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The Alien Apocalypse: Society After UFO Disclosure (ft. Matthew Pines)

2025/2/18
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@Matthew Pines : 我认为比特币和UAP的演变轨迹存在着惊人的相似之处,它们都从边缘走向主流,从禁忌话题转变为政府高层关注的战略问题。人工智能也经历了类似的演变,从非正式的互联网讨论到影响全球经济的战略层面。这些技术都具有巨大的潜力,并且它们都同时倾向于“是”的可能性,这使得它们成为未来几年战略动态的关键驱动因素。我一直对这些来自边缘的数据点着迷,并试图理解它们所代表的趋势,以及它们对社会、经济和政治的影响。我认为,那些仍然坚持着他们5到15年前所锚定的思维模式的人,将无法很好地跟踪和预测未来几年可能发生的变化。 @Jesse Michels : 我认为您说的很有道理,这些技术确实正在重塑我们的世界。我特别感兴趣的是比特币作为一种对冲工具的潜力,以及它如何能够确保美国未来的偿付能力。我也同意您的观点,即UAP问题需要我们重新思考现实的本质,以及我们与宇宙的关系。

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This chapter explores the intriguing similarities between Bitcoin and UAPs, both initially fringe topics that have gained mainstream attention and government scrutiny. The discussion highlights the shift from taboo subjects to strategic concerns within their respective domains.
  • Bitcoin and UAPs evolved from fringe to strategic national security concerns.
  • Early skepticism gave way to mainstream acceptance for both phenomena.
  • Parallel evolution in their respective communities, with unique cultures, influencers, and conferences.

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Join Jesse Michels on today's episode of American Alchemy as he sits down with Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, to explore how Bitcoin’s meteoric rise mirrors the evolution of UAP disclosure—from fringe taboo to strategic, state-level concern. In this episode, Pines describes the geopolitical and technological forces reshaping global finance, drawing striking parallels between decentralized digital money and the emerging reality of non-human intelligence.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

00:58 Bitcoin's Evolution in Society

02:34 Bridging UAP and Bitcoin Communities

06:09 Political Dynamics and Disclosure

08:44 Exploring the Nature of Reality

10:20 The Intersection of AI, Bitcoin, and UAPs

12:07 The Last Bubbles: Money and Reality

15:36 The Philosophical Nature of Money

17:34 Bitcoin as a Hedge Against Instability

19:51 Institutional Adoption of Bitcoin

26:19 Bitcoin's Trajectory and Future

29:11 Unraveling the UAP Mystery

31:27 The Nature of Disclosure

42:21 The Soul's High Adventure

48:11 Ancient Knowledge Meets Modern Understanding

52:42 The Government and Psionic Capabilities

57:30 The Puzzle of Non-Human Craft

1:06:57 Disinformation and the UAP Phenomenon

1:14:13 Insights from Harold Malmgren

1:16:40 Legacy of UAPs

1:23:26 Trump and UAP Connections

1:36:36 The Role of Institutions

2:08:22 Bitcoin as a Global Asset

2:23:27 Future of Bitcoin and UAPs

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Key Revelations:

UAP Disclosure & Bitcoin: The UAP phenomena and Bitcoin evolved from fringe, taboo topics to strategic issues now under high-level government scrutiny, with early skepticism giving way to mainstream acceptance.

Non-State Innovation as a Catalyst for Change:Bitcoin’s decentralized, open-source network—which pioneered digital scarcity—as a model for how disruptive ideas, once marginalized, can compel a reevaluation of national and global institutional frameworks, much like emerging UAP revelations are challenging traditional military paradigms.

Political Convergence on Disruptive Issues: Policymakers such as Senator Gillibrand have influenced both crypto legislation and UAP disclosure efforts, underscoring a rare intersection where national security debates now address phenomena from unconventional physics to covert extraterrestrial contacts.

Dual-Use Risks in Advanced Physics & Psionics: Breakthroughs in extended electrodynamics, exotic propulsion, and psionic capabilities—demonstrated by secret experiments and scalar wave research—pose serious weaponization risks if misappropriated, threatening to upend global security.

Human Consciousness as a Technological Interface: Our innate psionic abilities, like remote viewing and telepathy, might interact with non-human intelligence, suggesting that human consciousness plays an active role in both the manifestation of UAPs and the operation of advanced, reverse-engineered tech.

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