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What investors expect from Trump

2024/12/9
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@David Mericle : 投资者最担忧的是全面征收10%或20%的关税,这与高盛的基线预期不同。虽然大多数投资者与高盛一样,预期会对中国和汽车进口征收额外关税,但普遍关税的可能性被认为低于高盛的预期(投资者平均预期为35%,而高盛为40%)。 投资者对移民政策的预期与高盛类似,都预期净移民数量将大幅下降,但不会降至负数。高盛预计净移民数量将平均每年约750,000人,而大多数投资者预计在50万到100万人之间。 投资者普遍预期2017年的减税政策将延续,并可能会有少量额外的减税措施。然而,由于美国财政状况恶化,投资者和高盛都认为大规模减税的可能性较小。 投资者对企业减税的预期存在分歧,高盛认为大幅降低企业税率的可能性较小,但制造业税率可能降低至15%。 投资者对政府效率部门的预期差异很大,多数人认为其节省的资金有限。大幅削减政府支出的可能性较小,因为国防开支和福利开支难以削减。 关税是影响通胀的最重要因素,普遍关税将对通胀产生显著影响。在两到三年内,各项政策对经济增长的影响大致相抵。 高盛认为市场对利率的预期过于鹰派,低估了经济下行风险。高盛的观点比市场预期更为鸽派。 @Alison Nathan : 主持访谈,引导话题,并对David Mericle的观点进行总结和提问。

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What are investors most nervous about regarding potential policy changes under the second Trump administration?

Investors are most nervous about the prospect of a universal 10-20% tariff on all goods from all countries, with 60% of survey respondents citing it as the top risk. Other concerns include fiscal sustainability and the impact of deportations on growth and inflation.

What is the baseline expectation for tariffs under the second Trump administration?

Most investors expect additional tariffs on imports from China and autos, particularly from the EU, but do not anticipate a universal tariff on all goods from all countries. The average probability assigned to a universal tariff is 35%, slightly below Goldman Sachs' estimate of 40%.

How do investors expect immigration policy to change under the second Trump administration?

Investors expect net immigration to average around 750,000 per year, a significant drop from the 3 million in 2023 but only slightly lower than pre-pandemic levels. Most respondents anticipate authorized immigration to remain steady, while unauthorized immigration could drop to net zero.

What are investors' expectations regarding tax cuts under the second Trump administration?

Nearly all investors expect the 2017 tax cuts to be extended, with two-thirds anticipating full extension and one-third expecting partial extension. Additional tax cuts, such as no tax on tips or overtime, are expected to be modest, around 0.2% of GDP or $60 billion, due to concerns over fiscal sustainability.

What is the expected impact of tariffs on inflation under the second Trump administration?

Tariffs are expected to have a one-time inflationary effect. A 3-4 percentage point increase in the effective tariff rate could raise the price level by 0.3-0.4%, pushing inflation to the mid-2% range. A universal tariff could triple this impact, raising the price level by 1% and temporarily pushing inflation above 3%.

How might the second Trump administration's policies impact economic growth?

The policies are expected to have offsetting effects on growth over a 2-3 year horizon. Negative impacts, such as reduced immigration and tariffs, may occur sooner, while positive impacts, like tax cuts, could take longer to materialize. Overall, the growth trajectory of the U.S. economy is not expected to change substantially.

How do Goldman Sachs' views on Fed policy differ from market expectations?

Goldman Sachs believes market expectations for higher interest rates due to tariffs are too hawkish. They argue that the inflationary impact of tariffs is modest and one-time, and the Fed may prioritize risks to growth over inflation. They expect the Fed to cut rates in December and continue easing in Q1, contrary to market pricing.

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A Goldman Sachs survey of 500 investors revealed their top concerns about potential policy changes under a second Trump administration. The biggest worry was a universal tariff on all goods, while other concerns included fiscal sustainability and the impact of immigration policies on the economy.
  • 60% of investors cited a universal 10-20% tariff as their top concern.
  • Concerns about fiscal sustainability and immigration policy also ranked highly.
  • Most investors expect some additional tariffs on imports from China and autos but not a universal tariff.

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Goldman Sachs Research’s Chief US Economist David Mericle shares what investors are expecting under the second Trump administration and how those policy assumptions are reflected in market pricing.