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They were recording at night. It's weird.

my test. I I most got trapped in my house today, man, what they're dig in up the suit in front of my house. I've heard like literally, I assume like as soon as me mutton, because somebody that I have to dig up the gas lines too, because they're also the same age of the zoo lines. And I assume that the solar lines are bad also. That means we have gasoline problems in the future.

not what you want. How the gasoline problems went from theoretical, who terrifically real.

remember about the night of the life show, big life .

shall years ago, IT was one of the IT was september .

either twenty ten or twenty eleven because I was we IT was literally the night we recorded the big live.

live show. I remember distinctly like kind of being done with a big live, live show. And like, everybody was like, crack open a beer celebrating. And then I go, did you see this news from sambo?

Yeah, that's just over the hill from my house, you know? Yx, like, like, like, I can hike there.

That's like that is like such existence, al terror, that you might just want. I even think about IT because it's so unpredictable and unstoppable if that happens. That talking about a gasoline explosion, yeah, not material called open ever.

No, but but well, yeah, that was bad. IT was the blue of a good part of a block, basically, but the surely was just a mild inconvenience. So they were, are supposed to start working like this is the kind of civic thing that annoyed me, right? Because we got a note on the door, like three days before this happened and they were OK, we're going to doing some work on your street.

We're going to take up all the street parking spaces, which doesn't affect us because we have one car. Sounds like that's fine. They're like if you can not run water between eight and five, that would be convenient open and I was like, okay, so no between eight and five or .

happy to live if .

you do somebody who's gona get the full of you, that's fine, I don't care. Um and then and then they're like but IT shouldn't impact like you should we get in out all the time? No big deal.

I really like that's okay. That seems like mayor. And then the each day this week when I needed to go out, it's been like we're got to move like four back hoes and a bunch of pipes and truck. And I feel like I ask all, but also they didn't tell us like I would apart on a different street if IT was a problem except there's no street parking because it's specific, every has too many cars. So anyway, i'm i'm grub prisoner .

in your own home.

I look, I went up, I went out this morning because this post to started aid, and I moved out seven, fifty five to move the car. And they had already blocked off my driver as I came. And you ve got to move the time I got to get out.

That's just uncool .

yeah like you're five minutes early. It's fine, whatever, but moved the and .

pipe I don't want to hear anything about IT no water between eight and five and .

I think specially don't put anything in the sour between eight. I so like you, I took a shower. I, I, I plus the toilet OK. I set up a gift. I, well, I expressed my displeasure the only way I know how with fees.

Welcome to brad whale, bea tech pod. I'm, well.

i'm brad.

Yeah, to help a cold open.

huh? That's right.

This is nigh time. This is this a tech pot after dark.

Things get weird after dark around here. Very appropriate. Not very proud.

I think what I was walking back from PC today at home don't often do so. It's of a hike from their office to the bar station. But um I think I saw a basketball team leaving the that hotel on second street. They had a second street and going down second to go to a to um um the chase stadium because like they had a whole police can voted and then there was a bus like a charter bus.

We talking like a professional basketball team.

I would assume if they're playing the warriors that was a professional basketball team OK. I don't know who I really see if there's a word game tonight.

And i'll tell high, high school team .

don't have charger.

but I guess I know I know they get the activity bus yeah I mean.

look IT, yeah you get you get the school bus. The windows are all down, these kids hanging out the windows. The whole things are on wednesday, october thirty, oh, at seven P. M, the norlands pelicans played the warriors. And sometimes just go at home.

Be sure that a real team.

I am my understanding that the beast can hold more .

than their bellic. Ans, okay, I I shouli have nothing against that. You to create a new orland area. I have just never heard the pack.

I did not know that they had a basketball team in oil. And so I will be the first to MIT that I deny, do you? They have wizards and washington? I, I, D, I don't know. I have heard of the washington wizard. Okay, that sounds like A, A, B, A, T, that got brought over bullshit right there.

Boy, on the shops .

tonight. Man.

yeah. Well, anyway, to talk some tech, yeah.

what's this? I promise .

you that neither of us has been .

drinking no OK, but IT is for us still. It's the second to last day of the month, which means we're still in time for Q N A. We pushed to Q N A last week. We can get the the straight dump from your trip to north line up before IT kind of faded in memory.

I didn't want to forget too much. I think we covered almost everything in a couple of things. I fly, oh, power tools.

That's damad. 嗯。

that was supposed to be the cold open. Hey brad, what's to do with power tools in north CarOlina? The one section we forgot to hit on the nose last week was the thing I was going to call open about this week.

And then we totally, we just did a different code open. We can all open about the next week. I got, I got to use IT. Okay, maybe we should save the time.

Never remember, no chance .

we'll remember. I make a note of IT. OK put.

IT put in. Next we show that, and we will be good to .

go cold open topics are too valuable to just burn.

I can you imagine you remember the day when we were so over over a burden with cold open topics that we did in all cold open episode.

We've done several this.

This is probably the time we should enounce our our imminent dive back into the ranking of software. I guess the real thing to with this.

i've got a ranking joke for this absolute bank already.

So nice. Okay, perfect. Hope of that.

Your bucket will get to that soon OK.

But yeah, this is, this is the episode return questions and answers. It's a week late because we wanted to get brads take on north CarOlina. And but if you have a question, you can send the email to tech pod at content dot town.

That's tech pod at content dot town. It's it's the town where everybody wants to be. Or if you're a member of the got here in the discord, you can go to patch on the complex checkbox, find out how to get in there.

It's five bux a month to get the discord. You get the patriotic piso's. You get to spend time with bread me on the disco king about stuff yeah and um you can post on the question seeking answers channel if you're in there.

So also I I swear i'll be back on the disco soon. I don't think i've been back to discuss anything on there or since I got back in the town of catching up on a lot, a lot of stuff to handle at the moment.

This morning, I thought of you because I was like you couldn't a bit on the discount when you had satellite service only, yes. But as I was going over sample, no mountain on the air, and this morning I had satellite server, I got the S, O, S, like in the the area. I was shocked .

to try something as so .

as I was driving those.

Does that just connect to any number like you, a message to a phone number, as uso .

is a versatile, what happens? You send the message to the other, to the other end. And if they're on an iphone, at least they get a message that says, hey, this would send me a eymet sage dash. Satellite responses may be periodic, and, uh.

that's IT OK the difference.

What are .

the questions here were just discussing? Here's a question from shan being a pair of good southern boys, can you clock different regional southern accents like folks in the U. K.

Seems so fond of doing? yes. Also, did you modify your own accents when you started working in media? No, just curious because I find out excEllent, so fascinating even if i'm rush at distinguishing them. I don't I don't know that I I mean, I can I can hear different regional al southern accents, but I don't think I to .

put the names to them. This like a big difference between like a south George and the northeast tennessee and a kentucky like like like the furthers south you get when you get time toward like southern mississippi, southern alabama, norther than those kind of sound the same to me yeah. But like north Caroline, a mountains verses north Caroline, a coastal is a wildly different accent.

sure. right? It's like this sharp eyes are much more there for me. But but I didn't. My parents, my parents arent from the south, and they beat tax.

So I had my generations, untold of my family have lived there. So yeah, I am, I am died in the wall.

I don't have an accent though.

