In this episode of the Blue Beryl Podcast, Dr Pierce Salguero sits down with the show’s producer, Lan A. Li, a historian of Chinese science, medicine, and the body. We talk about their life-long practice of qigong, the limits of academic critique, and the integration of divergent epistemologies in studying Chinese anatomy. Along the way, we discuss Lan’s new book, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine)* *(Johns Hopkins UP, 2025), Lan’s relationship to Islam, and how to cultivate wonder through academic study.
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Resources mentioned in the episode:
Lan Li, “The Vital Other: Integrsative Medicine and India” (2012))
Lan Li and Pierce Salguero, Jivaka Project Philadelphia (2015-2020))
Pierce’s 2020 blogs on Metamodernism) and Polyperspectivalism)
Lan Li, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (2025))
Pierce Salguero) is a transdisciplinary scholar of health humanities who is fascinated by historical and contemporary intersections between Buddhism, medicine, and crosscultural exchange. He has a Ph.D. in History of Medicine from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (2010), and teaches Asian history, medicine, and religion at Penn State University’s Abington College, located near Philadelphia. www.piercesalguero.com.
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