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Hi, and welcome to happier in hollywood, the podcast about how to be happier, healthier, saying, or more creative, more successful and more productive in a backbiting, superficial, chaotic, unpredictable, fundamentally insane world. I'm sara fain, A T. V.
Writer and producer living in, oh, right outside of L. A. And with me is my high school friend and writing partner.
That's me, liz craft. On this podcast, we talk about being writers and hollywood, how we baLance a career and friendship, and how to survive the war of attrition that is life and less Angeles.
Today we are answering more listening questions.
Yes, we got so many questions. We did part one last weeks. I go back and listen if you haven't.
And today is part two. The first, sir, we have a couple of updates. First of all, it's halloween. We wanted say, happy halloween. Yes.
have a spooky halloween.
Also remember to load. It's just around the corner.
Sure is. So if you haven't made a voting plan, make your plan and get out there and vote yes and then IT less. We are announcing our inauguration ier in hollywood book club.
Yes, we are. We have one book club episode a while back with all three monkeys, happy campers book, which we love, but we didn't keep IT up. So now we're calling this an official book club, and we plan on to actually make IT a club that .
continues on. Yes, we say in August with that forces us. So do IT again.
And the book is we sold murders by Richard osman d, and we'll be discussing and sharing with your comments in december. So if you want to join in on that discussion now, you can join our facebook group to search for happier holy wood on facebook, or you can also send comments to happier and hollywood, a gmail dot com. And sir, do you want to talk a little bit about Richard osman and the book?
p. Richard osman is the author of the thursday murder club book series, which is a wonderful book series, and we've talked about that on the podcast before. But this book, we solve murders, is the first of a new series. So he's launching a new series with this book, and it's really fun. I'm actually reading up for the second time .
right now well, and I am excited, Sarah, because I think IT falls under the cozy mystery category genre of literature and and I am not all that school and cozy mystery. So i'm excited to kind of look at IT, analyze what makes IT a cozy mystery, why are they so satisfying to read of? What kind of feelings do they evoking us? So i'm excited that we picked a cozy mystery for our first book. yes.
And the people on our facebook group seem excited to. We've gotten a lot of very enthusiastic responses. So here we go. Yes.
we solve murders by Richard osmond. You can read IT or you can listen to IT. Okay, sir, shall we dive in?
Lets do our first question is from Cindy SHE says, what is the glue to your long term? Friendship is so genuine and apparently long lasting, your both blessed without relationship. I agree, Cindy, yes.
yes, we are. It's interesting to think about that. It's not something we analyze all the time.
I will say a while back, we picked a word and essential quality that we valued in each other. I valued your intellect and you valued my relentlessness. Yes, but what else is the key? The glue to our long term friendship?
I was thinking about this this morning, and I actually think one key element is trust, which we've also talked about on the podcast. Our friendship is so intertwined with our work yeah that we can even separate them really, but the trust element is so important to the workplace. That's probably a huge part of the glue. I think that's .
a huge part. I think just spending time together. I think the people who you talk to the most and spend the most time with are the easiest friendships to make, maintain.
And then also, I think we kind of try to let each other just be who we are. I think you are Better at that than I am. I think I do more pushing you to be who I think you should be in your Better just letting me be, but I try.
I have to say this, I don't feel that you push me to be someone other than who I am very much. So don't worry about IT.
Okay, good. But I think Sarah, trust is the most important thing.
Yes, trust and acceptance.
Yeah, and we enjoy each other. We like going to vegas for a weekend, which we have have done .
for a long time now IT IT sounds so nice.
We like going on a work trip. I was traveling and I was thinking, gosh, I was there and I were headed off somewhere to do some locations right now. That would be so fun.
That would be so fun. Okay, there a next question from Jones. SHE says, liz, I know you're a end of survivor. Would you ever consider additionally to be on the show? And have you known the contestants who have made IT on?
Well, first, I will say I haven't known personally any of the contestants, but my favorite season was when mike White was on, who is a famous hollywood writer. I absolutely loved watching mike White on survivor. Would I ever consider auditioning to be on the show? Well, I have thought about IT.
Now I have to say I don't think i'd be a very good survivor player because physically, I think I have a really hard time with the chAllenges, and I think I would have a lot of anxiety about the game play. But adam always saying, it's too bad. You can't apply because you would love IT.
But because of my type one diabetes, there is just no way that I could do survival, because the way IT works is I have to have a certain amount of sugar of glue cos basically to survive. And if IT gets too low, I could literally go into a coma right then in there. So I wouldn't be able to do IT because I would just be way too risky.
