Like it's like it's like, okay, the prom maybe bad, we shouldn't because something else might break or I just IT .

doesn't know what to do. This fucked up is general take on the internet is they should have fixed this because later models don't do this is only the first two years of LG monitors. And the way you can get in that, in that fell safe mode, in that, in that a bad, but uh, uh, uh, bad bit mode, is by turning off the power unexpectedly dly. So if you turn me off with the switch or shut IT down with the button, no problem OK. But if the power dies, the power goes out, the motor can not come back to life.

After all. That is an enormous bug.

Is, is, is not and it's not a hundred percent of the time. It's just sometimes.

So it's so good. If you live in florida.

you have a lot more problem with these matters. If you live in california, where powers are really stable, right? So um the this blog post was like, hey, you shot out these to get your get your money meter out and put IT in resister mode and just short out these two things and you're going to send some juice through and and it'll probably flip the bit.

You'll be fine. So I was like, well, that seems easy. I'll try that and pop to open like there's a brazilian chips on the board is on a different place on every monitor the baddy prom, but it's always labeled the same OK. So I flipped through there, and I found the thing, and I spent like an hour a half lying on the floor, the living room, with power, going into the monitor, shorting out this chip IT IT made the bomb sound once, and then I didn't come .

back after that.

I'm sorry. What sound bomb when IT turns out a little time.

i'm sorry, I era the word bomb is an .

explosive no, when the monitor powers up and wakes up in the like my money, I don't fry anything .

as well as well.

At this point, it's unclear because it's still not working, right? sure. Um so I I, I give up after blame on the floor.

My eyes were tired. My back was tired, the whole thing. So I close IT back up, put IT back on the scary mound. I look at the next step then I realized that there's like four thousand comments on this word press blog and I started read in the comments in the comments.

So OK if if you can't fix IT with the shorting out thing, IT seems like that like IT seems like the people who have success with that are short to get not exactly in the way that they say because the the connection connectors, the pins are really tiny. It's an eight pin e prom four on each side and it's it's hard to tell what you're actually shorting because they're so small unless you like magnify es. So this this guy came in like I just here's a fixed I hacked this firm where I fixed the firm where for the monitor so IT doesn't do the thing anymore so doesn't loop IT doesn't stuck in the loop if if the checkout is failed, is flipped.

And you going to download here on this on this wrong side. And if you buy this wrong programmer with a clip that's designed to like pee back on top of the P. A, you only have to disorder the the e prom from the board, or you can go to eban pay ten box for like a body flashed.

just valid checks on to IT, meaning that this could happen again if the power went out again. Or or was this like permanently fixed, like like to revert something that will make this not happen again?

So like the two year adventure of how to fix this top year old monitor, that's the choice you have to make because because the the e problem isn't actually corrupt. It's just the check some bit that's fried. You can just download the you you, so you can get the C H thirty four one a program is what it's called with the S O P A clip. And you can just download the existing ROM from the chip and then my mark, the ROM writable and refresh ed the existing ROM and it'll reset the checks on and then it'll just work.

but they'll going to .

be acceptable to the same power of problem in the future. I downloaded a extra, uh, a fixed ROM and put that on now. Is IT actually fixed?

I don't know. I didn't turn the mother on and off a bunch of time. You see, it's gna break again. But if I get another few years out of you, let me fine. So so you get the C H 3 four one， a programmer thing, which is a USB dongle that has IT, has like a cool leaver actuated mount for these the style of e problem, like the down through in a job.

So I had to go google same because yeah and it's .

also like ten box that looks like very .

cheap yeah I was so so so this is what ended .

up the thing to fix that was ten box, or I could buy the chip for ten box and do a bunch are really fitly sodden ing. And I was like, i'm just going to buy the thing to fix their for ten bugs and clip IT on. So the other part of IT is IT comes with this like plastic clamp that has four connectors on each side.

And you just line that up with the pins and then released IT and kind of sticks on to the to the e prom. And you can you can just reprogram IT right there. That's cool. No, i'm pretty sure this is the first of a flash ROM like this. I don't think i'd ever did a real hardware BIOS flash in the old days, although I have seen people do that like the screw drivers shop because he used to be. If you needed a BIOS date for your old as computer, you would pull the ROM chip out of the computer, take the whole computer in and go down to you like screwdriver shop and and they would hook up a device, probably with a serial cable, I think, to a ROM flashers. You put the room .

in their ROM flashers and they do the thing, and then you take a all that I screw up a flash on one time. Yeah, because just because my remate happens to have the exact same model of other means. Incredible to me, and I was out of town at the time. Oh, no.

you did that with the, oh, right.

maybe not that part on a business trip. Dari, remember, I had held him build a machine, or maybe I had just given him the recommendation of, like, o, yeah, this board has working great for you should buy one. But at any rate, he had the exact same board and CPU that I did, and he was gone on.

And I was like, well, then I remember what I was. I screw up. The bias with that was, like some that might be some custom by so I went, booed his machine old, his BIOS out while the machine was running, stuck mine and and and did a BIOS like a stock bio flash to IT and a watch is fine. And both machines continued put long forever after anyway okay.

so anyway but the point .

is I didn't realize that a like to drive for shops would offer yeah .

the place I used to go would do that for if you did IT was a common thing school um so the the the flash the part of the problem is C H thirty four one a thing is that the flash tools for IT, like he doesn't come with the software you need to flash IT and there's options like you can boot linux.

And just like that flash room is just built in and knows how to talk to this particular chip, which was probably, in retrospect, would have been the easier thing to do. I tried a bunch of kind of jackie to C H three forty one eight programmable applications until I and I kept. The problem I had was they would say they were writing IT would actually I was successful.

IT would check, submit and IT would be like that we're good. And then I won't have written anything. And IT turns out L, G, right, protects the chip, which makes sense.