Well, that's on. Any guess that goes to this other question. Did you modify your own accents when you start working in media? I think that kind of naturally evaporated to .

I was going say, I kind of want to go back to like some two thousand four era bread videos and see early .

brads think it's probably quite a bit more proud I ve had people right in and I kind finish over time I can see that there was definitely for quite a while if I if I drank enough, he would start coming back out.

But I think that .

too even even that I think because maybe I think it's just kind of like gone ish, but actually IT takes takes twenty minutes on the phone with my parents start coming back.

I think so. My wife does that was her sister the one that does the the lives in cow in tennessee still SHE will it'll come come back for few hours and then IT goes away.

Yeah and I started like when I was out there for almost three weeks. You definitely start feeling like turns of phrase coming back that you haven't used in thirty years. You know what I mean?

Yeah I can see that um like like I I used to work with a woman who said that he looks so mad he IT was IT was really funny. He looks like somebody who looked the red off his Candy cane he looks like somebody looked the red off his Candy can which meant they were he looked pissed.

I've never.

never heard of that. I think that's a kentucky when if I had, I like eastern kentucky one .

one I heard quite a bit was that you would wear the balls off a Price. Billy goat.

wow, with the balls of the billions s feet. They don't have, or I don't know .

testis. I actually .

into the tech pot after dark.

which is which is basically just a way of saying you're exhAusting.

I can see that yeah, we didn't. We didn't. The s the ones that always get me you are the very specific regional things from where I grew up, like people would say chimney and chimney ah and um and like pit, like a thing that you stick into cloth to hold two pieces of cloth together, like that small piece of pointed metal, not a needle, but the other one, and a writing new pencil that uses, inc.

Identical words. interesting. I thought those were the same words for like, like I when I came home from school one day in second grade or first grade, a new kid came to class and I was like, mom, I made a new best friend.

There is this awesome kid. His name is jeff, like the peut button. His name was not jeff, like the peut button. He was just, but he said his name is jeff. Uh.

this a good time for me to get on my show box about the phrase bless your heart.

Oh, bless your heart is not a thing you say when kindness and love wait.

are you one of them? No.

I don't. I don't say, but i'm not fifty year old. Other other woman, where are an absolute h no, it's it's usually meant and extreme .

condescending matter experience well.

surrounded by kind of people.

I assure you. When my grandmother finally got to meet her beloved Richard petty, yeah and I asked if he could hug his neck yeah and said, bless your heart to him.

I mean, that's a different situation.

Sure you SHE was not session him.

No, no. Okay OK. So might be this context awareness here.

of course, of course, but like, I see this all over twitter now, people who are not from the south of internalized the idea that bless your heart is just a polite way as I fuck you, which is extremely is not where i'm from.

I so I think when you're talking about a twitter is full of bad people now, so not a necessarily a good place to source material um but B I think I think if i'm talking to someone if like my grandmother says blest your heart, I think that she's .

being kind to me .

but if a stranger says blest your heart, then they're .

like two steps away from fighting work. I'm concerned, even rent generation, all point nine percent of the time. IT is used sincere.

Ly, oh, anytime, anytime. Like like what I was invited to some kids sleep over so that they could try to take me to church and save me. The next day I got a lot of place.

Your heart and family is is either to express sympathy or gratitude. All those.

yes, yeah, yeah. But if if like somebody in in the line that came out says, bless your heart, that's not.

I don't mean kind. Yes, I can be use.

This is like you all the yall. I like everybody y's using people, people for not in the south of, started using all as a gender inclusive people, which I I don't have. I think that some people I am .

trying to figure out how they don't like, how they know how to say this. But the attitude is basically like, you all really come on like as if it's like insane. We're trying too hard to use word like all I really talking about. I mean perfectly it's perfectly useful .

contraction yet perfectly cronulla word.

I to say, you all folks, I say, yes, that's ohio .

thing. If the jersey kids have taught me anything that said everything from ohio O S bad.

Mean that west thing because of the people that I knew that said yan.

the kid I knew that said yang was .

from cuba oo pop instead of .

coke to people weird have taken .

that we ve talked about that new york times .

thing where you put in the where to ask you want to of questions about what you call things and then he tells you where you lived growing up .

you .

that I think .

that thing was pretty accurate .

for me yeah, shockingly .

accurate. yes. A question from zc. A quick for move on from the emails. What do you guys for a while and you've always been interested in homesites ant, what's the best way to get started just by the board and some stuff and kind of figured out and buy some stuff? I think he means like some radios and this stuff, lugs plugs and stuff just by the board in some stuff and kind of figured out as you go or you have some resources to get started with IT um I am taxi vy and that i'm the one in my family or the one that my family comes to protect problems. But homesites m will be my most test heavy thing I have ever done also in leaning toward the homesites ant Green for simplicity at the start. Is this a good starting point?

So it's like any time you're starting with the internet of shit things, it's kind of like you you don't want to jump in whole hog, right? You you you buy one and you buy you buy a controller, then you buy some stuff and then you can you kind of want to dig in from there. I think because you you're going to learn things about how you want these things to work, and that's onna shape the purchasing decisions you make on everything else.

yes. And you're also going to arn ourself about how your house works. Frankly, like my house guy would love to have smart switches in all the in every in every room in the house.

But in order to do that I have to buy really expensive ones because I have two. I don't have a neutral wire in my electrical system um and I couldn't known that. Like if i'd gone out in buta bunch of switches before I knew that, then I would have peto return a bunch switches.

A big pain, the bug. But yeah, I I think starting with the Green. The Green is a ninety nine dollar box. IT doesn't use a pie. The the home assistant makes two pieces of hard right now. One is the home assistant yellow, which uses A A rasberry p cm for module compute module four a and then the Green is a newer box that uses a slightly less capable ARM processor and has like thirty two giggs of storage and a two giggs of memory or a giggs memory. I think I can member which .

the is just all in one. You don't have to supply your own thing .

to stick into IT yes at all. One box that has fewer radios. So um IT doesn't have uh IT doesn't have a read radio. I think out of the boxes .

be radio of the box.

which you may not mean like the thing I would say is if you buy stuff like cost of smart plugs or um uh uh I see other company that makes the good RGB bulls .

that I have um think life x one of them life fix was one .

of the old ones but it's still around.

I can't remember who makes the common bulb these days.

So there's a bunch cream makes bubs that are pretty good. Um there's the ones that I bought were really surprisingly cheap like you can get you can get a packet bulbs for like eight dollars each, so you get three bulbs for twenty five box. Don't buy new stuff.

Huge stuff is really frequent, expensive and is wise. Is the is the bus? Yes, they do a lot of decent stuff.

The trick is you want to get stuff that doesn't require an internet connection to works. You want the the home assistant integration that use people to talk to IT directly with T, P, link. And the wise integration, if you set IT upright, will both do.

Yeah think I was going say is like you're you're in a good position where you don't have a bunch of smart stuff already. yes. The whole reason I landed on homesites m was because like so this before, I like we've got a bunch of of T P link smart plugging that we bought on various sales, got a couple of bulk in ones for some reason. I can remember i've got my device stuff that that I can advertise or sent to, you know, I mean, like I ended up with hoa system because we had so many different things that we just needed one common ecosystem to make everything work together. Um but since you are buying stuff, knew you're in a position where you can spend time on the home system forum and see what works best both for your use case and also just generally what is most compatible well.

