The main existential question is how to learn to trust oneself and follow one's heart, especially after relying on external guidance and societal norms for most of one's life.
India Arie describes a breakdown she experienced in a dressing room before a concert as the turning point. This breakdown, which she later understood as her soul separating from her personality, forced her to confront the need to live her truth.
India Arie describes the process as a journey involving breakdown, breakthrough, breaking the shell, elevation, and flying. She emphasizes that it requires taking action despite fear and continuously returning to one's truth, even when faced with challenges.
India Arie took time to go into nature, wrote songs and essays to herself, and had honest conversations with her management and family. She also stopped taking medication and changed her lifestyle, which led to improvements in her health and mental well-being.
Cheryl Strayed suggests that courage is not the absence of fear but the ability to take action in the face of fear. She emphasizes that trusting oneself and following one's heart requires ongoing bravery and a willingness to face discomfort.
India Arie uses the metaphor of the phoenix setting fire to its own nest to describe the process of empowerment. She explains that true empowerment comes from taking responsibility for one's actions and making difficult decisions, even if it means disappointing others.
Heartward Bound expresses her struggle with letting social norms and others' opinions guide her life, rather than trusting her own heart. She seeks advice on how to reconnect with her inner voice and avoid falling back into the 'safe prison' of conforming to others' expectations.
Cheryl Strayed relates 'going inside' to finding one's truth by emphasizing the importance of solitude and introspection. She shares her own experience of hiking the Pacific Crest Trail as a way to reconnect with herself, suggesting that being alone with one's thoughts is crucial for self-discovery.
India Arie identifies the key difference as the ability to recognize when someone's love is genuine versus when someone is using you to serve their own agenda. She emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries with those who do not have your best interests at heart.
Cheryl Strayed suggests that fear is an inherent part of taking courageous steps. She argues that true courage involves acting despite fear, rather than waiting for fear to disappear, and that this is essential for living an authentic life.
This episode was originally released September 23rd, 2016.
The Sugars often discuss letters dealing with very specific problems or struggles. In this encore episode, they take on a broader, more existential question: how to follow your heart. The Sugars discuss with the GRAMMY-winning singer/songwriter India Arie, who shares how she learned to be her own guide.