Predictability is essential because it reduces the risk of losing money. Dev prioritizes businesses with proven industry dynamics and business models that have been successful over decades. He avoids investments that could suffer significant losses, focusing instead on companies where even if assumptions are slightly off, there’s still a margin of safety to ensure profitability.
Dev avoids Big Tech because he believes AI will become commoditized, making it difficult for these companies to monetize their offerings in the long term. While they may perform well in the short term due to AI growth, he sees risks in predicting the winners in a highly competitive and rapidly evolving industry.
Pricing power is a hallmark of a great business because it allows companies to raise prices above inflation, protecting against economic downturns and increasing profitability. Dev looks for businesses that can consistently raise prices over decades, ensuring long-term compounding of intrinsic value.
Dev focuses on US large-cap companies because they often dominate their industries, offering strong growth and predictability. He believes the US has the best business models globally, with superior reporting standards, capital allocation practices, and management teams focused on shareholder value creation.
Share repurchases are an efficient way for companies to return capital to shareholders, especially when stock prices are reasonable. Dev prefers businesses that buy back their stock because it enhances shareholder value and prevents companies from making poor acquisition decisions with excess cash.
Dev seeks individuals with patience, discipline, and a long-term outlook. He values delayed gratification and emotional intelligence, as these traits are crucial for making unemotional, disciplined investment decisions. He avoids candidates who are drawn to short-term gains or speculative investments.
Dev believes the recent rally is driven by clarity around inflation and interest rates, which have peaked and are expected to decline. He sees a favorable backdrop for equities, particularly those with strong organic growth, as low interest rates make equities more attractive compared to bonds and cash.
Monopolies and duopolies often have strong pricing power and limited competition, making them attractive investments. However, Dev notes that not all duopolies are great businesses, as factors like capital intensity, labor issues, and irrational competition can undermine their profitability.
Owning S&P Global taught Dev the importance of long-term thinking and conviction during market downturns. Despite cyclicality in the debt ratings business, he focused on the company’s enduring earnings power and compounding potential, which led to significant returns over time.
Dev avoids acquisitive companies because they often overpay for acquisitions, face integration risks, and may dilute the quality of their business models. He prefers companies with organic growth and predictable revenue streams, as acquisitions can introduce unnecessary complexity and risk.
On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Dev Kantesaria to discuss the current market environment, the types of investments he is looking for, FICO, S&P Global, and much more.
Dev is the founder and portfolio manager at Valley Forge Capital Management. The firm has been highly successful since its inception in 2007, as it’s outperformed the S&P 500 by a wide margin and has over $4 billion in assets under management.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
01:46 - Dev’s view on the current market environment and the recent stock market rally.
05:02 - How Valley Forge Capital Management adopted Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger’s investment approach.
09:16 - Why predictability is an essential part of Dev’s investment approach.
11:32 - Why Dev has decided not to invest in any Big Tech companies.
37:11 - Why pricing power is the hallmark of a great business.
53:30 - Why Dev will continue to invest in the US despite optically higher valuations.
56:59 - The reason Dev loves compounding machines that perform share repurchases.
And so much more!
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