And the other thing that's nice about hoa system is that lets you use things that they are like our home kit or smart things or whatever all the different the is using b radios, use apps, whatever. It'll also let you have stuff, use your stuff out to other services.

So poor example, if you use an iphone in your partner uses an android phone, you can hook both of those up so you use so you can each use the native implementation of on the devices where they make sense, right? If you have a bunch of like google smart screens and apple audio speakers. You can use the google smart stream, you can use the google smart strings, this is really hard to say.

Stream mowle. You can use the google smart screens to control stuff and pipe music out to the, to the apple speakers and IT all just works. yes.

And and that's that's the powerful thing about human system. Sway foot home assistants are just doing the smart thing. You're using the election integration or using a google home APP or whatever.

Yeah, prepare for the learning curve. Like there is absolutely like home system is not the most intuitively laid out thing. We're like a lot of concepts or you know like like their devices, there are entities, there are scenes, their automation, like there a lot of jargon that kind of learn the .

difference between. So I did a clean set up when I did the yellow and all of year a year and a half ago. And I think that my old install, we've had a lot of craft on IT.

Finally.

like the the new user experience for new users is quite good now. Um the most important thing is you want to run everything through homesite stem and then filter out from there to the other services that you use. So you don't want to like hook up with home kit and then switch IT like run home kit to home assistant and then back to home kit again because that will be weird.

Yes, you want to add all the devices directly to on the system.

I was the other thing is you can also just if you have like a rasberry, I two or three sit and around, you want a noodle around with IT, you can install a home, a system on on our old dress. Very pie is like even a really old one. I don't think IT works someone anymore, but two and three is, which are like ten twelve old reserve this point will work and like buy your ten ten dollar pack of three smart switches and noodle around with IT, and set up one room in a time. When you, when you decided want to do IT, set up one room in a time, figure out how you use that room, and then integrate that with the other thing, and learn how to use automation and scenes and like all all that stuff to get the home and a waste going the way you wanted to. But it's it's pretty straight forward .

and it's pretty need you do lot of stuff with.

It's like it's it's all stupid in that it's not stuff that the lake is necessary. But it's really nice when I come home and I don't have to turn on the front porch light when I back into the driveway because I just turns on and the lights will turn on and i'm coming into the house without the whole armed load of groceries and you know, I don't have to like I I say it's time for bed and IT turns off the lights.

all the lights in the house wait .

as I really you're trigger. I say I have multiples time for the kilos bed and I say it's time for our bed and I I mean I I don't want to say the thing that I say they will turn off every light .

my house but yeah and I say.

okay, google, it's time for bed. And then IT turns off all the lights in the house and night lights on and all go away. Google, be .

quite. Lies in your room and off.

at least I can say I kept talking, so I didn't. I didn't get the command. No, but but basically I have that stuff like you can set that stuff up to trigger scenes and automation and things like that, which make IT easy to like put your house in the same state every day. It's kind of vely playing loop hero, honestly, because like you, you, you want to start each day from a known state and you want to end each day, add a knowing state, and then you have to get from that end of day known state to the start of day next state.

I know what looper o is, do you just buy opt if I not played the sound like I yed.

but like the yes I yes.

I totally forgot the name of this game but yes, like the games, awesome yeah, IT was really cool. It's very cool, very hard.

very hard. Unless you're good at works of thinking, in which case .

is not that hard. Think I tapping out on IT the number of runs that went extremely bad IT .

was the game that I was like, I wish this was on ipad, because I would sit and watch T, V, and play this all the time. But I have a steam deck. I, again.

do they never put this out there, that that would have been a really good mobile game? And the reason I forgot what if was is is that the name loop hero sounds like some kind of guitar hero derivative yeah but it's very much not that it's like this kind of gothic fantasy .

world like sort of it's a game about using recursion to like .

do things yeah yes, it's very cool. You talking okay, rice wants to do some discord questions. Here's one from crow.

Uh, have you ever used the windows file explore alternative? Throughout the years i've heard you guys complaining about certain aspects of a file. Explore uh, what file management in general.

So I find a surprising that you don't use something like directory opus. I've been using this for years and now I can't live without IT fun fact about IT. It's been around since the omega days while still being maintained by the same guy on athan potter. So I ahead.

I i've thought .

about this numerous times. The thing that always stops me, and this is a problem that now affects parts of actual file explore, is that there are so many hooks in the Operating system and windows to spain, violently windows. And there is no provision in windows for designating a different custom APP to replace file export like because there are so many other things that will spd folder, like I was strugling to think of many right now, but the dow kinds of cases where no pop .

of explore window up, like when you finish on zip ing something. The openness effort done and always opens and .

the expLoring stuff and and those are always going to open and file explore anyway, even if you're using a different and alternative because they don't give you a way to replace that yeah at the system level. So it's kind of the thing that really just stopped me from never trying to adopt something else. Um that Debra also manifests now and that there is no way to uh tell IT to open those those links in the same for export or window.

You are to have open either they have tabs. Oh there is no total for that. I wish they would have a setting where you could say open all new file, explore windows in the same existing window.

I think that in twenty four no. Is that really you can duplicate tabs s and file explore r finally, OK, I want to say that I saw that that might have been something that somebody had on the list of things that they still have been done. I I can't remember yeah like .

opinions on that feature seem very split because i've search before because I couldn't believe that was not the in there. And I saw a lot of people like on places like that going like, no, that sounds terrible. Why would you want that? So I should probably be a toko and not just the defined behavior, but I really wish they would not put in a just like any time windows needs to spin a new file export window, just if there's one open, just make time in that window.

So as the dolby .

of tabs and do not have a bunch of extra windows folding around.

but that happens anyway. Agree, I wish I mean, honestly, one of the things I wish is that for apps with tabs like like browsers and file explored and like that, you could just right click on the task bar and merge all of the tabs into one .

window you can do. I wish, would wonder.

I, I am, I never used these things because I spent enough my life writing and and like helping people understand software and windows Better. That not running the default seems like a mistake. So I I tried files for a while a few years ago, which is an alternate, a file explore or alternate kind of up in coming once in the microsoft storm. IT was fine.

I had a lot of little problems with that, ended up making IT measurably worse than just using file explore and sucking IT up and dealing with the problems that as um but also the loss of the ability to like no, it's it's like um when you're making a game, it's always good to have some people on the team that uses just false settings for everything because you want to know what that if you fuck up something on that defauts experience for people you wanted know, but sooner rather than later. And it's important, I find IT important for me to use. Now, of course, I I don't practice what I preach the like. I immediately turn off the search being when you do file, when you do like starting menu searching and stuff like that. But but that's .

just looking out for yourself. Yes.

i've just glad that they don't put one A I, I the reason I switched to files in the first place was the stupid as reason ever, which was that they put one drive at the top of the quick, quick list, no matter whether you use one drive at all. And I annoyed me so much that I was just like, i'm not going to use this anymore because I use that quick link, I use that quick list all the time, and I link all the stuff that I use on the day to day there yeah. So it's probably .

a registry hack for getting rid of those one travellin' twenty .

three h two is god twenty four two, twenty eight two. Oh.

we really not .

out of my list.

I've still got mine.

