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#394 – Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature

2023/9/1
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一位通过播客和研究工作在科技和科学领域广受认可的美国播客主持人和研究科学家。
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Lex Fridman: 介绍了 Neri Oxman 的背景、成就和研究方向,并围绕生物设计、计算设计、数字制造、合成生物学、材料生态学、可持续设计等主题,与 Neri Oxman 展开了深入探讨。访谈中,Lex Fridman 表达了对 Neri Oxman 工作的赞赏,并就相关话题提出了许多具有启发性的问题。 Neri Oxman: Neri Oxman 阐述了她对生物设计、计算设计、数字制造、合成生物学等领域的理解和实践。她认为,人类设计的物品将人类与自然隔离开来,而她的目标是通过技术手段弥合这种隔阂,重新连接人类与自然。她提出了“物质生态学”的概念,旨在将所有物质都视为生态系统的一部分,并对生态系统产生积极影响。她还希望探索赋予自然以计算能力的可能性,让自然能够自行做出决策,并利用大型语言模型等技术增强自然固有的智慧。她介绍了 OXMAN 公司的多个项目,包括研发从二氧化碳到水果的全降解产品,以及利用机器人技术引导生物体进行创造性工作等。她还探讨了生物设计中的伦理道德问题,以及如何平衡人类需求与自然保护之间的关系。在谈到AGI时,她表达了对未来人类与AGI以及自然之间关系的思考。她认为,人类的局限性可能为自然的赋能创造机会。 Lex Fridman: 在访谈中,Lex Fridman 提出了许多具有启发性的问题,例如:如何定义自然?人类设计的物品如何将人类与自然隔离开来?自然是否拥有超越智力的智慧?人类制造的物品总量超过地球上的生物量,这该如何解决?如何将所有科技产品都设计成生物圈的一部分?如何理解和利用自然界的语言?如何赋能自然?如何平衡赋能与涌现之间的关系?如何理解和利用生物体的行为?如何设计计算模板?如何让人类与植物进行沟通?什么是美?如何理解缺陷在人类关系中的作用?如何看待显化?如何才能拥有成功的事业和生活?如何看待AGI与自然的关系?等等。这些问题都促进了 Neri Oxman 对其研究和观点的更深入阐述。

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Neri Oxman discusses her vision for a future where products are grown rather than manufactured, blurring the lines between biomass and anthropomass. This involves leveraging nature's wisdom and augmenting it with technology to create a sustainable and harmonious relationship between humans and nature.
  • Anthropomass has surpassed biomass on Earth.
  • The goal is to design products that are part of the biosphere, not separate from it.
  • Oxman's company, OXMAN, explores growing products from CO2 to edible fruit plants.

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Neri Oxman is a designer, engineer, scientist, and artist working on computational design, synthetic biology and digital fabrication, previously at MIT, and now at OXMAN. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:

Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/neri-oxman-transcript

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OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (09:06) - Biomass vs anthropomass (23:27) - Computational templates (43:42) - Biological hero organisms (54:42) - Engineering with bacteria (1:02:59) - Plant communication (1:16:22) - Albert Einstein letter (1:19:44) - Beauty (1:24:40) - Faith (1:34:26) - Flaws (1:54:15) - Extinction (2:05:22) - Alien life (2:09:12) - Music (2:10:39) - Movies (2:15:11) - Advice for young people