And I don't think that would be fair to other players for me to be having banana as or whatever about other people work. So I just can't imagine that there's any scenario in which that would work. So unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, I can apply to survivor. But I will say i'm often suggesting to jack that when he's eighteen, he should apply for survivor and he disagrees he's not anxious to do IT, but I would absolutely love to have a friend on survivor. So anybody out there applies and gets on, please let me know.
You have to start recruiting ingles. All the people you know don't come to me.
I'm guessing they don't take a lot of people from, I say Angels yeah never know.
All right. Our next question is from barbra. How often do you put real experiences from your life into scenes? That's a good question. I mean, kind of all the time, I think .
yeah I mean, I think you're always trying on your own experiences. Maybe it's not a literal translation, but it's more of an emotional translation. Also, right now, we are working on something that falls into the family show category. So I think for that, if that went a series, we'd be using a lot of our actual .
experiences. Yes, and we would be asking our writers to draw up their personal experiences as well. I think about adam bell had on fantasy island had such great family stories that we used all the time.
Thank you. Out of melt off. yes. So yeah, we definitely draw for hours and other peoples.
And fantasy island is a great example of, we would ask writers and ourselves all the time, what are our fantasies? And we did use everybody's fantasies. I think every writer probably had a fantasy represented yours was wanting to just sleep as long as you wanted.
Yes, that was one of our episodes. And then adria, another writer, adria, lying SHE, wanted to be able to talk to her cat. And that was one of our favorite fantasy ies we ever did, was a guess who wanted to talk to their cat.
We had somebody else who had a conflict with neighbors that became a fantasy. I think my fantasy was being able to eat as much as I wanted to, which was the pilot of fantasy island. So we had a lot of of ourselves represented there.
Of course, we never have actually got tour fantasies met in that way. So wasn't our actual real experiences. But IT was based on our desires.
okay? Kathleen says, why? Why did they don't know? Who decided this make the three pine series so much darker and depressing than the books? Lewis penny is the writer of a suburb series of books, and amazon adopted them for series.
And I was just so off putting. The characters were not like they were described, the books, the village and visuals, or synsi, which is definitely not what is in the books. It's seta.
I know books and T, T, V series or movies have differences, but this was crying. So why make things so different when there is a series of maybe thirteen books at the time? So lots material.
How are the actors chosen? They are described in every book. Shouldn't the actors be chosen according to what the characters look like?
Cataline, I love this question, so I have to say, I have read all of the inspector gano's three pines books. I love those books, but I haven't seen the series. And your question really creates a conflict for me because now I both want to watch IT to experience what you're talking about, and I also don't want to watch you because I don't want that different version of IT to be in my head.
So it's a great question and it's probably a big answer. It's probably related to the creator of the series and the network that it's on and the studio that it's on. Sometimes people want a show that is a certain kind of show, and they will turn the IP into the show that they want.
Sometimes the creator just sees IT that way. Maybe the person who created the show saw as a darker, more depressing kind of show. I agree with you. I would not want you to be rim and sinister. The books are so lovely.
Well, I want to comment them there on the idea about the characters are looking like the characters in the book. This is a question we get all the time. People are often up in arms about the way characters look this.
You gotta let go up. okay? Casting is difficult. You cannot cast according to what somebody looks like in a book.
You want to get the best person for the role. And if it's not what they look like in the book, it's okay. I just think this is something we have to let go of.
I agree, and I disagree. It's like, especially in a really beloved red books series, think about the Harry potter books. They cast people who look like at least the three main characters. I haven't done a deep dive into everyone else, but. I think IT can be disorienting if the books are really big and a lot of people know the characters to have someone who totally isn't like the person you see in your head that said, yeah, you do wanna get the best actor for the role. And IT doesn't matter if somebody has read hair, or if their asian and the characters not asian, you just want the best actor who can embodied character.
And I do think a lot of times they will die. Someones here, right? I think pippi long stocking is a famous red hit, so maybe if you're eat off its pip long socking you die.
The actors hair red. But I just think people get so caught up in this rather than on, is the person embodying the spirit of the character. I just think that to me is the last .
thing i'm anna worry about yeah that's probably true.
But great question katrine coming up. We're gonna talk about how we say positive and hollywood. The first this break.