Well, you get install one driver or something. I don't have one drive running so that maybe what does that you can turn off now I still do.

I don't know why. Just extra cloud storage, just in case it's a bad club storage very quick. I have not used this.

I don't even know it's ready for you. I think it's still an alpha. You see space.

No, no space drive. Oh, I am not in the slightest vouching for this. I just saw this going around and think on twitter.

Others get up. rep. O for IT. The account is space drive APP. The repose is called space drive. I'll just read the description and an open source cross platform file manager powered by a virtual distributed file system written in rest.

So I say it's a common is purporting to be like a common file management utility across the windows, mac and linux. Um but I don't I don't know what all this virtual distributed file system businesses that sounds like some like abstraction layer to make a bunch of different. Local and cloud storage all show up as the same kind of common storage pool, which i'm not sure. I'm not sure i'm super into that idea.

This seems like a bad idea, but maybe it's a good idea. I don't know .

if you if you could ign the virtual files system stuff and and just keep exposing all your moral drives, everything this is you have .

all the devices on at the same time. I don't dumping up in the cloud some place yeah not I.

not I. I barely have read my head around what exactly they're trying to do with this thing. But anyway, modern file management is interesting efforts going on. It's made barreled more investigation. But I absolutely am not saying, yes, they are on alpha zero .

point four point two there to go to to .

get to on going on modern file managment.

stuff rest. huh? No.

yeah. What about IT?

Just just same rust. H, I hate twitter.

but like every time I bring up twitter and I feel more and more day by day that I should stop using IT like i'm finding quite a few more people jumping the blue guy. Lily, i'm really starting to think maybe it's signed to .

pull the record for this guy's reactive these days, man, haven't seen in years.

are showing up there now, like I IT feels response, even talking about witter point, because it's such a fucking, I feel like I shouldn't even like, say the word out out anymore. Look.

I had A, I had a blue sky post to go kind of big last night. And you know what I was? You know how I know twitter really is actually dead for really Wilson ith just had a home run in the world series. I didn't get a single tweet about IT .

interesting or IT not one. I could be a and call I haven.

I haven. I didn't know when he played in a game. I didn't know there's a will's men who plays okey for the sharks. These are all things I would have known before. And I don't think anybody y's using IT anymore progress.

But the the order I rought that up was that my switch kind of for you algorithm for some time was getting infected by people arguing over programing language.

That means that, look, so sometimes the machine knows you, man.

There was a lot of people talking about rest and zig and see three and kind of all these modern successor languages there, trying to be the new sea, how to talk about rest after there. A lot of strong feelings about rust.

mine, mine is just people yelling at each other .

and being angry that everybody go, yeah all right. Let's move on to another question from zillah. Sm, what's the tech industry word that you mispronounced for the longest or still mispronounced today? I've mentally locked myself into saying sudi instead of sudi, but it's suit you, man.

Oh, and i'm still not sure if C I S A is pronounced like sisa, sisa or scissor. I don't remember what is C I S A? I should know that.

I don't know. C I S A as I was I.

we've talked about this. Yes, is the federal. What is the stand for cyber security and infrastructure agency security ages? Sorry, cybersecurity and infrastructure security agents.

certified information systems itor.

I mean, I could be what they are talking about here. This is america's cyborg defense agency.

Or is IT community involved in sustaining .

agriculture? That could be on any number of things are all with different printing tions on the du su du thing. I have life sort of leaning very strongly in the direction of prancing things in a way that kind of like implies what they do, or what they mean, or what they stand for. So super user do.

So would that be .

as you do or such to user do? They do at least implies you are doing something. The command is going to do something I don't like. Like also know that the famous suu alternative do as are you going to find, do like .

multiple problems, said there, I get that famous and b no.

thank you. And yeah.

I don't know. I don't I like to think .

I say everything properly yourself are not necessarily going to be aware that you are mispronouncing something I guess to see. I don't have a good principle for U F, I, which I think is little too wordy to say by letter. But I hear people say, like a wii.

u is how we say that work, the world. But you, that's a derive thing.

It's a plus your heart situation. Well, my real answer is i'm never going say, well.

I don't. I mean, that is like the right answers that you .

pronounce to U. F. I BIOS. yes. Okay, look, I am going into the bio. I am going to change bio settings.

That's just the way that is. I mean, you talk to mother bird vendors.

they still say bio. So i'd like the thing .

I had multiple times of my life and i've been corrected by people from the company with contradictory answers. Um like I don't I don't know, I I welcome was the one that got me because we always call them wake on tablets.

I but probably until you just said that just now.

I thought I was wake on the the preferred principle by the the vendor was always welcome and which is a weird like I would you it's like, it's like what I was doing a thing about windows seed. You even more windows.

No.

W I N C E was the abbreviation for when?

Yes, yes, yes, win e yes. The base s dream cast the zoo.

It's what became windows mobile IT became windows phone eventually. But um IT started as their answer to the palm IT was A P D P D thing and it's stood for windows embedded come uh embedded let's our computer impedance compact. I think you're embedded um winter .

windows embedded compact is what's coming up here yeah .

that would contact .

windows ec but I guess not that right.

You couldn't say IT was wince if I was that, but I do anything .

like windows new technology.

Yeah that was a lot like windows and new technology anyway yeah so I don't know tech activities are weird, jeff.

Yes, I was no word. Let's move on. I was even going to take of this question, but now you've said that from Helen.

see. okay. But how do you pronounced out? J, F, I, F.

jeff.

is that I is a an actual file exchange. I'm sure i'm not telling you anything. It's awful ly hard to google for file extension these .

days yeah if you have to google the file extension with a period in front of IT and then put the file extension .

after IT and isn't very good and the other even the site that do address file extensions are the generated garbage at .

this point is a lot about our generated .

garbage these days. Dot J F I F is a JPEG file interchange format. Wait, really it's a real thing. Oh yeah, no.

that's a real extension. Oh no.

that's I mean, that is like the ur example of my my my ideology of grancy extensions and acronyms. And so fourth, there's already A J I F. So how do you pronounce J I F if G I F is, is jeff fifth, no. Is J F I F though? Isn't IT? No, no, no.

There's A D, J, I, F.

This a totally separate extension, jeff, before the one with A G that start. jeff. Man, alright, these questions are folding back. And on the right, well, here's the last email or question rather about letters and acronyms from chip. Surely, as they profound observation, if you all ever noticed that some letters are cooler than others, putting R, X, T after the name of a car or a graphics card would be cool. But putting K, L, B or A, F, H would not read an .

article about this a few years ago. Really there's a link with six city behind this.

I have to read that.

Um you please find that link. It's a episode of the world I think OK hope for four not found me and the internet sucks down yeah sure does .

this is not wrong. This is, you're absolutely correct. That are x okay? Like what are the good letters? Normally before, let's say, like two years ago, I would have said x as a grey letter, but not now.

Okay, so here's a paste magazine article. This is that what I was looking for, but they rank to the letters of the elephant .

from blame as list. That was my ranking joke.

Can you do this?

That was the rinking joke that I had saved up for this question that I .

mentioned twenty years ago.

This next, our next ranking, and that is ranking of letters.

