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2 Crypto Investors on Why They Believe DeFi Is Poised for a Bull Run - Ep. 719

2024/10/15
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Arthur Cheong: 我认为DeFi已经度过了 Gartner 技术成熟度曲线中的幻觉顶峰和幻灭低谷阶段,正处于复苏的上升阶段。这是因为我们已经通过大量实验,了解了哪些DeFi方法有效,哪些无效;同时,新的利率周期将降低DeFi及链上活动的机遇成本,吸引更多资金流入DeFi。此外,DeFi仍然是加密领域最大的产品市场,并且在安全性、用户体验方面都有了显著提升。 DeFi的安全性、用户界面和用户体验都有了显著提升,这使得用户更容易使用链上服务。 本轮牛市中,DeFi 项目只有在具备差异化功能或创新时才能获得高估值。 一些成熟的 DeFi 协议即使没有激励措施也能吸引用户,而一些新协议仍然需要激励措施来吸引初始用户。 客观上来说,Layer 2 目前是寄生于以太坊的,因为它们获取了大部分原本属于以太坊的交易费用。 Solana 和 Base 链上的 DeFi 项目将获得最大的成功,因为它们在吸引新用户方面做得最好。 目前缺乏统一的代币估值框架的主要原因是:比特币作为最大资产,其估值方法影响了其他资产的估值;以及过去五年加密市场过度依赖散户购买资产,导致估值不合理。 在加密货币投资中,采用流动性投资策略能够获得更高的回报,因为它兼顾了高回报和灵活性。 Jordi Alexander: DeFi 是一个拥有良好市场契合度的巨大市场,因为它围绕着金融资产,而下一步就是如何最好地利用这些资产。 过去两年,人们可以在传统金融市场获得 3% 到 5% 的收益,因此他们没有必要承担风险投资 DeFi。但当利率下降到 3% 或低于 3% 时,人们就会被推离舒适区,去寻找其他地方获得额外收益。 本轮牛市中,DeFi 项目只有在具备差异化功能或创新时才能获得高估值。 由于 Luna 事件,人们对收益型稳定币的风险有了更清晰的认识,这导致更注重可持续性的 DeFi 项目获得了更多关注。 Layer 2 对以太坊的寄生性主要体现在社区和用户关注度方面,而非手续费方面。 DeFi 的牛市不会局限于单一区块链,而是在以太坊、Solana 等多个链上展开。 目前缺乏完善的代币估值框架,导致加密市场资金配置效率低下。 将更多比特币引入 DeFi 生态系统具有巨大潜力,尤其是在亚洲市场。

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DeFi tokens have faced significant challenges in recent years. However, are we now on the verge of a new bull market?

Arthur Cheong, founder and CIO of DeFiance Capital, and Jordi Alexander, founder of Selini Capital and chief alchemist at Mantle, join the show to discuss why they believe DeFi is poised for growth. They dive into how DeFi's security and user experience have improved, the impact of Layer 2 solutions on Ethereum, and whether Ethereum or Solana will drive the next bull run. Plus, they discuss whether interest in memecoins takes attention from DeFi, and why sustainable tokenomics matters when it comes to valuing coins. 

Are DeFi tokens finally ready to shine again?

Show highlights:

  • Why they believe that DeFi is poised for a bull cycle 

  • How DeFi's security and UX have improved

  • Whether DeFi activity can be sustained in the long term

  • Why Jordi thinks that Layer 2s are not parasitic to ETH but Arthur thinks they are

  • Whether the DeFi bull case is stronger on Ethereum, Solana or other chains

  • Whether the Ethereum Foundation and Vitalik Buterin should be more proactive in supporting DeFi

  • How memecoins reflect a broader societal problem 

  • The importance of tokens that don’t have big unlocks

  • How the lack of solid frameworks for valuing tokens might be causing capital misallocation in crypto

  • Whether a liquid venture investing approach is better for crypto

  • Why Jordi says that there’s a lot of “potential to unlock” with the overlap of Bitcoin and DeFi

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Guests:

- Arthur Cheong), founder and CIO of DeFiance Capital

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- Jordi Alexander), Chief Alchemist at Mantle, Founder of Selini Capital

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