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okay. As we are back with part two of our listener question episodes and this question is from fred, he says, how do you stay positive when IT seems that hollywood is making less content? What's the mood among your appears? Is there a supply demand problem? And if so, do you think you will even out? Oh, fred.
this is the question of the day, like this is our world right now. It's really hard for people to stay positive. That's the short answer.
yes. And the mood among our peers is not good. No, I saw someone post IT was a person who was just starting in the business, and they want to be a writer.
And they ran into a really successful writer and said, oh, I want to do this. I'm so enthusiastic guy. This is my whole life.
I want to do this. What advice do you have for me? And the person said, find another industry to peking.
And he was, so, oh my god. But I get where that person is coming from. Things are tough right now.
yes. And will they get Better? yes. I think I will get Better.
A lot of people truthful ly will just drop out the nutrition. We always say it's a war of italian. Now is the war nutrition. And I think that we're just in an odd time. I think I will get Better, but I don't know how .
much Better I will get or when or how IT will get Better. The whole industry has changed so much that everyone's trying to figure out what it's going to look like next, and we just don't know yet. So we just hanging out and wait and work. I think .
about IT compared to journalism. So I remember there is a period of time when we were Young, there were many print journalists, magazine editors, people with expensive accounts and writing long features. And newspapers had bureaus all over the world.
And all of that still exists, but to such a less degree than I used to. And this has a feeling a bit like that. I'm hoping that because content is king, everybody wants content, that we will survive in a way that makes sense for a lot of people to do IT for a living.
But I do look at that and sort of try to clean some kind of lesson from IT. But you know, people say survive till twenty five. I don't know if we've talked about that yet on the podcast that something writers say.
But I, as you just mention, whose to say twenty five is gonna be any Better? I mean, if you are a journalist back in whatever years and survive tilt twenty five whatever year that was IT wouldn't have changed. IT wouldn't have gotten Better.
I don't think now there are the next generation is doing the business of journalism differently. And there are different kinds of outlets. So yes, everything evolves.
We all still need news, and we can still get news, and people still make a living reporting the news. But IT looks different. So IT is the question that we sort of never knew what we were gonna grapple with when we started our career. We did not see the coming, although we thought coming for years, I would say, but not when we started out.
Yes, it's funny.
Sara brand of mine describes living in florida, a dealing with hurricanes, SHE said. SHE feels like she's being stocked by a turtle because the hurricanes, you see them so far away and they're kind of moving toward you inch by and you don't know where they're gonna go. And I feel like that's how this business was for us.
The blast, lets say, eight years being stocked by a turtle. We're like things might be a problem down the road, but we don't know if they will be or not. And then I was just inching toward us. Now the turtle has arrived. The turtle is on top of us is a big turtle, and it's a snapping turtle.
I look forward to the turtle passing and going on its way.
Okay, ruth says, Sarah, i'm a barre to admit that in my need to be for my skin care routine, i've just taken the skin care products you shared and run with them. So glad you shared they are working well for me, but I realize this isn't a sustainable strategy. Can you share with us how you did your research and what sources you use to identify good products? Sarra, there has been a lot of interest in your skin care routine. Tell us about IT worth.
I'm so glad you asked this question because I love talking about skin and care. Now it's my favorite subject. I have done a lot of research, mostly online and talking to people.
So the first step is just asking a lot of people what they like. And if I hear of something more than once, than that tends to be what I tried. A lot of people love skin suit al C E for relic serum.
I don't know, i'm saying that right, but, and it's really good. So I got that. I tried that. Then I read an article that was like there's this brain that has something that's very much like utica C E for rule xxi um but it's way cheaper.
So now i'm trying that i'm going to open the bottle tomorrow, so I just kind of experiment and who knows, i'll probably go back to the city for relic. But then I also look at different brains. And if I really like one brand, i'll get other things in that brand like BIOS.
Ence is a brand that I find really works well for my skin, but that's part of the whole big thing is like certain things work for you that won't work for me, that will work for liz. I do think you have to experiment a little, which is why I try to get really small things first before I get the big thing. yes.
And the other thing I do is a lot of internet searches of the best to this or that. And if something appears on multiple lists from legitimate sources, then i'll try that. And I kind of just keep a list of things that I want to try in the future. And then when I run out of something, I go to that list and try IT. But the biggest thing I think is just asking people, you know.
yes, because I wear I feel roots pain on this is it's harder and harder to tell what's an ad and what is the genuine review. And that is the key is distinguishing between those two things. And sir, just because I know we're going to get this follow up question, are there any other specific products you want to mention that have been working really well for you?