Um they I don't actually know, I can't find the article that I read, but there was a there was a really fascinating article by a linguis probably um can a camera named the woman who hosts the the illusionist, which is a great linguistic podcast, I would guess that he linked on twitter like ten years ago, probably at this point. But um there there's theory about sounds and what those sounds do to your brain when you hear them about what we some letters cool than others like s is a cool letter because s is a good sound and it's like us IT makes good brain things happen when you say sounding like kind .

of a total logical argument is like this is a good sound because .

it's a good sound. Also.

IT has the cool s which is inherent cover.

是 kids today still love the call as you I need.

you know, obvious ly in video. I figured .

this out twenty years ago. They .

have S, G, X. They use that with the first g force.

the very first one.

because I was twenty five years ago. Oh, I can't member if they started. When did they start using G.

T. X? I was eight series was I was finally .

I definitely remember when I was like like we're getting into the tensor reasons of the .

let's go IT might have been in the first time they reset the numbers as when they switched to .

gtx o that might be right. Another on R, T, X, obviously. And like all good letters.

yeah, well, like T, X is a good like think about IT you say tx, it's easy to say it's like, it's like, yeah, it's all about how easy surface to say. Like I stumbled on something a minute ago because I was like three three words that started with that together and that's hard to say right now. So like when you're writing us, like i've been writing a lot of scripts for these youtube shorts I do over PC world lately, and I often spend time thinking about how the words are going to sound, what I say them if there if like if they're hard and awkward, but I can stick them, then it's good and it's going to sound good and weird and interesting because people don't Normally talk that way because it's hard to do. And yeah, anyway, I think about the stuff of a lot.

No, trying to think about cool litter combinations because most of these don't actually stand for anything. No, like R, D, N, A is a pretty good one.

I think our DNA actually does them for something on d na.

Oh, maybe I don't know on the oxide nuclear.

I think it's the implication of what D N A is just that makes .

IT special.

Think of too many other cool .

letter combinations there in common use. I oh, esquire had a fund right up .

in which IT ranked the letters of the half. But in order of style and popularity, okay, well.

not a gino idea. I don't. I'm funning enough to pull off drinking of the alphabet anyway.

Well.

maybe Better left to the .

professionals. I I don't know when we should get a guston for that. sure.

I, I came up, I came up with an X, L for next lander.

What do you think of next? N XL. Good OK.

I thought, I thought that flowed pretty well.

Yeah, you can say that I did like IT implies the thing that you're talking about. It's a good branding things.

X, T was audience use. So like .

a tech pod. B, B, P.

D, D. I tell you I cloud baskets, uh, kind of abbreviated. Um I used T, P, D for tech. Pn.

yeah, sounds like may be I don't want to be part of the P D.

D. D D is not a cool letter. And so T, P.

D, you don't never what D, T.

P D sounds like. It's describing some kind of disorder.

Yeah.

maybe maybe Better not yeah no.

I I don't want the tech .

pot disease .

tp o tpp .

mappers.

One by one for this experiment to if if it's a word that is pronounced ble and that's a different category entirely. Anyway, we probably talked about the subject. We will see question from watch box seven hundred.

I have an apple watch series nine. It's the first apple watch i've had almost a year into ownership. I still struggle with finding apps.

I don't even know what I want, and the creation on the apps store is pretty minimal. What apps beyond preloaded service to you use and how do you find out about a new and must have apps? I don't go looking for apple watch apps at all. Like everything I use on there is a derivation ative of a phone APP. It's all, it's all stuff that has trickled down from like my my two factor authentication, for example, or over casts, or try to think what other third party apps I use me.

and maybe you may be, I wish to, that will be .

had OK don't even get me started about getting audio onto an apple.

You know, the secret, right? You talk about .

just to control what's playing on your phone from your watch.

No, that's just a Normal. That's just a Normal, an IOS feature. I'm talking about having libby copy the audio book to I list to of the watch.

Yes, that s what is a no easy the .

secrets turn up blue tooth. Yeah.

I think I do. That is still a pain.

The us IT is a pain. The answer like with overcast.

first of all, like overcast wall sink from the phone to the watch automatically. Like them it's supposed to you. But like sometimes I hit refresh hf a thousand times and is still doesn't go and then I come back later and it's finally .

decided to see how can you go with just .

a watch I have got just to what like almost every day to erode. I don't want to bring my phone an interesting .

idea um which was like half the .

reason I got to watched. Frankly, I don't want the phone bounding around in my pocket when out trying to get some exercise. Get that you have to you have to wait. You have to finally wait for that thing to happen. Let thee podcast start downloading over blue tube, which takes forever, and then turn off the youth in the settings, and it'll fall .

back to wifi .

just like ten times faster.

And the wifi .

is very faster. Those are all like apple A, P, I limitations. So like this, all imposed by apple. They are very restrictive about what they will and will not let the watch do well.

He's also said that there he also just redid overcast. Basically, the main thing, and I think that the watch thing is a Better, is part of the list of things that are going to get improved. But this new infrastructure that may be true.

although I did have a recast more pocket that I was about ten minutes to as .

played .

when I see crazy when I was in the middle a long walk. And there is no way to just single tap until this is not played. This is that I was listened to this.

Please let me started over and literally will not let you played over again. That sucks. Like, you know what I I what I had to do was loaded up at the very end of the file and then sit and hitting the ten second three wind button, about five .

thousand, back to the place that IT hoses me is if you accidently press the button, the best for IT, celera, tes, one I blessed all way through the little epsom before.

which stinks. Yeah, anyway, sorry, this is kind of digressing from your question. But um yeah I I I don't actually know of really any watch only or watch first apps to recommend because I like I said and using everything that is interfacing with my phone.

i'm opening my watch APP right now. I can see what I haven't installed on my phone, but I don't think like I have one password in author which I never use a fantastic coal which I have just to have, uh, complications on yeah I have home assistant, which is a pain the asset up and I ve never used. I have the APP of my car, which I do use because it's cool to start your car from your watch to change one shit that is pretty ool.

Um I have pet rica three because IT lets me do timer IT lets me show timers that are running in the food APP. But since I always use pepe on the ipad, IT doesn't matter. And then I have a brazilian things here that I couldn't stall but I never have. So yes, I the only time I install in APP for something because if I want the complication on on the watch face.

the watch is really kind of a utility device for me um although I do use the apple news APP on there, just like i'm standing in kitchen waiting for some water to boil or something like that, I have to stand there and read the headlines on my watch because I I don't care in my phone around to my park all day at home.

I if if I missed without my phone and I have five minutes to call. I think about .

the pointlessness .

of everything central. Al dread.

Ironically, i've kind of embraced that sort of rodolf philosophy when I am out with my phone, like more more these days, like if I not barred the bus or something, I just kind of like look out the window and taking the sites rather than this, rather than sit on my phone because I just feels like like I at some point I started feeling I don't have guilty is the right word.

But I just started having reservations about constantly just have been having my nose buried in my phone everywhere I go all the time. You know, I just like, I feel like I should maybe a little more aware of my surroundings and just of like take the world. And I was .

unbarred tonight. I was looking around the people. I made unfortunate contact with a lot of people. I at the phone fair exclusively that is fair.

Um anyway that I I mentioned the apple news APP on there and only shows you like the most recent seven headlines and no change that so you have to pay to get that. Or is this just the the free no but it's just summaries. You can read the article.

