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Hello and welcome to connected episode five twenty five. I'm john Warren and with me is mr. Ricky bench man himself none other than Michael harley. Hey, mike. Hi john. Thank you for joining.

So T J. Would like to say this episode is to by school space and fanta IT is my pleasures riki benching to introduce mister feary .

cover teacher, hello, hello.

hi. Little inside of APP stories right now.

or I don't know john is unconnected .

IT could either .

have show or mike or you're join an episode of unwind, which is also a vibe.

Sure that you've left out the show that I really wanted be on.

Are you want .

to be on a NPC? My favorite podcast.

this GTA be brendon on? Yeah.

I know Brendan cooled in me. I get a right. I get, everybody knows that we can all see IT. Alright, I wouldn't say cooler.

but it's definite taller .

than now is cool. No, it's called. It's fine. You, we can all admit IT.

He's called IT in all of us, right?

Probably not me.

No is a dera. I love you is called in. yeah? yes.

federal?

No, right. what?

what?

Federico, you are. cool.

You take that back immediately.

I take a back. I take a back.

You could bring this to the show.

I will not stand for this energy at the beginning of this.

Know what that is. go. I just upset because I was promised to Ricky and I didn't get them. And I feel like there's been collision, there's been collusion. Somebody has played .

against me that .

is too collusion with what exactly?

I don't .

know .

who I can .

months ago to to do IT this way.

We are personal acquaintances .

of future apple C. L. John.

I know you to me.

which is good for two reasons, because one, maybe he doesn't know, mean the things that I say about him or he does and decided didn't want to energy.

Now you keep that in mind. You keep that in mind when you say that i'm not cool anymore, the future C, E, O of apple said, I know you .

probably said you're the call. What aren't you?

Well, I would just like to state for the record, if we talking about kind, I in this year have met the current and potential future C, E, O of apple. So I mean.

I, L, T, A sixty .

five year old men.

nice .

guy. Tim cooks a nice guy, and he a bit of, we should do some follow up, follow up one number one, which is, uh, Stephen has named our group chat to roommates in honor of to me.

yes. And I had no idea what that was all .

about for me to see. Like what is going on? I don't know what's going on.

I was, I was behind in my reading, and I had no idea what that was all about.

Very confusing for A T J, uh, for obvious reasons. But we have, we do have some other follow up. Uh, I U S A point eighteen A, I U S A cool baby.

I S A point one that would be fun. I O S eighteen point one is now available, which brings up at the first round of apple intelligence features. Um john, I know that you wrote about that and million wrote about the uh, mac stories. We've been talking about this for a while there out now. Um a funny thing I was kind of talk with my wife about the apple intelligent stuff, just kind of i'm sure what we'll do this we'll talk to our partners because we care about this stuff so much and SHE was like all i'm interested in seeing what this stuff is about right?

Um but I ended up urging her to just wait for eighteen point two because I just don't think it's worth for her like changing her language singing because and I actually recommend this to most people like if you're not in the us, I I would I think you would be fine to wait for eighteen point to um if your language she's going to be added because I I really feel like eighteen point to is the Better overall package if you're interested in the stuff. But I I did do that. I did do the language changes thing and realistically really affect me at all, especially when at one point in debate, a process they made IT, that you didn't need to have your like your language like that.

Your language should protect the keyboard. Like your keyboard language, sorry, as A U. S.

english. So I could have my like language. Phone language is america.

She's very computing. My region could stay U. K.

My phone language had to be U. S, english, but my keyboard could be U. K, english. I don't wish that on anyone having to work out. Set that up.

yeah. I I wish I were in the meeting where they decided how to split up all these features because I can see why they did IT the way they did on the other hand. And I think it's because eighteen that o felt felt pretty light. And eighteen one, if those things had been in eighteen, IT would felt like a more like a Normal update, I think, right. But but they were still so far off of having the image stuff ready that I guess they decided to drop some stuff in between.

I feel like as well because I was just as you were talking about thinking like what would have been the harm and just waiting and just doing IT all in december, right? If you're promoting in september and it's not coming out in october, why not wait for december, you know? But then I thinking I do still think that jan mogi is going to be popular, especially with the way the apple of implement in the keyboard. So I think that there is something to be said about like staging IT a little bit like not having that the first apple intelligence release.

Yeah, well, they need more time to test out the image stuff too. I mean, it's we'll talk about that.

But I want to see if you to have a some details on this meeting where a apple have said the the apple and intelligence coming to the E. U. In April like this, isn't the A A, basically the photo terms and conditions secret legal notes at the bottom of newsroom park? Do you know what? Like this seems weird that they would announce this way.

Also seems weird that there has been there has not at least been a public acknowledgement from anyone or the E. U. events.

Cent like IT seem like this couldn't launch in the E. U. So how are they doing IT?

I think that that there are ongoing conversations between the E. U. And apple. So I think that that my guesses that when they say April, they've struck a deal, they just yeah no one no one gonna talk about being a deal .

about yeah I mean, about IT is what IT is right? That they've said they were having conversations with regulators in europe and uh, they seem confident that by April, they will be able to release apple intelligence in the E. U.

Um I do think it's a little strange that uh, you find out you know about this. We I would not all apparently if you wanted know everything about like if you, anna, have all of the E U. ater.

Risks in apple's press releases. You just get up, sign up for the irish newsroom. So the I reach apple news room is my new best friend because apparently if you in island, you get all defensive details about the european union that you don't get on the other newsrooms.

So um yeah go I wish newsroom I guess but yeah, they they have most certainly you know struck a deal with the e with the E U. And so really suck. I think we're like we're looking at um eighteen I U eighteen point three or coming out in April and that's gonna IT. Yeah the language is .

a little bit had too. I think if I remember right something the fact that most of the features will become into the year or something along those lines I yeah .

that's interest is just .

weird because like at first, I was like all but the data rules the D M A. Like it's not gonna work. Like because of the way it's written so they who's who's changed something, you know or was that misunderstood from the beginning, right? Like kids is a confusing thing to me at least maybe people just got Carried away .

yeah the way I look at IT, I feels like to me that apple has had ongoing continual conversations with the regulators in europe ever since the very beginning. And the last thing you want to do is like hold that out to the public and make somebody look bad when you're having sensitive negotiations. So they've gotten apple has gotten comfortable enough with what they are hearing from the eu to be able at least say that the stuff is coming in the spring. But my guess is like the details have not been totally worked out, which is why they still time to go and why it's hedged a little bit.

I I would go one step further and I will say that the deal that they have cut with the E. U. Is that by the time apple intelligence launches in europe, it's going to support multiple AI sources in addition to tragedy ity.

right. So is what i'm going to read you from the uh from the the actual foot out that was in the irish newsletter. This April, April, intelligence features will start to roll out to iphone and ipad users in the E. U. This will include many of the core features of apple intelligence, including writing tools, gem oji, a redesign theory of Richard language understanding ChatGPT integration of more.