But if you're writing, if your program writer doesn't know to unite, protect the chip when it's doing the right, then IT wouldn't the right wasn't, wouldn't stick. Um so once i've downadup e prom rider that knew how to do that, I was good to go. Um and just easy.

P C. From there I uncut. Ed, the thing put IT back together, screw all the, put all the cables back in.

Then I think about doing the e prom flashes. You didn't have to have the power onto the monitor when you. So this is the the S O P clip in the C H thirty four.

One a would pass through the power needed to reprogramme the room. So I was like, a lot less scary as a whole, then dumping too much voltage to the little, little prom to try to do. You jump started back to life now that you .

went up trying to turn the monitor on before you really assemble LED IT.

of course. Yeah, I was. So actually the disassembly on this monitor was um not too too bad. There was one screw holding the backlash on than a whole body clipsed lips well and I but I will says their clips are pretty good so they're far off in that they are like you could get a guitar pic under the edge and kind of just give me IT around a little bit at the time and I didn't break any other clipsed taking IT off OK.

It's not the tiny super galaxy clips was designed to be opened, right? But then you did have to open up the internal like like electrical shield box and foot that over and get them get IT. IT was like opening LCD is a little bit less scary than opening C R S because they aren't like capacity.

I mean, I guess there are public capacity in the power supply for this thing. If I had internal power supply, that would kill you. This model has an external power supply. So IT was a little less scary because getting like twenty nine votes or something.

and I can't remember, yes, if I ran everything in my, in my benevolent the ship, vote for me. Yes, of the things, I would unatoned declare internal power supplies only. Well, no.

I mean, there is there cases for external power supplies? I mean, it's kind of annoying to have an extra box in line. They have to put somewhere. But these these monitor ors, i've got i've got extern powerful as sometimes sometimes .

you just want the device to be small. I like the old, I like the old dell where the the power I three ping up the back.

Ah, any cases for both. I think I was to say, as I would be in place, I would all all devices must be dissecting by school, by grow.

What if you want to, to have a really flat T. V. And you didn't want any, you schoolward ds on the back.

Looks can be pretty short.

It's true. That's true. So anyway, so yeah, it's been working for two weeks now. And then to feel .

like the first time I want you press about and heard the long.

And the funny thing is I had to reset all my settings. So the last part of this is, you have, when you booted up the first time, you have to do something, things gonna write settings to the, to, to the. The wear with the setters are stored on a different piece of flash.

Some place. I don't exactly understand why that was, but the first time I did that, I had to do IT again because I didn't do that. I didn't boost the second time.

But once you do that, it's totally fine. I think I think that must maybe it's the settings check some I I don't know what exactly what the situation is. A lot of this is kind of like, you know the monkeys repeating what we do and what other monkeys do and then IT works for them do um yes, I am. What would you have done if you .

haven't stumbled on that comment for read? You know literally .

it's the first i've ever gone to a blog like this in the comments. We're useful because IT was all people who had different monitor or is sharing the roms, the place where they found the firm where and stuff like that. Um and then there was a um a series of like there is Brown hacking, but a firm where ROM hacking side. Let me if I can find IT real quick. Sounds like a dangerous rabat all look, it's not a good idea to do this, but they had a bunch of boot like firm wares from monitors, which is not like, not like real acy do wait.

hang on. I need to go check on this then, because there are still, there are still things about this. I mean, I have two of these identical two monitors there. Still, a couple of things about these motors drive me polian sane to the pointed of somebody hacked where to disabled IT would think about trying IT.

yes. So the the you are, if you have L G moderate is having this problem. Search for L G thirty one mu.

Ninety seven not powering on how to repair this piece of shit and that way of the blog post the name of the blog post. Great that's great. And then the comments down there take you to um sorry for .

everyone's benefit. What is an L G thirty one? M U ninety seven.

not powering on how to fix this piece of shit. I believe only one.

M ty seven.

M ninety seven. yeah. Um IT is found .

a hundred thirteen our world press outcome on how to repair this piece of shit. I I just I want to go check that monitor firm page. There's anything I could benefit from.

Well, I was to say then you can check, you can check for, search for three, six, thirty four a, thirty four one a in the, in the commons, and you'll find a bunch of stuff. Be real careful. Make sure you virus scan any programing to that you use.

Because there are a little like the program ers were, I found four that were really laden with viruses before I got to the one that I wanted. And i'm afraid to recommend them because of that, because like, like, the one that I ended abusing is the same one that was loaded with the viruses just from a different site. Say, yeah, if you're familiar with the linux, that all my advice would be to run the linux subsystem and just use the flash room. Because I wish I had done that. I would have been much easy.

Yeah, actually, I I will say I don't think to .

be yourself lets you access USB devices. So so .

then you probably to actually put on.

yeah, i'm looking for the site with the with the flash roms right now yeah.

that sounds dangerous. I don't know.

I think you can absolutely torture your thing, but that I think is you can read the existing around first.

You can always write IT back, right? Sure that sounds logical.

It's not a one way trip unless you unless you're flash, unless you're bias or somewhere whatever tortures something on the board. And I I don't see the um I don't see the firm where that's fun.

Before I move on, I will save. If somebody offered me a way to disable the auto input, select on these motors, I would all of the ground and kiss their feet.

Yeah, do you have you looked at the service menu? Uh.

yeah, there's a bunch stuff in their V, C, P codes and stuff that I of scary and not be enough to mess with because they're all unlabelled anyway, that's good. That's very cool.

Able to fix this. Yeah, I was really it's it's like the it's the kind of the hardest core thing i've fixed in a long time. So i'll take .

this opportunity to mention very fast. There is some construction occurring directly beneath my feet as we speak. So that has just rap up. I don't .

know you can hear that. Is anything .

in apology? What cooking plans on the monitor, to your knowledge, did L G. Ever offer any kind of like blanket questions asked to make good on this? Or did they just sweep .

under the rug and be like up? Sorry if if IT happened under the warranty.

they would work unless it's like a very long warranty that extremely sucks because .

