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DeepSeek: America’s Sputnik Moment for AI?

2025/2/6
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@Martin Casado : DeepSeek R1的发布在AI领域引起了巨大的轰动,它不仅仅是一个模型的发布,更代表了中国在AI研究和创新方面的实力。我认为,DeepSeek的出现提醒我们,创新可能来自任何地方,即使是一个对冲基金背景的团队。此外,DeepSeek选择开源其模型和推理步骤,对于AI技术的普及和应用具有重要意义。我个人认为,我们应该积极应对DeepSeek的挑战,加大对AI研究的投入,而不是试图通过限制开源或出口管制来阻碍技术的发展。 @Steven Sinofsky : 我认为DeepSeek的发布确实是一个重要的事件,但我们不应该过度解读它。DeepSeek的成功,一部分原因在于他们能够利用中国互联网的独特优势,以及相对较低的人力成本。然而,更重要的是,DeepSeek的出现提醒我们,AI的发展不应该只关注大规模的计算和数据,而应该更加注重工程上的创新和优化。我认为,未来的AI发展方向是小型化、专业化和边缘化,DeepSeek的开源策略将加速这一趋势的到来。我们应该从互联网的发展历史中吸取教训,鼓励创新和竞争,而不是试图控制和垄断技术。

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The release of DeepSeek's R1 model has created a stir in the AI world, with many comparing it to the Sputnik moment. This episode explores the key aspects of R1, its implications, and the reactions it has generated. The discussion also includes the role of internet history in making sense of the event.
  • Release of the Chinese reasoning model R1, with an open-source MIT license.
  • Claims of 45x efficiency improvement over other methods.
  • Alleged $5.6 million development cost.
  • Release of reasoning traces and a follow-on image model.
  • Comparisons to the Sputnik moment and its implications for various stakeholders.

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Two words have caught the Internet by storm. DeepSeek. 

The Chinese reasoning model r1 is rivaling others at the frontier with an open-source MIT license, methods that some claim may be 45x more efficient, an alleged $5.6m cost, the release of reasoning traces, a follow-on image model, and the fact that all of this was released by a hedge fund China.

Many are already referring to this as a Sputnik moment. If that’s true, how should we – whether founder, researcher, policy maker – not just react, but act? Joining us to tease out the signal from the noise are a16z General Partner Martin Casado and a16z board partner, Steven Sinofsky. Both Martin and Steven have been on the frontlines of prior computing cycles, from the switching wars to the fiber buildout, and have witnessed the trajectories of companies like Cisco to AOL to ATT – even Worldcom.

So what really drove this DeepSeek frenzy and more importantly what should we take away? Today, we answer that question through the lens of Internet history.

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