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The Chopping Block: World Liberty Financial, Liquidity Risks, and Global Crypto Adoption - Ep. 708

2024/9/23
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Arthur Hayes
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Haseeb Qureshi
管理合伙人、投资人、程序员和有效利他主义者,专注于加密货币和区块链领域。
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Mo Shaikh
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Robert Leshner
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Tarun Chitra
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Tom Schmidt
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Haseeb Qureshi: 我对特朗普的DeFi项目World Liberty Financial持怀疑态度,我认为它缺乏清晰的方向,并且70%的代币预先分配给内部人士令人担忧。此外,我对名人币的长期价值表示怀疑,认为它们主要是一种投机性干扰,而非对加密货币的真正关注。 关于全球加密货币采用,我对Chainalysis的报告中印度排名第一表示怀疑,我认为韩国的排名应该更高。 至于美联储降息,我认为美元/日元汇率是关键指标,其变化可能导致市场波动。 最后,我认为政府监管对加密货币的影响有限,因为创新会继续发生,并且加密货币的价值创造是持续的。 Tom Schmidt: 我认为在F1期间举办Token2049是一个糟糕的主意,因为交通拥堵严重影响了与会者的体验。 关于名人币,我认为它们虽然能吸引注意力,但价格表现通常不佳,长期来看可能弊大于利。 关于美联储降息,我认为市场已经预期到降息,因此不会有太大的意外。 关于政府监管,我认为监管可能会减缓加密货币的发展速度,但无法完全扼杀它。 Tarun Chitra: 我对Iggy Azalea取消的辩论感到失望,我认为这突显了名人参与加密货币活动时可能面临的挑战。 关于韩国和日本的加密货币市场,我认为韩国的活跃交易文化和友好政策与日本的谨慎和限制性方法形成对比。 关于美联储降息,我认为这可能会导致市场波动,但加密货币的韧性将使其能够应对这些波动。 Robert Leshner: 我对World Liberty Financial的细节知之甚少,但70%的代币分配给内部人士确实令人担忧。 关于名人币,我认为它们可能有助于吸引更多人关注加密货币,但同时也存在风险。 Mo Shaikh: Aptos正在通过与韩国的合作和创新产品(如Aptos卡)来推动主流采用。 关于韩国的加密货币市场,我认为韩国人对加密货币的交易热情很高,并且对新事物的接受度也很高。 Arthur Hayes: 我认为World Liberty Financial的完全稀释估值可能高达100亿美元。 关于美联储降息,我认为美元/日元汇率是关键指标,其变化可能导致市场波动,甚至可能引发流动性危机。 关于政府监管,我认为加密货币不需要政府的支持,并且能够在没有政府监管的情况下继续发展。

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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week the squad is live from Token2049 in Singapore and joined by special guests Mo Shaikh, CEO and Co-Founder of Aptos Labs, and Arthur Hayes, CIO at Maelstrom. In this episode, they tackle the buzz around Trump’s DeFi projects, the challenges of hosting Token2049 during F1, and the controversy surrounding Iggy Azalea’s cancelled debate. The conversation also covers the macro impact of potential Fed rate cuts, the role of celebrity coins, and the future of global crypto adoption. Don't miss this insightful live discussion in front of the Token2049 audience!

Show highlights

🔹 Token2049 Event: Token2049 faced logistical challenges due to Singapore’s F1 weekend, resulting in heavy traffic and delays for attendees.

🔹 Canceled Celebrity Coin Debate: Iggy Azalea’s debate with Eric Wall about celebrity coins was canceled due to conflicts with Singaporean regulations, which prevented her planned on-stage stunts.

🔹 World Liberty Financial Overview: The Trump family’s DeFi project, World Liberty Financial, is scrutinized for its lack of clear direction and concerns over the 70% insider token pre-allocation.

🔹 Fed Rate Cuts and Market Implications: Potential Fed rate cuts and their impact on the dollar-yen exchange rate could lead to liquidity crises and increased market volatility.

🔹 Celebrity Coins and Memecoins: A look into celebrity coins and memecoins raises questions about their value, considering whether they bring meaningful attention to crypto or are merely speculative distractions.

🔹 Korea vs. Japan in Crypto: Korea’s active crypto trading culture and crypto-friendly policies contrast with Japan’s more cautious, restrictive approach, reflecting different market dynamics.

🔹 Global Crypto Adoption Rankings: Skepticism is expressed regarding India’s top spot in Chainalysis’ Global Crypto Adoption Index, with a case made for Korea ranking higher than 19th.

🔹 Aptos and Mainstream Adoption: Aptos is pushing for mainstream adoption through partnerships in Korea and innovations like the Aptos card, offering integrated cold storage and new financial products.

Hosts

⭐️Haseeb Qureshi), Managing Partner at Dragonfly 

⭐️Tom Schmidt), General Partner at Dragonfly 

⭐️Tarun Chitra), Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

Guest

⭐️ Mo Shaikh), CEO and Co-Founder of Aptos Labs

⭐️ Arthur Hayes), CIO at Maelstrom)

Disclosures)

Links

The 2024 Global Adoption Index: Central & Southern Asia and Oceania (CSAO) Region Leads the World in Terms of Global Cryptocurrency Adoption: https://www.chainalysis.com/blog/2024-global-crypto-adoption-index/

**Timestamps **

  • 0:00 Intro

  • 00:49 TOKEN2049 

  • 06:20 $10 Billion FDV? World Liberty Financial

  • 16:10 Allure of Memecoins & Celebcoins

  • 19:06 Beyond Memecoin Adoption

  • 20:27 Global Crypto Adoption Ranking

  • 24:43 Korea vs. Japan's Crypto Scenes

  • 29:19 Macro Trends and Fed's Impact

  • 35:26 Crypto's Resilience Against Regulation

  • 40:00 The Future of Crypto and Decentralization

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