IT was not a very long warranty.

This is a pretty coastal phil problem to .

have IT elt bad on a monitor that was this expensive because at the time, at thirty four h ultra wide was up fairly IT was like a fourteen and forty two vertical resolution is a pretty expensive monitor at the time. Now IT would cost me to in the .

box to a place that, but still though, I mean, that's just like that. If that happened to me, that is like i'm never buying another L G E monitor or maybe L G product.

I I bought one of these and they sent us one for review, and i'm not sure which one this is. So this might have been, this might have been an early released one even. But IT was a widespread enough .

problem that I was worried. Yes, okay, I could run down some of the stuff. God, you want to pink on back.

And for, yeah, can go back. And for you.

I am talking through a brand new audio c year than anybody who watched our next lander stream on this past thursday, where i've finished, fall out and the test which fell out, fall one. All one. How did you were played before? No, no.

And this lls you, how long you take me to get through all that one on stream? Because I started ted playing IT around the time the T. V show came out, just just finished this week. I think there been a lot of breaks in between, and probably .

put twenty five, thirty hours and to IT. That is right. I never played those. I was into top down. R, P.

G, when I was kid is so, jane, I cannot believe you. Like, apparently they developed in under some arrest or had to ship IT quickly or something. But IT is unbelievably buggy.

Y, I feel like those games of that era are often pretty. Bugging is pretty.

jane.

and a lot of them just came out and then never were touch again to.

yeah that seems to be the case. And uh, there are I don't think how to describe this is going to be like a game developed term for this. I'm going to guess to hack.

Basically, there are other issues about if there are bugs as but are more things like apparently didn't have a lot of time to work on the companion characters. okay. So the companion characters are basically just repurposed in pcs that don't work, don't work quite correctly, for example.

Like I make sense that .

it's for examples. You have to pick, pocket your companions in order to give them equipment because they didn't come up with a good formal way to give your people stuff without. You can also use the barter interface, but then they require you to pay them wall like they want money, even there in your party like it's kind of how as is followed .

to significantly more polish happened yeah i'm not going to ruo k .

mean like realistically I am not going to stream all of fall out whoever it's just too much fall out to stream yeah um but it's going to be a while before even check IT out. I might I might try IT just to see what it's like. But yes, my understanding is the world is substantially more of a functional .

game because I like this is the way of topic a bit I mean, to fall out, three was announced. But thesen, after they bought that right to that IP, there was a huge job war from nerds who were like, do you make me a kind of perfect? It's ultimately and IT turns. I was jane.

They they kept that commonality. I mean, I i'll say actually he was cool playing this games and finding out how much of what I considered to be like core elements of fallout came from original fallout and not veto.

I can see that yeah someone is .

like look and feel things just like sound effects and stuff. And some of IT is core core mechanics and core design elements are like, oh, if I would just assume that the festo tacked that on when they took over, I didn't realize that goes over back to the beginning.

Were there big, giant monsters like super mute and stuff in .

that war is very human, human sized. Ed, yeah, I supermodes you .

find death to the topic.

Yes, bring up. Bring up what the beginning of that dream was. I knew I need to help getting this thing died in.

It's a desert. sorry. Let me back up what and yeah say what the thing is. I bought A D B X two eighty six s largely on the recommendation of some people on the .

discord would look, if you wanted to eighty six, I can get you on right now. I I know a guy.

although I totally do actually I have four eighty six I would gladly taken on um this a is A I guess pending until you ask. It's a channel strip. It's a preprocessing. There are different names for this. It's a little rack out of piece of gear that you run your my form through the dozen bunch of sexy processing on your voice before IT comes back out.

And the upshot is, so I remember when we were in the whisky basement, bini was I K I. I would need a bunch of money to buy this compressor. And the the reason he wanted IT was so that when people yelled into the microphone, we wouldn't clip in exactly why I thought this, which turns out a Normal, Normal business type talking doesn't happen all that much. But in the kind of worth that we do, there's a fair amount yelling .

the sure is yes, also a fair amount. I know there's a mechanical sound downstairs is quite loud.

Hope it's not picking up, not coming through the call.

But the thing the thing also has an always gate on IT. So anything that is like quiet, quiet, like ambient sounds in the room hopefully will get get ted out that's nice as well. Um but yeah clipping clipping is where you are too loud for .

I can't explain that electrically namic your .

recording chain can handle yeah and IT cuts IT cuts the top of the way form off and just sounds terrible.

It's only because some people are really, really sensitive to IT and some people don't notice that at all. It's perception thing that everything else in the human experience that turns out um and anyway.

we do we don't have to go through the entire a chain here you you can build the next understand because we spent an hour I pointed a camera at the front of IT oh, that's funny and we just spent an hour going stage by stage uh, dialing each one is so it's actually I could probably a little little primer on what things like this do um people who know it's got a compressor, it's got A D S R. Hanker and expanded selection with gate.

What is is the hander .

make the podcast Better? You hands how about how I enhance the low .

down and thirty .

percent of the exact the that's not good. Well, really like a bad way. I was a little muddy.

Oh, okay, yeah. And not really. I could well can see these other super well problem out for a far.

Be careful of the bs. The enhancer can bring your like base or travel up effect vely. So how I was say, where does this .

connecting and you're are you lugging this is like you your microphone lugged into this. Yes.

the micro goes into this. And then the line out of this goes into my motor, which is the U. S. B. Audio interface that actually the computer.

you have a preamp plugged in between the mike in this.

there's a preamp in the D. B. X. I did have a preamp. I was using a try and fit ad. Most people, I think, a cloud liter .

in situation.

the club litters little in line box where as the fed had plug straight in to the back of the mike is mostly just a space saving consider. And they do basically the same thing. But ah the D B X has preamble ent, so I don't have to use that thing anymore.