My bet on this is that they will not have support for personal context because that was the issue, right? I was like using somebody's data yeah and that's what custom context does, who knows? But they here a couple of potential things right is like that's when german ize coming on board or they they're basically cutting IT off there because these are just like these features are just that, that they like the general of A I stuff that really exist. But the idea to using somebody's day of an A I system, like I think if memory serves, that was what people were suggesting, was the reason that .

they might struggle. But if I remember right to when the press release talked about the visual thing where you press the camera control and you can point something that there was some language in there about later, there will be third party tools available. And that to me, I think that that means other A I tools, not like third party developers. I think that means other services that are available AI type services. So I wouldn't be surprised everything more, I mean.

make sense come up that visual intelligence thing, I don't understand what i'm supposed like. It's really weird told me I had a cozy .

coffee mug on my desk IT sure did.

It's an odd feature that what it's like that feels like something like we know how that should act because we've seen products attempt to do this or like products say they can do this, but like at least visual intelligence right now. I I don't really understand them anyway, let's move on from this. We're going to come back to we're going have an A I sandwich for today's episode. We're going my favorite everyone srt tasty electrical. But I actually want to talk about something which she's just genuinely hot warming and was a really interesting story, which was john, can you talk about your experience with the airport's pro to hearing features?

Oh yeah, so I I figured, you know this is a new feature that i've read up about a lot and haven't read about IT even. You know there's a great story on the verge by Chris walsh about IT and Chris talked about how he was a little has know how was kind of stressful taking IT. And so I just very curious about what the process was like because going into IT, I didn't really know what to expect.

And I know just because of my age and my past, I I have some here in loss. And my wife certainly reminds me of IT frequently. And so I said, well.

no, can we can we talk? And when we talk about that for .

second 是 for gender.

like how like how like good .

that I will that I don't listen to her yeah I turned her out or I can hear her so yeah .

or the TV too loud. Are you sure you're not using this physical limitation as an excuse?

Well, I guess I was glad to find out .

that I had a .

little hearing loss because of john I. L.

Absolutely, but yeah know everything for the content, right? So I decided it's time to take a series test.

So there is some.

Everything this is like me in federico doing eye tests in our living groups.

It's not too. Yeah i'm so like i'm not trying to be cynical but um I thought I would make for a good story depending on how I turned out.

Were you at any point to be like, boy, I really hope I do have some here in loss.

So no.

I federal.

My concern was that I would tell me that my hearing loss was so bad that I need to go see a doctor. That's what I didn't want to have. Unfortunately, I did not.

I did find out that I have mild hearing loss in one of my two years in my life. Not not really a particularly big deal. But what was neat was what there couple of things about this. First of all, the process of doing the hearing test is super, super well done that you can tell that a lot of thought went into IT.

The design is really good IT kind of puts your if if you're anxious about at all, I kind of put your in in your nervous ties because I felt like by the time I was actually taking the test that I was ready for IT in a way, and I was just a lot of through screens, I was able to, like, listen to a tone before I actually took the test. So I knew what I was listening for, which was kind of nice. And then I went through IT and IT IT steps you through first checking your surroundings to make sure that your room, the Jordan, is quiet enough, and mine was.

And then IT checks whether your airports are in your ears of the good seal, because IT needs that. And then you start taking the test one at a time. And the first time I did IT IT failed because I was sitting in my kitchen table, a truck went by, and IT was enough noise, even though I wasn't super loud, that I had to redo IT.

So I retreated to my bedroom, which is little further away from the street and quieter, and I was able to get through the test, and IT showed me that I had the hearing loss. And then once you do that and you set up the hearing assistance, the hearing part of IT all IT really is, is tapping a button because it's you know boosting some of the signals in whatever range of frequencies you're having difficulty with. And I thought, well, here I am.

I'm working at home by myself. I'm not going to be able to test this until jennie gets home. I have somebody to talk to, and I stood up and walk across the floor and I like, wow.

I was immediately floored by the fact that I could hear my footsteps across the floor much more clearly than I did before I took the test. And then I was making lunch, and I could hear, you know, the rustle of the packaging as I pulled food out of refrigerator. And then I went to my office and started typing and I could hear the keys like I hadn't heard them before.

I was all really kind of um IT was really surprising and IT just does that. I mean, IT does what you would expect IT does IT pulls out those frequencies to have trouble with, makes everything more defined. I I kind of finished up my story by talking about how I walk down.

I kind of rode up the story right away because I want to have a fresh my mind, what I was like. And then I walk down a local coffee shop to finish up the the draft. And I left mayor pods, and I was ordering a drink.

And while I was sitting outside and IT was noticeable, being able to talk to the person who took my order, hearing people at the tables nearby, despite their being like a park right next door and a lot of kids running around and making noise. IT was a IT IT was amazing to me. I mean, I really is kind of cool. The novelty of IT has worn off pretty quickly like I noticed that less today than I did yesterday, two days ago.

That's like when you get a new power .

glasses though, right? Yeah exactly. It's very much like that yeah but it's, you know I encourage anybody who thinks that might even IT potentially have some here in lost to give me a try that only takes like five minutes and I can, and I can really improve. You're hearing.

I felt, I know I think this is because I I love you and care for you, but I I felt quite emotion like I felt quite emotional reading the article. I was just think you did a good job with IT like because you you can tell in the way you're writing IT IT was just kind of I get the impression of how much you were taken a back by the .

different yeah yeah and that's why I wanted to writ right away because IT was like, I stood up and I just took a couple steps. I like, wow, what's going? I mean.

I can hear the future.

I can hear my socks on on the wind floor like never before .

you were like, this is what I sound like when I walk.

Like the glory of my socks against the wood is .

almost like a sine from a super hair movie, right? We're like that. You like you've walk on up up to being bit by the radioactive spider and now you've got like extra cool senses, I suppose.

Yeah, IT is a little bit like that. I mean, and I like, going forward, my hearing losses. And so glad that i'm going to be walking around with pods in my years old day.

But I do I do feel like like today, I walked into town again for another reason, just run an iron, and I was wearing my airports and less to new podcast. And like little things like the podcast volume level is lower than I was before, which is probably good for my hearing long term too. yes.

And and the fact that as I was walking down the street, you know a lot of these things are already kind of built into airports with the transparency mode where, you know it's lowering the traffic noises and kind of pulling out other noises a little bit more. What I noticed was it's it's those sounds that you want to hear like people talking that are Better defined and pulled out against the backdrop of what's going on on the street around you and that that i'll definitely wear them for things like that. I suppose what which I tend to be anyway, like if I walk in around doing earns going to have my airports in anyway problem, or if you're like in a loud restaurant, maybe or at a consider or something like that I could definitely see doing IT.