It's just you can do is a book market for reading later on an actual device that would make me crazy, right, so that I was looking for something like that. That's a little that has actually meet to IT like a news apple on the watch. But I have to find anything I .

don't want to read my watch. I just wanted to will tell me when to be protecting me.

Yeah, I mean, it's like I said, it's just just the rare occasion that i'm just like in the other room for five minutes.

I I used the rocky talky thing a lot with with the kids .

w just over right cloud because over the internet .

IT basically, I think that sends a secret I message that doesn't display this says you want to open a point point connection and then you have make up press to talk channel that I wish was on the phone too. It's annoying that it's just on the watch.

Um alright, here's kind of someone and slightly related question from teel. What's your most successful way of discovering new music? I'll watch for this because I don't really listen .

to a lot of to music. I have two really good ways. I have a eleven year old daughter. And like like teen pop is pretty good right now OK.

And if you're wear, but like there's a thing happening with with with like female pop vocalists that they are very good. And then I have a friend, mike, who's really good at music stuff. And and Frank are also good at music stuff.

And they shout out to micon. Frank, okay. They often share music and a discord, which I then go and add to my apple music. And then I listen to IT. And sometimes I like, sometimes I don't. And if you do that for a little while, then your your programmatic feeds on apple music or spotify or I title, I guess I don't know, start recommending other other stuff that it's like that it's pretty good year.

So children with friends .

or child friends, it's good to have a friend who's really in to music.

Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, I was who's good, who's good in team pop. He is.

外面 real， really popular right now. But like a everybody goes pretty good, is pretty .

good were two of my guesses. So granted that's all just time .

spent on twitter charts did but in summer um sisa had some bangers last year earlier this year. Guess I don't know times immutable able this point sure but yeah like this good .

stuff ah uh all right here's here's a quick little tip from last week from dasha double one regarding the sideways is wrong. You know where we talked about get the a brazilian .

north american prongs es and I D didn't know about yes also .

we we all have .

our plugs upside down oh yeah, they're all supposed to be, not a face. I supposed to be the two, two down is what the standard says. I really, that's what the person, somebody linked on discord. I sum, I can only sum.

it's true. This entire nation is out of spec in because I had never seen them place that way.

If if somebody put prongs in for me upside down, I would make them flip them because that would look weird.

Now, alright, well, here is an explanation from does not. And one Normal outlets can handle fifteen ams, but the outlets with the horse zonal Brown can supply twenty ams. If a device requires twenty APP s and want to run on fifteen, the plug will have the sideways wrong.

So you can only plug IT into a twenty amp outlet. The wiring determines what average the ali can be. Fourteen gage for fifteen ams and twelve gage for twenty ams. Small gage means larger wire, so you can just put a twenty APP breaker and call a good hope that helps.

I am going to say I have a lot of twenty eight brokers in my house. I don't have any of those weird .

sideways plugs right, well prepared at least.

I mean, look, I can do all sorts of stuff. It's also worth mentioning that, uh, last month, or I guess I was last month now when we were talking about volts and ams through all wards and what would make the magic smoke come out, I got a backwards.

right. Which .

party did you? OK, I was waiting. I was waiting for something .

once to the sounds, domus, like you've got some core piece of electrical information backwards and somebody burned their house down or something.

No, just about fifteen people wrote in, and it's been a while. So I want to put IT started that present. I forgotten until we are talking about this. Okay, yeah, the the idea that all of our plugs are upside down and the ground supposed to be the top is shocking to me, and I don't I can't even cope with that.

Um okay. Question from voltage x property user name this is pride bad. This is probably going to asked before, but what no taking and knowledge management things do you use of sitting one notes? Important, do not lose out text.

I am, I am not too far off from important, do not lose our text to accept that I use simple note when using simple l note for extremely forever. So my to do this is just a text file stored in simple note basically, which at least it's cross platform. But I have i've kind of been meaning to get off of simple note for a while now, because i'm kind of surprised they are still around. And I keep going for my whole.

I think, IT open sources and .

a simple notes. No, thanks.

So I felt like I I elt feel like it's an open source thing that lives on top up because isn't a jobs with a simple note client too.

That may be the case, but not a simple l note itself is a commercial service like they are still a company ah oh wo they're part of automatic, apparently not going to get that we I don't .

think we should I just enough about that get myself real trouble the ongoing .

drama in the wordpress community, probably a whole episode to itself but I also not really qualified to speak to IT. Um anyway I don't I don't know, maybe simple no will not go away. I just have I don't know what their business model is.

They they charged for thinking if you don't use .

dropbox to think OK. So anyway, i've been storing text and simple notes once twenty ten I think twenty eleven and it's still there. So I guess that's something. But yeah, I have thought about the city. And or a notion is the other big.

So I use notion about, I don't know, we talked about this long time ago before this podcast. Even I used to use simple note in at eight of shot, low the notes one time on a bad sink, and just wiped them out. And that was the end of my relationship with simple note.

I, i've got through all of them. I used ever note. I used notion. I used to visit in.

I think obsidian pretty is of the problem I have that fundamentally, I want something that I can use with the ipad in the pencil and drawn right on that will sink to a windows P. C. And years. I can tell that just doesn't exist that.

but that is the pain of being in the apple ecosystem. But still being a frequent windows user is that there is a ton of stuff that is kind of just works across all our apple devices and if only would also just work to your windows machine.

everything would be perfect. Yeah I I really like um what is that free note that thing that they do, a free cameras called IT, it's it's an it's an apple, it's an ipad only minutes on both now but it's an ipad up that you basically get infinite canvas to draw in. Its fabulous so yeah but and IT thinks across all yourself through I cloud blob a blog really, really easy. But there's no viewers on windows and there's no tool little to use that on windows, so uses .

to me I don't know that's really answering .

that question. What I will says we used confluence at trade bomb bay. I used um google keep with who we used that to share notes and documentation across the company. Um I really like notion a lot. The free version is pretty good and fully featured enough to use for for real personal note taking.

But if you want to blow IT out and use IT for like everything from task management and like deliverables instead like that, and have like waterfall charts in the whole deal with like nested multiple, multiple, require multiple steps of finishing and requirements and all that stuff like you would with a gera or t or something like that, it's really good. I also kind of like true for note, taking honestly try is quite good and you do the cards and put like each topic on the card. But but it's it's definitely not made for that. I I wouldn't mind having a thing that is like, hello, that is a note taking stack, basically interesting.

I thought of my using trailer that way. I idea you may have just convinced me to give notion a try because I I assume I assume it's got some building facility for a proper to do list like check off .

type functionality yeah to the it's basically a Vicky and it's all command. It's all like typing based. So you we can want to make new page of page.

You just typed sash page. I like IT and then IT makes takes you to the new page, and the link from the old page becomes the title. The title of the new page becomes the link from the old page.

And you can kind of organization moving around. You can make task less with dates on the tasks, stuff like that. So like, yeah, IT works pretty well. They're some weird. It's weird sometimes and it's definitely like a programmer kind of like software development productivity tool, not necessarily like a grocery list tool, but it's quite good. The honestly, the other thing I do is when we do meal plan in peppa, I I really use their grocery shopping functionality a lot because you tell you what you just always keep stock of like sugar and flower and ex and stuff like that and then it'll generate a list of and sometimes the quantities. These are stupid, but it's like you can I ball that you know, that you need to get based on and we read .

whatever else to sounds useful.