That's nice. Um yeah so anyway, what do you know dialing the thing and is going to be an ongoing thing like we took that initial past making IT sound good. but. I think what I really need to do is record myself. And just like mary, what i'm doing you know is like now I am turning the enhances up to three, ten votes, stuff like that, you know, like hear myself in real time describing what i'm doing and hearing what the effects are, and then just go back and review that and to decide where IT sounds the best.

So when I set up my digital mixer a few years ago, I did, I I had a script that I read, and I would say, hey, i'm adJusting this down and then I would read the script and I compare one to the other .

really easily after that. That's exactly what I took my um which he turns out when you have got time or you don't need to record podcast for a while, you can spend a bunch of time dialing in your podcast thing yeah um it's also rack and multiple or IT is IT is a little rag here IT is IT is a full on when you fall with is of rac here uh I don't if there are there um are there terms for the depth of rax stuff because it's probably only like .

no there are always rax are certain amount I mean I guess are shallowed rax .

for audience allow shallow rax I believe this the depths of this is only only five, six cents but IT is a full with thing .

that's how like my audio, my mixer is black mountain and it's like or five inches .

deep and then just a Normal with and I kind of want to live in on all the time so i'm about to click a order on, uh you can get these little like one one and to you a undermind t like desk undermind t rack, yes, things. So I am going to get one of those. I'm going to get a one, you one of those and I can mount this thing under my desk on on that.

I twenty. I was looking those other day because there's a spot over on the right side of my desk where I could do that and have my audio stuff just hanging under the desk totally.

You know how I am about having a tidy desk, so every everything is mounted under.

So I worry about the power cables. The power .

cables cross specially. Am seeing what looks like maybe a tiny bit of interference on my recording right now.

But I don't think anybody to hear baLances plus pay extra three dollars those baLanced to orter .

inches um and i'm here and i'm going to stop on a smart plug so I can and try that in the homely stem so I can turn the thing on and off for my stream deck ago so so .

speaking of smart plus, oh, I feel like we talk about this and this is the problem with talking and doing a podcast. And talking about the same things off the podcast is sometimes I can't if we talk about that when we are doing a podcast or if we just talked about when we are talking about stuff.

I know I know you share this screen with me at some point and showed me some of these gages, and I commented on them and that might on recording at some point, but I think you can probably add more death here.

Yeah, just going to just hit really quick. I got a bunch of T P link smart plugs um that are like it's like twenty bugs for a four packs.

Their five box each is super weird. I literally pack of a smart box only box in my cards yeah and and .

so they do power monitoring as well as on off OK. The ones I bought were the home get ones which are the ones do power modern? I think the other things do as well. Some of older ones do not. And i've been using them to track how much power like my server and hold lab stuff is using.

Are those, i'm sorry, you can just just because I have been researching, people might want to know, are those the casa E P twenty five? By in a chance.

I believe.

let me the E P twenty five. I then again, I was just going through this this morning. Those those are the ones that do uh, like energy monitoring, and I believe the E P tens do not.

Those are just a simple of ones. Yeah, the E P twenty five is his home. Kids supported does energy monitoring.

So the ones I got over, the ones I have twenty twenty two model A E P twenty five people, which the people this means it's a four pack. Um you can also do energy monitoring on their smart power trips, I think as well, which is like the kp three o three is a surge protector with three individually control outlets in some U S B parts. Um the U S B port I don't think are controllable for this worth, but anyway, so I set this up. I set up a dashboard in homes sisters, which I hadn't really done before with the plugs that are the relevant plugins. And it's it's been super, super useful um to know how much power i'm using on .

the day to day and OK yeah I will say I think I think we touch on this.

That's also I have two servers. I have the next server and which is a low power CPU in a bunch of hard drives. And then I have the other one.

Yes, that's my whole machine with the hard drives and everything.

Yeah, it's interesting. The power managment stuff homeless, just in general. I hooked my P, G, E up to IT so I can see how much power i'm using men to moment from P, G.

Oh, it's thirty six killed. What hours right now, which I think the car must be charging. But anyway, yeah, it's it's, it's been it's nice to have a sense of how things are going in terms of power usage the moment.

What do you mean by P G N A thing? Can you actually monitor your usage and real time?

Yes, so you can hook your P G, N, E back and up to your home assistant. Now, just by logging in.

Oh, like a wait. Is that is something on the cloud server early hitting an API to this is not the box on your house is what I mean.

you do that too, but you have to put a you put a clap around in the where the power comes into your house or you have a smart panel like a lot of times. Would you like solar and battery installs? You will have a smart panel that can route and flip up on and off as a needed um and and I say looks up on off. I don't an individual circuits. I mean, if you like, you could set up a panel that connects your batteries in your solar so that if the power goes out, IT cuts off the outbound power so that you're not electrifying line line workers um but yeah so you can also just do that without the clamp now because P G A provides A P I access to your current use of gas and and power review of smart meters.

Okay, that's cool.

Yeah it's very good um .

but kind makes me onder if I should get the energy monitoring plugs but I don't think I need that. This is just for toglet things on and off.

So but the energy modern plugs are IT not more.

It's like maybe two three dollars more per plug. E IT looks like the .

E P twenty five were the full pack of p twenty five is twenty nine box, 2 box， yes.

thirty box for the energy modern ones and twenty for the non.

I think I got a on these go on sale fairly well right now there forty percent off. But i've think I got looks like I got them on november of last of two years ago, which IT permai me think IT was probably black for anything.

No, your home assistant, yes, this is this kind of .

ties into my next project.