I would to stay for the record, because I feel like I hear a lot of people say, right, like you and you even kind of hit towards like IT being weird that you would go into a coffee shop, speak to somebody of airports. And I don't think weird at all. I don't know why people think this is weird.

Like if I have my airports in and i'm talking to you, you can probably assume I can hear like i'm not listening to something like, right? I don't. I think we need to get over this idea that, like, I have to take one year about out to be able to speak to you like IT, this should be contextual, right? You know, i'm talking to you because i'm talking to you if if I say, oh, wait, sorry, what I can't hear you then you know what I mean then i'm listening something i'm not sure that I fully understand the that why this is like A A social, like a bad social. Q like IT doesn't make sense to me.

I agree, but I think IT happens to be for some people and I think it'll take a while to kind of become Normalized really.

But, but then I must be upset in people all the time.

He was, he had become a happy for me, where I would like what I would walk down the shop to get a coffee. I just naturally would pull my airpower s out as I approach ched the door and dropped in the case and order my coffee, then put him back in as I go. Fine to seat, you know, even want to buy myself.

But but I I didn't. And IT actually was Better because it's pretty loud place, and the woman behind the counter was was pretty quite spoken, so did help very call. Do you think .

you're going? Do you think this is actually gonna change? Your apples use IT.

Do you imagine now that you would like? So you mention a restaurant, let's say, you gennifer going to dinner of restaurant, would you be more likely to put your pots? And so you could .

hear about I don't think so. I'm not sure. I'm not really sure because I have not been that situation here. But I I will say that like last night, he came home from work and I was making dinner and I was making noise in the kitchen and he was like on the couch facing away from me, and he was talking to me and I happened to have my inks. I was listening to a podcast when he got home.

I paused IT when he got home, and as he was speaking to me from the court, could hear her Better. So I definitely would leave them in in a situation like that more more likely than that. And I think in the future, going, you know into town to run errands and things leave them in when I go to the the pharmacy to pick something up or talk to somebody at a restaurant or a shop or whatever IT happens to be, I can definitely see in those circumstances. I haven't really thought you have to say i'm injuries still out, whether I would do IT if we were out to dinner .

together or something for your code. Do you think it's word?

I don't think that is. I mean, it's pretty Normal by now. I mean, it's been eight years since her pods. And yeah I just I don't care about IT anymore and I I don't know I like totally speaking I think people have got ten used to the idea of the other person can hear you even if you're wearing airports alright so yeah think I think we .

are past this um yeah I look forward .

to the follow up yeah let you know. I think it's a generation thing. I think this is a generation thing thing.

Sure good. But yeah, we'll see. We will see how how people react.

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So IT has been new mac week. We were wondering how this is gonna down and basically IT went down vesty. There have been press releases and videos, uh monday, tuesday, wednesday of this week, showing off a variety different makes um they are all all these video. So kind of empathy.

Ed, by john, john is really playing the tim cook role in presentations, right? He set up the thing, send that away to people, comes back to him, goes to someone else, comes back to him to wrap up um Turner is fantastic like I I know I I love him um but but yeah i'm a big fan but genuinely don't like I have a lot of respect for tim cook Johnson is is Better this kind of stuff. I think he is more I think he has more of the personality energy.

He's close such a federally right is not that good. But like he's close to federici, like he's funny like and he can do funny things, right? Like the magni when he islands down, right, very minor when he opens the mac and IT does like the his most's voice .

think you can funny face .

yeah and so he I think he's good at that um but IT overall like just kind of top level. This is an interesting but like weird way to do this where they they basically had a keno and they just cut IT curry pieces yeah, I don't I don't know why they didn't just do this, but maybe they wanted to try this out.

I would say it's been pretty successful, right? Like they got to show off apple intelligence three separate times, right? Like I think that is definitely part of the reason um and they shows some cool features, stuff we can't use, right?

Like like that I would like to have like there's that one demo where she's like is a leg tepper who is gonna be. I think we're get here a lot. I mean, they used to three times this week, right? Like and timer as well. Who I love that they always reference is tim. Everybody else gets the first name, but you can't say and he is tim, right?

right?

So he was going in his timely, whose friend of upgrade we have had tim on on the show bunch time this is a great guy but like that that is a very funny like I know is that like everybody else is like he is a legal you know it's like, oh, back to john like and his timi but like they it's interesting to see these like they're building new figures kind of thing, right?

Like these are the people responsible this thing and like allegra was in all of them and they did a great job. So I I think we get C M more more, but like I think that's part of what I did. This maybe was like we can show all these features, but yeah the the the drivers, the possible thing on the like the website, like where they are filling in the travel information, being able to to say like what can you put the possible in here that's cool yeah I would love to use that. I have no idea what .

i'm going to be to be also like I was thinking about that um the idea of theory feeling information in the web form yeah I don't think that was shown off a wwdc. No, because if that's like there has to be a new shortcuts intent like right? I mean, it's not something that well.

could you be combined with on screen awareness that could maybe on screen awareness take action on the screen stuff?

It's either like a new siri combine with safer thing or is a new type of shortcut integration where a shortcut t action can modify the contents of weapons but maybe just like a safari exclusive.

Um by his question, where where did that come from? Like i'm not trying to nit pick this, but interesting like where in macos IOS would I save my possible information? Like where where was that the password is?

APP doesn't support things like drivers and nobody could also be something .

that about the idea is that you could be something that you have in notes or that you have in photos. Apple intelligence, yeah. And any theory, apple intelligence with its semantics index knows, oh, this item is a passport and it's the person's passport because IT matches their face. You know, all these .

things possibly right? But this is interesting. Like, because but where like this is this is the the this has been the question of time, right? Like this is interesting, but how? right? And i'd like to see more practical use cases, because that is one which would be great, right for me 来， that I like put my address in here, you know, like this does Better at an auto film, right?

Like, or just fell at this form for me, it's just, it's just my name, my address, my building address, my shipping address, my credit card, my phone up, right? Like they should be able to do all of that, right? And that would be great if you could just say, like fill out and mentioning about we haven't seen this before.

What of an interesting is and did you see what anthropic are doing like that? They showed off a demo of like filling in the form and in that maybe psycho. Okay, we think like we know we can do stuff like that.

Maybe we should show IT. Now I don't know. Anyway, I talk about the products. I want to rank these by the ones that I find the most interesting to stop with the mac mini.

This is the thing though, right? Like the other stuff is like much of much of what we expected, you know, like is easy kind of expect. But the mac money is like if they actually going to do this, they did IT.