Yes, i'm a huge fan of the super group sunscreen, the unseen sunscreen. They have several different kinds. I love that. And then two other products I love are the therapy resurfacing retinol serum because that's the thing like everything doesn't have to be expensive. There are really reasonable alternatives to all these crazy expensive things, and they're really, really good quality. And then the other thing I love this is going to make me sound really silly is a hand retinol cream by necessary. And you just like put that on your hands, it's a retina cream and that makes your hands look lovely.
And we're linked to all of those in the shown notes. If anybody he's interested in using what there is using SHE is very sensitive skin. So if you have sensitive skin, you're likely to like these products.
yes. So thanks, ruth.
All right, coming up kitchen has a question for Sarah about or move to. Oh, but first break.
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otto sa podcast okay. So we're back with our last couple of questions here. This is one that's very interesting to me which is from k land SHE says Sarah ve been so interested to hear about your move from L A to oh, you invaded our brave and clearly resilient IT seems that although you've made at home, it's still not to dream you envision my question is what is holding you back from moving to L A? Well, i'm guessing that's a complicated answer.
Yes although the the simplest answer is that Violet is really happy here. My daughter loves IT here and she's very settled and has great friendships. So that's the biggest thing. But I think I was so tough when we first moved here that IT was kind of traumatizing. And now it's been long enough that i'm kind of working through that and starting to enjoy things more.
You know, like I go to the farmers market on sunday morning and I got out of my car this weekend and a die walking by was like, good morning and I was just so like, lovely. And i'm starting to know the people at the stalls in the farmers market. And IT feels more like a positive home experience. So i'm thinking IT will just continue in that direction and will hopefully continue to be happy here.
And you're going to meditation mount .
every friday I go to meditation mount of under really awesome politics and structure or so. Yeah, that's amazing.
There's things that are jelly. And I will say if you're writing partner, I love coming visiting you there and we have our restaurant that we go to, we have our hike that we do. Of course, we also have the ammo digna in that we like to go stay uh, so I don't know.
I'm torn just for my own selfish point of view in some ways I love having you and ohio I got to go to oh, hi more and that almost feels like it's not a second home for me but sort of in that arena. But then again, we are not around so we don't work together as much. And also you're not around to do things with me, right, which is a bar, you know like there's a come and show.
I want to go to friday night hosted by someone who went to our retreat. You are the person natural who would go to that with me, but I know that you won't be able to write. So anyway, it's it's interesting to watch this whole oh thing evolved.
There are posing coins, for sure. okay. And finally, Michelle says sometimes on the podcast you share something with the other person, which seems like new information to that.
Do you always know everything that will be discussed or use? Sometimes leave something a surprise to get their reaction. That's a great question.
IT is I don't think we leave anything a surprise on purpose. I think sometimes just things come up that we didn't know we're gonna come up or that we really genuinely didn't know about the other person. We don't do like super intense podcast scripts. So there's a lot of flexibility in what we say every episode. yes.
I will give an example, for instance, with the ora ring, if we know that you're going to a talk about the or ring all say you well, I want to hear all about what IT tells you about sleep on the podcast so you may not have told me all of the facts about the sleep IT is new information to me, but I know you're going to talk about that area.
Yes, we know the arenas that are going to be discussed, but the details very well might be new information now because so much of the podcast comes out of our life. Obviously, many times you and I will have a full discussion and then we will say, well, that would be a good thing to talk about on the podcast. So you know often times you already had the initial discussion, but the dynamic is that we're always hopefully saying something new to each other so we don't know exactly how the others going to respond.
What's always interesting to me to when we remember things differently, you will remember something I don't remember at all, or all remember something that you don't remember at all. Yes, I have adds a new dimension.
absolutely, but that's a fun question. Thank you, Michelle, and thanks to everybody for all the great questions we got.
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So I just realized I have absolutely no idea what Violet is dressing up. As for halloween.
this is is the cutest thing she's been like, all which and dark and whatever. This year she's reverting back to, I was going to say, childhood she's still a child. They like deep childhood, and she's gonna marry from the arrested cats.
Then little White kitten SHE got like a dress and a luffton. E and and little pause and ears. She's going as a kitten.
H, I love you.
Do I know? What about jack?
Jack is not dressing up. He hasn't dressed up for like three years, so but i'll be wearing my corgi halloween shirt.
nice. I have a skirt that I wear every halloween. It's like a black and orange sky. Never wear at any other time.
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