But i've i've been thinking about wiping my home assistant config and completely reducing everything from the ground up. Is that a terrible idea?

Um e yes.

Am I going to have to? How much am I going to have to on board back onto my wifi? Again, everything should still connect, right? Doesn't typically live on the device.

let's see. So your wife will be the same. It'll still work, but your devices will still be connected, but you'll have to rebut but mean, okay, I guess the question is how many of your devices use like standard interfaces, right? Like like zip your matter and threatened all that stuff? And how many are using some internet shit thing and how many are connecting directly over your wifi, over your I P address? There are all.

Everything is wifi. So if that's the case that all you'll have to do is reconnect your the the individual integrations and then we detect everything. And if you have to do some surprising thing with them.

you'll have to do that. Okay, interesting. I mayor may not do you that I not sure i've got some deeper on the system, these stuff that I want to do. I I mentioned a quick when I was researching the stuff. I saw some people were full on going to the links of getting a second access point for their interview things, stuff.

Now I mean, there is present cons for that, right? Because the the problem, if you do if you do that with home assistant, then you won't be able to do like your media. You want your media players to be on the same network as your phone and all your other things, right? So you can use the software remotes because I use like the apple T, V remote that's built into the phone constantly. I used siri to talk to the the dle T V all the time, right um but then if I do that, that I would be able to put pipe media using home assistant to the apple TV or to the home pod s or near that stuff. So it's it's a little fraught honestly like you can do vils, where are you put on the bulbs and all that stuff on one vian, but then your home assistant has to be configured to live across both feelings if you want to use the for media stuff is .

the kind of all the that mean more of the opposites there that solve any kind of like time sharing problems, right? Where you have got eight hundred smart plugs, es sharing time on the radio with actual voices .

you care about yeah if you have a modern access point in this is multiple radio full through you do not can use on wifi anyway. Now I not worth IT I don't think gets worth the overhead or that power. The the the thing I do think like the oldest ly, the thing is going to bite me is i'm going to find out I P addresses my and IT ns change. You say that, but okay, a lot of configuration .

a of configuration changes. yeah. And to be fair, yeah I should .

be changing the D, H, T, P server, but i'm sure it's give me more complicated next. I bet there's a budget stuff that set up static ten .

years forgotten about that will happen yeah anyway, fixation creep where it's a problem yeah anyway, the reasoning on the system there, and maybe redoing that is that I am going to finally try to contain a eyes over this break.

I homicide. So, okay, i'm generally a fan of containment zone. I think that homesites m is the one place that I don't like IT.

I also have a fair number of matter. And a beat devices float around still no. And getting access to the radios inside the containers fought.

yeah. Well, I i've done a fair amount that already I have passed devices through two containers. I I do a form of container zing or time, my things like docker, things like no ways to ways to encapsulate services like come assistant or plex that you run and self contained little box rather than installing them directly onto your device yet. Um I do a form that already, if we thought about at many times, like you mentioned, the the jail on to and B S C world yeah of the container dd in that's running much, running the full I can nit stack and everything of a linux machine which is no that doesn't actually take that many resources. But IT is kind of a lot.

It's too much. The problem isn't the resources is is the overhead as .

well as its mainly is the configure, like you have to go in and manually configure everything on each each system container.

Yeah yeah I I mean I M, I mean, the human overhead.

not the computer overhead. I supposed to just get a, the image and tainan separate. I mean, there there are things to deal with there as well. That's not exactly that's not exactly like a fully automated process either.

But the problem with running home, a system inside a docker container, is your docker in docker because homework system is essentially a bunch of docker containers yeah under the hood really all of the all the integrations or docker containers really that police told this when he was on the pocket. He talked about that how they solved the plugging problem. That's why they don't have that's why that's why everybody doesn't have update their plugins every time they update home assistant core to to use new, new back and stuff is because everything's docker containers.

And I just kind work and help about offer docker image. So I assume it's IT IT works functional enough?

Yeah I think I think it's just IT depends on how you use him like I use homa size ant as the home for everything that's always on in my house. So like my wire guard installed runs on the home assistant as a home assistant plugin, right. Um so I wouldn't want that to be inside two layers of containers zia.

I think but I am no stranger to having the past hardware containers, the past the quite device and make jelly fan do hardware you times code. I had to pass a fuse device in just a virtual file system who to get our to work in a container anyway.

So what are you going to .

put in the containers? I mean, every that i've got running anywhere homesites m plex and jelly fin, which is that music that are play, oh yeah, music server, maybe the unified controller, if I care enough.

the I run my unified controller a in a container. I run couple other things, but it's nothing, nothing. It's all that run the the linux games ever managers running in docker, I set up portail er a few weeks ago for the first time, which is like a red front end for managing your docker containers. It's very good. I highly recommend them.

This kind of a big topic. We've probably going to do a full epsom about containers I fully up speed on. This is probably Better safe for them. But I here in the notes, docker of versus pod man. Yeah, because because I I doubled with A A few weeks ago and I actually spent a lot more time with pod man, and I did with docker.

This is what what is what's the difference from public and docker?

Effectively two different systems to do more or less the same thing. There are a lot of nuances there. Pod, and came out of red hat OK.

Like if we really want to get into IT, I mean, this is probably Better safe for that abode OK run a demo in background IT doesn't that has a has a program running at all times to monitor your containers and manage stuff and there are outs and bounds to that. Like is that ever actually relevant for a home use? We're probably not, but pod man is is is demolish or servers list. There is no gotch. There is no thing running in the background constantly to they use the same containers to be clear .

like so you can run a docker container and say, ah the benefit of docker is that there's docker containers .

for freaking everything. Fact, they are even command line tax compatible. The man literally in fact they they say red hat says flat. You can just alias the pod man and excuses to docker and just go back your business like like there is like a drop in replacement. Basically there are lot of nuances, the configuration ation that are different itself.