It's a five by five inch cube like square sorry, it's kind of like the dimensions of IT looking down. Um still has a bunch of I O Ethan hdge DMi three hundred bolts on the back to U S B C on the front, headphone jack power button on the bottom and will come back to that. I'm just gona run three suspects, right? First, carbon neutral mac eight, five percent less aluminium is part of the ways they did this.

Uh, features m4， M4 pro essentially faster， more in all cases. And the m four pro has the quite world's fast to C P U core H D. M four pro is seventy five percent faster memory bound with then I guess am three or m two pro or whatever.

Good for ai, Better way tracing, faster neural engine. M four pro has done about five. The m four has done about four sixteen inking vice of memory of standards, still staying at five nine in nine. I'm i'm gonna say, does anybody have anything you want to talk about? But I would just say that to you, anna, talk about one of about five.

I don't know. Really exciting. There are no basically no access service at this point. Um I believe like a cup of companies announced literally a couple of cables and a couple of extra asses.

I'm sure now that the um now that apple is doing this, i'm sure that C E S. Will be an exciting time for thunder, preferable like the five of les. I think we will see uh um how would do you say a deluge of yeah of the able to five accessory yeah mean you try .

to stuff more than me. Is that weird for a computer company to support this before IT of a situation .

like it's a bit of a chicken and ec problem? Because if you don't have the computers which support for the standard, why would you even make the accessory, right? So IT has to come like a couple of things needed to happen.

Uh, apple needed to add support for something about five to their computers and on the windows side until needs to intel or clack whatever is in charge now. Uh, A M D, like they need to introduce their day top and laptop controllers four hundred five in their, in their C P U, so that that most likely gonna the next step in windows land, in windows land. That's also going to up open the door for things like ten, about five E G P U, for example.

And that would be a really interesting comparison between us before version two and on the about five. But yeah, everybody was basically waiting for apple to come up with their own, uh with their computers and with their thunderous five passive cable, which is also something that we have now. We don't have an active cable, meaning we are limited right now to a one meter about five cable. Uh, I am looking forward to the time about five, three meter active cable. That's most likely going to show up at some point within the next year.

What does that mean? Why stop at? Why stop at three meters federal?

You should keep what thunderbirds really hard to do. Distance is um it's like a it's like a any love relationship is really hard to do long distance without their boat. Yeah means mike, that basically i'm gonna try my like I don't know the proper words personally to describe this, but basically, an active cable is actively sending an electric signal throughout the entire cable to make sure that there's no data loss in the three meters of the cable.

Yeah, I think that there's an amplifier and essential to sustain over longer distances.

Yeah, yeah. What is this passive cable? But IT is one meter, so it's short.

There's no data loss. There's no data degradation. As he moves through the cable because it's short yeah.

you know, what are your things about the make money?

Oh, I love the mac money. I mean, I if if this computer had been out at the time I bought my mac studio, I would have bought a high and magnesium instead, because that's effectively what my m one max max studio is, because i've got a ford tear by sd in IT and h sixty four gigs of memory. And that is essentially the high end of the mini.

The mini actually can go to eight terribles of storage, but IT kept out at sixty four gig bites of memory. And that's plenty fine for me and and that's great for, you know, even the most taxing things I do, which tend to be like audio editing and a little video editing here and there are. So i'd be really happy with a lot of thing.

And I I think what we're seeing is something that i'm sure is near and dear to federico's heart, which is were seen really the most modular of max ever. I mean, you could easily take this thing, put IT in a little case, and Carried on out to your coffee shop with the, you know, with a portable display in a keyboard and track pad IT. It's really, it's really gona fit into, I think, a lot more context than even the small money did .

before five minutes. If I wear a mauser, I would be totally over this, like I would. This is the computer I would buy. No.

super one for.

yeah. Super modular mac mini that is so, like, basically tall apple T. V. I mean, it's lovely. Yeah.

you mention the max studio, right? And yeah, I think the thing about this machine IT starts to five one and one. You add anything to that h place configuration and you you you're getting up towards maxi dia like the configuration that I want. Now all i'm doing is increasing the and the storage. It's two thousand three ancient, nine nine pounds.

Yeah, I .

right. I M four pro, right? So I gone. M four pro, right? I've going up from the base, so I am form. Yeah, I want a little bit more RAM. I want a little bit more a storage.

Think them what that staying bases and to twenty four hundred like it's it's, it's a, it's a, it's a big old jump but this computer is like, I mean, i've been waiting this for a while. I'm using an m one. I'm using an m one max because I didn't know what I was.

I have an m one max macbook pro that I use for recording IT in old. My production stays in my daily computer is that comes back my main. And i've been wanting to get a max tudie for a while and was deciding I would wait until they upgraded the max studio. And now like this will be my next computer i'm just not sure i'm going to buy and think I wish just a little bit surprised at that Price jump, right? Like I thought this was gonna be maximum nineteen nineteen to get what I wanted you know is is much more money than I would have expected considering where IT starts and considering basically that really then it's a couple a hundred pounds more to get a max studio with basically the sense facts. And I know that when I have picked the new max studio, I know obviously be more expensive, but like it's still just a surprise to me anyway.

Yeah, I mean, you could definitely get into you know over four thousand dollars for a mac, many now, which is really, really something I mean, that's a wild. But at the same token, by the same token, you can speak this out to be comparable to a max studio, at least a certain range of the max studio that's out there today. Now of course, apples gonna read the max studio and it's gonna leap forward.

I suppose I do wonder that a little bit like how did the how does the top end the mac many relate to the mac studio, which then relates to the mac pro? And is there you know, is there gonna a be overlap? Is there really room for all three of those things, you know, from the very high and mini .

go to a get rid of the mac pro, right?

You would think that that's where this is going because I would think that now that the mac mini is approaching on the bottom of the maxi studio, you d pushed the studio up to wear the the pro is now essentially .

what is they powerful SE though there at the same level, right? Yeah now.

but then you lose expansion. Now that's the thing. You lose the expansion if you get rid of the pro, that's the biggest thing.

Can anyone tell me what you can actually expand in a mac? I don't know IT was you just put S D inside like they .

have to be a problem and not anymore. They have to be a pro. Mike, we're not really .

not pro enough. We need Steven, you know. But like I just I feel like I mean, up been banging his jump for a while that the mac pro is kind of just like to me, just kind of pointless now because they don't have the support, for example, GPU and stuff like that.

The macpro is the way I look at the the make pro is a very expensive statement for people who really want one because like I mean, yeah for for a lot of us in this industry, i'm not talking about three D R S. I'm not talking about like academics doing DNA research on like for a lot of people listening to this show, it's more of like you know it's the equivalent of I don't know actually i'm going to say that because i'm part of the problem in an other industry, it's like equivalent of getting really fancy headphones yeah because I know I can tell you know I can tell the different .

is I the computer file?