Yeah, it's good. Petrick is pretty good.

I have been finding my keeping even that crappy little text to do this has been helping me tremendous and getting things done.

Oh, it's it's like as soon as you have more than you can keep track of at a time, IT reduces my mental little lot. Yeah yes, for sure.

Like I ve always kind of pride myself on not having to take notes in track of things like when I review the games, I never take notes on anything for memory yeah but at some point, I i've got enough to do at this point these days that I just like I cannot keep everything in my head at this point.

For me, it's just that I don't I I would rather I didn't often forget things, but I would much rather spend my time thinking about what's next than worrying that i'd forgotten something, which is what always was the case. IT is not a sign of weakness to write things down. If you don't write things down.

IT doesn't they don't happen? No, in my case was just too lazy to want to manage IT just didn't want to have to like IT felt more work. But but not not doing the work make things, makes things harder.

And when we were doing editor editorial jobs, I often would move straight from one thing the next. So IT wasn't like I had, like, I knew that I had five things hanging over me, but there were five well established things, and they were a list that somebody else was keeping track of, right? So I didn't have to have like these sub deliverables are whatever, right? And it's Blakes more complicated about best.

yes, for you run in life, not coincidently, a lot of the kind of busy work administration or of stuff i'm talking about how to do with part owning two companies and all of the tiny little tasks they .

can get endlessly pop up around that there are a .

million one of things no um all right, I don't i'm complaining to be for her. It's no they still beats, still beats working for giant company yeah uh all right. I should have role this on to the electricity talk er earlier but i'm going to attempt to to answer with this role in static rose ridin H I occasionally see the recommendation that you replace search protectors every so many years because their protective ability wears out or something like that.

I have probably tend to twelve search protectors in my house, and they're all at least five years old IT, because me more time and money than I would like to replace all of these. Do Normal people using search protectors under Normal conditions really need to regularly toss out search protectors? Or is this just the sort of thing that only particularly sensitive and fuzzy people to care about? Please keep in mind in your answer that I am absolutely not buying ten new search protectors matter what you say.

okay. So the reason you do this is that there is a maximum number of jewels that the thing that makes IT a search protector can absorb.

and you can find that in the specks. I think I may have talked like my parents basement, like the nice search protector. They had got flooded IT out and they're probably na replace.

But or maybe when I bought that anyway, sure. Like when when I bought that search protector for them, I found in the specks how many jews the search protector was rated to absorb. And my understanding has always been for x number of jewels that are absorb in the third protector loses that much capacity to continue absorb in common sense, right bason. The best is that the more IT if if it's only radio absorbs so many jewels and once it's done, that it's going to lose ability to absorb surges.

That's my understanding as well. And but but I think the real answer .

to this question is, what do you use search .

protective res for the a lot of people. So if you live in florida, where there's a lot of lightning storms and there's there's surgeons through the power system multiple times a week, sometimes this is living where we live in north in california, where we have maybe one thunder or in a year. It's it's a year in a different read zone.

But the real thing you need to look at is what you have plugged into your search protectors, because a lot of people these days use a search protector as a way to turn one plug in two multiple plugs. And this shape you're legging into IT doesn't matter, right? Like if you torch a five dollar iphone charger, it's no big deal.

Like to go nuts if you have a twenty thousand dollar or home theater set up lucked into a search protector. I would probably replace that with every three or four years yes um mainly because you if you got buy a nice search but if you also get insurance for surge destruction on that hardware. And you know that that's that's worth fifty box yeah um but yeah I don't i'd like my computer has a as a currently up to some search producer plug, but that's pretty at the TV chip to replace at this point but is because a very old .

yeah yeah but that on if you .

ve got a nice high and later .

something I would definitely put that on a good protect yeah yeah but if you .

have a four hundred dollar high sense, then who cares you're replacing the search protectors three, five years will cost more than the TV worth three times in yeah um yeah .

yeah the only stuff I ve got plugging to good to search protectors around here is all my computer stuff TV game councils like stuff I really don't want to rule to lose um like even these monitors like monitors and camera and stuff on my desk are not plugging into like they're logged into old monopoly ones that are I don't know how many years old. One of the .

things I i've been told is if you have the kind of search picture that has a fuse and IT, you can just replace the fuse and that sol solves problem. I haven't had a search project with the views and like fifteen years probably yeah a little bit.

I tried to research this and there a lot of like conflicting and pieces of information out there or like you know you want to hear IT from me stronger authority I will named any names but some of the sites that come up with this information does not necessarily want to trust immediately um but I think the ones with fuses are just power strips and not search protection as I correct or do I have that wrong .

I said I don't know .

because I found a guy on U. L. No less than on the U. L. The u.

You see on every .

election ying vice, you as swimming is actually been tested like they have a page on their site that is kind of a good search protector explainer. But they just happen to not address the subject of when should you replace research protector. So I can't quite IT comment there, but I thought thought that I thought what they said was the day a power strip without search protection has a fusing can replace, I could be wrong maybe.

Um the other thing the thing that um so it's interesting consumer reports doesn't actually have recommendation about how you need to replace these. I was kind of surprised, right? I expected them to, but they do say if you live some place where there's a whole bottle of lightning like central fla, you can get a whole home search protector that goes on your break er box and cost five box. Interesting and that might be the Better alternative.

Yeah actually that's that's not the first suggestion. I guess five hundred works for a whole house is not actually that bad.

Yeah also U P S is service and more purpose. And um I they the blood as the batteries of them die over time. But I I don't know the search protection .

situation is there and my cyber power is coming up on five years in january. Time is probably time to check the battery and that thing you might understand the battery costs about as much as the anyway yeah um I I think I mentioned this before but the nice trip light that I have, my parents get and I actually have one here on my T V. And councils to a has has a light on in a search protection .

light to trust those me.

I been told the to trust I did here.

I mean we talked .

about last week, I got a couple of comments from like electrons, people that work on stuff professionally that said they trust replied pretty well. So I I would hope that light is someone transfer the mean yes is a valid to question whether the people who have an interesting and selling you more search protective ers are honest about whether your search projectors are working or not on.

sure. So this is a guide from an electric company. This says, hey, the lights will tell you when they need to be replaced and if it's an expensive, when they're useful and if it's achieve one.

they're not OK. How to what does the cut off for expensive because that trip label s about fifty box.

They do not say, I would think a trip is party health and expensive. I think cheap one is one that is five dollars at walmart or ten dollars at mart.

Yes, I am i'm going to watch that light and see where IT ends up in some number of years.

And if that goes out, I will buy an another. I do yeah I I mean, for me, it's it's the difference like the the things that like i'm not worried about things that plug in through A A A C to D C adapter, like a laptop charger, something like that because that charger will lead the charge and not passed onto the compter and onesta. The computers aren't pledged in all that anymore. Um so yeah I I yeah I don't I don't worry I don't worry as much about electricity frying my stuff as I .

used to um I just had the fear of god put in me from all the thunderstorms growing up in the stuff was I was like practical daily returns in the afternoon to have all bread turned off at the king well employees IT was IT was sorry time to unlike everything in else we had lightning hit our .

area one time and fried our air conditioner yeah because we didn't have air condition for years and years and years after that, I had made a real strong impact.