But gotcha, the poor training thing is much more surface level IT just gives you a waiter download and like you can say, hey, go download this docker, a docker make file from book, build file whatever from from the docker repo and IT does IT and sets IT all up for you so it's to approve which I like. And anyway.

i've got i've got a couple of the ims, one with docker, one with pod man that I I started dabbling with, like I said a few weeks go, but all i'll dive in and with both of them in a sandbox environment and see which one I like Better. And then I have to start working ring about all the port mappings and stuff because of the way containers do networking versus the system containers have been using in the containers.

The way the containers do networking. Is that weird thing? I I liked the free B S D. Jail methodology, which basically gives each container, each jail got a toy I P. Address and showed up virtual .

server on on your land. Each container is its own full .

computer effectively IT was really easy. And also, like browsers and computers.

understand different I P addresses Better than different ports the door. Instead, you're using the one I P address of the server, everything running on mapping different ports, yes, for different services, which is kind of a lot to handle. I also, should we just move on to the next .

thing that well I was say the other thing i'm running locally is is um is um per force for for the game that i'm working on. I'm not like a toy game that i'm working on. I and so I don't have to pay back in the class different that and I was actually looking .

into what I would take to self host your sort of blue sky, what they call the P. D. S. oral. Oh yeah, there of data server, they all should not self host that I don't think i'm going to do. I looked at instructions .

point I mentioned should we move on to my .

next thing and I kind of ties directly in here like friday is coming up.

Yeah, it's it's, it's what everybody buys.

the things that's right of the things that I hadn't considered buying on black friday, where services rather than goods.

I buy adobe every black, right?

Yeah, like stuff like that. I just just never really cured to me. I think it's I think I am ready to have a virtual private server.

I think a digital ocean line. I old, however they say my kind of thing. You a little, you know, basically a little cloud instance, a little vn in the cloud that somebody hosts for you. This just kind of a fun, generic linux machine.

and you can do what everyone with I used to run. This is what I run the matter on and on for a long time. But what I was just private before we made IT for the whole tech board, the way there's a tg pod master on instance that mastered on content that town I think I massed on anyway. Yes, um the um uh the the linos are like for five bucks a month, you get like a little it's like two two gigs are RAM or something slice of a server with one core two cores or something. It's great for running light weight stuff.

yes. So that's that those are of the types of spects i've been looking into. And again, i'm going wait and see what the pricing does for by friday because stock pricing is maybe a little stiffer than I would like to pay for.

Yeah yes. And that stuff IT seems like a lot of what you're looking these days. Yeah like like you said, IT is usually like one to two cubes of RAM.

A lot of on the CPU side, a lot of which you're looking at is shared CPU resources. CPU, I like your instant is basically just A V M on a server with bunch of other people's vms, and they are kind of all sharing available C P, U resources. But if you're not doing anything super heavy.

that's probably on so I think I set up set up origin for a photo server, which is a kind of unity game networking server for food, which basically just works like a repeat. So you basically connect all of your host to that I P address, and then IT just repeats everything that get that each one sends to all the others. Yeah um it's really easy networking, assuming you set up the stuff to get sent right now.

The um the IT wasn't great for that. Like that's a pretty light weight survey wise compared to like say like a valued server that runs like the entire state of the game on the server, then dolls out the importance top of relevant clients. Um the the but running like A V P N I ran A V P N iran, an an G P outgoing V P N I proxy that could come back into my house. I have opts on my neck k thing and that was good.

That that is about ninety percent of why I want to get this as I wanted .

to be a proxy in to my house. So so how to .

serve the public? Not available at the V P S, not at my home anymore. And then so my public I P is not super obvious .

that sense.

I guess I haven't looked into this too much. Sounds like this is how people would do this a lot. Like I would basically just tune all the G, P, S, to my house over something like war guard. Yeah, you'd set up a .

permanent tunal between this.

And then how this ties back into all taino stuff is I probably finally, this is a lot to take on for the. Like we can have. I don't know, i'm going to be go through all of this for a while, but i'm finally going to set up a reverse proxy, which helps with all the kind of port mapping stuff we are talking about with containers.

Oh, right, which basically will let you, instead of dealing with a bunch of port numbers on I P address, you can say, like, like, start bread dot com and have my bread dot com. I wish, I really wish, actually, what I really kick myself as a socker of people to discard about somebody registered the bridge should you make your dog calm back? And like a late twenty twelve, oh, no, I easily could have gotten that.

Oh, bread. Have to be fair, I don't think I owned any domains. And twenty twelve, like, I was just not in that pipeline, but I ve really now the blue guy is a thing, and people are starting to use personal domains for their user names. I really wish I .

had speaking of, I set up a blue sky for a tech pot IT. You can follow the tech podd doc content .

on town brisky. It's it's refuel over there that I think we may revisit that topic soon to once once the influx of users dies down. I'm making the transition. I'm pretty much almost fully swish over at this point. Is a lot learn there with like custom fees and stuff that people are doing with that, that has with the feature set that we might dig into at some point I .

was going say there's two parts of IT, right? What is the interesting thing is that it's programmatic. That algorithm is, is you can choose your own algorithm basically, right, which is really cool. You can even roll your own algorithm you want, but also there is a some call back and stuff about how the servers working. How is like how they make IT portable so that you can move your blue sky self from what's ever to the other?

And and crucially, finally, now gaining what seems like the critical massive users they needed for IT actually be worth using as a service .

million users a day for the last few days.

crazy. Imagine it's a tying to. So the .

rivers proxy would help me again .

can to help you map your services too easy addresses yeah not this easy is bad com but it's a good example you know yeah um that is a lot to figure out and even the question .

of like that you .

should be i've already got existing White guards set up here, so I would really not be hard to adapt that to this. okay. And just on all I run. Why go on a red berry pie four right now? Because my radar, you write my rattner is not fast enough to do any kind of this. Put for one go also, ubiquity has broken half of the feature set on this router at this point, but this should be a little point to V, P, S at the spy time for .

open and spread.