Who wants .

those frenchy needs the computer.

the base really the open expansion inside of the mac pro provides good resonance for the C P U. wine. Um so that i'd really like to to have that yeah I mean, I I know at this point, like most of those process like the top top and process cases, the maxi you can handle them and IT is an edge, edge, edge case.

Now I am sure for the mac pro. And I just I wonder if the people in that bucket, if they're still best of by the mac, like I just don't, i'm already sure that I I can kind of get my head around IT anymore. I think the the intel mac pro makes so much more sense because they had the ability to use cards you could yeah actual cost that you could put in nothing.

imagine that.

But this doesn't so has the ability to do that. But apple and support must stuff that people would want to put in there.

So yeah.

anyway, I don't want to talk about the my property voices. There are other podcasts that will do this.

There are there is a problem in a way, I think the apple faces though is that the m for is so powerful that that I don't know. I think people are going to start to realizing goodyer with a lot less computer than they have thought the otherwise would have needed in the past. Mean, you can certainly use an ipad pro with an m for in IT and do final cut in in IT and all that kind of stuff. I mean, the software holds is back compared to them back to a degree. You look at somebody like Chris li does all of his youtube editing on an ipad, and it's totally doable.

anyone? Uh, the mac mini looks sick. I think the thing is so cold.

I love that theyve got they got a bunch ports on IT, which i'm happy about even on they just standard them for a version. They got bunch ports um which is great. The power about on the bottom don't care.

Um I don't I don't care about this all. I know that some people care about this. Uh, I just put my max sleep every night.

I used to turn my mac off, but now I just put my max to sleep. Um I guess if you know I I guess what I would say is like a special form for you. I don't put IT upside down. I know what to tell you, right? Would there be any home and put them upside down like just put IT upside.

So it's so little in line, it's not going to be that hard to get your finger under the impressed the button if you need to do IT. And I am like you, I don't turn I don't turn my mac on or off almost ever. So it's not not really an an issue for me. I love that it's just kind of right in between the size, the old mac mini and apple T V. It's the five inches, nothing and two inches.

All I love IT I think is amazing. Uh, something I thought you would like. Filter s taking through the tax. Bx, the m four ship supports display. Ys, that of up to eight k hundred and twenty hours.

Wasn't that a mistake? Like some people uh, debuted last night.

Well, I mean it's it's on all the pages still. So if he's been to bunk, I don't understand what that would .

mean because I I think I saw something a messed on last night.

Well, the macbook pro text back page they published today.

oh, maybe was the imac the problem? Maybe.

but the the mac many the macro pro and I found us in the I like page yesterday, they support displays that are significantly high power apple's country saying which is exciting. Uh, they do A K one twenty on the and four. The problem will do four k to four as well, and they also have displayed two point one five, about five.

Yeah, I was the the mistake on apple's website was on the imac. I'm looking at a mac rumors article, uh, has updated uh, hours after he was published, type of updated the text spec for the new ima C2Confirm tha t the tan k cor e m f or che ap con figure doe s not sup port uh eig ht k u p to one hun dred and twe nty hea rts but ins ide six ty hur ts alr ight.

Well the m four range does do that because IT just depends on the computer just not the I like um but the the m for mac mini will do one display of up to five kate sixty hours thunder, one display of up to eight k at sixty hearts or four k over two forty. And then what if you go for the m for pro you can do more, more and more. And I just think that is exciting.

I mean, I I really want them to make a like studio display pro, right? That's what I want. I want pro motion on a twenty seven inch display .

you need to fear such for when you play a cyberpunk .

in february. Yeah can't way. It's gonna amazing. Uh so mk t pro that was released today.

Um the mark with pro comes in the m4 M4 pro and m for max options， the m4 max monster of a computer。 I'm really again, like all we really get is what apple shows us, and i'm very intrigued for the speed tests and stuff like that of this one in and all of the bench marking will be interesting. Uh the mac with pro now has free fundable ports. So one more than before um and that is I think that on the the base one I think has three now I think right .

which I think IT is part .

of that russian thing like whether with this maxim of in russia, I think they had an extra support. So three uh three sound about ports they go up to, uh that about five on the problem, the max version and is only four on the regular. The ygene cycle is come to the can't way up to twenty four hours about relied.

The screen is brighter. They offer a nano texture option on the map. Twelve make a pixel cento stage camera sixteen gig about is the memory standard just the same on the mac?

Many that's on the fourteen inch. You get twenty four gig about a standard on the sixteen inch. Starting Prices remain the same.

cool. Yeah, I mean, it's a great. I've been using an m three macbook pro for about a year now and it's a fantastic computer. I mean, it's a bit chunky.

It's a little heavy if you I mean, I think I personally prefer an air and i'm kind of waiting for and four and five year before before I upgrade. But I do like the pro. I mean, the pro is for the longest time now it's been the fastest computer i've been using. But but now it's the the ipad pro is actually the fastest computer. amusing.

I love my mabu a so much I am to I love that computer I can imagine using IT for years you know like i'm i'm not pushing them to um for anything which is all of the computer but and bank Price is very popular um and also I think IT is a the of of all of the machines that apple make. I think that the makeup row is the one that is most likely to see the year of the year upgrades.

right? Like I think that's .

true if you're building at an x code, right? If you can get any percent Foster Better? A .

yeah, I think you're right. I think you're episode te with right them and that is the one that that makes the most sense that those of the people are most likely upgrade on a more frequent basis than an error. Anything else I think .

you so be cal, um I don't know this is time to say that the macbook care uh also now six boys of m um which is the same as the imac which is the first uh of the week which is now in and four sixteen vice of RAM standard king up to thirty two quick bites, they have new shades of colors that keeping the same options, but new versions of nano display, textual option twelve, a pixel camera, all four U S, B C. Ports on the macbook, on the imac now are think about four and also the same star in Price. This is a very healthy, good week of mac announcements.

I think, yeah, yeah, that was good. I mean, these are a lot of things that people want for a long time. I think it's worth noting with the camera that this is a center stage camera, which these max didn't have before. They were that still ten A D P. But it's a Better sensor with a widder field of view that allows center age to work.

Good point. I didn't think about that when I called on the stage cameras. I was just I was, it's kind of washed over me ah that makes this cool.

Yeah, it's just the same, same resolution, different, different angle, which allows that that software feature to to work. I guess I was .

thinking today when I was looking over this, looking a note, looking at apples where page is and stuff like that. I think that right now, the mac lineup is apple's best product lineup. Like there are good options in basically every category that they sell.