IT was hot there too. sucks. Yeah alright, to cover more very quick as we wrapped this thing up. That's good, dude. I've had a lot of people scoffed my choice of drinking instant coffee.

I've always defended that even the cheap cursy or branded instant coffee is a lot Better than I used to be with brad say instant coffee is good now. So I had I think it's little nest coffee packets. I believe its nescafe is the brand, yes, that we had out there. And then we also add a little canisters of starbucks dark roast instant.

I would say the starbucks in some stuff i've had as as as good as starbuck get. I gets I thinking over roast their .

coffee generally. Yeah, I wish I I wish we had had like the medium because I also think that there are dark, is is a little too dark or rose but yes, yeah, I wish I tried one of the lighter ones. But but yeah, he was taste like coffee to me basically.

So we I am going to talk about this has been more than ten years and I don't care anymore um when we went to nash to Johnson space center to talk about food in outer space with David chain and Tracy disher. Then um one of the things we got to taste was the coffee that they serve on I S S.

And because because you can't mix things in space, each person, each astronaut s coffee preference gets mixed up into a into one of their drinking pouches and then they just add hot water to you when it's time to drink. So like they put dehydrated milk and sugar and instant coffee and to make them the desired strength, and we get to try bunch of different peoples for coffee. Es, which was fun.

The coffee they used after doing a lot of of gentle leaning to get that out of the people that work there is hula girl because IT at the time I was the only instinct coffee i'd ever had that didn't taste terrible and IT was quite good. IT was a really nice mellow roast. Um cora, I believe made america, of course, because it's NASA.

And yeah I quite good, highly recommended. Ded, are you take a camping? When I go camping, I don't take coffee.

Stuff interesting.

yes, but but there are a lot more instant like the the stuff that starbuck makes, the in the little dissolve in water pouches is quite good, like tasters choice still sucks. But what are you going to do? Is the same after the red for fifty years?

I'm not going to say the next phase amazing either. But in a pension, I can't didn't care. I gets the job .

on yeah when you when you you had other stuff to worry about them coffee yeah hello.

I still once a while, I we still got a bunch of the left. I will have some around here occasionally. I have not been drinking coffee as a rule lately, but if the mood strikes like it's fine, little IT IT is served.

That's what I want out of a cup.

Coffee is fine. Is in some coffee just the hydrated coffee kind of scraped and personal .

is that all is that what they they break the coffee and then they run IT through the d dator until it's just the Christal zed .

fats and solar. Yeah okay. Last question from try. As I not american from new zealand, what's the deal with Candy corn? It's not something we have here and it's common enough in media that i've always wondered about IT because I have no idea what a taste like. I assume it's like a tick tech in texture and a mouse el cy corn.

or as the native americans called Candy maze, a boy is a product of the north american bias. Know it's take .

tag at all, take tax or for people who have not have to take tax are hard. And it's basic a breath, not something you can even chew. It's too hard to chew like just what you can you can break IT with your tea. It's more like you're breaking teeth into other rather than actually showing IT as such. But um any corn is firm but soft and kind of .

creamy I would described this .

as waxy and .

grey and is xy grey those the words and .

it's just sweet with .

like a little .

hint of the yeah it's not .

very good.

No, I mean, I don't I don't hate IT. Some people I feel like have kind of turned IT into a personality trade to hate Candy on yes.

become like the anti bacon popular bacon used to be yes so i'm got that's done yes um you know what I do hate is the pumpkins that are like that stuff because they make those in ball like much larger pumpkin shapes. And the baby corn is kind of a manageable size. But you could put, take a whole fistful of that and cheow IT up, make a big to sugar water in your mouth.

It's kind of growth and also a little compelling. But the pumpkins are gross. The pumpkins, the ratio of sugar to waxy stuff is bad. Yeah, and it's not what you want.

Yeah, I don't. I mean, not that I am like eating a lot of hell can do these days, but I feel like Candy corn is probably not as common as he was a fixture in the eighties as a child.

I I will tell you, like if somebody gave my kid Candy corn, I pi won letter eating because I be afraid that has like you know that he is going to put drugs on your halloween Candy but like maybe the Candy corn but IT also IT would be lose probably and like unwrapped which is our rule like you don't can you lose Candy?

Sure I I think Candy corn there was one house that gave fig bars and um like like a pirates booty one year paris booty you know the know had the booty. It's it's like cheese puffs, but they're slightly healthier because there they're baked instead of fried oh yeah it's in the snack ele the their White chatter usually instead of yellow check OK. So it's not like a cheder namely that for a pirates of course after dark it's dark but but no the the that house we don't go to anymore because my thoughts like i'm not wasting time with the think people I think .

about are alright.

It's it's a dead top IT takes like six minutes you hit another house that actually give good in that time. Yeah pass. One person gave a toothbrush a few years ago. We don't go there anymore.

They're fuck those people. They're bad. I mean, probably say something about where I met my life like I like band free two approach here.

IT wasn't a great toothbrush. And also, it's like you're trying to counter programme halloween already lost, just don't turn on the light if you're going to waste people's time to the brush fair.

And I ve never had this experience that sounds really fun. Like the area assume I assume you were the same way, like growing up, like I didn't live in middle nowhere. But the houses were not really dense enough to not walkable enough later was not the experience of just training one hundred houses in a night or whatever.

We would just go to the most, we would go to them. We went to the last neighbor od that my parents lived in, right when I was born, before they moved out into the country. And and we would walk around like the six neighbors that they knew. And that was pretty much yet, right?

Yeah, I was like, I guess so there are housing developments that are now that I think about IT that we could have driven to. But I guess that's kind of here to go.

We want to come down and get the experience. We have a full blown like it's like an eighty eighties like teen movie thousands of kids walking around in costumes, going from door to door in the neighbor d that they give the .

good Candy bars but that sounds like the interview to some like IT for anthology halloween movie like trick or treat or creep show whatever.

It's like the episode of stranger things where they go on halloween or like the beginning of aliens versus predator too, which I think also is set on halloween I can't remember but yeah, it's pretty good. It's a little .

chaotic and sounds festive.

It's very IT is very festive and like I will probably put only last year, we went down there for the first time and I didn't put on a costume and I felt like I visit jack. As for not putting on a costume, so yeah, probably get out my dude certain go as the bo ski or something, I don't know. Yes.

keep IT simple. You keep something in the drawer. That is an instant costume.

I don't have a page. I never was able to find a page jEllies big enough for me. But other than that, the levy costumes, bullying shoes.

anyway, there there's a massive co. Coco shortage?

No, that's bad.

We should rap this thing up. But apparently chocolate Candy is super expensive this year because are some coco Prices already forty seven year high? Says this food and wine article.

Is this because of because the climate changes? I don't know this .

because of climate change, but apparently it's due to like numerous, like several successive bad harvest. I believe a boy taken.

that's bad. Well, the code, the cake Candy was really fucking expensive this year. I didn't that. I just I was Normal Price scouting ing.

No, this this is explosively. It's not just it's not inflation that's causing chocolate base Candy to be insanely .

expensive right now. Yeah I was IT was a lot because I I know that coffee production just in general is is declining despite increased planting because of I be a stuff cool ah so you know getting clean now is probably makes sense that will save the money in the end.

Just just get used to trickery.

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