Absolutely, that is other topic. The only reason I have not bought one of those older like in one hundred boxes to make my new router. And this is probably a good long ways off. But I cheap hoping that with everything until has going on with like luna ke and like the massive advances they are having in their mobile processors and how good those are turning out lately, yeah I kind of kind of trying to hold out for the next generation of their sort of funless in bedded excited six.

I'm really excited to see what what lunar like ducks look like.

That's exactly like because even these these twelve gen these older liones uh are party killer yeah and not imagine how good the next generation. Um there's there's questions about like do I run the reverse proxy on the V P S? Or do I run that on in on on hard ware in my house? Like i'm not sure yeah yet what the best, most efficient way to handle that is bully.

No, no. I have one more small thing that I did OK. I my stream machine.

I I found out why my second P, C wasn't updating from windows twenty two. H two. Oh yeah.

two, two, two, two. No.

I was looking at twenty two. I was like, this is to be a problem because it's reaching end of support for eight two. So yeah, and IT was because I at some point I updated the BIOS in the T P.

I got flipped off. Oh, so windows was seeing IT. Windows eleven was seeing IT is not compatible with windows eleven, so I wouldn't do any further upgrades.

So I fled the T, P, M. On and then IT wouldn't boot anymore. Nice in a way that was seemingly unrecoverable. I has now .

that's a trusted platform.

I I really tell you, I was fairly I write. So I turn the S S D out and I put in my S S U S B to N V M E adapter. And I copied the files off of IT that I was sure I needed, because IT has a backup, is nice to be safe.

Then I kicked the city and just installed windows twenty four eight. I turned out the tb m. Nuke, the S D install, twenty four eight four, which took like ten minutes, which pretty nice.

I was fast, and I managed. So one of the this is a machine that I basically just use for streaming stuff at this point. So IT has O, B S. And software for my mixer and a witch boy and a couple of the things on IT. Nothing major.

And one of the parts about using O B S, if you have like overlays and things that have graphics and stuff like that on IT, is it's really, really, really important. You save all of those files that are referenced by O B S in one folder. And if you do that then because like if you save a profiles or save a scene collection in O B S, those are the two ways you can kind of save your settings profiles.

And seen collections are like a set of sea scenes. Basically, IT doesn't actually collect all the files that are referenced in those scenes. So what you do is you save all, you put all of the things that are in the scenes in a folder called O B S stuff.

Put that in your, in your profile folder in windows or linux are back care of her, and then you grab that folder and then when you when you load the XML for the scene collection in the profile back and k, we're missing a lot of assets in new point. O, B, S at the folder that has all the crap in IT. And IT just starts working again now theoretically, when we had gym on three years ago to talk about O B S on the false parties like we're working on a profile migration thing that will just copy all your assets and stuff to make IT still hasn't happened.

So fair of sorts. I mean, priorities. I can donate.

O, B S. Maybe if you want that to .

happen faster. absolutely. The upshot is, by putting everything that one folder, I was able to make that transition about a ten minute process inside of something to really recreate a bunch crap.

Now, are you doing portable O B S as well?

No, I don't do portable O B S because it's a junky in ways chAllenging on well, because here's the problem is if you put even with portable ABS, if you put all of the files you need in that portable O B S folder, if references their hard location on the hard drive rather than like in relation to the root of the portable install drive. So IT doesn't give you the benefit of having a portable .

install oh yeah that that's just that's for seen and figuration stuff more than yeah encoder back and stuff and makes an easy to migrate of your settings, not so much the assets.

but all of the settings are just saved in your local updatable sash O B S studio or something right? So anyway but yeah, that was up and working in no time I mean, to get voice meter out of my pipeline for video stuff, which is exciting. And um the only thing that was weird was I had to install V, L C so that O B S would see V L C play this as an option as I use us for like press am reals and stop like that with the old clubs and stop like I wonder.

I wonder if O B S must be hitting some libraries in the V L C install.

I I I assume that V L C once I installed B L C IT worked. I wonder if I think B L C has one of the total options to install V L C playlist plug in in O.

B S. And IT does you go? Yeah.

I was pleased with the help pass. I came back. The only hard thing was like to recreate my steam decks, settings, stream deck. I may loved .

that I ve ve had issues, but I got to the software we talk about. But I I have lotted algo to and their streamed x system before for this one thing, which is this very nice, elegant profile exports for the front deck that makes IT quite literally. When you install the street next software on new machine IT associate the extension of this profile got stream or sexy. Yes, I got stream deck or something quite literally. Double click the file and IT .

restores your entire stream profile credible sometimes to stream .

that yeah I I get that I yeah I am still on twenty three h two. I have not pull twenty four yet, which is only twenty, not exactly out of india. But i'm kind of surprised at this point that they have not pushed twenty four to me.

Hit you if you I mean, it's the Normal thing where if you have weird hardware and they're not going to give IT to you until the hardware is supported.

when I got some weird hardware and have got the twelve year old melanocytes in the machine ong .

other things yet that that will update your drivers. Sometimes updating your drivers for soft will trigger the install.

Yeah, I mean, i'm not a hurry. Like I feel like windows of days have have been pretty boring. I feel like there on the twenty four each two feature list that I about.