The options are clear, is easy to know what you want. When you go into IT, you you can like, do I want my computer to have a screen? Do I want IT to be a laptop? right? Like these are like very simple question you can ask yourself.

And then from there is, I think you are easy to understand what you're looking for. And I think that you have the luxury of making choices about huge sacrifices because all of the base models of everything are good and like, especially even Better. And now thanks to apple intelligence, like they have all got good ramin. And now like I think at the moment, they just have a very strong line up for products.

I think IT because like you know, you compare IT to the iphone, you compare IT to the ipad and you compare IT to the apple watch, all of these product lineups, I think there is at least one product of prey significant caveat, and I and I don't really feel that way for the mac except for the mac problem. But nobody d's thinking about that. I think I even the max studio today, you buy that max studio.

Now that is an incredible computer, even though it's older, but like it's very powerful. And as a ton of in like every time lie out and that's what you want, right, right? You going to be able to get that some.

I just think I don't know you guys think about that same. I think like overall right now, the mac lineup is just very healthy. I think yeah.

I agree. I think it's easy to pick because like I look at all these max and I know exactly what I get if I were in the market to buy one. And I can't say the same as easily with other .

things kind of safe for the iphone. Look, look at the amount of questions have been this ro right? Like, uh, that should you? You d think the iphone was a slam dunk, right? Like everybody knows exactly what iphone they want.

But this year, IT seems like the main topic of conversation around the iphone sixteen line is which one should I buy and maybe i'm good with a different one than usual, right, like that. Is that potentially showing that you're line up isn't a strong and is clear where like for the mac, you can do the ipad is to a point like this. But I think that the ipad has a lot of inconsistencies and also where like I do every mac lineup is, I think, being put to its full potential.

The ipad is not right, right, right. You you whatever makes you buy, you can very easily use IT to its full extent. But that is not the case of the ipad, right? Like this is a question that we were ever year, right? Because it's like, oh yeah, I pretty powerful so I can do you a lot with IT like I can't I can't push IT is not do a lot but I can't push IT to that level right? Like yeah the the macbook pro with them for it's the same trip.

right? No.

absolutely kind of it's like yet I I would take its party still a bit more powerful than the m for in the ipad but yeah it's the same family is .

yeah the same especially the same thing what you can do with IT yeah so I just think right now, I think apples this is in pretty on this map line up. And how did they say a lot of because they I would .

say that they're telling a very compelling story right now with the mac lineup and with the airports lineup.

yes. Well, yeah, except the airport max, but we forget about fashion airports .

max are the macpro of of that.

Yes, that's a great, a great point. Although I I don't know if the mac process as fashionable as I know to .

their way more popular than the mac.

a little cheaper.

do you think? I bet this I wonder if his ster saying about popular, do you think apple make more money each year from the area?

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yes, that is a terrifically while ping to consider likely because what you'd have to sell IT, like ten POS of ports max for for one mac pro, yeah, you know what? Yeah that that easy. I joined. You have any big picture thoughts about the mac line up?

Now i'm not really not that beyond what we've already said. And I think i'm i'm really happy with the way this week turned out it's I think it's a great lineup and really puts apple on a good place going into the new year with a nice lineup that you know this this week was strategically, I think, for the company is smart, one that they ve got learnings called tomorrow.

And so they can go in having told the world not only about their great new max, but also apple intelligence three times before they go talk to the analysts about IT. And you know from a from a business stamp point that's important. And I think they they did a good job kind of, I think, pitching this indirectly to wall street.

This is a bad week to be done. Ball his or Jason now no.

I know I really I I dread tomorrow because i've had a busy week on night.

three set mac announcements, then the earnings school by youtube should comes .

around .

friday well and talked us about ferals.

Um well yes and I come with a twist.

No, I mean of course you .

do course do well.

it's not what you .

think course.

So I thought, well um there's now U S B C magic keyboard and U S B C magic track part. Let me try those again. Um lately I ve just been working with the ipad pro in its magic keyboard at my desk so that I see both the ipad on display and my internal my external display I use both at the same time, I keep usually like something like ivory on the ipads display and then all the other windows like for example, right now i'm recording, I have ivory on the ipad and I have safari discord notion and messages on the external display but I thought, well, um let me try again with those USB C P refills. I can take advantage of a little work around that.

I wrote on mac stories I think he was last year, uh, to sort of fake your way around having climbed al model on an ipad. It's not really clumsy mode. You're basically just telling the ipad not to lock itself when you close the cover of the magic keyboard.

It's really not capital mode. And IT comes with a whole bunch of limitations. Like, for example, what if you have to use face I D, the ipad thinks it's unlocked and tries to find your face, but I can't us anyway.

I thought i'm gonna try fake collection al mode again, uh, with new prefers. They arrived today and um much to my surprise. So I don't know if I got a faulty unit or I don't know if it's because I have ipad h my ipad pro running ipad O S sitting point two beta.

The magic track pad doesn't work. Um none of the multitude in gestures are recognize, actually, none of the multitude gestures are recognize. I cannot even scroll with two fingers with this magic track.

But yes, now could IT be that the ipad of sitting point two beta doesn't have the necessary driver for the brand new U. S. B.

C. Magic track pad? Most likely, I would bet that's what's happening here.

I have the latest data. This successful just came out. This typhoid is not working. But I don't know. Maybe it's a sign that I shouldn't keep IT. You know, maybe it's, I don't know, because IT, once again, I was already stretching IT with my fake claim mode.

And maybe this track by the networking is a sign from the universe telling me, now teach, just return these successes and keep using your ipad with the magic keyboard, even when you're working at your desk. So IT was nice. Charging them with U. S, B, C, there was cool. That's all I will say.

It's it's a shame, right? Like it's a shame. I mean, I feel like when when we spoke with Jason about the preferred and we drafted what we would like to say, uh, that IT is was very unlikely that we would get any other things that we wanted.

But that is all such as sad to have gotten nothing other than U. S. B. C.

Very interesting that um and I don't want to to start a new gate here. Interesting that people in this world are saying that somebody else on this cord, on the real this cord was having similar issues where their mac, not even a nip at their mac, was picking up the new magic trackpad as a mouse. Therefore, Normal li touch gestures were uh, being properly recognized.

I wonder if this is a uh, the might be an update, right? That might be when she's not being recognized fully yet or something maybe if you're on a bate or or something could be an issue.

But if you were a gate coupes, college magic gate.

Yeah, okay.

I call image gate and do a little quick video put on youtube and see if you get on. Good more in america. Come on. You can, if you can do IT.

you can beat Stephen. I could learn from the master right now, but sn says not here you .

talking about I was, I was thinking about this the other day. I was using my ipad pro and I was on my homework reen and was, uh, I was tapping days on the fantastic al widget to see what was going on. And every time I tap today, I could hear the processor in my in my apple pro a tap of day and I could hear IT like, I could hear the wine just for a second. You like.

h wow, really.

