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Chasing Success vs True Fulfilment - Nat Eliason

2024/8/29
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Ali Abdaal: 本期节目探讨了在追求成功与真正实现之间的平衡,以及如何克服短期偏差,关注长期目标。节目中,嘉宾Nat Eliason分享了他对已知成本未知收益的看法,以及在人生重大抉择中时间的重要性。他还谈到了他日常的写作习惯,以及他新书《Crypto Confidential》的创作过程。 Ali Abdaal还与Nat Eliason讨论了建立固定社交活动的重要性,以及如何平衡工作与个人生活。他们还探讨了在面对金钱诱惑时,如何保持清醒的头脑,以及如何选择长期满足感而非短期利益。 Nat Eliason: 在人生的重大决定中,例如生育孩子、更换工作、结婚等,没有一个完美的时机。人们往往因为恐惧和不确定性而拖延这些决定。应该尽早尝试,因为很多事情只有经历后才能真正理解其益处。 在事业发展与家庭生活之间,应该找到平衡点。不要为了事业而牺牲家庭生活,因为在人生的最后阶段,人们往往更珍惜与家人的时光。 建立固定的社交活动,例如每周固定的游泳或逛集市,可以更容易地与朋友保持联系。在社交中,要主动出击,不要害怕成为组织者。 要相信自己的直觉,尤其是在面对负面预感时。不要被金钱所迷惑,要专注于自己真正想做的事情。 在工作中,要将目标分为有限游戏和无限游戏。有限游戏有明确的输赢,而无限游戏是持续的、没有终点的。在无限游戏中,要专注于过程而非结果。 在写作方面,他分享了自己的日常写作习惯,以及如何克服拖延症。他认为,写作是一个长期积累的过程,需要持续的努力和坚持。

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Why does Nat Eliason believe that there is never a 'right time' for big life decisions?

Nat argues that anytime you catch yourself thinking, 'It'll be a better time later,' you're likely just scared or unclear. Big decisions like having kids, changing jobs, or moving in with a partner should be made without waiting for the 'perfect' moment, as it never truly arrives.

What does Nat Eliason mean by 'known costs with unknowable benefits'?

Nat refers to life decisions where there are clear downsides (known costs) but the benefits are not fully understood until experienced. For example, getting married or having kids may seem daunting due to the sacrifices involved, but the positive outcomes are often only appreciated after the fact.

Why does Nat Eliason recommend having kids earlier rather than later?

Nat believes that having kids early is better because the biological window for having children is relatively short, typically until the mid-30s. Delaying having kids to focus on career advancement can result in missing out on the opportunity to have a family altogether.

How does Nat Eliason describe his experience with crypto and its impact on his relationship with money?

Nat describes crypto as corrupting his relationship with money, making him overly focused on short-term gains and risking significant amounts of money without taking it out for his family. He realized he needed to step away from crypto to regain control over his financial decisions and prioritize his long-term goals.

What is Nat Eliason's advice on balancing work and passion in a daily routine?

Nat suggests structuring the day to prioritize creative work in the morning, setting clear goals (like writing 2,500 words), and leaving the afternoon open for less stimulating activities like walking or gym sessions to allow for creative thinking. He avoids overloading the day with meetings to maintain focus and balance.

What is the core idea behind Nat Eliason's book 'Crypto Confidential'?

The book is a fast-paced, first-person account of Nat's experiences in the crypto world during its peak. It’s designed to be a thrilling read rather than a technical guide, offering insights into the highs and lows of crypto while keeping the reader entertained.

Why does Nat Eliason recommend 'standing social events' as a way to maintain friendships?

Nat believes that standing social events, like regular meetups at a specific time and place, reduce the effort required to maintain friendships. These events make it easy to see friends regularly without the constant need for planning, and they naturally expand your social circle as friends bring new people.

What does Nat Eliason mean by 'trust your negative gut, not your positive gut'?

Nat advises trusting your instincts when they warn you against a decision, even if you can rationalize it otherwise. Conversely, being overly excited about an opportunity can lead to overlooking potential risks, so it's important to pause and reflect on why you're so enthusiastic.

How does Nat Eliason define 'finite' and 'infinite' games, and why are they important?

Finite games have clear rules, boundaries, and winners or losers, while infinite games are played to keep the game going and expand its boundaries. Nat argues that approaching life with an infinite game mindset—focusing on long-term growth and relationships—leads to more fulfilling outcomes than chasing short-term wins.

What was Nat Eliason's experience with the 'four-hour workweek' lifestyle, and how did it influence his perspective on work and fulfillment?

Nat found that the four-hour workweek lifestyle, while initially exciting, led to a sense of emptiness after a few months. He realized that meaningful work is essential for long-term fulfillment and that 'passive income' businesses often fail to provide the same satisfaction as pursuing a true calling.

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In today’s episode, I sit down with Nat Eliason to discuss known costs with unknowable benefits, overcoming short-term bias, and the importance of timing in life decisions. We explore the concept of finite versus infinite games, focusing on long-term fulfilment over short-term gains. Nat also shares insights into his daily writing routine and his book, Crypto Confidential, which offers an engaging look into the crypto world.

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(00:00) Known Costs with Unknowable Benefits

(07:11) Overcoming Short-Term Bias

(13:25) The Timing of Life Decisions

(25:13) The Value of Standing Social Events

(38:22) Trusting Your Negative Gut

(41:11) The Allure of Money

(42:07) The Dangers of Being Driven by Money

(43:54) Choosing Long-Term Fulfillment over Short-Term Wins

(50:35) Balancing Work and Passion in a Daily Routine

(01:01:55) The Power of Infinite Games

(01:17:54) Crypto Confidential: A Thrilling and Educational Journey

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