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#397 – Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech

2023/9/25
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格雷格·卢基安诺夫在访谈中深入探讨了“取消文化”的定义、历史以及对言论自由和学术自由的影响。他指出,“取消文化”并非仅仅是言论,而是旨在通过各种手段,例如解雇、平台封禁等,压制那些本应受第一修正案保护的观点。这种现象不仅造成了言论环境的恶化,也导致了一种恐惧的氛围,人们害怕表达自己的观点。卢基安诺夫认为,言论自由的根本在于允许表达各种观点,即使是那些不受欢迎或有争议的观点。他强调,观点歧视是言论审查中最严重的罪恶,即允许言论自由,但对某种观点例外。他同时指出,在大学等机构中,左翼的“取消文化”更为普遍,但右翼的“取消文化”也同样存在。他分析了左翼和右翼在“取消文化”中使用的不同策略,例如“以彼之道还施彼身”、“强词夺理”等,并指出这些策略会阻碍人们对真理的追求。卢基安诺夫还讨论了多元化、公平与包容(DEI)计划的利弊,认为其背后的意识形态可能会导致群体之间的分裂。他分析了大学言论自由排名中所考虑的因素,例如学校的言论政策、取消邀请事件以及学生对言论自由环境的看法。他还谈到了在大学中如何应对“取消文化”,强调应该调查管理人员是否参与其中,并呼吁大学保护言论自由。卢基安诺夫还探讨了仇恨言论问题,认为其是言论审查的最佳营销策略,并指出不能仅仅因为言论具有冒犯性就禁止它。他认为,言论自由包括表达错误观点的自由,因为只有这样才能接近真理。最后,卢基安诺夫分享了他个人与抑郁症的斗争经历,以及他如何克服它,并表达了他对言论自由未来的希望。

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Greg Lukianoff is a free speech advocate, first-amendment attorney, president of FIRE – Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, and co-author of The Coddling of the American Mind and a new book The Canceling of the American Mind. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Policygenius: https://www.policygenius.com/) – Babbel: https://babbel.com/lexpod) and use code Lexpod to get 55% off – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex) to get 10% off – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex) to get 20% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod) to get 3 months free

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OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (10:49) – Cancel culture & freedom of speech (25:21) – Left-wing vs right-wing cancel culture (34:06) – Religion (36:46) – College rankings by freedom of speech (42:54) – Deplatforming (57:29) – Whataboutism (1:02:32) – Steelmanning (1:10:08) – How the left argues (1:20:48) – Diversity, equity, and inclusion (1:32:39) – Why colleges lean left (1:40:17) – How the right argues (1:44:52) – Hate speech (1:53:39) – Platforming (2:03:10) – Social media (2:24:17) – Depression (2:35:48) – Hope