Yeah.

nothing else on my ipad was doing IT.

But if because it's .

a pretty loud.

why it's pretty, I unable to hear.

But your efforts and you'll be be here and everything and at you, yeah, absolutely.

I hate dar all this about the profile because that's the only thing I bought this week and minor coming tomorrow. I'm surprised you ve got them already .

if well um yeah and you know what can I say? You know U P, S. Unity really works.

Yeah guess so.

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Yes, I will say that you just mention landing on good morning in america. I would say that if I went ahead and shared on social media some of the images that are being able to create with image playgrounds in this beta, I think IT would be a pretty big deal yeah in the sense that i've been able to create and you guys have seen them yes. So i'm not i'm not suggesting anything without evidence. I've been able to create some really deeply concerning images um by using a specific prompt that I don't wanna share, but you guys can read IT in the sheets um and that's been unsurprising but still concerning yeah uh because I know that you know you can trick these systems right if you're using just the right words and maybe we were thinking of apple must have built uh an incredibly you sand boxed safe environment well I can tell you it's not especially in this first data of a teen point to um i've been able to create some really awful things um none of them involve nudity so at the very least he does seem like um none of apples models were trained on uh that sort of adult content um but yeah being able to create some really this star bing images otherwise especially from from a uh political and historical perspective, that's what I will say. Yeah I think that's .

that's a good way to put that right. Yes, I think that is important to yeah to stay that is the wording that you're using, I think is correct. And even just one of these things of like so in the context of disturbing political historical things, right? That's the context that were describing here that these images aren't like they're not like inner of itself bad. The problem is .

they're not graphic, is the way they .

are not graphic? No.

they're not graphic. The problem is, is like this should if if you're effectively gone rAiling, this is the obvious thing.

You got her out. yes. yeah. The thing of most surprising because the prompt accepted something that in that context, for example, say a location that I was a requesting um and for example, requesting laughing at that specific location or smiling at that specific location or having a chickle at specific moment in time that that was all those were in instructions that I used uh IT should have been god railed any wasn't yeah yeah .

that like maybe you don't necessarily want to exclude some of these things, but that there are words that you would use around them that that wouldn't but anyway, like that that is one thing but that is one thing.

And so all that set aside, you like aside, I don't anna, share this image images. If I police listening, you want to get in touch I will parly. Uh, and maybe I should submit this as feedback at some point uh, but yes.

I think you should I think you should anything the tools that make that very easier to do?

Yeah um but all that side, I will say that um I just .

look at the most recent one .

so i've also been having fun um creating images of my friends and sharing them with my friends and by fun I mean um cringing really are those images for how bad they are. That's terrible just today. H let's see what I created today.

There I there is no good, there is no good idea.

right? I I ask for john as coon .

and sure enough it's created .

its own version of playing this.

I I cannot IT will not expect jn as a dog like a interest as a dog won't allow you to do that john .

john added an extra pair of years um on top there's .

like .

runners on top of the human ears. I asked for mike as a gondolier you can see that is sure enough mike wearing a gonda er hat with some gondolas you know typical from vanny italy in the background a my expression is uh horrific uh but listed under to the prompt um there I believe last night I asked for Steven as a school police officer .

and he did look exactly like the news .

and also as a distress Fisherman.

I mean, the thing there is no we can keep going into but not I think it's that I mean, essentially the over description is you could create something that kind of looks like someone kind of sometimes bad than others, which is weird. You can use the same images like completely to different people, uh, kind of looks like someone.

The quality of the imagery, like the actual resolution of the imagery, terrible like you zoom in at all than anything and is a disaster like yeah my overall feeling on this. Looking at this stuff, the image, playground stuff, how could you be proud of this? Yeah, that's what I coming back to and and I feel like I think people missing let me feed back.

I think i'm too hard on this. I don't. This is my feelings on this. If you don't like IT, then you know that's IT. I just don't understand how how how you could be proud of this output because it's .

not good is my is my take and I have and I have a uh uh a postscriptum at the end right now with this image playground apple is in its, uh, Wilson ith eating spaghetti A I generated video. Yeah, it's like they're basically made journey three years ago.

So when I after trying this, when I see those reports that apple feels they are at least two years behind, I believe those reports and I believe they are correct because this is like this is exactly the typical output of my journey from three, two, three years ago. Um at the same time, I think you can potentially save je mog. I think je mog probably most train j mag is good enough because they've trained IT on their own M O G, which are my opinion the best in the base um and so jee mog is ax is is good enough. Je j is fun and good enough. Image playground and I have been tested the I don't even know is the image warned available .

in notes I have that is but like I haven't even tested yeah either it's kind of it's not adama. I'm not really that particularly interested in that feature. You like it's kind of being realistic that I am interested in geologic because I actually think it's a good idea. I'm interested in image playgrounds because I think it's a disaster and function.

Talk about like and I think magic, magic one seems more like a part. Look to me a lot with I don't know why someone would actually use that. Maybe there's a useful IT. Yeah I looking at these, I mean, one of my favorites is Steven hack and smoking a cigarette where the cigarette is flooding mid air, alright, so that they just give you an idea and then you like mike homes in on his eyes, and they are pointing in different directions. Eyes me so bad.

like everybody so bad. I like these weird walls. It's like, basically it's you've seen this style of image. And the main reason you've seen this style of image is everyone were sharing them a lot a year and a half ago, because people using different tools to do this.

And like the did image playgrounds in and of itself, whatever right? Like should make me an image of a Sunny day with a mountain and bunch trees. Like, whatever the reason this is a problem is like, like I, I cannot like I.

I went in two image playgrounds today, and IT shows me the ability to create images of my two year old. Now that, right, like, come on, right, I shouldn't be doing this. I will not do that.

Like, I shouldn't have to all like exact for as someone in my follow library, like at the moment, were being messes to each other because we're good friends, right? Jason's s grief in me, i'm grief in Jason federals grief in me, i'm grief in him, right? But like you could and this you can make images, may, and people gonna like, you know, because why? Why I can, all I need is one photo of you.

Now that I thought you would need, like lows, you just need one photo of someone. And you can, you can use that. And I just let's.

let's say that I to test this out, I am downloaded from wikipedia the photo of a past dictator and loaded up in image .

playgrounds, really.

And he couldn't, thankfully, in this case, couldn't figure out to the the facial hair is what i'm gonna right.

But but you were able to make an, oh yeah.

oh yeah, I did make a version of that person. Yes, yeah, ah, yeah, absolutely yeah.