Honestly, the nice thing about four two is that you cannot install copilot out using a bunch of registry. That's nice. Yes, that's yeah that thing for me. Rock wick.

we won't get too deep into this, but I have this mass here, the server, whatever you want to call IT your real .

brave for admitting in public just stuff people are onna roast .

you I know I know this is embarrassing. Uh that was on true as for ages you know we talk about this annoying um that we love to us um but true as has a unch of nice built and automatics p shooting like back up utility stuff like they they just put IT all on the web. Eye is very friendly and easy to set up like regular automated .

backup PS me exactly, I guess. If you have multiple drives so you can do backup PS with trash.

doesn't do default or or you can do IT to export machines, you can in their case, they want you to be run in through on the target machine as well, which is not great.

Ah you can do Z F, S, A clown a petition .

yourself.

People chawing up to my house is a love podcast.

Anyway, long is short. Turn has made IT pretty easy to just have to say, you know, snapshot every hour and every day and like, you know kind of automate the regular backup process you would like to have on a large store of data.

Yeah uh.

so you you may remember I switched off a trina and went to just a bar of linux install. Yeah quite a while of you know people are going to a be really upset about this brand.

September of twenty twenty two is when I dumped to turn us and just wanted to regular linux and did I started doing everything myself on this machine yeah, uh, about three months later, in november twenty twenty two, I thought a nice for a external USB hard drive enclosure like one. But it's a useful thing to have if you want to back up a big computer, right? Ybor, is Y, B. A probably probably wed IT back.

We talk about IT a long time ago.

Uh, I shot four drives and put him in there.

Yeah that the next step of this process and then then you're like one step away from having pretty good backup PS ready to go all the time.

right? O okay, look at my defense. That's a pretty big step.

I mean, I would you say when you .

no longer have the the appliance software doing all the automation for you and you have doing yourself, yeah it's a pretty big step. So then I proceeded to never actually started snap shopping or backing up anything.

Oh, no bread. This hard drive .

enclosure has just been sitting here with hard drive. And I fiddled with IT here. There the problem.

I just never have time to take this project on. Yeah, I I made, I made A Z F, S. Pool on the external drive. I've hooked IT up. I fitted around with a little a bit like I started go moving in that direction but i've never actually fully automated everything and then started having my nest, started taking snaps, shots and um ultimately I want took the thing in the very pie on the other end of the department and start backing .

up nightly to that oh no, I think I think that's a good strategy.

You should do that in theory. Everything I planned here is fully sound. I just haven't actually done IT.

Look, I think I think that this is um this is the situation that we all that happens to everybody on some stuff, right? You get busy. It's hard to remember that you supposed to do something. God.

and I just kind of keep finally putting IT off and just ignore ing the problem.

Look, I was kept you the benefit of the doubt there.

Okay yeah anyway, um I am going to put some time and the finally starting to back my ice up back that next up yes, I know at least i've got pretty good hard drives in this thing and nothing has failed in the last two years.

So I had an interesting thought as you were talking about this because I was like we pay for google apps for our domain. How much space do we get .

with that um you talk google like goole workspace are the google work space yeah you corporate gmail and calender not that much.

So I think it's like I think we get kind of a lot even thinking was kind of a lot. I am looking now to see what .

designs do you have on IT. Well.

I was talking about maybe backing up my nest to that.

Oh, I don't think it's that much space.

It's probably cheaper than buying the hard .

drives every five years. I don't think it's that much days. I think we're talking we're talking like tens of gig bites best.

You think it's tends to that? I was absolutely.

absolutely no way. We absolutely are not paying the money to get terabits of regal storage. No, no chance. I bet it's somewhere between like fifteen and thirty gig.

I mean, I could save everything that's not my blue rips on that though count shared. so.

Ninety for next lander, but I assumed there was more .

there because we're paying for more seats. No, I think .

it's you .

get a fixed amount .

til you move to the highest of yeah but how would you like I would you mount IT?

What would you use to .

transfer to IT?

Use a drive.

Specific shares are more less at volume of a google drive like like it's a local drive, but there are some idio synergies to look out for.

Yeah because because the thing about um the thing about how I use my nas is I have like a bunched stuff to script media and like if that gets I bet that up, but it's just back up to a single electron al driver occasionally. Um the other stuff like there's a couple of personal folder ders that have like important fight. It's like my shared so kind of local drop box is what I use IT as.

It's just like my my local dumping grounds folder. And then there is a bunch of backup PS of other computers on the local land. Those don't need to be back up um and and like photos but they're already picked up in the clouds.

I can not care about put them up on some boys so yeah I know I don't know. interesting. I want to tackle here.

How much of this is actually going to get done? Stay ude. Well, if you have thoughts about .

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And I also teach to the monitor effects, which you get to your phase, one of the money effects, which is the real scary part that a lot of people had feelings about the wisdom. But IT, as I pointed out at that point, that was a completely dead monitor. And you know, you take the chances um and and if you want to get shared on the punch, you can sign up for executive producer here where we think of every those cos every month including Andrew salop y co, Jordan lip bunny, vee twinkle twinkle, David Allen, James cammack and pon, makers of the H. S. Three high speed three printer, I gotta say, friend of the show, cashle hari posted, he got a new three hundred in the other day, and he he posted, I can't believe them up and running fifteen minutes after I took the sign out of the box, making his first print well, which, like the first time I built a three, penner took fifteen days to get number.

was the maker about .

the raining maker, cupcake?

I believe I now you mentioned, I remember that thing sitting there, kind of half assembled for some time.

If we we broke some stuff and then had to go get some specialty parts places and had have some stuff mailed to us, that, that was a process .

is casa and experience renter.

He is I think he is A A journeyman. I think probably not of out cash ore, but I have .

just a just kind of got there have .

gotten pretty good. I M so I I might have to check out three banner. It's been too long. The pain of the last maker board has finally faded.

Remember I was like, so let's jump back into the into the boy once more, but that'll do a press this week. Thanks for listening, everybody. We hope you have a lovely, lovely week, and we will see you next time on the check point vibrating.