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Are L2s Extensions of Ethereum? | Kyle Samani & Max Resnick vs. David Hoffman & Jill Gunter

2024/10/28
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Kyle Samani: 认为当前流行的L2并非以太坊的扩展,未来的区块链发展趋势是多个链的整合,最终形成一个主导的区块链体系。 Max Resnick: 同意Kyle的观点,认为L2并未扩展以太坊的功能,并且L2的出现与以太坊形成了竞争关系。 Jill Gunter: 认为L2是以太坊的扩展,这取决于对术语的定义,以及对L2和以太坊目标的理解。 David Hoffman: 认为L2是以太坊的扩展,这取决于对“扩展”的定义,并认为当前的争论源于L2未能充分融入以太坊的价值增长体系。 Kyle Samani: 认为L2目前对加密货币市场有害,并且对以太坊生态系统具有寄生性,L2获取了用户,但没有回馈以太坊。 Max Resnick: 认为以太坊的价值主要与美元挂钩,而非其自身。 Jill Gunter: 认为以太坊和L2的目标是创建审查制度抵抗型应用、可组合的应用和用户体验,以及可持续的经济引擎。 David Hoffman: 认为以太坊需要在某一方面做到最好,而不是在所有方面都做到中等水平,并认为L2的成功需要承认开发者创建独立链的现实,这并不一定以牺牲以太坊为代价。

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Kyle Samani and Max Resnick argue that Layer 2s, in their current form, are not extensions of Ethereum but rather replacements. They highlight that L2s are developing their own siloed states and network effects, directly competing with Ethereum. They question if L2s unlock new functionalities or simply enhance existing ones.
  • L2s are building their own siloed states and network effects.
  • L2s are replicating functionalities of L1 instead of offering new use cases.
  • Uniswap's decision to launch its own L2 demonstrates a move away from Ethereum mainnet.

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Bankless Nation, we’ve got the hottest debate in crypto right now: Are L2s extensions of Ethereum?

On one side, we’ve got Kyle Samani and Max Resnick proposing that the current Ethereum Rollup-Centric Roadmap is off-track. On the other side we’ve got David Hoffman and Jill Gunter defending L2s as successful  extensions of Ethereum.


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0:00 Intro 8:54 Defending “Extensions of Ethereum” 16:33 Interoperability Standards 25:36 Are L2s Parasitic to Ethereum? 32:37 ETH Economics & Value Accrual 41:30 Solana vs Ethereum L2s 49:09 Closing Thoughts

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