I mean.

what you mean, by the way, do some, this is, this is clean show. Do some image or recognition, you know, for got sick. This is a image recondition and be like we don't want to create image.

no but you just shouldn't be to make make images of people. Yeah right? You just shouldn't be able to do .

that like I yeah, it's what you're able to make. But and it's also the quality because you know, the first thing I asked factory going to do is to ask you to make a hand and and make a hand with six fingers. No, it's it's so good shade about this point for A I to do that.

But that just shows where apple is that with this stuff and I with guys on this, I don't like I don't because I was doing my eighteen one review and didn't want to pollute my screen shot. So I didn't installed in until over the weekend. And so I do not have IT yet. But believe me, I ve ve seen plenty .

of IT and I don't like IT. But again, it's like it's a shame because geoge is is a great feature and I think apple him in a well right that like you search for an a oji and if the mojo you're looking for isn't there that make one just like, yeah that is that a good idea right?

Like here is a legion good idea of a thing apple can do and IT makes sense because IT shows on a mogi like in messages and as tap backs and all that kind of stuff and like, that's great. But like the image playground is like that's not very good. Like there are thousands of free apps on the ap store that do about a job in this.

Now what are they doing with that? Imagery is a whole different thing, but it's still like a thing people can do. I just it's just like a weird is a weird feature to me and I just I just trigger to get my head around IT like this feels like a IT feels like there is like a separate company. This doesn't feel like a company with who who I know have great taste because this is is, is tasty. It's part of.

it's part of what the conclusion of my review of eighteen one was all about what the now shouldn't we expect more out of the biggest company in the world with the heritage of apple, of of of championing creators and culture not to do this kinda stuff? I don't know.

I think it's a little much I think that there there we don't know what the lines are, right? Like I and I think this is when I think everyone he's finding their own lines and IT depends on their own contexts. Like, but I I, you know I between the three of us, we have very, very different lines, right?

Like, I use the right tools. I know you two would never right, but we all have our own lines. I genuinely struggle to imagine the person who wants to create imagery of their friends and family.

Like, I don't. If you want to do this, please write in. Like tell me why. Like i'm not trying to say that your wrong, right. I just say I can't get my head around IT. Like if you have used this feature well, you would like this feature like please go to connect your feedback com right and tell me why I just wanted understand .

yeah I think what apple is going for and not doing a very good job that is maybe making this similar to the the gift button in messages that you know you're to send some kind of cute, funny thing clip to somebody, but it's different in nature than that kind of thing, obviously.

But I think that that's that's at least how they're trying to pitch IT is you know and that's why it's cartoony too, right? You're trying to make IT like light hearted in some way and that's certainly how treg federations sees that. When he talks about IT in .

interviews and in videos horses.

I agree the federation has been torn inside .

me for like, five days now. why?

Why not?

why? Your background of why isn't IT just I like, that's a thing too, right? Well, that superhero mom image, that was me.

Mog, right. IT looked like me. Mogi look, a horrifying version of me.

None of these images look like that. No, they looked like weird humans. They're like a really .

bad pixar image away. It's like if you told somebody to make the worst possible invitation of pixar, you could anyway.

Yeah, it's like we have picks .

are at home 看到 the thing。 The thing is particular of one i'm mentioning, that one is like that image of the super ho mom. And like all of the eyes are really large, right? Yeah, I have not seen big eyes like that in imagery that I like.

I do. I don't think these images are made on what is in my phone. No, there is. Potentially they're gonna make IT Better. But like, I haven't seen anybody producing image to me look like this. Maybe they are out there right and like, and I just haven't seen him 嗯， but yeah, if anything.

if anything, some of the images that we've been sharing.

the eyes are too small. That actually the problem.

the goal, one of you, but I mean, you have these beauty little eyes that are too close together.

like they should be more right, right? Like they're trying to make me look like a person. I got like an actual person and I think that's part of the problem. I don't know. I don't want to keep being mad about this stuff, you know but yeah.

we're just gone up. I think we will within the next few months when all of this is past like um people were just start ignoring this stuff.

Yeah, it'll have its moment.

Have its moment. Let you know we're gonna have some fun. You know, at some point you're gonna get cancelled LED.

Because some of some controversy, like the one that are not gna share, is gona pop up because like this system is not perfect um and will just move on because honestly this is like the least exciting feature weapon intelligence, the most boring one and the one that's been um honest, the one with the worst, most useless results. So like uh cool crack for digi really likes to make pictures of his dog. Uh, I think within the next three months the rest of the world one care anymore. So good luck, you know .

yeah no.

follow.

I'm just, I just, I made one here. I'm gna put you in the show. It's lake is just something I just made of me wearing a bi hat in the rain for us.

Lake, sure. This is everything. That's what it's like.

One not a thing. why? Why do a lot of these images put on people the where of the mr. Beast smile and like.

what? what? why? Why is like my skin like speckled like that? And like, what is going on with .

the big you in? man?

Yeah, IT doesn't think IT doesn't a lot where IT has like a really rosy cheeks.

I've noticed that there yeah very strange, very, very strange. But that's where we often know. Again, I would just say again, I love, I love gem moga an idea.

I'm looking forward to plan around a little more. I think like, yeah, let me make. And it's like my expectation is like that feels like it's done in the right way, right? Like apple have because they look like apple edge.

So the training data is apple, right? So apple made their own training day. They trained to an an element, their own data, and then i'm able to make things that look like a oj and send to my friends like that's like that.

Yes, you did IT. Whoever came up without idea had a great idea, and I really like that future. John.

thank you for john ing us. Thank you, john.

What makes back great max, terrible images. Uh, if you want to find you on the line he's job for, he's mac stories, not net or master on uh J O H N V W A W H W S the same on threads is fine. I just know that right? I just know IT from hearing you. Yes, goodby say, no.

we're .

not done. Uh, the incredible. I M Y G E. Uh, thanks so much for listening. Thank you to venture a square space for the support of the show. We've had a good time in october but limit I am ready for Steven to be no .

offence joon offence .

back to back right of just looking .

he's never .

coming back um my hope for next weeks episode like not i'm not going to put this to Stephen directly. Steven, if you listening to this, don't take this as a thing. But if you want to do this like the we mean that you have no idea and you're just coming back.

All the things that you've been wanted to talk about that is my hope for the episodes. Like sevan has like three topics. We don't know what they are and it's like Stephen has been away for a month.

He has things to say that could be my assumption for hub. And I was saying to him, like I like I imagined I think IT was the case. Like this has been the hardest way come.

Sure right? Because like there is actual max stuff to talk about. You nearly got away with IT, but need 的 论 识 点对， thanks for listening to this episode of connected will be back next time.

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